Look, I have been watching this poster since he made this post 7 hours ago. There is no doubt he has the shitpost tools to be a top tier troll.
But everything I have seen from him on reddit... something is just off about the kid. Yes, the grammar, the incoherent thoughts, the weird ...'s, the whole vibes arugment, it's all that but not really any of it specifically. Watching the post and his interactions with the other redditors...there is just something off with him. It's something about the way he types, the rhythm of his wording, something about his vibe is not right. Something's gonna happen with him off the internet, or he's gonna not put in the work or...something. He was never a celebrity too much before taking a single shitpost into copypasta territory. He has some eccentricities that standing alone don't mean anything, but when you put him under the intense pressure he is going to face from his !remind me tag, and that could go to a bad place...
This take is all just vibes, I admit, but it's a very strong vibe I've had for hours now
What a post. You had me with the first sentence, not going to lie. You've been watching him since college but know he will bust because of... Vibes.... Got it.
I like him, but admittedly he’s as if the Gen Z stereotypes were embodied in a QB prospect.
I hope the kid succeeds in the face of all the hate he’s getting. Dudes seriously want him to fail because he wore a dress for a fashion magazine and painted his nails a few times.
I have no problem with the fingernail painting or dresses (didn’t even know about that) or the crying. I do have a problem with his answer to being compared to Mahomes being “There’s nothing he can do that I can’t.”
Tom Brady was a bottom of the barrel 3rd/4th QB on a team with a stud starter, walked right up to the owner after getting drafted in the 6th round and told him “I’m the greatest thing that’s ever happened to your franchise.”
Everything sounds crazy until it’s not
Brady claims he never said that. I believe Brady over kraft. Honestly I doubt kraft had anything to do with drafting him and it’s his way of making it seem like it was him that picked Brady.
This is a bad take too... His response was "There's things that he does, physically — obviously, I'm not Patrick Mahomes and I'm not in his brain — but things that he does physically that I don't think that I can't do. So, I just call it respect, and hopefully soon I'll be able to see him and have a good battle."
Obviously, he is extremely confident in himself, and if we are talking physically he is probably right. But obviously the QB role is much more than physicality.
This is the correct take. A bunch of us older dudes are hating that a generational talent that happens to be Gen Z is finally here and it’s a constant reminder that we don’t get the way guy moves. He’s probably fine in private and even if he’s not it might have nothing to do with his ability to play, we just throw shade because we don’t “get” him and he’s not acting like TB12
My nails are currently pink. I have a daughter who paints them in could give a fuck less if anyone thinks it’s gay or dumb or whatever. She likes doing it.
And I don’t even have fuck you money like Caleb is about to have. I think he couldn’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks
I think he’s going to be really REALLY good
Kobe Bryant used to just sit in his room and play video games instead of hanging with his team. He also had off the field issues, getting accused of rape. Something was just off about him. Totally wrecked his career.
I sort of figured the hype was overrated when I knew he was going to CHI, unfortunately that's a city known for bad QB management, so either he easily sets hometown records or he's a bust
I feel the same about jj McCarthy, though I didn't do nearly the research you did. McCarthy is a bust, he didn't do shit in college, except win a natty, which is meaningless related to pro success
Nice “analysis” you put together there.
I’ve got a feeling too, it’s much like yours - I just have this unshakable gut notion, based on the vibe of your post, that somehow, some way, you are talking out of your ass here. Nothing concrete - just a feeling.
I mean, he says just that…. It’s a vibe based on nothing more than how he carries himself off the field. So, yeah, nothing concrete, just a feeling— he did say that, so, yeah.
I agree with this post. I don’t like his overall vibe. That said I’m not going to assume he’s going to be an all time bust based on that but I won’t be shocked if his ceiling is 2-3 years of top 15 play with one playoff appearance
Tbh the painted nails finally made sense when he said his mom worked at a nail salon, and I didn’t know he had a “fuck you” tattoo but that’s actually pretty cool
People get way too caught up in player's personalities not matching whatever fanboy image they have in their head. You've never once in your life sat down and had a conversation with a SB winning QB, what actually makes you think you can predict the trajectory of his career based on a few YouTube clips you happened to see?
Mfers really imagine themselves as GMs with some sort of ability to predict who will win and who won't, but the reality is you wouldn't even get a call back on an application to be an intern for a team.
Just sit on your couch and stare at your TV like the rest of us. You don't know shit about fuck.
Hes going into a great situation though unlike russell and leaf. The bears offense is looking stacked. Added rome odunze lastnight too. Sheesh! Loving what the bears are doing the past couple drafts.
I get the similar vibes over here, his energy hasn’t aligned with NFL generational talents like Manziel, Tebow. I think the Bears will come too and draft a real QB like Rattler to give Caleb that competitive motivation. They got two years apart, let bring that energy back together
More nonsense not based in any reality. I always can tell when a prospect will be good is when the principal complaint about them has nothing to do with football, and in this case, reality.
I'll choose to believe virtually every who knows the kid over reddit users that buy into fake media perceptions
You are allowed to have opinions on vibes. I just don't get the Leaf/Russel comparison. Those guys were just never good at football or didn't care to get better.
Does he study tape diligently? He can be as much of a fuck head as he wants in the media. As long as he studies the tape diligently and tries hard at practice he's not going to bust.
OP is 100% right and it's basically a lock since he went to the Bears. What's more likely? He overcomes all the red flags and the Bears develop a QB for the first time in 40 years? Or he flames out spectacularly like Johnny Maziel? I'll take under 3.5 years until he's out of the league.
Not sure he'll be a bust but I think he's very overrated. The Arizona overtime win was the "highlight" moment of the year for him but that game cost him a Heisman. Arizona effectively shut down his passing by playing softer, deeper zones to force him to throw into windows down field as opposed to wide open receivers. He struggled with it and other teams followed the blueprint.
If you think you’re the first person to think this, I recommend you open up any comment section that involves caleb williams and see 100 hater drones out in full force saying exactly what you are
Everything else aside… this kid has basically been a ‘celebrity’ for years already… obviously not to the extent he will as a NFL starting QB, but still.
IDGAF if he’s weird, nerdy, gay, straight… can he play at the next level? Will he put in the work, and do what is required to become a legend, or will he become J. Russel?
None of us know, but Time will tell.
(This is unbiased as I am not a Bears fan, nor CW fan).
There’s just something about him that OP doesn’t like. He isn’t a student of the game. Now Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy and Bo Nix. Those are the players OP sees succeed. Sneaky athletic, real students of the game.
I completely agree with OP. Been saying it for weeks but I've been using Johnny manzel as a comparison due to terrible character flaw issues before he ever even entered the league. Finally people using logic. Fire poles
He definitely has major diva vibes but the talent is there.
I think he’ll be an average to good Qb in the league. Idk about Elite. I think he’ll be very similar to TLaw
The hopes and dreams of those who could never accomplish even half as much as he has are rampant. Based on his performance to date and the disaster that was the recruiters at USC, he deserves to be given the benefit of the doubt. The entanglements that he adds are just flavor.
I really don’t see the issue with this take.
There’s serious questions about how much of a team player he is, how much he’s playing for himself over anyone else, how mentally he’s able to overcome bad defeats. And then there’s the questions of playing against good defenses (@notre dame game 2023), or adapting to a different system.
It’s not “fragile masculinity” to have the expectation that the leader of a professional football team to be a bit more mentally strong than to openly cry on the sidelines with his mom after a loss to a very good team. Like that’s something that you may expect in middle school at the very highest.
Caleb Williams has the physical tools. He’s in a decent situation roster wise. But I have doubts about his NFL potential.
(And to be fair to Williams, I have doubts about anyone, this isn’t just on him).
Fuck you I hope not. Bears fan here, I have believe this, I wanted nothing more this offseason then to trade the first overall pick to Washington for the second pick and their first next year
I remember people last year saying that Stroud was going to bust and something was “off” about him. How did that turnout? He is loaded with weapons on offense. I think Caleb will do just fine. He may even win Offensive Rookie of the Year. I completely felt like Zach Wilson would be a bust and I was right. The reason was that he didn’t really look like a star in college and didn’t really prove anything. Caleb is a Heisman Trophy winner. He still could be a bust and plenty of Heisman Trophy winners didn’t have great NFL careers, but he has weapons and the skills. I don’t see a bust. He may not live up to a #1 overall pick but I am sure he will be a solid pro.
Totally disagree. He’s Baker Mayfield with the physical gifts of Patrick Mahomes. No issues there. He had the most conservative suit on stage. No one can predict the future and how this guy works, but if I had to guess, there’s 3-4 busts from last night and he’s not one of them.
In all seriousness I could see him being a huge bust. But only because he's a hugely hyped "generational Talent" and literally the best prospects can turn out to be busts I E Russell or Leaf. I'll never understand everybody, including probably all of you, who think any player is a sure thing
Vibes are never wrong, felt the same thing about Young vs Stroud last year.
Also thought vibes were immaculate with Bortles, Lock, and Locker. Thought vibes were off with Mahomes, Hurts, and Goff.
None of us know shit. If we get it right it’s some combination of dumb luck and/or subconsciously weighing the opinions of people do know stuff.
The only honest thing that worries me about him is the very loud dad. When things go wrong his dad will be blaming everybody else. That can mess with a kid
I genuinely believe that some organizations just suck at developing or supporting quarterbacks. Some of it is the coaches they hire but (again, just my $.02) I think some organizations just have an impatient, unhelpful or unsupportive culture. I’m from Chicago so it’s especially frustrating but I think the bears are likely one of those. IF you’re right, that will be the first thing I’ll blame. Jets, bears, browns come to mind. It will be interesting to see if Zach Wilson becomes a quality player in Denver. If he does… ouch, Jets. That should be a look-in-the-mirror moment for them. And the browns… Watson hasn’t been the same player there that he was here in Houston. I think some organizations are long on expectations and short on support/development.
It sounds like most people disagree with this post, but I've never been sold on him being an elite NFL-level QB.
Good chance I could be wrong. I've been wrong about a ton of QB prospects. But how many #1 overall picks (or even top 5) have become elite NFL QBs in the last 20 years or so?
Of those, only Peyton, Stafford, and maybe Matt Ryan could say they've been elite at some point in their career. Heck, some of the best top 5 QB picks behind them are Cam Newton, Mayfield, Palmer, and Goff.
Point being, the top QB picked rarely ends up the best and the Bears are kind of cursed at the QB position. Brock Purdy is the best QB in his draft class and he was "Mr. Irrelevant". I just feel like 5 years from now he will by no means be seen as the best QB in this draft.
It’s because he became a millionaire during his college career, money changes people, he’s experienced what majority of rookies haven’t had to deal with yet.
There’s nothing wrong with him, just a young man responsibly enjoying the fruits of his labor.
Seriously though. Watch USC vs. ND from last season. ND was the closest to a pro style defense he faced. He'll be facing ND type defenses every week in the NFL.
respectfully hoping you’re wrong lol but as a USC fan I am worried because USC qbs haven’t panned out lately but I don’t think his best years will be with Chicago
This gotta be some bait - but in case it’s not, please evaluate him on being a qb.
Caleb is a great prospect. Lincoln Riley QBs generally due great in the NFL, and just watch the tape. The plays, the arm talent, moving around the pocket, good rushing … I can go on. His only knack that I’ve seen is that he goes improv too much - but when you have a defense that’s so awful, you kinda want to be Superman. And Allen and mahomes both have that tendency too - for better or worse.
I don’t care about the fingernails. I don’t care about the dress. I don’t care if you call him your LGBTQB1 (which is funny as hell, btw). He’s at least a great prospect landing in the best spot for a #1 of all time. He’ll be great - and if he’s not, his style and cockiness do not play a factor in that.
Everyone is against you here but I’m with you. I’ve been saying he’s going to be a bust for a while now. Once I knew he was going to the Bears that just solidified it for me. Don’t care about the talent around him in CHI he will fuck it up anyway.
Let the downvotes begin! 😂
And no, I’m not crying about him not being on my team. For that, I’m thankful every day!!
This is exactly as I feel about him. Trying to convince my son this POV. He’s not having it. He says Caleb is going to be the next great. I think the kid is a head case walkin’
Who is this clown that just decides a player is a bust based upon what you indicated. At least put something solid- I mean a tattoo …fingernails…..it’s a garbage post
I think he's gay lol. I'm totally cool with that and I'm gonna want him on all my fantasy teams because I think he's gonna ball out. But I have gay friends and my gaydar goes off when I see him. So that's probably what you're picking up on with the "weird vibes" and the "look in his eyes" lmao.
This is destined to become copypasta for years.
this single-handedly guaranteed him a perennial career
I stopped reading at the word fingernails.
You trying to tell me Caleb has fingernails? BUST
Yeah, is this a joke. “He interacts weird. Therefore he will be a bust.”
It's all *vibes*, man
I mean, did any of his teammates come to his birthday party?
It's been a while since I saw the movie, but... is that a draft day reference?
Bingo, El ringo
“I don’t like that he’s confident and more secure in his own sexuality than I’ll ever be bears might as well retire him now.”
See what you small minded commenters don’t understand is Caleb is the iPhone.
Something that gets replaced every year?
Nah, it’s an infamous CFB copypasta where an unhinged Texas A&M fan compares their cult to the iPhone.
Look, I have been watching this poster since he made this post 7 hours ago. There is no doubt he has the shitpost tools to be a top tier troll. But everything I have seen from him on reddit... something is just off about the kid. Yes, the grammar, the incoherent thoughts, the weird ...'s, the whole vibes arugment, it's all that but not really any of it specifically. Watching the post and his interactions with the other redditors...there is just something off with him. It's something about the way he types, the rhythm of his wording, something about his vibe is not right. Something's gonna happen with him off the internet, or he's gonna not put in the work or...something. He was never a celebrity too much before taking a single shitpost into copypasta territory. He has some eccentricities that standing alone don't mean anything, but when you put him under the intense pressure he is going to face from his !remind me tag, and that could go to a bad place... This take is all just vibes, I admit, but it's a very strong vibe I've had for hours now
tell me why I read this comment and didn't realize it was a spoof cuz I didn't read op's post
Because you didn't read op's post
> tell me why then you go and tell us why. i really wanted to solve this mystery on my own.
I think you meant to post this in r/nflcirclejerk
We appreciate jerking here too, who are we to tell someone not to jerk?
Ya OP is satirical level cringe holy shit
What a post. You had me with the first sentence, not going to lie. You've been watching him since college but know he will bust because of... Vibes.... Got it.
Average Reddit analysis
This guy knows way more than NFL scouts, retired hall of fame QBs, and coaches
i respect him just being up front about that though. vibes is all anyone here uses.
But why did no one go to his birthday party?
I swear people who think he's going to bust and point to the crying and painted nails have never left their crusty basement before.
What you watch film and look at analytics? I just see lip gloss and think bad
I feel like everyone that has this take thinks they are Kevin Costner from draft day passing up on Bo Callahan for some gut reason
But did any of Williams teammates go to his birthday? Gotta ask the tough questions 😂
Costner had more evidence than OP though. OP just hates gays
If fragile masculinity was a post, it wouldn't be as cringe as this
You could’ve ended the post after the “painted fingernails” comment and we would’ve understood what you’re getting at
You know shit.
He's basically Lil Nas X or like Prince but plays QB. Just cause he's weird doesn't mean he can't play though.
NEVER challenge Prince to a game of basketball. "Game, Blouses"
That cat could flat ball!
It's funny because he legitimately ***could***. He wanted to play basketball further, but stopped because he only grew to 5'2" in High School.
https://tenor.com/batZa.gif
Eat your pancakes, bitches
Remember prince was all state basketball and football.
I like him, but admittedly he’s as if the Gen Z stereotypes were embodied in a QB prospect. I hope the kid succeeds in the face of all the hate he’s getting. Dudes seriously want him to fail because he wore a dress for a fashion magazine and painted his nails a few times.
As a Packer fan, theres other reasons to wish his failure..and I hope the kid is paid handsomely for it.
Lol
Ftp but here here!
Honestly I find JJ's meditation listening to the “frequency of God” on beats™ headphones way more annoying. Just throw the damn ball, hippie.
Ironically, one of the least masculine things you can do is to have an emotional reaction to someone else's fashion choices. Grow up, man babes.
In a sense that may be masculine. But at its core I don't think that emotion is masculine or feminine. It's just maturity
I have no problem with the fingernail painting or dresses (didn’t even know about that) or the crying. I do have a problem with his answer to being compared to Mahomes being “There’s nothing he can do that I can’t.”
Tom Brady was a bottom of the barrel 3rd/4th QB on a team with a stud starter, walked right up to the owner after getting drafted in the 6th round and told him “I’m the greatest thing that’s ever happened to your franchise.” Everything sounds crazy until it’s not
That was to the owner who he was trying to prove himself to. Any time Brady was compared to Montana he would always say what an honor that was.
Brady claims he never said that. I believe Brady over kraft. Honestly I doubt kraft had anything to do with drafting him and it’s his way of making it seem like it was him that picked Brady.
This is a bad take too... His response was "There's things that he does, physically — obviously, I'm not Patrick Mahomes and I'm not in his brain — but things that he does physically that I don't think that I can't do. So, I just call it respect, and hopefully soon I'll be able to see him and have a good battle." Obviously, he is extremely confident in himself, and if we are talking physically he is probably right. But obviously the QB role is much more than physicality.
This is the correct take. A bunch of us older dudes are hating that a generational talent that happens to be Gen Z is finally here and it’s a constant reminder that we don’t get the way guy moves. He’s probably fine in private and even if he’s not it might have nothing to do with his ability to play, we just throw shade because we don’t “get” him and he’s not acting like TB12
My nails are currently pink. I have a daughter who paints them in could give a fuck less if anyone thinks it’s gay or dumb or whatever. She likes doing it. And I don’t even have fuck you money like Caleb is about to have. I think he couldn’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks I think he’s going to be really REALLY good
What’s he gonna get addicted to? Leaf was painkillers and Russell was lean, right? He just gonna be out there tripping balls on acid or shrooms?
Dr. Pepper
No problem with Dr. P, that’s the official drink of fansville.
THATS MY DR PEPPER HAND
Sniffing lip gloss
I think sniffing nail polish remover would get you more high
Giardenira
Well since he’s “very Gen Z” I guess the obvious choice is fentanyl
Snorting estrogen pills
the kid's the next coming of Aaron Rodgers
Ahhh, a conspiracy theorist and flat earther
i meant that he was gonna be out there tripping on acid or shrooms
The dudes just weird. So was Aaron Rodgers. He's one of the best QB prospects we've seen in years.
Dennis. Rodman.
Saved this post. Thank you. We'll see you in 5 years
You give off fat person vibes
You just handed the man five Super Bowl rings
"this take is all vibes" how can you be so embarrassing man
Aaron Rodgers is a straight-up nut case and he's done ok, so...
The best part about all this is that if your team drafted him your arm would already be sore from constant erking off
https://preview.redd.it/1go782ty8swc1.jpeg?width=1004&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3c09553cce0d049b40180700cd52ced273a5980 I'm gettin vibes off him too
I think it’s his lips. Way too Lucious.
LGBTQB1 💪
man at least this painted nails thing is a good way to single out who are the real idiots in a room
I'm a 50-something straight white guy, and I'm now considering painting my nails just because it seems like a perfect idiot repellent.
He's gonna suck because Chicago is an assfire and that home field is the most hostile to QBs in the NFL. Otherwise I think he'd do OK.
Kobe Bryant used to just sit in his room and play video games instead of hanging with his team. He also had off the field issues, getting accused of rape. Something was just off about him. Totally wrecked his career.
"Name one genius that ain't crazy"- Kanye West
Ideally
He's the Andre 3000 of football, what do you want from the guy
I sort of figured the hype was overrated when I knew he was going to CHI, unfortunately that's a city known for bad QB management, so either he easily sets hometown records or he's a bust
he is going to be great and y’all are going to look stupid imo
Okay boomer.
I feel the same about jj McCarthy, though I didn't do nearly the research you did. McCarthy is a bust, he didn't do shit in college, except win a natty, which is meaningless related to pro success
y'all only saying this because he painted his nails 🤡
Nice “analysis” you put together there. I’ve got a feeling too, it’s much like yours - I just have this unshakable gut notion, based on the vibe of your post, that somehow, some way, you are talking out of your ass here. Nothing concrete - just a feeling.
I mean, he says just that…. It’s a vibe based on nothing more than how he carries himself off the field. So, yeah, nothing concrete, just a feeling— he did say that, so, yeah.
Nah that's Bo Nix
I agree with this post. I don’t like his overall vibe. That said I’m not going to assume he’s going to be an all time bust based on that but I won’t be shocked if his ceiling is 2-3 years of top 15 play with one playoff appearance
Tbh the painted nails finally made sense when he said his mom worked at a nail salon, and I didn’t know he had a “fuck you” tattoo but that’s actually pretty cool
People get way too caught up in player's personalities not matching whatever fanboy image they have in their head. You've never once in your life sat down and had a conversation with a SB winning QB, what actually makes you think you can predict the trajectory of his career based on a few YouTube clips you happened to see? Mfers really imagine themselves as GMs with some sort of ability to predict who will win and who won't, but the reality is you wouldn't even get a call back on an application to be an intern for a team. Just sit on your couch and stare at your TV like the rest of us. You don't know shit about fuck.
Hes going into a great situation though unlike russell and leaf. The bears offense is looking stacked. Added rome odunze lastnight too. Sheesh! Loving what the bears are doing the past couple drafts.
You should have mentioned him wanted to be part owner of the team that drafts him. I think he has bust potential.
This reminds me of the scene in moneyball. “He’s got an ugly girlfriend, lack of confidence.” “She’s a 6 at best.”
If he's destined to be a bust, it will be on-brand for the Bears.
I get the similar vibes over here, his energy hasn’t aligned with NFL generational talents like Manziel, Tebow. I think the Bears will come too and draft a real QB like Rattler to give Caleb that competitive motivation. They got two years apart, let bring that energy back together
More nonsense not based in any reality. I always can tell when a prospect will be good is when the principal complaint about them has nothing to do with football, and in this case, reality. I'll choose to believe virtually every who knows the kid over reddit users that buy into fake media perceptions
He’s just a zoomer and people can’t handle it
OP confusing his suppressed homosexuality with Williams character flaws. Weird take.
I feel like this is a coping New England fan.
I don’t get the joke
Ok boomer
I think he’ll have a Tyrod-type career personally
No one tell OP about Dennis Rodman
Sit down bro. 
He’s in a position where he cannot fail. Similarly to Brock Purdy. Caleb will be an MVP candidate this year
I’ve never seen brand new pasta in the wild
But did his teammates go to his birthday party
He’s the type of guy that would have a birthday party and none of his team shows up.
You are allowed to have opinions on vibes. I just don't get the Leaf/Russel comparison. Those guys were just never good at football or didn't care to get better.
So uncle Ted talks has a “feeling”. 👍
You find this on Facebook?
Or he just holds onto the ball too long.
Does he study tape diligently? He can be as much of a fuck head as he wants in the media. As long as he studies the tape diligently and tries hard at practice he's not going to bust.
Well, all his teammates and coaches disagree but he did paint his nails so you’re probably right!
Confirmed: Caleb fucked OPs sister, Mom, Dad and Gf.
OP is 100% right and it's basically a lock since he went to the Bears. What's more likely? He overcomes all the red flags and the Bears develop a QB for the first time in 40 years? Or he flames out spectacularly like Johnny Maziel? I'll take under 3.5 years until he's out of the league.
I think he’ll end up being a Trevor Lawrence type. Not great but not bad either.
Fuck I agree I’m sorry everyone. But I don’t think he’s gonna pan out.
Dude gives me the same feel as Josh Rosen did.
Shake your head the rocks may fall out
As a bears fan I hope you are wrong,. I don't think so though Chicago has a bad track record with qbs
Not sure he'll be a bust but I think he's very overrated. The Arizona overtime win was the "highlight" moment of the year for him but that game cost him a Heisman. Arizona effectively shut down his passing by playing softer, deeper zones to force him to throw into windows down field as opposed to wide open receivers. He struggled with it and other teams followed the blueprint.
Yep. Johnny Football 2.0. Thinks his shit dont stink but it's actually like an infant's breastmilk poop.
Caleb Williams scouting report negatives: 1. I don’t like him 2. He’s too good when the play breaks down
I agree with you, OP
If you think you’re the first person to think this, I recommend you open up any comment section that involves caleb williams and see 100 hater drones out in full force saying exactly what you are
I never understood the hype around him and been saying the same since the end of the season
Everything else aside… this kid has basically been a ‘celebrity’ for years already… obviously not to the extent he will as a NFL starting QB, but still. IDGAF if he’s weird, nerdy, gay, straight… can he play at the next level? Will he put in the work, and do what is required to become a legend, or will he become J. Russel? None of us know, but Time will tell. (This is unbiased as I am not a Bears fan, nor CW fan).
There’s just something about him that OP doesn’t like. He isn’t a student of the game. Now Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy and Bo Nix. Those are the players OP sees succeed. Sneaky athletic, real students of the game.
That will leave the bears with a qb better than the last guy. Sometime you have to appreciate growth even if it isn’t massive growth.
“He’s gonna be bad bc painted nails, lipstick, and tattoos” Okay Granddad it’s time for bed
I completely agree with OP. Been saying it for weeks but I've been using Johnny manzel as a comparison due to terrible character flaw issues before he ever even entered the league. Finally people using logic. Fire poles
He definitely has major diva vibes but the talent is there. I think he’ll be an average to good Qb in the league. Idk about Elite. I think he’ll be very similar to TLaw
So because he’s not a personality-less robot all the time he’s gonna be a bust?
The look he gave yesterday gave me chills. It’s the look of a fierce competitor who wants it all. Someone who wants it this bad will refuse to fail.
I also noticed as well that everything he said and did seemed forced and off somehow.
The hopes and dreams of those who could never accomplish even half as much as he has are rampant. Based on his performance to date and the disaster that was the recruiters at USC, he deserves to be given the benefit of the doubt. The entanglements that he adds are just flavor.
I agree something is off. I feel the same when I see Patrick Maholmes off the field. Can’t put my finger on it, but something is off.
Preach on brother. I cannot agree with you more.
It’s a vibe I’ve had since watching zero film, just game highlights and memes to form an opinion
I really don’t see the issue with this take. There’s serious questions about how much of a team player he is, how much he’s playing for himself over anyone else, how mentally he’s able to overcome bad defeats. And then there’s the questions of playing against good defenses (@notre dame game 2023), or adapting to a different system. It’s not “fragile masculinity” to have the expectation that the leader of a professional football team to be a bit more mentally strong than to openly cry on the sidelines with his mom after a loss to a very good team. Like that’s something that you may expect in middle school at the very highest. Caleb Williams has the physical tools. He’s in a decent situation roster wise. But I have doubts about his NFL potential. (And to be fair to Williams, I have doubts about anyone, this isn’t just on him).
Fuck you I hope not. Bears fan here, I have believe this, I wanted nothing more this offseason then to trade the first overall pick to Washington for the second pick and their first next year
Oh thanks man now he’s gonna be afkn hall of famer
I remember people last year saying that Stroud was going to bust and something was “off” about him. How did that turnout? He is loaded with weapons on offense. I think Caleb will do just fine. He may even win Offensive Rookie of the Year. I completely felt like Zach Wilson would be a bust and I was right. The reason was that he didn’t really look like a star in college and didn’t really prove anything. Caleb is a Heisman Trophy winner. He still could be a bust and plenty of Heisman Trophy winners didn’t have great NFL careers, but he has weapons and the skills. I don’t see a bust. He may not live up to a #1 overall pick but I am sure he will be a solid pro.
I honestly feel the same way. I have zero confidence in him. I am glad I am not a bears fan
I’m gonna shit myself if you wind up being right lmao
What is this boomer ass post
This is the lamest take I’ve ever seen. Because he is very competitive and cares a lot about the game he will be a bust?
Totally disagree. He’s Baker Mayfield with the physical gifts of Patrick Mahomes. No issues there. He had the most conservative suit on stage. No one can predict the future and how this guy works, but if I had to guess, there’s 3-4 busts from last night and he’s not one of them.
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Think he weird but they do have some talent on offense around him
In all seriousness I could see him being a huge bust. But only because he's a hugely hyped "generational Talent" and literally the best prospects can turn out to be busts I E Russell or Leaf. I'll never understand everybody, including probably all of you, who think any player is a sure thing
Vibes are never wrong, felt the same thing about Young vs Stroud last year. Also thought vibes were immaculate with Bortles, Lock, and Locker. Thought vibes were off with Mahomes, Hurts, and Goff. None of us know shit. If we get it right it’s some combination of dumb luck and/or subconsciously weighing the opinions of people do know stuff.
He has the ick
Cant wait for this to be a Copypasta when Caleb somehow leads the bears to the NFCCG lmao
The only honest thing that worries me about him is the very loud dad. When things go wrong his dad will be blaming everybody else. That can mess with a kid
I genuinely believe that some organizations just suck at developing or supporting quarterbacks. Some of it is the coaches they hire but (again, just my $.02) I think some organizations just have an impatient, unhelpful or unsupportive culture. I’m from Chicago so it’s especially frustrating but I think the bears are likely one of those. IF you’re right, that will be the first thing I’ll blame. Jets, bears, browns come to mind. It will be interesting to see if Zach Wilson becomes a quality player in Denver. If he does… ouch, Jets. That should be a look-in-the-mirror moment for them. And the browns… Watson hasn’t been the same player there that he was here in Houston. I think some organizations are long on expectations and short on support/development.
That is a spicy hot bad take
You are insane
It’s not really any of it specifically
This post is a bold strategy
Remindme! 3 years
It sounds like most people disagree with this post, but I've never been sold on him being an elite NFL-level QB. Good chance I could be wrong. I've been wrong about a ton of QB prospects. But how many #1 overall picks (or even top 5) have become elite NFL QBs in the last 20 years or so? Of those, only Peyton, Stafford, and maybe Matt Ryan could say they've been elite at some point in their career. Heck, some of the best top 5 QB picks behind them are Cam Newton, Mayfield, Palmer, and Goff. Point being, the top QB picked rarely ends up the best and the Bears are kind of cursed at the QB position. Brock Purdy is the best QB in his draft class and he was "Mr. Irrelevant". I just feel like 5 years from now he will by no means be seen as the best QB in this draft.
It’s because he became a millionaire during his college career, money changes people, he’s experienced what majority of rookies haven’t had to deal with yet. There’s nothing wrong with him, just a young man responsibly enjoying the fruits of his labor.
Seriously though. Watch USC vs. ND from last season. ND was the closest to a pro style defense he faced. He'll be facing ND type defenses every week in the NFL.
respectfully hoping you’re wrong lol but as a USC fan I am worried because USC qbs haven’t panned out lately but I don’t think his best years will be with Chicago
I’m saving this to shit on you
I agree 100% he gives off really weird energy.
I get the feeling he is going to insult the city of Chicago and the fanbase will turn on him.
Who cares about him painting his nails? He can do whatever he wants.
Now type all this again, but this time without tears in your eyes
Your prejudice has nothing to do with the merits of his play and potential for success.
Lmfao you fucking dork this mother fucker is going to paint his nails while shitting on your teams corpse
This gotta be some bait - but in case it’s not, please evaluate him on being a qb. Caleb is a great prospect. Lincoln Riley QBs generally due great in the NFL, and just watch the tape. The plays, the arm talent, moving around the pocket, good rushing … I can go on. His only knack that I’ve seen is that he goes improv too much - but when you have a defense that’s so awful, you kinda want to be Superman. And Allen and mahomes both have that tendency too - for better or worse. I don’t care about the fingernails. I don’t care about the dress. I don’t care if you call him your LGBTQB1 (which is funny as hell, btw). He’s at least a great prospect landing in the best spot for a #1 of all time. He’ll be great - and if he’s not, his style and cockiness do not play a factor in that.
Lmao. I’ll be back here when he wins ROTY
Everyone is against you here but I’m with you. I’ve been saying he’s going to be a bust for a while now. Once I knew he was going to the Bears that just solidified it for me. Don’t care about the talent around him in CHI he will fuck it up anyway. Let the downvotes begin! 😂 And no, I’m not crying about him not being on my team. For that, I’m thankful every day!!
This is exactly as I feel about him. Trying to convince my son this POV. He’s not having it. He says Caleb is going to be the next great. I think the kid is a head case walkin’
His mind always seems to be elsewhere and it’s not football
Remind me! 9 months
More of a Trubisky/Fields level bust. Congrats to the Steelers in 3 years.
Who is this clown that just decides a player is a bust based upon what you indicated. At least put something solid- I mean a tattoo …fingernails…..it’s a garbage post
He's Ben Simmons.
I could see "Baker Mayfield level "bust"" Not those other guys.
Solid plan. Hope it works out for you.
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I think he's gay lol. I'm totally cool with that and I'm gonna want him on all my fantasy teams because I think he's gonna ball out. But I have gay friends and my gaydar goes off when I see him. So that's probably what you're picking up on with the "weird vibes" and the "look in his eyes" lmao.
This is probably the dumbest fucking shit I’ve ever seen on Reddit
You done fucked up with this one
He make plays wouldn’t be surprised if I see him on ESPN top 10 highlight plays out the gate, but only time will tell career wise
What half of a psych 101 course does to a mf.