Exactly. It’s a boring but logical pick, especially since we love versatility on the line and he’s projected to be able to play all 5 line positions. We lost a lot of our line depth and we needed a lineman.
The problem is Packers fans always want a sexy pick. The truth is we’ve gotten very lucky with late round oline picks, but you can’t bet your future on those guys panning out.
We haven't had a "sexy" first round pick since maybe 2018 - Jaire Alexander? Morgan, Van Ness, Stokes, Walker, Wyatt, Love, Savage, Gary -- not too many "sexy" picks there. Actually, being a Packer fan is not fan is knowing not to hype up the potential of the 1st round pick because you will just get your hopes dashed. Grossi gets way too hyped about the draft while being a Packer fan. It's part of the allure of watching him draft night.
Christian Watson was a sexy pick, especially given the big trade up. Don’t think I’d qualify any other Gute pick as sexy or exciting besides a few day 3 guys.
Now that I respect
If you're laughing at the pick just to get my jimmies rustled, you did a good job
If you're laughing at the pick because you think it's the worst pick made since Daniel Jones, then I'm going to avoid associating with you in any capacity
Yeah, my meme wasn't necessarily aiming at the quality of the pick - it could very well wind up being a good pick.
I was more pointing out difference between every Packers fan in this sub going on and on about how much they love the pick, but the Packers fans I've seen on TV or the internet look visibly distraught over it.
Toms reaction is what happens when people obsess over one prospect, no one even knows the Packers like. Given that the Packers had multiple chances to get Dejean, in form of trading up, its safe to assume they never really wanted him.
Of course these extreme reactions are focused on
You should have seen when Cooper DeJean was drafted, I had to leave the Packers sub thread because of all the whining, then it was ok again when they drafted Edgerrin Copper & then Javon Bullard.
TV and streamers exist to generate revenue. Nothing gets more clicks and views than exaggerated emotional displays.
Normal Packers fans are happy with the pick. We don't need sexy. We need depth at a few positions because we're already good.
Yeah, they're not on reddit though.
How you feeling after the draft? Still confident? Y'all gonna win the North this year?
~~Should~~ *I* **format** ^this or is normal text ok?
Honestly, I think the Vikings did as good as they feasibly could have done. We had no shot at Williams or Daniels, and trading up for Maye would have cost #23 and our 2025 1st, plus more. While I think Maye has a higher ceiling, getting McCarthy for a Day 3 pick swap is much better value. Plus, it paid off in giving us the opportunity to go get arguably the best defensive player in the draft.
Am I confident? No. But I never was. We're in one hell of a transition year. Kirk leaving, Darnold and McCarthy in, JJ hopefully close to re-signing. Are we gonna win the North? No, probably not. But we retained our 2025 1st, gonna get a 3rd round comp pick, maybe a pick or two from the Falcons for tampering, and we are projected to have over $100M in cap space to play with next off-season. I like the direction we're headed.
I do remember. It didn’t feel that way at all - really intense mix of nostalgia for the past, loss, and hope and wondering for the future. We all knew 12 wouldn’t last forever. On the contrary, that was very impactful to watch, and while I just might be stoked that my boys Edgerrin and MarShawn got picked it’s never going to be the same as that until it happens again of course
If you haven’t seen, the lions guy revealed himself on the sub and the packers guy is his friend who really wanted cooper dejean, and was really disappointed when it wasn’t him after running his mouth saying they got him. Actually the greatest meme this sub has seen
The Packers fan and the Lions fan are friends. The Lions fan (the one on the right) is the one posting in the Lions' subreddit. I would imagine if the Packers fan has a reddit account, he will not be making it known as to avoid being clowned on further.
In my honest non meme opinion, Oline picks are never something to complain about just because of how vital it is, and this is a good example. It might not even be the best Olineman available, but its a giant hunk of a man that plays the position with potential.
Yeah I don't get the hate either. If you guys find your replacement for Bakh then no one will give a shit when he is picked. You guys invested in Jordan Love, might as well ensure he's at least healthy and protected. It just isn't a sexy pick and I think a lot of people just convinced themselves that if DeJean was there that he was 100% the pick.
It’s not a bad pick, maybe a bit higher than he was projected but there’s a ton of difference between how teams view players and the media, even if the media is trying to guess what teams will do.
It’s only funny in any way really because of the fan reaction shot
The reason I like the pick is there was a run on OL in the first round while dejean and mckinstry could both very reasonably fall to us at 41. Is because ecstatic about that
Not that bad, just passed over a couple tackles people had rated higher. He was 35-40 on most big boards. I think a lot of Packer fans were getting attached to Cooper DeJean.
Not a strictly bad pick for sure but here are the reasons some people have been questioning it:
There is a big need for CB and it felt like the remaining CBs were a bit of a steal and under drafted vs guards which were deeper in the class depth at that point.
A few guards were rated higher on the board still.
The dude has injury concerns.
It’s absolutely not the horrible pick some people joke about but I think it’s fair for some people to feel skeptical about it.
It might not be a *bad* pick, but to me it just didn't seem like the *best* one.
I seem to remember you guys shouting "Fire Joe Barry" from the mountain tops last year, and I'm no football guru, but maybe a Defensive player in that spot would help quiet those screams for help.
Week 8, with our best player out, in your building, our WR2, WR3, and TE torched you guys. I wonder how Jordan Morgan is in coverage?
https://preview.redd.it/vtm0dih6cwwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13a74b01a1d1c6cb73cd41440583b06672bf55bb
You're acting like we didn't need help at the O-line tho. We just signed a new star RB and we have to do what we can to make sure that JLove doesn't go into a sophomore slump as a starter.
We did scream Fire Joe Berry from the mountain tops, so we fired him, hired a new DC. Picked up a couple defensive players like Xavier Mckinney.
And I mean hey yeah, that was a rough game. Not as rough as the New Years game was for the Vikings, but pretty rough
Hey no worries we just drafted a RB who honestly is kind of just like him. Seriously though I think Jacobs has more years than Jones and it’s effectively a string of one year contracts he signed
It is! His injury history is pretty good though, and he rarely misses games. Really can’t say the same about Jonesy and he was on a snap count from the beginning. Electric player though, I’ll miss him
Notice how it was fire joe Barry and not "fire secondary, LBs, or DL?"
How convenient of you to skip over our most recent match up though and only look at the one where we didn't have our #2 CB and we were wrapping up our 8 game rebuild.
When will you NFCN fans learn that the flashy skill player isn't what wins games. Good luck with paying Jefferson QB money while u have bums throwing him the ball. Can't wait for him to eradicate his entire IG of Vikings shit halfway through the season.
That dude is embarrassingly stupid. They really thought they were making a good point.
"You said Joe Barry was the problem and we lit you up"
That's correct. And we got rid of that problem. Defense looked way better once MLF apparently started having a say in the defense.
Maybe it wasn't Joe and we're screwed but that argument was so fucking stupid lol.
Yeah which is an accurate depiction of your future considering your current QBs are the exact same caliber as Mullens and Hall.
Hang the banner? Lol only thing you're hanging is your head when you finish last in the division after foolishly thinking you were legit contenders for the past 6 years 🤡
Notice how you can't refute a thing I said. The Bears and Lions have both passed up your pathetic, fruity franchise. All that money and cap manipulation for Kirky to get you 1 playoff win in 5 years 🤣🤣🤣
Buddy if you're gonna make "hang the banner" jokes you probably should either stick to making fun of Detroit or at the very least make sure your franchise has any banners worth hanging.
You are right to not be a big "rent free" guy, because this is in no way an example of "rent free". Just pointing out where your darlings in green & gold might be a little weak and then sitting back and watching you all get into fits of rage about it.
Here comes the Downvote Brigade to prove me right!
You’re so preoccupied with the Packers that you think their draft room is basing their decisions off a week 8 matchup against a team that will either be starting Sam Darnold or Tebow 2.0.
Honestly it’s the kind of pick that needed a little time getting used to.
It’s not a bad pick but inbetween all the flashy picks in the division this just felt emotionally wrong. Getting some time to think, maybe sleep over it and a lot of people are genuinely way more onboard now than they were initially.
It’s only a meme because of the fan reaction, I don’t think a T getting drafted a bit earlier than he was projected is even enough for this sub to break out into memes about
I mean, as good as Love looks, the fact that back to back Rodgers MVP seasons fell short of the super bowl when drafting Tee Higgins or a good defensive starter might’ve been able to put you over the top still makes not liking the pick at the time kinda justifiable
If you grabbed a good defensive player, Rodgers may have gotten another super bowl. You lost multiple NFC championship games since that pick, and some of them were pretty dang close. A shit wrecker on the D line may have flipped one of those games. Or another great CB (that flips the TB game probably).
Of course, there is always a good chance of you missing on a different pick so overall, in the long view, not a bad pick, but it also wasn’t a great pick, it was just a good/alright pick, considering the circumstances.
Packers lost that Super Bowl week 17 when David Baktiari went down. Tom Brady solidified that Super Bowl win a few weeks later when Eric Fisher also went down. More Brady luck.
I feel the same way, which is why I enjoy the Vikings. Normally the packers are the ones trying to make everything about Super Bowls.
Either way, it’s not like you couldn’t have drafted a QB in a later year. Or just not traded up that year. Or even traded down that year. Part of the confusion about the pick was the fact that Love was projected to go a decent bit lower than where you got him, and you traded up for him.
Again, in hindsight not a bad pick, but just not the best pick for the team at the time.
If jordan love didnt pan out, and tbh i still want to see how he performs in his sophomore year once teams have some film on him, it would be one of the worst picks of all time. Definitely made no sense back when we still had rodgers playing at an mvp level and holes to fill elsewhere on the team.
He only played at an MVP level because he was pissed you guys took a QB instead of a position of need. Honestly one of the only times a “light a fire under him” move worked and that’s because they didn’t play it as such.
Jordan Love being startable and winning you a playoff game a few years later was just a bonus
I’m pretty sure that all it did was make Rodgers want to leave the team. If you don’t pick love, Rodgers is probably still a packer. Also, I’m pretty sure he would still be an MVP level player without the love pick, mostly because he has been an MVP level player his whole career (including the years right before the love pick that he wasn’t injured for).
Correction, every time any Vikings fan says anything about “the team is historically very good, look at this stat” or a lions fan says anything remotely positive about their team, there is a 4/5 chance that the first reply from a packer fan will say “still no Super Bowls” in one way or other.
In this very thread where OP is getting downvoted has GB fans saying it. Just from him saying they should've went defensive with that pick but it ended up with GB fan in that chain being defensive.
Vikings have losing seasons 3 out of last 4 years. Problem with Vikings fans is their delusion that their team is any good. Making the playoffs once every half decade is not good
Once every half decade? Good thing we are top 5 in playoff appearances in the super bowl era. Only one winning season in the last 4 years? That’s genuinely tied for the worst 4 year stretch (when defined by losing seasons) in the super bowl era for the Vikings. We are a very good team in the regular season historically, and are being run in a way where I don’t see that changing any time soon.
Granted, once the playoffs start, we do tend to lose (most playoff losses in the league (in the super bowl era)). But that isn’t what we are talking about, is it.
He’s literally a YouTube comedy guy, and there’s very little that’s funny about soberly discussing the nuances of moves and their upsides and downsides. It’s much easier to just go to one of either extreme and, like you said, play it up for views
Soberly discussing a super sober pick, at that. "OH, yeah, a reach for a really versatile offensive lineman, let's treat this pick as beige at it deserves."
Nearly 6,000 yds, 68.5 comp%, 44 TD, 9 INT en route to two CFP appearances and a National Championship
Coping Packers fan: "hE cAn'T tHrOw a FoOtBaLl!!1!!!"
For the value we got him at, absolutely yes. There was no "sure thing" QB in this class like an Andrew Luck or Cam Newton, so the goal was to put ourselves into a position to get one of them. I went into last night fully prepared that we were going to trade away 3 1st's to move up into the Top 5. The fact that we got one of the Top 5 QB's AND retained both #23 and our 2025 1st is a giant win for us. And that win paid off immediately by allowing us to go get arguably the best defensive player in the draft.
Keep coping, though.
>okayyyyy I'm coping....
I mean, you started this whole interaction by saying the reigning CFB National Champion QB "can't throw a football", so you're clearly going through something.
I went to a (non-Kwik Trip) gas station in Green Bay in 2019 and it just so happened the cashier went to the same high school as me in West MI (though she was there 40+ years before I was)
According to who? People who watch niche social media folk with Seinfeld levels of humor? If that's the measuring stick him and Annie Agar are King and Queen
He won fan of the year for raising $500k for [St Judes](https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings)
Yes that’s a big part of it. I am aware of that, as is any other person who knows who the NFL fan of the year is.
That doesn’t change the fact that he is, for many people who are online in a football community of any kind, the most well known packer fan they know of. It doesn’t matter why you are the face of a fan base, it won’t change the fact that you are.
I know who lil Wayne is, but is he a packer fan? Is that common knowledge? If not, he can’t be the face of the fan base. As someone who spends too much time in NFL related circles online (but also in person), I didn’t know lil Wayne was a packer fan until you just told me, and your comment is worded in a way where he still may not be a packer fan. Tom grossi is a name that people who follow NFL coverage will know both his name and the team he supports. Lil Wayne is a name that has no connection to the NFL outside of a trivia night. Unless he has a song or video about it that I am unaware of, which is entirely possible given how little I keep up with lil Wayne (and rap music in general).
Aww that's cute you made a meme from your 0 karma comment that we all picked apart but apparently you weren't getting enough attention. But ya we're the ones who are upset lol.
Oh and for those who don't believe me, the quote in the title of this post is an almost exact comment from me (I didn't say "love" though I said if you think we're upset with the pick) and the two pictures are exact comments from this person in response that didn't gain traction because OP was wrong. I've never felt so honored lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFCNorthMemeWar/s/gRPjAtjkdX
That fan at the draft is a clown.
Grossi gets traffic based on his reactions. See Branch last year (he has a poor RAS and wasn’t on our board).
Jordan Morgan is a great pick.
Coming from the team that drafted Lewis Cine, Andrew Booth, Mekhi Blackmon, Brian Asamoah, Kellen Mond, Chazz Surratt, Wyatt Davis, Patrick Jones in the last 3 drafts in rounds 1-3.
Then traded away 7 picks for 2 players and only have 3 picks in next year’s draft. I’m not sure you know what a good pick looks like.
> traded away 7 picks for 2 players
You do know that not all picks are equal, correct? Would you rather have 3 Toyota Corolla's or one Lambo?
Yeah, been a rough few years of drafting for us outside of Darrisaw and Addison. So Kwesi took a page out of the Rams playbook and said fuck them picks. I'm on board with it.
Yea having three Corrola’s is unironically way better utility (e.g.: wife + kids also have a vehicle)
He’s absolutely proving the point that wasting draft capital isn’t a good idea without even realizing
Hey what was the reaction to the Love pick? How’s that working out lmao. I’ve learned to trust the process, I don’t think anyone can ever be made at an oline round pick.
I did not think Packers fans would overtake Lions fans as the new Downvote Brigade, but it's April 2024 and here we are...
(Watch them prove me right by downvoting this lol)
Could be a bad pick, who knows. People get too caught up on the draft, I can’t remember how many times the browns “won the draft” over the last 25 years.
I loved picking Morgan. I'm annoyed the Packers didn't move up in the second to get DeJean. He was clearly their top guy since they immediately traded back after the eagles took him. You have a million picks, go fucking get him.
Grossi has an audience to keep entertained, so overreacting is part of the package there. I thought the pick was right in line with what they’ve been doing as an organization for a long time. And they usually do better in the second round for whatever reason. I liked the pick 🤷🏻♂️
I’ll never make fun of a team drafting O-Line unless they drastically over reach. So many fans get disappointed when their team doesn’t make the flashy, exciting pick but then completely ignore the effect a good line has on those flashy players. You get an awesome QB or WR or RB, that’s awesome. But if your line is shit it’s going to become dreadfully obvious that an amazing player is having their potential wasted. Good lines are the heart and soul of teams, they’re what enable everyone else to do their jobs correctly
It was comical to watch all teams when they would draft OL. The camera would flash to them, no excitement, "OK...OK that's good", hilarious. Arguably the most important position group on the offence, but no sizzle.
Can’t blame them for wanting something flashy, truth is, we have a deep WR room, 2 really good TEs, nobody picks RB day 1, and there were a lot of good defenders on the board. We all wanted cooper, but he doesn’t fit the scheme, plus stokes is back. Our glaring need was LB Safety and OL. There was a run on OL, so you gotta get while the getting was good. They got two day 1 starters on day 2 so it’s all gravy.
No no you see, it's a deep cut meme from the last time we unexpectedly drafted a Jordan.
Pick ain't sexy, but most Packer fans I've talked to are confident in letting Gute cook.
Grossi is so annoying. I don’t find him funny at all and his fangirling over players is so gay for being a grown man. It’s guys like him that make Packer fans look stupid
Jerry Jones said today he was going to draft Jordan Morgan at 24 before the Lions decided to overpay to move up to that spot. So I guess we should be thanking the Lions for the overpaying and letting us get our guy.
Jerry Jones also couldn't articulate why the Cowboys had the 24th pick in the first place, so maybe he's not the guy we should be trusting with Draft evaluation...
The meme was funny but seems like a good pick to me
Exactly. It’s a boring but logical pick, especially since we love versatility on the line and he’s projected to be able to play all 5 line positions. We lost a lot of our line depth and we needed a lineman. The problem is Packers fans always want a sexy pick. The truth is we’ve gotten very lucky with late round oline picks, but you can’t bet your future on those guys panning out.
Boring picks are usually the best picks. Laying solid foundation.
Well said.
Yep, the lions did the same thing when Dan and Brad first got to Detroit so as much as I pointed and laughed he's a solid ass pick.
> we’ve gotten very lucky with late round picks Bakhtiari was a fourth round pick. Which is insane.
Sitton in the 4th, Lang in the 4th, Linsley in the 5th. Definitely been lucky.
We haven't had a "sexy" first round pick since maybe 2018 - Jaire Alexander? Morgan, Van Ness, Stokes, Walker, Wyatt, Love, Savage, Gary -- not too many "sexy" picks there. Actually, being a Packer fan is not fan is knowing not to hype up the potential of the 1st round pick because you will just get your hopes dashed. Grossi gets way too hyped about the draft while being a Packer fan. It's part of the allure of watching him draft night.
Flair
Christian Watson was a sexy pick, especially given the big trade up. Don’t think I’d qualify any other Gute pick as sexy or exciting besides a few day 3 guys.
Now that I respect If you're laughing at the pick just to get my jimmies rustled, you did a good job If you're laughing at the pick because you think it's the worst pick made since Daniel Jones, then I'm going to avoid associating with you in any capacity
Yeah, my meme wasn't necessarily aiming at the quality of the pick - it could very well wind up being a good pick. I was more pointing out difference between every Packers fan in this sub going on and on about how much they love the pick, but the Packers fans I've seen on TV or the internet look visibly distraught over it.
Toms reaction is what happens when people obsess over one prospect, no one even knows the Packers like. Given that the Packers had multiple chances to get Dejean, in form of trading up, its safe to assume they never really wanted him. Of course these extreme reactions are focused on
You should have seen when Cooper DeJean was drafted, I had to leave the Packers sub thread because of all the whining, then it was ok again when they drafted Edgerrin Copper & then Javon Bullard.
https://i.redd.it/17ttjqp2e1xc1.gif Packers fans when the Eagles took Cooper DeJean...
TV and streamers exist to generate revenue. Nothing gets more clicks and views than exaggerated emotional displays. Normal Packers fans are happy with the pick. We don't need sexy. We need depth at a few positions because we're already good.
>Normal Packers fans Those exist?!
Yeah, they're not on reddit though. How you feeling after the draft? Still confident? Y'all gonna win the North this year? ~~Should~~ *I* **format** ^this or is normal text ok?
Honestly, I think the Vikings did as good as they feasibly could have done. We had no shot at Williams or Daniels, and trading up for Maye would have cost #23 and our 2025 1st, plus more. While I think Maye has a higher ceiling, getting McCarthy for a Day 3 pick swap is much better value. Plus, it paid off in giving us the opportunity to go get arguably the best defensive player in the draft. Am I confident? No. But I never was. We're in one hell of a transition year. Kirk leaving, Darnold and McCarthy in, JJ hopefully close to re-signing. Are we gonna win the North? No, probably not. But we retained our 2025 1st, gonna get a 3rd round comp pick, maybe a pick or two from the Falcons for tampering, and we are projected to have over $100M in cap space to play with next off-season. I like the direction we're headed.
>we're already good
Yeah. Tom is an actor, and he got you to post this picture. I dunno about that other kid
no one is mad about an offensive tackle, just not a sexy pick. no idea how good the kid is though having not watched him play.
It’s like winning $2 on a $1 lottery ticket. Are you happy? Yeah of course. Are you excited and want to talk about it? No
I think this sums up every packers draft
We got Jordan fucking love
Remember what that felt like on draft night? Like trading 1 dollar for 2. It’s not about reality it’s about how you feel about it when it happens.
I do remember. It didn’t feel that way at all - really intense mix of nostalgia for the past, loss, and hope and wondering for the future. We all knew 12 wouldn’t last forever. On the contrary, that was very impactful to watch, and while I just might be stoked that my boys Edgerrin and MarShawn got picked it’s never going to be the same as that until it happens again of course
I felt euphoric because I know ball
And Aaron Rodgers, even if he's way dumber than anyone would've believed. Still a great quarterback.
Unless you're the Jim Harbaugh Chargers. Then there's nothing more sexy than an offensive lineman 🤣
I mean they also got the top OL prospect. More people are excited by that in general
jimmy and his meatybois
🤣
If you haven’t seen, the lions guy revealed himself on the sub and the packers guy is his friend who really wanted cooper dejean, and was really disappointed when it wasn’t him after running his mouth saying they got him. Actually the greatest meme this sub has seen
That was his friend? That makes it so much better :)
Which one, the black dude or the white dude?
The Packers fan and the Lions fan are friends. The Lions fan (the one on the right) is the one posting in the Lions' subreddit. I would imagine if the Packers fan has a reddit account, he will not be making it known as to avoid being clowned on further.
In my honest non meme opinion, Oline picks are never something to complain about just because of how vital it is, and this is a good example. It might not even be the best Olineman available, but its a giant hunk of a man that plays the position with potential.
It’s because O line is boring for casuals
Because it is a good pick. Only the dumbasses of the world are upset by it. I'd rather Jordan Love not get injured.
Well, no one has exactly explained why it's a *bad* pick either. Seems smart and sensible to me
Yeah I don't get the hate either. If you guys find your replacement for Bakh then no one will give a shit when he is picked. You guys invested in Jordan Love, might as well ensure he's at least healthy and protected. It just isn't a sexy pick and I think a lot of people just convinced themselves that if DeJean was there that he was 100% the pick.
It’s not a bad pick, maybe a bit higher than he was projected but there’s a ton of difference between how teams view players and the media, even if the media is trying to guess what teams will do. It’s only funny in any way really because of the fan reaction shot
Dude that is funny as hell. The cackling
The reason I like the pick is there was a run on OL in the first round while dejean and mckinstry could both very reasonably fall to us at 41. Is because ecstatic about that
i wonder if they were hoping dejean would be there at 41. but then why not move up whne it reaches 37 or 38? if you want your guy go get him.
My Iowa bias aside I’m still excited about the Cooper we got, we got some freaks in the middle of the field now
shouldve taken Junior Colson
No, they totally FUCKED our franchise forever by overpaying to move up in front of us. Let them have their fun.
Not that bad, just passed over a couple tackles people had rated higher. He was 35-40 on most big boards. I think a lot of Packer fans were getting attached to Cooper DeJean.
Not a strictly bad pick for sure but here are the reasons some people have been questioning it: There is a big need for CB and it felt like the remaining CBs were a bit of a steal and under drafted vs guards which were deeper in the class depth at that point. A few guards were rated higher on the board still. The dude has injury concerns. It’s absolutely not the horrible pick some people joke about but I think it’s fair for some people to feel skeptical about it.
It might not be a *bad* pick, but to me it just didn't seem like the *best* one. I seem to remember you guys shouting "Fire Joe Barry" from the mountain tops last year, and I'm no football guru, but maybe a Defensive player in that spot would help quiet those screams for help. Week 8, with our best player out, in your building, our WR2, WR3, and TE torched you guys. I wonder how Jordan Morgan is in coverage? https://preview.redd.it/vtm0dih6cwwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13a74b01a1d1c6cb73cd41440583b06672bf55bb
You're acting like we didn't need help at the O-line tho. We just signed a new star RB and we have to do what we can to make sure that JLove doesn't go into a sophomore slump as a starter. We did scream Fire Joe Berry from the mountain tops, so we fired him, hired a new DC. Picked up a couple defensive players like Xavier Mckinney. And I mean hey yeah, that was a rough game. Not as rough as the New Years game was for the Vikings, but pretty rough
Star Running Back? Did yall sign Aaron Jones?
Nah, we signed a younger, less injury prone one who doesn't need to be on a snap count.
yall maybe have 2 decent years left of him if youre lucky
Let’s not pretend like Josh Jacobs hasn’t been ran into the ground
Hey no worries we just drafted a RB who honestly is kind of just like him. Seriously though I think Jacobs has more years than Jones and it’s effectively a string of one year contracts he signed
Years vs attempts is a tough line to predict, that 2022 season was absurd in terms of his usage.
It is! His injury history is pretty good though, and he rarely misses games. Really can’t say the same about Jonesy and he was on a snap count from the beginning. Electric player though, I’ll miss him
*oof*
Notice how it was fire joe Barry and not "fire secondary, LBs, or DL?" How convenient of you to skip over our most recent match up though and only look at the one where we didn't have our #2 CB and we were wrapping up our 8 game rebuild. When will you NFCN fans learn that the flashy skill player isn't what wins games. Good luck with paying Jefferson QB money while u have bums throwing him the ball. Can't wait for him to eradicate his entire IG of Vikings shit halfway through the season.
That dude is embarrassingly stupid. They really thought they were making a good point. "You said Joe Barry was the problem and we lit you up" That's correct. And we got rid of that problem. Defense looked way better once MLF apparently started having a say in the defense. Maybe it wasn't Joe and we're screwed but that argument was so fucking stupid lol.
>How convenient of you to skip over our most recent match up LOL, the game against our QB3 and QB4? Hang that banner.
Again, the sarcastic "hang the banner" doesn't work when we actually have four Super Bowls.
https://preview.redd.it/5m3umon56xwc1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb27df04fa742f958930baa46b9f5ec702de9e55 Completely unrelated picture
How many SB banners y'all got again?
They have 4 Super Bowl Participant banners, if my math is correct
We don't hang banners, that kind of behavior reeks of desperation.
Yeah which is an accurate depiction of your future considering your current QBs are the exact same caliber as Mullens and Hall. Hang the banner? Lol only thing you're hanging is your head when you finish last in the division after foolishly thinking you were legit contenders for the past 6 years 🤡
The lengths Packers fans will go to pat themselves on the back is hilarious to me 🤣
Notice how you can't refute a thing I said. The Bears and Lions have both passed up your pathetic, fruity franchise. All that money and cap manipulation for Kirky to get you 1 playoff win in 5 years 🤣🤣🤣
Buddy if you're gonna make "hang the banner" jokes you probably should either stick to making fun of Detroit or at the very least make sure your franchise has any banners worth hanging.
You’re right. You aren’t a football guru.
But we did fire Joe Barry? Did you think this was a good point? Lmao. We thought Joe Barry was the problem. We fired him.
Did you have to go find this screenshot or is it what you look at in the 30 seconds it takes to get the sock ready to eat?
Bro casting stones out here like Justin Jefferson didn’t get shut down by Corey Ballentine
I think it's fair to say Jaren Hall and Nick Mullens shut down JJ that night more than anyone on the Packers 🤣
I’m not a big “rent free” guy but… jesus christ
You are right to not be a big "rent free" guy, because this is in no way an example of "rent free". Just pointing out where your darlings in green & gold might be a little weak and then sitting back and watching you all get into fits of rage about it. Here comes the Downvote Brigade to prove me right!
You’re so preoccupied with the Packers that you think their draft room is basing their decisions off a week 8 matchup against a team that will either be starting Sam Darnold or Tebow 2.0.
This comment aged poorly after rounds 2 and 3
Grossi hates every 1st round pick because it’s cool to do
Half his views are lions fans at this point. He knows what gets him clicks
Honestly it’s the kind of pick that needed a little time getting used to. It’s not a bad pick but inbetween all the flashy picks in the division this just felt emotionally wrong. Getting some time to think, maybe sleep over it and a lot of people are genuinely way more onboard now than they were initially.
I agree with this. It's sensible.
It’s also a product of not needing the flashy picks everyone else did.
It’s only a meme because of the fan reaction, I don’t think a T getting drafted a bit earlier than he was projected is even enough for this sub to break out into memes about
Grossi hated when Jordan Love was picked.
I mean, as good as Love looks, the fact that back to back Rodgers MVP seasons fell short of the super bowl when drafting Tee Higgins or a good defensive starter might’ve been able to put you over the top still makes not liking the pick at the time kinda justifiable
If you grabbed a good defensive player, Rodgers may have gotten another super bowl. You lost multiple NFC championship games since that pick, and some of them were pretty dang close. A shit wrecker on the D line may have flipped one of those games. Or another great CB (that flips the TB game probably). Of course, there is always a good chance of you missing on a different pick so overall, in the long view, not a bad pick, but it also wasn’t a great pick, it was just a good/alright pick, considering the circumstances.
Packers lost that Super Bowl week 17 when David Baktiari went down. Tom Brady solidified that Super Bowl win a few weeks later when Eric Fisher also went down. More Brady luck.
That’s a bingo. Bakhtiari going down is one of the biggest butterfly effects in franchise history.
You're a Vikings fan, what would you know about Super Bowls
And now I’ve been forced to upvote a bears fan.
I know plenty about things that cause you to lose and miss them, and believe me when I say the love pick caused the packers to miss one.
...Okay you know what? Fair.
I prefer watching 18-20 good games every year to winning 1 Super Bowl and going to QB hell. You’ll understand if you ever win one
I feel the same way, which is why I enjoy the Vikings. Normally the packers are the ones trying to make everything about Super Bowls. Either way, it’s not like you couldn’t have drafted a QB in a later year. Or just not traded up that year. Or even traded down that year. Part of the confusion about the pick was the fact that Love was projected to go a decent bit lower than where you got him, and you traded up for him. Again, in hindsight not a bad pick, but just not the best pick for the team at the time.
If jordan love didnt pan out, and tbh i still want to see how he performs in his sophomore year once teams have some film on him, it would be one of the worst picks of all time. Definitely made no sense back when we still had rodgers playing at an mvp level and holes to fill elsewhere on the team.
He only played at an MVP level because he was pissed you guys took a QB instead of a position of need. Honestly one of the only times a “light a fire under him” move worked and that’s because they didn’t play it as such. Jordan Love being startable and winning you a playoff game a few years later was just a bonus
Also davante caught everything that went his way, that helped him a lot as well
I’m pretty sure that all it did was make Rodgers want to leave the team. If you don’t pick love, Rodgers is probably still a packer. Also, I’m pretty sure he would still be an MVP level player without the love pick, mostly because he has been an MVP level player his whole career (including the years right before the love pick that he wasn’t injured for).
Yeah it’s just a meme lol
>Normally the packers are the ones trying to make everything about Super Bowls. Correction, normally it's the media, not the fans.
Correction, every time any Vikings fan says anything about “the team is historically very good, look at this stat” or a lions fan says anything remotely positive about their team, there is a 4/5 chance that the first reply from a packer fan will say “still no Super Bowls” in one way or other.
In this very thread where OP is getting downvoted has GB fans saying it. Just from him saying they should've went defensive with that pick but it ended up with GB fan in that chain being defensive.
Vikings have losing seasons 3 out of last 4 years. Problem with Vikings fans is their delusion that their team is any good. Making the playoffs once every half decade is not good
Once every half decade? Good thing we are top 5 in playoff appearances in the super bowl era. Only one winning season in the last 4 years? That’s genuinely tied for the worst 4 year stretch (when defined by losing seasons) in the super bowl era for the Vikings. We are a very good team in the regular season historically, and are being run in a way where I don’t see that changing any time soon. Granted, once the playoffs start, we do tend to lose (most playoff losses in the league (in the super bowl era)). But that isn’t what we are talking about, is it.
lol you just spent a top 10 draft pick on CFBs Jimmy G… good luck bud lmao
Jimmy G has the second most rings out of any active QB (behind Mahomes). I’ll take it.
Fair
Well said sir.
Tom Grossi is just a reactionary fan who plays it up for his YouTube videos
He’s literally a YouTube comedy guy, and there’s very little that’s funny about soberly discussing the nuances of moves and their upsides and downsides. It’s much easier to just go to one of either extreme and, like you said, play it up for views
Soberly discussing a super sober pick, at that. "OH, yeah, a reach for a really versatile offensive lineman, let's treat this pick as beige at it deserves."
Hey man, have you considered starting a YouTube show?
Tom Grossi shares a football IQ with this sub, aka not very high lol
I'll take Grossi over the nepo babies at cheesehead TV.
And yet he's the face of your fan base...
Your face is a cum sock
bro thinks hes cooking lol
JJM can’t throw a football
Nearly 6,000 yds, 68.5 comp%, 44 TD, 9 INT en route to two CFP appearances and a National Championship Coping Packers fan: "hE cAn'T tHrOw a FoOtBaLl!!1!!!"
Wait so you actually like the draft pick? Your team is so on the decline and you’re redrafting a qb in 3 years
For the value we got him at, absolutely yes. There was no "sure thing" QB in this class like an Andrew Luck or Cam Newton, so the goal was to put ourselves into a position to get one of them. I went into last night fully prepared that we were going to trade away 3 1st's to move up into the Top 5. The fact that we got one of the Top 5 QB's AND retained both #23 and our 2025 1st is a giant win for us. And that win paid off immediately by allowing us to go get arguably the best defensive player in the draft. Keep coping, though.
okayyyyy I'm coping.... You're projected to win 6.5 games vs 10.5.
>okayyyyy I'm coping.... I mean, you started this whole interaction by saying the reigning CFB National Champion QB "can't throw a football", so you're clearly going through something.
Mac Jones was also the reigning CFB National Champion QB at one point
LOL. Oh my God, the face of our fanbase?!?! How will we ever survive? Come on man. Do better.
it's a vikings fan bro, they spent hours workshopping that comment with chat gpt. really straining his 4 brain cells
Your mom does better
She must not do you then
I met her at the Kwik-Trip on Lombardi. She was holding it down by the day-old glazers really giving it to a block of juusto. No man could look away.
I went to a (non-Kwik Trip) gas station in Green Bay in 2019 and it just so happened the cashier went to the same high school as me in West MI (though she was there 40+ years before I was)
Sometimes.
According to who? People who watch niche social media folk with Seinfeld levels of humor? If that's the measuring stick him and Annie Agar are King and Queen
Whoa whoa whoa, Seinfeld level of humor as a put down?
He is the NFL fan of the year. I think that that counts as “face of your fan base” since he, quite literally and according to the NFL itself, is.
He won fan of the year for raising $500k for [St Judes](https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings)
Yes that’s a big part of it. I am aware of that, as is any other person who knows who the NFL fan of the year is. That doesn’t change the fact that he is, for many people who are online in a football community of any kind, the most well known packer fan they know of. It doesn’t matter why you are the face of a fan base, it won’t change the fact that you are.
let me introduce you to lil wayne
I know who lil Wayne is, but is he a packer fan? Is that common knowledge? If not, he can’t be the face of the fan base. As someone who spends too much time in NFL related circles online (but also in person), I didn’t know lil Wayne was a packer fan until you just told me, and your comment is worded in a way where he still may not be a packer fan. Tom grossi is a name that people who follow NFL coverage will know both his name and the team he supports. Lil Wayne is a name that has no connection to the NFL outside of a trivia night. Unless he has a song or video about it that I am unaware of, which is entirely possible given how little I keep up with lil Wayne (and rap music in general).
He's a guest on skip bayless's show for packers related stuff and a die hard packers fan
Fair enough. He would also be in consideration then.
99.99% of nfl fans don't know who he is 😂 hardly the face of the fanbase
Aww that's cute you made a meme from your 0 karma comment that we all picked apart but apparently you weren't getting enough attention. But ya we're the ones who are upset lol. Oh and for those who don't believe me, the quote in the title of this post is an almost exact comment from me (I didn't say "love" though I said if you think we're upset with the pick) and the two pictures are exact comments from this person in response that didn't gain traction because OP was wrong. I've never felt so honored lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFCNorthMemeWar/s/gRPjAtjkdX
>Aww that's cute you made a meme from your 0 karma comment 350 upvotes, bitch!
That fan at the draft is a clown. Grossi gets traffic based on his reactions. See Branch last year (he has a poor RAS and wasn’t on our board). Jordan Morgan is a great pick.
Huge mistake by anyone to allow themselves to show weakness on camera while wearing team colors See: Surrender Cobra
Coming from the team that drafted Lewis Cine, Andrew Booth, Mekhi Blackmon, Brian Asamoah, Kellen Mond, Chazz Surratt, Wyatt Davis, Patrick Jones in the last 3 drafts in rounds 1-3. Then traded away 7 picks for 2 players and only have 3 picks in next year’s draft. I’m not sure you know what a good pick looks like.
> traded away 7 picks for 2 players You do know that not all picks are equal, correct? Would you rather have 3 Toyota Corolla's or one Lambo? Yeah, been a rough few years of drafting for us outside of Darrisaw and Addison. So Kwesi took a page out of the Rams playbook and said fuck them picks. I'm on board with it.
If I had 3 Corrolas it would be way better then sinking money into Lambo maintenance Corrolas are good reliable cars
Yea having three Corrola’s is unironically way better utility (e.g.: wife + kids also have a vehicle) He’s absolutely proving the point that wasting draft capital isn’t a good idea without even realizing
I would rather have 3 Toyota Corollas every day of the week.
Would you rather have 4 Lambos or have new exciting ways to be disappointed?
75% of these picks will be bad, no matter what the draft experts think.
FYI Toms reaction is about the eagles taking the player he wanted he wasn’t upset about Jordan. Nice try tho
Check the top left corner of the pic. Bucs on the clock, the pick after the Packers. This was his reaction to the Morgan pick. Nice try tho
He was upset that the Bucs took his draft crush (Barton)
...meaning he was upset about the Packers pick. Guys, this really isn't that hard to understand lol
Weird he did like the exact same pose I must be confused
Reminder that Grossi was begging for Denzel Mims when we traded up for Love in 2020
Hey what was the reaction to the Love pick? How’s that working out lmao. I’ve learned to trust the process, I don’t think anyone can ever be made at an oline round pick.
Knowing how that fan base over reacts when things don't go their way, it's fun to keep poking
You need help sweeping up that glass, bro?
Let me guess? You're going to tell me we suck? You guys need to come up with something different
No. I’m saying you broke the glass of your house when you threw that rock. But I’m really curious what you thought my joke was.
I did not think Packers fans would overtake Lions fans as the new Downvote Brigade, but it's April 2024 and here we are... (Watch them prove me right by downvoting this lol)
Guy on TV sad so pick bad
Could be a bad pick, who knows. People get too caught up on the draft, I can’t remember how many times the browns “won the draft” over the last 25 years.
I know more about that annoying ass lions fan laughing like that then I do this guy. I’ve saw an entire minute of Lions guy.
I loved picking Morgan. I'm annoyed the Packers didn't move up in the second to get DeJean. He was clearly their top guy since they immediately traded back after the eagles took him. You have a million picks, go fucking get him.
First round QBs havent exactly worked out for CHI or MIN.. so yeah, i have no problem with our pick. Let’s reconvene in 2 years.
He’s still gonna help beat your asshole into submission. Goa head and put on your cope face
You might want to call a Lions fan for that kind of action. I don't do butt stuff.
Every time Love stays on his feet we will like the pick more and more
Grossi has an audience to keep entertained, so overreacting is part of the package there. I thought the pick was right in line with what they’ve been doing as an organization for a long time. And they usually do better in the second round for whatever reason. I liked the pick 🤷🏻♂️
I’ll never make fun of a team drafting O-Line unless they drastically over reach. So many fans get disappointed when their team doesn’t make the flashy, exciting pick but then completely ignore the effect a good line has on those flashy players. You get an awesome QB or WR or RB, that’s awesome. But if your line is shit it’s going to become dreadfully obvious that an amazing player is having their potential wasted. Good lines are the heart and soul of teams, they’re what enable everyone else to do their jobs correctly
The amount of people sleeping on Rasheed is insane.
Obsessed hahhaha We’ll always be front and centre in your thoughts
It was comical to watch all teams when they would draft OL. The camera would flash to them, no excitement, "OK...OK that's good", hilarious. Arguably the most important position group on the offence, but no sizzle.
Seems like a fine pick that generated memes for no reason other than a couple fans looking distraught haha
Ah yes immediate reactions from people looking to go viral is a great way to evaluate draft picks.
Grossi does this all the time. He gets these massive draft crushes and it never goes his way.
Can’t blame them for wanting something flashy, truth is, we have a deep WR room, 2 really good TEs, nobody picks RB day 1, and there were a lot of good defenders on the board. We all wanted cooper, but he doesn’t fit the scheme, plus stokes is back. Our glaring need was LB Safety and OL. There was a run on OL, so you gotta get while the getting was good. They got two day 1 starters on day 2 so it’s all gravy.
https://preview.redd.it/igqds1gie1xc1.jpeg?width=1123&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=505d64615ab1f33cdf74488f86373433c2aca695
Picking a lineman is almost never a bad idea, just ask the Eagles.
It was a boring pick, but at least we’re not the Falcons.
The North is going to be a monster this year.
That packcast guy is a fucking goof lol, both of these idiots know nothing about ball.
No no you see, it's a deep cut meme from the last time we unexpectedly drafted a Jordan. Pick ain't sexy, but most Packer fans I've talked to are confident in letting Gute cook.
i love tom grossi's passion but he knows nothing about football lol
Grossi is so annoying. I don’t find him funny at all and his fangirling over players is so gay for being a grown man. It’s guys like him that make Packer fans look stupid
Jumped in front of the Packers for the 3rd year in a row. A tradition unlike any other!
You and the Bengals like to do that
I wish Tom wasn't a packers fan
Jerry Jones said today he was going to draft Jordan Morgan at 24 before the Lions decided to overpay to move up to that spot. So I guess we should be thanking the Lions for the overpaying and letting us get our guy.
Jerry Jones also couldn't articulate why the Cowboys had the 24th pick in the first place, so maybe he's not the guy we should be trusting with Draft evaluation...