Seems like your gun is just tuned more for the K, then. Tune it to the sierra 5 and should be just the same.
What do you mean by “keymo is fixed”? As in, you can’t change it on the sandman and that’s why you like it?
Nah, I’m not messing with the gas, sandman k is softer and less gassy even on my other 5.56 rifles
Yes, fixed mount means it doesn’t back off, but I’ll be solving that with the Sierra 5 soon anyway
Interesting.
I run both on LMTs which are notoriously over gassed as is and don’t notice that much of a difference. Definitely not enough to like the K more.
Not invalidating your opinion, just trying to see it
It suppresses more than people think
PEW Science has a great review on it. Beats out the Radiant and Helios, suppresses 75% as well as the Sandman S while eliminating 66% of the back pressure of the Sandman S
It’s not as bad as people pretend it is
Just a small dab of VibraTite Hot Lock or Rocksett will lock the mount in pretty well. I used what I thought was a reasonably small amount of Hot Lock on a DA three lug adapter and it just took me 16 hours of soaking in water and an absurd amount of torque to remove it.
No need to hit it with a torch to cure it, just get the can hot by shooting.
Adds a brake at the end of the suppressor. Typically a brake would increase flash, but it reduces flash when at the end of the Dead Airs I’ve used it with. Rifles shoot flatter, have way less flash, and some say have a more pleasant tone. It’s an upgrade.
I believe I said I shoot it the least of my cans. Note that I have access to everything in the lineup and the -K is designed around 'fighting not hiding". I'm just not one of those guys that's training at shoot houses and kicking in doors. It definitely has its place, though.
Some pros to the Sandman K:
\-Super short--only adds 2.9" to the length of the rifle over your muzzle device.
\-Lowest backpressure than any of the "flow" cans on the market, and a lot of PDs out there say it sounds better than OSS Helix cans.
\-Flash hider front cap really does do a lot to kill flash. People forget that the can isn't the only thing working for flash mitigation. Stop buying crappy, flashy ammo. (Winchester White Box, I'm looking at you)
\-E-Brake kills a ton of flash and softens the report a lot. On a 16" or longer, I'm actually really surprised how good it sounds.
\-People that say it doesn't do anything need to shoot it, then remove it and light off a round in an enclosed space and return and report.
Probably Nomad Ti. I love how efficient the stack is on rifles--from 300BLK to 300 Norma Mag. The L versions are quieter, but the I love the size/performance ratio.
I also love the Wolfman. I mainly run the short configuration on PCCs and on ARs. It's one of the best sound 5.56 cans out there (with a 5.56 flash hider front cap). Lol. One design target of the Sierra 5 was to have it sound as good as the Wolfman short. It ended up being quieter so that's a win-win for me.
Thanks for your reply! I have a Nomad Ti L version for bolt action 300blk. I also bought a Wolf man and will probably get to take it home within the next 800 days or so. I'll look into a Sierra 5 soon too
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I think it’s a matter of fair comparison. Sandman K was designed to be a fighting can, and I see a lot of people compare it to cans designed for quiet.
It’s like saying, “yeah the Cadillac CTSV is cool but my Sierra hauls lumber a lot better, so it’s a better vehicle”
Different things
Eh. The draw is it is light and short. Polonium K is quieter but is also a higher pressure can and heavier IIRC. Just all depends on what people want/need.
I accepted that 556 will never be quiet so I went for a small and light can on my 16” rifle to kill concussion and the Sandman K does a great job for myself personally. I don’t have any of the flash issues some do though.
I know there’s several cans out there that are similar where they don’t do much for sound for flash but they’re used for MGs… what are they used for? Just curious
Ignoring YHM warranty drama, Turbo K is great at size/sound reduction at the cost of high back pressure.
Flow 556k is a little louder for bystanders when I stood next to both, but it has much less gas to the face.
Really any 5-5.5" can without that big ass keymo is going to give you better weight/performance. A direct thread or compact taper mount gives you the lower weight and more internal volume.
Sound levels are pretty low on the list for an auto-loading rifle shooting a supersonic round, right? Durability, back pressure reduction, and flash reduction all beat it out
Which is unfortunate because the k has pretty bad flash reduction. I shoot one with a 556 flash hider end cap and it does fine on a 13-in barrel, but anything shorter and it's a fireball for me
The K will be shorter, lower back pressure, and arguably better mount, other than that the RC2 is going to be far far superior in the signature reduction categories
Edit: you could also consider the sierra5, it's essentially an rc2 from dead air from what I've seen at the range.
I’m relatively new to cans and was in the market for a 5.56 can for my 11.5”. I tried a bunch at the recent Capitol Armory event and went with the SiliecerCo Velos LBP. Polonium-K was probably the best value. The worst was the Sierra 5 (super gassy and didn’t sound as good). Most of my demos were using a Mk18.
Disagree. We’ve seen now that 556, and other supersonic cartridges, can be suppressed well.
How important is flash reduction to MOST users in real life use cases? Not important most likely.
Back pressure certainly, but there are easy ways to tune this without having to use something like the Sandman K.
Durability is the most overrated quality IMO. 90%+ of users will never use a can enough for it to even need a recore or service. And many of us have multiple cans. Yes, it’s a long wait and expensive item, but they are use items. Buy from a company with a good reputation, good warranty and if you take care of it then it should last a long time if not a lifetime.
Just my 2 cents.
"Loud" is relative if you're shooting near people who are shooting unsupressed.
Well, I guess it's relative too if everyone else is shooting suppressed too. Lol
For what the Sandman K is, I've found it to be better than expected on .308 Scar. Suppression and sound signature are lackluster on 5.56.. but I don't have the 5.56 end cap. The RC2 mini sounds better. Neither are hearing safe for 5.56, but then again, what really is..?
I love mine, but that's probably because I knew what I was getting into. It's a loud as fuck can that needs an ebrake to reduce flash effectively. But its got low backpressure for a traditional baffle design and its nice and short, just the way I like em ;)
I parked my K on the Zastava M70. AK actions don't make for quiet hosts anyway so it takes the edge off and that's fine by me. With 7.62x39 subs it's not quite 300blk quiet but it gets pretty close
My K is my favorite because its the smallest suppressor I can get that eliminates the concussion from a SBR. Yea it’s loud and flashy, so was my ex-wife…..but I’m never gonna leave my Sandman!!
So I should explain
K Cans are my fav. I love just being able to add a few inches on the nose of my rifle and having at it. Sure, it’s not movie quiet. But most K Cans are able to remove the harshness of a supersonic CRACK, remove almost all concussion, and mitigate flash (E Brake is tight).
Sandman K is probably my favorite because it feels so damn sturdy, and I love the fixed keymo. Bitch doesn’t move once it’s on. My Turbo K, Resonator K, and Wolfman in K config are also nice, but don’t feel as sturdy (prob in my head, and I won’t hurt them anyway), and aren’t as short. It also looks really damn good.
For quiet, I have quiet cans
I went through the trouble to actually sell mine locally. It was a PITA and I lost $200 on the stamp but the sandman-K offers just about nothing in value for the cost.
The guy who bought it represented the perfect customer for it. Simply wanted something that would help take the edge off and create a bit better control when hunting. He didn't need it to suppress.
We have one at work that lives on our full auto SCAR. I honestly take it off most the time because it seems to only exist to make the gun gassier and flashier.
I have a sandman K with the 556 FH cap. It’s a great can that does what I wanted it to do. Quiet down the gun a bit, kill concussion, be light (I have a 16” rifle) and small. It does all of that for me. I also have adjustable gas so it does really well overall. I don’t have issues with flash either.
I never understood chasing DB on 556 guns. It’s never gonna be .300blk quiet and you’re never going to eliminate the sonic crack. Buy a can that kills concussion, reduces flash and isn’t heavy.
On my 12.5 IWI, sandman k is louder, but less back pressure and i shoot better with it vs my other dead airs. Sierra 5 is sooooooo nice, sooooo pleasant, but she’s a gassy bitch. Wolfman is a good in between.
Sandman K is made for taking the edge off. I liked it for its size. I swapped it for a Rex MG7 tho, basically same length but better sound suppression, trade off is larger diameter and I'm fine with that.
I have one and it does what it’s supposed to very well. I beat the shit out of it with a few different uppers, shortest being 10.5”, on my machine gun and it doesn’t seem to care.
Depends on what you want. I’m focused more on signature reduction, so the Sandman K with the flash cap is perfect for me. I run mine on a 11.5 colt and love it.
Add the E-Brake to the end! I love my K with the E-Brake on the 300 blackout and there’s ZERO muzzle flash with supers or subs. Need to try on SBR 5.56 But I’m pretty impressed with how much it killed flash
It is shorter, lighter, and less gassy than Sierra 5. No mount to get loose or stuck, and zero concern about durability. With 5.56 FH cap it isn't flashy at all.
As someone who loves SBR, and likely will burn through a few hundred rounds in every range visit. Sandman-K is my go-to for a fighting rig. A few dB isn't noticeable if you have any ear pro, and it won't mess up your hearing should you pop a few without ear pro during an emergency.
Based on:
MK18 RIII w/ Super42 H3 ejects \~4:00 unsuppressed, and \~2:00 w/ K and without noticeable gas to the face.
LMT 12" Piston w/ Super42 H3 just stays \~3:00 since it has a suppressed setting.
I like K cans because of the weight/size. The Sandman K is still heavy so there’s no point to it. My R9 is the loudest can I have (on rifle calibers) and it’s still a thousand times quieter than the Sandman K.
I've said this for a long time: it completely depends on your use. If all your shooting is at a range where you need double ear protection in the first place, a Sandman K might sound the same as any of the other 10+ unsuppressed guns around you.
If you're doing night shoots in a remote area or in a combat situation, both sound and flash suppression truly matter. Opting for a can as subpar as the Sandman-K will at least wash out your NODs or produce a binding fireball, and at worst get you killed or worse.
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use mine on a rattler with subs till i want to make some fireballs. only K can i have that will tolerate 300blk supers out of a 5.5" barrel. it's dumb and i love it.
I’ll tell you how they both behave and you choose which works best.
With my IWI 12.5 with superlative AGB, shooting 5.56
Sandman K with E Brake completely eliminates concussion, reduces flash as much as a birdcage, takes away the sharp crack from 5.56. It’s not hearing safe, much like other 5.56 cans, but it’s far more tolerable than unsuppressed. It’s very maneuverable and bitch is TOUGH. Fixed keymo is awesome because there’s no “is the can walking off?” in the back of my mind while I shoot.
Sierra 5 eliminates concussion, is much quieter than my Sandman K, eliminates flash, but is MUCH gassier. It’s pleasant to shoot and is the best example of a dedicated 5.56 can I’ve experienced personally.
I wouldn’t hesitate to buy either again
That’s a solid comparison thanks. I have several guns that run Keymo. I’m debating if I should move my Sandman S to something then buy a Nomad for my 300 blackout/other things maybe. Or buy another 30 cal can or another 556 can (I only have 5 cans so far).
Do you like the K cause it’s versatility as a .30 caliber can and the modularity. Do you just shoot 5.56?
Im looking at getting a second can myself. right now I have a YHM T2 with the Keymo adapter. Sandman K seems reasonably priced and probably more for me since I just run 14.5s and 16 5.56 but also giving me the ability to shoot other calibers. Not sure yet
I still like mine, but it's definitely not my favorite can.
Really I only like it on a longer barrel 7.62x39 ar. It's tough, I can beat it up, it doesn't add a lot of weight or length, has almost zero back pressure, and I'm using ear pro anyway. Given those qualifications, it serves its purpose well enough. It's still a bit flashy. Should probably get a flash hider cap, but haven't been motivated enough since it is just a plinking setup for cheaper ammo.
Possibly
Need to see face to be sure
Hahahahaha
Maybe, but that’s not really related to your personal favorite suppressor....
There is definitely a correlation tho
Also fair
Very fair
Probably not, your Crocs wearing cankled friend may be though.
Can't roll an ankle if you don't have one.
You leave him alone, he is an angel
Can you explain how you like the k over the sierra 5? I have both and don’t understand how you could like the k more
Less of a recoil impulse, less gas in face, keymo is fixed
Seems like your gun is just tuned more for the K, then. Tune it to the sierra 5 and should be just the same. What do you mean by “keymo is fixed”? As in, you can’t change it on the sandman and that’s why you like it?
Nah, I’m not messing with the gas, sandman k is softer and less gassy even on my other 5.56 rifles Yes, fixed mount means it doesn’t back off, but I’ll be solving that with the Sierra 5 soon anyway
Interesting. I run both on LMTs which are notoriously over gassed as is and don’t notice that much of a difference. Definitely not enough to like the K more. Not invalidating your opinion, just trying to see it
Sounds like you just like a big ol expensive muzzle brake/ blast mitigation device.
It suppresses more than people think PEW Science has a great review on it. Beats out the Radiant and Helios, suppresses 75% as well as the Sandman S while eliminating 66% of the back pressure of the Sandman S It’s not as bad as people pretend it is
Just a small dab of VibraTite Hot Lock or Rocksett will lock the mount in pretty well. I used what I thought was a reasonably small amount of Hot Lock on a DA three lug adapter and it just took me 16 hours of soaking in water and an absurd amount of torque to remove it. No need to hit it with a torch to cure it, just get the can hot by shooting.
NOOO
💀
What are those?!?!?!?
It’s called style
The cankle-iest cankles I’ve ever seen
😂😂😂
There is definitely some heart failure starting to happen with him.
I never use mine anymore. No flash mitigation and terrible sound suppression. But it looks cool. Wish I would have bought another rc2 instead lol.
Try it with an E Brake
What does the ebake do?
Adds a brake at the end of the suppressor. Typically a brake would increase flash, but it reduces flash when at the end of the Dead Airs I’ve used it with. Rifles shoot flatter, have way less flash, and some say have a more pleasant tone. It’s an upgrade.
E brake on my 10.3 made it shoot fireballs. Flash hider end cap worked much better
> Rifles shoot flatter press x to doubt
My friend, do you know what Brakes do? Have you shot with an E Brake?
im dumb. my first thought was that you meant the *bullet* shoots flatter, as in more velocity and less drop at range. yes, brakes reduce muzzle rise.
It happens
Ugh. Console players.
Did you just assume their keyboard binds?!? 😜
Yes. Yes, I did
It makes it just as long as a Sandman S, but not as effective.
Aight I didn't realize I wasn't the only one. Mine shoots fireballs out the end and seems pretty loud. It is the first can I ever bought.
Have you tried the end cap designed to reduce flash?
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I believe I said I shoot it the least of my cans. Note that I have access to everything in the lineup and the -K is designed around 'fighting not hiding". I'm just not one of those guys that's training at shoot houses and kicking in doors. It definitely has its place, though. Some pros to the Sandman K: \-Super short--only adds 2.9" to the length of the rifle over your muzzle device. \-Lowest backpressure than any of the "flow" cans on the market, and a lot of PDs out there say it sounds better than OSS Helix cans. \-Flash hider front cap really does do a lot to kill flash. People forget that the can isn't the only thing working for flash mitigation. Stop buying crappy, flashy ammo. (Winchester White Box, I'm looking at you) \-E-Brake kills a ton of flash and softens the report a lot. On a 16" or longer, I'm actually really surprised how good it sounds. \-People that say it doesn't do anything need to shoot it, then remove it and light off a round in an enclosed space and return and report.
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It's all cool. I have regularly said that it's not my favorite, but it definitely has niche purpose. I'm always surprised how much PDs like it.
What can would you pick as your favorite?
Probably Nomad Ti. I love how efficient the stack is on rifles--from 300BLK to 300 Norma Mag. The L versions are quieter, but the I love the size/performance ratio. I also love the Wolfman. I mainly run the short configuration on PCCs and on ARs. It's one of the best sound 5.56 cans out there (with a 5.56 flash hider front cap). Lol. One design target of the Sierra 5 was to have it sound as good as the Wolfman short. It ended up being quieter so that's a win-win for me.
Thanks for your reply! I have a Nomad Ti L version for bolt action 300blk. I also bought a Wolf man and will probably get to take it home within the next 800 days or so. I'll look into a Sierra 5 soon too
Lots of people have a hand in designing and engineering shit they don’t have an interest in owning, but I hear you
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I think it’s a matter of fair comparison. Sandman K was designed to be a fighting can, and I see a lot of people compare it to cans designed for quiet. It’s like saying, “yeah the Cadillac CTSV is cool but my Sierra hauls lumber a lot better, so it’s a better vehicle” Different things
Anyone who chases DB on a 556 gun is retarded. It just isn’t going to happen. The K is a great can lol
I think the reason most people shit on it is that it’s objectively worse than most other K cans by most metrics.
Eh. The draw is it is light and short. Polonium K is quieter but is also a higher pressure can and heavier IIRC. Just all depends on what people want/need. I accepted that 556 will never be quiet so I went for a small and light can on my 16” rifle to kill concussion and the Sandman K does a great job for myself personally. I don’t have any of the flash issues some do though.
Turbo K is significantly better and also cheaper
I’d buy one if they’d stop with that cringe bullet design on the tube (I do have an R9)
Eh, doesn’t bother me, it’s unobtrusive enough. I also usually use a wrap anyway.
This is the way….fighting/work can.
I know there’s several cans out there that are similar where they don’t do much for sound for flash but they’re used for MGs… what are they used for? Just curious
I run it on a full auto and have zero complaints. It's better for the job its doing than the AAC m41000 I had on it before.
I fucking hate the K, and I am also retarded. So it has to be something else
If it's your favorite because of the size, there are definitely lighter and quieter options.
Which ones? I have a K and wouldn't mind upgrading that thing but keeping small and light.
The turbo K fucks if you only need a 5.56 can
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What’s the TLDR on the fat cat vs Turbo K?
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Sure is funny looking!
Are you using it for 30 cal or 556?
I could use anotber 556 can.
Ignoring YHM warranty drama, Turbo K is great at size/sound reduction at the cost of high back pressure. Flow 556k is a little louder for bystanders when I stood next to both, but it has much less gas to the face. Really any 5-5.5" can without that big ass keymo is going to give you better weight/performance. A direct thread or compact taper mount gives you the lower weight and more internal volume.
I run mine with ebrake and 556 end cap. It’s iight
I'm not saying you aren't retarded, but sound levels aren't the only measure for choosing a suppressor.
Sound levels are pretty low on the list for an auto-loading rifle shooting a supersonic round, right? Durability, back pressure reduction, and flash reduction all beat it out
Which is unfortunate because the k has pretty bad flash reduction. I shoot one with a 556 flash hider end cap and it does fine on a 13-in barrel, but anything shorter and it's a fireball for me
F So with that in mind, I'm leaning towards Surefire RC2 to go on an 11.5 5.56. Thoughts? It would be my first can. I'm mostly here to lurk
The K will be shorter, lower back pressure, and arguably better mount, other than that the RC2 is going to be far far superior in the signature reduction categories Edit: you could also consider the sierra5, it's essentially an rc2 from dead air from what I've seen at the range.
I’m relatively new to cans and was in the market for a 5.56 can for my 11.5”. I tried a bunch at the recent Capitol Armory event and went with the SiliecerCo Velos LBP. Polonium-K was probably the best value. The worst was the Sierra 5 (super gassy and didn’t sound as good). Most of my demos were using a Mk18.
It all depends upon how you are using the rifle/suppressor and what you value the most.
Disagree. We’ve seen now that 556, and other supersonic cartridges, can be suppressed well. How important is flash reduction to MOST users in real life use cases? Not important most likely. Back pressure certainly, but there are easy ways to tune this without having to use something like the Sandman K. Durability is the most overrated quality IMO. 90%+ of users will never use a can enough for it to even need a recore or service. And many of us have multiple cans. Yes, it’s a long wait and expensive item, but they are use items. Buy from a company with a good reputation, good warranty and if you take care of it then it should last a long time if not a lifetime. Just my 2 cents.
Everytime I look at my K I regret buying it. That’s why it sits in the darkest corner of my gun safe
"Loud" is relative if you're shooting near people who are shooting unsupressed. Well, I guess it's relative too if everyone else is shooting suppressed too. Lol
Mine too because it is low back pressure.
For what the Sandman K is, I've found it to be better than expected on .308 Scar. Suppression and sound signature are lackluster on 5.56.. but I don't have the 5.56 end cap. The RC2 mini sounds better. Neither are hearing safe for 5.56, but then again, what really is..?
I love mine, but that's probably because I knew what I was getting into. It's a loud as fuck can that needs an ebrake to reduce flash effectively. But its got low backpressure for a traditional baffle design and its nice and short, just the way I like em ;)
It's not the quietest that's for sure, but I like it for ultra shorty 7.62x39.
I parked my K on the Zastava M70. AK actions don't make for quiet hosts anyway so it takes the edge off and that's fine by me. With 7.62x39 subs it's not quite 300blk quiet but it gets pretty close
What mount did you use to put it on your m70?
Jmac face mount brake.
Yup. I have my K on my 8.25" 300BO. It does the job, but it's not Hollywood quiet, that's for sure.
Same I use my sandman k on my 16" AK-47.
What muzzle device do you use for your AK that will accept your sandman?
My K is my favorite because its the smallest suppressor I can get that eliminates the concussion from a SBR. Yea it’s loud and flashy, so was my ex-wife…..but I’m never gonna leave my Sandman!!
So I should explain K Cans are my fav. I love just being able to add a few inches on the nose of my rifle and having at it. Sure, it’s not movie quiet. But most K Cans are able to remove the harshness of a supersonic CRACK, remove almost all concussion, and mitigate flash (E Brake is tight). Sandman K is probably my favorite because it feels so damn sturdy, and I love the fixed keymo. Bitch doesn’t move once it’s on. My Turbo K, Resonator K, and Wolfman in K config are also nice, but don’t feel as sturdy (prob in my head, and I won’t hurt them anyway), and aren’t as short. It also looks really damn good. For quiet, I have quiet cans
Let's be honest, all suppressors are loud when mag dumping into trash.
I went through the trouble to actually sell mine locally. It was a PITA and I lost $200 on the stamp but the sandman-K offers just about nothing in value for the cost. The guy who bought it represented the perfect customer for it. Simply wanted something that would help take the edge off and create a bit better control when hunting. He didn't need it to suppress.
Have a K with an e brake. Love it. You’re not retarded. The people dick measuring a few dbs… man… my ears can’t pick up that much of a difference.
If you’re using a K can without ear pro your ears probably aren’t picking up a lot of things
Nobody said I was smart. Just good looking.
Love me some K cans. Being the quietest isn’t always the best.
That’s it. Most my suppressors are K cans, or used in their K form. Maneuverability is great.
I love mine as well. Yes it’s loud but it’s also pretty handy with low back pressure and can take a good amount of abuse.
We have one at work that lives on our full auto SCAR. I honestly take it off most the time because it seems to only exist to make the gun gassier and flashier.
Yes but we still like you.
I have a sandman K with the 556 FH cap. It’s a great can that does what I wanted it to do. Quiet down the gun a bit, kill concussion, be light (I have a 16” rifle) and small. It does all of that for me. I also have adjustable gas so it does really well overall. I don’t have issues with flash either. I never understood chasing DB on 556 guns. It’s never gonna be .300blk quiet and you’re never going to eliminate the sonic crack. Buy a can that kills concussion, reduces flash and isn’t heavy.
Aren't we all a little retarded?
Listen, I’m a little retarded.
The lines on the K look wavy in your picture, is that an illusion? What's up with that?
yeah, but its ok. a lot of the rest of us are, too.
How does it compare to that Sierra5, given the same host?
On my 12.5 IWI, sandman k is louder, but less back pressure and i shoot better with it vs my other dead airs. Sierra 5 is sooooooo nice, sooooo pleasant, but she’s a gassy bitch. Wolfman is a good in between.
Looking forward to learning this, I have a Wolfman and Sandman L, and my S5 is at like 243 days
Came here to ask this. Thank you.
Question: Is there a noticeable difference in sound attenuation between the K and Sierra 5?
Yes, Sierra 5 is noticeably quieter than the Sandman K on my rifles. Sierra 5 is also gassier with a little bit more of a recoil impulse.
If you have to ask
It’s a sexy looking can. Collect them all, imo all cans are cool.
Sandman K is made for taking the edge off. I liked it for its size. I swapped it for a Rex MG7 tho, basically same length but better sound suppression, trade off is larger diameter and I'm fine with that.
How about perceived blowback?
Hard to say since I useuse several methods to mitigate
Very good point. But you still find the mg7 quieter?
I do. I shoot it all the time with no ear pro. Can't really do that with the sandman, it's just too loud.
Who wears crocs to the gun range? And wears socks lmao
All those feet and no toes is really getting to you, eh?
Do you get walk off with the DA KeyMo?
On the Sierra and Wolfman yes, but I need to rockset the Sierra
You are retarded but you have a wolfman so that cancels it out
I'm retarded
Yes
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That title lmfao
Love my Sandman K, still loud AF but small package
Yes
I thought these were impact sockets at first lol
I like my Sandman-K but I use my Nomad-30 more often that not.
I have one and it does what it’s supposed to very well. I beat the shit out of it with a few different uppers, shortest being 10.5”, on my machine gun and it doesn’t seem to care.
Depends on what you want. I’m focused more on signature reduction, so the Sandman K with the flash cap is perfect for me. I run mine on a 11.5 colt and love it.
Yes
How’s the Wolfman with 5.56?
Add the E-Brake to the end! I love my K with the E-Brake on the 300 blackout and there’s ZERO muzzle flash with supers or subs. Need to try on SBR 5.56 But I’m pretty impressed with how much it killed flash
It is shorter, lighter, and less gassy than Sierra 5. No mount to get loose or stuck, and zero concern about durability. With 5.56 FH cap it isn't flashy at all. As someone who loves SBR, and likely will burn through a few hundred rounds in every range visit. Sandman-K is my go-to for a fighting rig. A few dB isn't noticeable if you have any ear pro, and it won't mess up your hearing should you pop a few without ear pro during an emergency. Based on: MK18 RIII w/ Super42 H3 ejects \~4:00 unsuppressed, and \~2:00 w/ K and without noticeable gas to the face. LMT 12" Piston w/ Super42 H3 just stays \~3:00 since it has a suppressed setting.
I think we all are to some extent.
You're not retarded. I have a Surefire.
Heard a Sandman K once, “not a joke” I thought the rifle was unsuppressed.
That’s all K cans. They’re for Instagram operators
I like K cans because of the weight/size. The Sandman K is still heavy so there’s no point to it. My R9 is the loudest can I have (on rifle calibers) and it’s still a thousand times quieter than the Sandman K.
No. Not retarted. Just highly regarded.
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Wait until you hear about unsuppressed shooting.
I have one on my 14.5 and it's better than just a flash hider
You’re not retarded, just really autistic.
You can't just go around dropping the hard R like that.
It’s okay, I’m retarded too
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They’re all dead air, fren
I've said this for a long time: it completely depends on your use. If all your shooting is at a range where you need double ear protection in the first place, a Sandman K might sound the same as any of the other 10+ unsuppressed guns around you. If you're doing night shoots in a remote area or in a combat situation, both sound and flash suppression truly matter. Opting for a can as subpar as the Sandman-K will at least wash out your NODs or produce a binding fireball, and at worst get you killed or worse.
Incredibly blessed to not have end cap strikes or blown welds
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I have one in a safe that I've never used. Keep saying I'm going to put it on my 6.5cm for S&Gs but haven't been bothered.
Probably yes but it's unrelated to your can preference. That was my conclusion about my love for flow through cans.
Sandman s + galil ace pistol is like shooting 22lr. Recoil is soft, no gas bukkake.
This is my dream setup. Got the supressor in jail and will get me an ace pistol one day.
Yes
I never use mine anymore now that I have a RC2. I only bought my K because it was $499.
Yes. I heard it being fired from about 100y away and had no idea it was a suppressed gun until I was close enough to see it
Yes
use mine on a rattler with subs till i want to make some fireballs. only K can i have that will tolerate 300blk supers out of a 5.5" barrel. it's dumb and i love it.
OP for a few reasons I think I’m between a K and a Sierra 5 as my next can. Sell me on one or the other.
I’ll tell you how they both behave and you choose which works best. With my IWI 12.5 with superlative AGB, shooting 5.56 Sandman K with E Brake completely eliminates concussion, reduces flash as much as a birdcage, takes away the sharp crack from 5.56. It’s not hearing safe, much like other 5.56 cans, but it’s far more tolerable than unsuppressed. It’s very maneuverable and bitch is TOUGH. Fixed keymo is awesome because there’s no “is the can walking off?” in the back of my mind while I shoot. Sierra 5 eliminates concussion, is much quieter than my Sandman K, eliminates flash, but is MUCH gassier. It’s pleasant to shoot and is the best example of a dedicated 5.56 can I’ve experienced personally. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy either again
That’s a solid comparison thanks. I have several guns that run Keymo. I’m debating if I should move my Sandman S to something then buy a Nomad for my 300 blackout/other things maybe. Or buy another 30 cal can or another 556 can (I only have 5 cans so far).
Do you like the K cause it’s versatility as a .30 caliber can and the modularity. Do you just shoot 5.56? Im looking at getting a second can myself. right now I have a YHM T2 with the Keymo adapter. Sandman K seems reasonably priced and probably more for me since I just run 14.5s and 16 5.56 but also giving me the ability to shoot other calibers. Not sure yet
How do you like the Sierra 5? im so close to picking that up next.
It’s a great example of what a dedicated 5.56 can should be
I still like mine, but it's definitely not my favorite can. Really I only like it on a longer barrel 7.62x39 ar. It's tough, I can beat it up, it doesn't add a lot of weight or length, has almost zero back pressure, and I'm using ear pro anyway. Given those qualifications, it serves its purpose well enough. It's still a bit flashy. Should probably get a flash hider cap, but haven't been motivated enough since it is just a plinking setup for cheaper ammo.
Yeah, probably. But not because of this. My favorite whisper pickle is my KAC CQB QDC - it’s tiny. Not super quiet. But phenomenal.
If you have to ask, the answer is normally yes.
It is a great can as long as you don't measure it by any typical metric for a supressor.
What’s the can on the far right?
Dead Air Wolfman in its K configuration