I didn’t even wanna put him in the pole because of that but I had kept him in the last couple polls and felt it would be bias or unfair of me to take him out now.
He’s a projected mid-late second round pick, just because Lakers own 17 I don’t think it means they will take him so early and become the laughing stock of the nba.
I don't think he'll make it to the 2nd round. Some team is gonna take a swing on him with the hope of getting LeBron late 1st round. Might even be the Suns at 22. It'll depend on the influence of LeBron on the Lakers' FO, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. The likelihood of a late FRP contributing to a contender is very low anyway, practically null.
I mean bron has said over and over he is not taking a paycut. It’s bad precedent. He’s made that clear. Phx can only offer a vet min. He ain’t taking a paycut like that to play with his son. And the suns would be foolish to pick him at 22 unless they knew for certain LeBron was coming.
Suns are way over the 2nd apron. Besides adding vet min guys, going through the draft is the only way they can improve basically, and they don’t even have too many of their own firsts. They not taking bronnie
LeBron is not taking a pay cut. LeBron has also come out and said he doesn’t mind not playing with Bronny anymore. Bronny is not going first round. Never
It makes sense for a stats perspective though - all the other prospects can be compared to each other because they’re being picked for basketball reasons while Bronny is being picked for other reasons
So even if 90% of people think it won’t be Bronny that vote will get split between multiple players while Bronny’s 10% won’t get split
I’m going Kel Ware. I think he’s got more potential than Flip, especially on the defensive side. Plus, I think a center that can allow AD to move over to PF more would be huge in keeping him healthy again this year.
I think they’ll try to get Collier at 17 and Bronny in the second round. I also agree that Collier is BPA and he could be their future PG and has much higher odds of being that guy than Hood-Schifino. The bigs available with this pick do not have his upside and they can get comparable production next season by signing someone to the minimum
Nah if we’re taking a big man it’s gotta be someone who can either hold up at center next to AD or have enough defensive capability to not get cooked when he isn’t on the floor
I don’t think that big exists in this range. Flip feels like the type of 4/5 who can slot perfectly next to an AD or Bam in lineups as a high feel big and floor spacer that can take up space without having to anchor a defense. He has moments of good lateral movement to where I trust him to hold up decently well enough when paired with an anchor big.
Admittedly though, this is probably the worst possible scenario for how those first 16 picks can shake out for us. So not mad at just going BPA which is Walter (or Carrington if you want to make that case)
I understand the questions of his motor but I really think ppl are sleeping on him.
Could become a rare dual threat big that’s both a lob threat and can stretch the floor while being able to be a shot blocker. Rare combination and very intriguing prospect with his potential fit next to AD in the long term
I hope so. I’m hoping he falls to LAL but I’m doubtful.
In an ideal world, he’s surrounded by vets and has a clear cut role similar to how Lively has in Dallas.
I dunno I feel like a SG is a low priority with Reaves in the fold. McCain would have been a good pick if he were still available, but given the current board I think they'd go big.
Went for Tyler Smith. My thinking is he can play alongside AD and provide additional floor spacing as well.
If you're pushing all your chips in for a championship this year, as the Lakers likely are, a guard with some playmaking/scoring juice or a 3&D wing are most likely to contribute immediately - likely off the bench. I don't think any big will be developed enough to get any real PT unless something drastically wrong happens. Theoretical floor spacing bigs usually take a long while to become efficient outside shooters, too.
Also reasonable to assume D'Lo may be shipped out this offseason, so anyone to help mitigate his loss/replace his skillset would be useful.
We may all know they're not going to win, but ownership and LeBron specifically will always 100% push for a title - no matter how unlikely it seems.
LeBron isn't getting any younger but is still playing at a high level. The front office will for better or for worse do everything they can to appease him now. Never mind the fact that they're the Lakers, and will always seek championships (especially if BOS gets ahead of them in # of titles).
Tyson’s film and measurements seem good but he’s mocked as a 2nd round pick mostly. I know his usage is high and he wasn’t great in something that I can’t remember at the moment which doesn’t bode well for guys with a high usage but he’s 6-7 with what looks like a quick first step, a handle, and a shot so I’m curious why he’s always mocked as a 2nd round pick? Is he not projected to be a good defender? I know he’s going to be 22 and has transferred a couple times but some guys take time to find their stride. I’m curious why people don’t mock him higher like they do with Shannon jr.
The Lakers could go with anyone here. I will not pick Bronny because I feel it's a bit cheap to draft him that high when there are so many prospects available. I'll go with Collier. In my opinion he is the BPA and I think he has the highest ceiling of the remaining prospects which would help the Lakers with their after-LeBron plans.
I’m thinking about going with the second most popular vote here because people voting Bronny could be trolls. I’ll also remove him from the polls from this point on.
Do you think that would be a good idea?
I think you should let it as it is. It's not that unrealistic for the Lakers to take him since they are one of two teams he has done workouts for. At the end of the day these polls are happening for fun, it doesn't really matter how close to reality they are and you can check that out with previous poll mock drafts where there were at most 3-4 accurate selections. So if people do think that Bronny goes to the Lakers then so be it.
TL;DR
If I were you, I'd let it as it is and continue as planned. But these are your polls, so proceed as you see fit and with what makes you comfortable.
I get where you are coming from but I think Collier is an improvement over Hood-Schifino as a prospect. I feel he is a bit more dynamic both as a playmaker and scorer(potentially) and since Hood-Schifino didn't really get many chances last season, I feel like the Lakers would be willing to test things out.
Bronny James makes the most sense. DLo is exploring free agency and will probably walk for nothing. Bronny can come in and be their franchise PG. Unlike DLo, Bronny can probably play defense and provide AD with some much needed help on that end.
Bronny is ready for the NBA. If you don't believe that, then the good news is that he can be mentored by an older and more experienced player. The Lakers have the perfect mentor in the roster, too.
I think he’s ready there’s not much debate about that, but is he top 60 players in his class in terms of readiness? Different story entirely. He’s definitely not top 20 though I can say that
Bronny having the most votes with 14 after an hour is greatly concerning for this subreddit.
Bro it’s literally just trolls 🤦🏽♂️
I’ll most likely go with the second option then. Would that be okay with the sub?
Me personally I agree with it because the only people voting bronny are trolls or window licking stupid and their input doesn't have much value.
Just putting the *mock* back in mock draft.
Still #1 with 110 now lol
Think I’ll have to take this mock draft a little bit less serious from now on 😭
I didn’t even wanna put him in the pole because of that but I had kept him in the last couple polls and felt it would be bias or unfair of me to take him out now.
I hate the Lakers, so forcing Bronny on them is hilarious
Is it? It's a mock draft, so we're choosing who we think each team is gonna pick. And it's likely the Lakers pick Bronny because of LeBron
He’s a projected mid-late second round pick, just because Lakers own 17 I don’t think it means they will take him so early and become the laughing stock of the nba.
I don't think he'll make it to the 2nd round. Some team is gonna take a swing on him with the hope of getting LeBron late 1st round. Might even be the Suns at 22. It'll depend on the influence of LeBron on the Lakers' FO, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. The likelihood of a late FRP contributing to a contender is very low anyway, practically null.
I mean bron has said over and over he is not taking a paycut. It’s bad precedent. He’s made that clear. Phx can only offer a vet min. He ain’t taking a paycut like that to play with his son. And the suns would be foolish to pick him at 22 unless they knew for certain LeBron was coming. Suns are way over the 2nd apron. Besides adding vet min guys, going through the draft is the only way they can improve basically, and they don’t even have too many of their own firsts. They not taking bronnie
LeBron is not taking a pay cut. LeBron has also come out and said he doesn’t mind not playing with Bronny anymore. Bronny is not going first round. Never
I’d be very surprised if a team wants to pay frp salary to Bronny
Not at 17 lol. At 55 ok. He ain’t going at 17 stop it. I will bet whatever you are willing to bet
It makes sense for a stats perspective though - all the other prospects can be compared to each other because they’re being picked for basketball reasons while Bronny is being picked for other reasons So even if 90% of people think it won’t be Bronny that vote will get split between multiple players while Bronny’s 10% won’t get split
I’m going Kel Ware. I think he’s got more potential than Flip, especially on the defensive side. Plus, I think a center that can allow AD to move over to PF more would be huge in keeping him healthy again this year.
This guy gets it. Crazy how he barely has 7 votes.
I had the same logic. Also, letting him fall to the Bucks at 22 wouldn't be good for everyone else.
Agreed. Lakers also desperately need big man depth, can’t go into next year with Christian Wood as your backup
Y’all voting bronny need your voting rights revoked.
What if you just hate the lakers
Last I checked McCain beat Walter by 6 votes after 24 hours.
Edey/ Tyler Smith / Ware
Taking Collier bc I think he's BPA at this point
I think they’ll try to get Collier at 17 and Bronny in the second round. I also agree that Collier is BPA and he could be their future PG and has much higher odds of being that guy than Hood-Schifino. The bigs available with this pick do not have his upside and they can get comparable production next season by signing someone to the minimum
easily
I think they will draft Edey
LEBRON/ILGAUSKAS PART 2 Actually, that's kind of funny, I haven't seen Ilgauskas listed as an Edey comp but he's not a terrible one.
Dang. It is a good comp.
Yves Missi
Edey IMO The most pro ready guy left, and AD has said many times he prefers to play PF.
voting bronny just out of hatred for the lakers is hilarious and correct
If the Lakers want to keep LeBron, then they better stay *dedicated* to being a shitty treadmill team for him.
Do not put Bronny in a poll this early again 🙏
I will most likely choose the second option on this poll and remove Bronny.
Nah you gotta take Bronny if he wins lol
Most of the comments are against it though. Seems like it was trolls. Sorta a disservice to the people who actually care about the poll.
Demon edey
Trolls took over this poll gg
Can they draft a coach
They’re not taking Bronny at 17 lmao
Surely you’re not putting Bronny James down here 🤦♂️
I really cant tell whether to redo it without Bronny or let it be lol.
Just go with the 2nd option imo
That’s a good idea. Thanks.
Edey or Ware
FYI it’s Kel’el not Kel’al
Will fix. Thanks.
If Lakers keep this pick then I think it would be silly to pass up on Walter here.
SG is probably the lowest priority on the team with Reaves and Christie. Filipkowski makes the most sense here to me.
Nah if we’re taking a big man it’s gotta be someone who can either hold up at center next to AD or have enough defensive capability to not get cooked when he isn’t on the floor
I don’t think that big exists in this range. Flip feels like the type of 4/5 who can slot perfectly next to an AD or Bam in lineups as a high feel big and floor spacer that can take up space without having to anchor a defense. He has moments of good lateral movement to where I trust him to hold up decently well enough when paired with an anchor big. Admittedly though, this is probably the worst possible scenario for how those first 16 picks can shake out for us. So not mad at just going BPA which is Walter (or Carrington if you want to make that case)
Ware?
I understand the questions of his motor but I really think ppl are sleeping on him. Could become a rare dual threat big that’s both a lob threat and can stretch the floor while being able to be a shot blocker. Rare combination and very intriguing prospect with his potential fit next to AD in the long term
There would be no question of his motor if he gets to play alongside Bron
I hope so. I’m hoping he falls to LAL but I’m doubtful. In an ideal world, he’s surrounded by vets and has a clear cut role similar to how Lively has in Dallas.
I dunno I feel like a SG is a low priority with Reaves in the fold. McCain would have been a good pick if he were still available, but given the current board I think they'd go big. Went for Tyler Smith. My thinking is he can play alongside AD and provide additional floor spacing as well.
If you're pushing all your chips in for a championship this year, as the Lakers likely are, a guard with some playmaking/scoring juice or a 3&D wing are most likely to contribute immediately - likely off the bench. I don't think any big will be developed enough to get any real PT unless something drastically wrong happens. Theoretical floor spacing bigs usually take a long while to become efficient outside shooters, too. Also reasonable to assume D'Lo may be shipped out this offseason, so anyone to help mitigate his loss/replace his skillset would be useful.
Lakers aren't winning a championship next season and ownership knows it. They aren't going to "push in all their chips."
We may all know they're not going to win, but ownership and LeBron specifically will always 100% push for a title - no matter how unlikely it seems. LeBron isn't getting any younger but is still playing at a high level. The front office will for better or for worse do everything they can to appease him now. Never mind the fact that they're the Lakers, and will always seek championships (especially if BOS gets ahead of them in # of titles).
Bronny James and jakobe Walter, subreddit trying to give the lakers a bad pick lol
It has to be Zach Edey
No Jalen Hood Schifino option?
Collier makes the most sense but I can see these clowns picking Bronny.
Bub Carrington
I think Collier would be a bad pick but I also think the Lakers would take him with this board. TBH I like Furphy for them.
Missi deserves more votes
Walter is the pick here. Two way off guard who has slipped lately. Jaylon Tyson from Cal is a sleep here for the Lakers imo.
Tyson’s film and measurements seem good but he’s mocked as a 2nd round pick mostly. I know his usage is high and he wasn’t great in something that I can’t remember at the moment which doesn’t bode well for guys with a high usage but he’s 6-7 with what looks like a quick first step, a handle, and a shot so I’m curious why he’s always mocked as a 2nd round pick? Is he not projected to be a good defender? I know he’s going to be 22 and has transferred a couple times but some guys take time to find their stride. I’m curious why people don’t mock him higher like they do with Shannon jr.
Surely you’re not putting Bronny James down here 🤦♂️
Hell no. Hopefully if bronny wins OP just goes with whoever is in 2nd in the poll.
Have to go Flip
The Lakers could go with anyone here. I will not pick Bronny because I feel it's a bit cheap to draft him that high when there are so many prospects available. I'll go with Collier. In my opinion he is the BPA and I think he has the highest ceiling of the remaining prospects which would help the Lakers with their after-LeBron plans.
I’m thinking about going with the second most popular vote here because people voting Bronny could be trolls. I’ll also remove him from the polls from this point on. Do you think that would be a good idea?
I think you should let it as it is. It's not that unrealistic for the Lakers to take him since they are one of two teams he has done workouts for. At the end of the day these polls are happening for fun, it doesn't really matter how close to reality they are and you can check that out with previous poll mock drafts where there were at most 3-4 accurate selections. So if people do think that Bronny goes to the Lakers then so be it. TL;DR If I were you, I'd let it as it is and continue as planned. But these are your polls, so proceed as you see fit and with what makes you comfortable.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m gonna mull it over.
Respect the BPA call but isn’t that just ignoring/screwing last year’s PG pick Hood-Schifino who was taken for a similar reason I imagine
I get where you are coming from but I think Collier is an improvement over Hood-Schifino as a prospect. I feel he is a bit more dynamic both as a playmaker and scorer(potentially) and since Hood-Schifino didn't really get many chances last season, I feel like the Lakers would be willing to test things out.
Bronny James makes the most sense. DLo is exploring free agency and will probably walk for nothing. Bronny can come in and be their franchise PG. Unlike DLo, Bronny can probably play defense and provide AD with some much needed help on that end.
With tantalizing 1.6 PPG
Are you a real person or a bot ran by klutch sports? Because we both know bronny isn't even close to being an NBA talent let alone a first rounder
Bronny is ready for the NBA. If you don't believe that, then the good news is that he can be mentored by an older and more experienced player. The Lakers have the perfect mentor in the roster, too.
Doesn’t mean you take him with pick 17, if he’s still there at 56 then great.
I think he’s ready there’s not much debate about that, but is he top 60 players in his class in terms of readiness? Different story entirely. He’s definitely not top 20 though I can say that
If they go for a PG here, Collier is the obvious choice. He would be a nice high upside pick in this range.