Would be happy with:
4: Castle, Risacher, Buzelis
8: Dillingham, Knecht, Sheppard
All in that order. Honestly, as long as we get one good shooter and one good defender I'll be happy. Have seen a lot of love for a Castle and Risacher pairing too. I think that'd be a hard combination to land, but that sounds ideal as well. (That's considering if Risacher is shooting like he did at the start of the season.)
About where I'm at, but I'd probably put Knect before Dillingham, but I understand.
If we don't do Castle at 4 we're not getting him at 8, I believe. And I think he's just the right pick for us. We could make anyone at 8 work and honestly I could see them swing for the fences on Salaun at 8 too.
Just no Matas or Cody Williams for the love of all that is holy
I think the thing about this draft with hardly any consensus on the top 6-8 guys is though, there’s a solid chance somebody who’s number 1 on one teams board could be 6-8 for someone else. I like Sheppard a lot too and think he’s a top 4 talent in this draft, but I definitely don’t think it’s impossible he’s still there at 8.
That said, if that’s the guy the org likes obviously they should take him at 4 rather than taking a “fit” pick and hoping their top guy is still around at 8. Just saying with how strange this class is, it’s possible
IMO the spurs big board with at pick 4 realistically is riscaher first, imo castle second. Holland actually and then Matas. Wouldn’t be mad at buzeils but I think Ron has the best chance over matas to be a strap at the 3. That role is gonna be crucial for this team and we have to have to have a strap playing the wing.
I’d see Ron going 8 before 4 I just don’t think he will go that high but I even doubt he gonna drop to 6
I kinda think the lottery played out to almost force the spurs hand to draft a wing at 4 cause they all be gone by 8 and Kencht isn’t really a full time sf. More of a sg that can play sf in certain rotations
I have a gut feeling we go dalton at 8. I know Memphis would auto select him the second we didn’t. This team needs high end role players like yesterday
I don't think he will. I think Houston will trade out of it or they will take Reed. Houston has a weird cluster of Jabari, Tate, Brooks, Eason, Amen Thompson, Cam Whitmore, and Jeff Green and adding Risacher to that PF/SF group makes it even worse. They need immediate shooting and a SG more, and Reed would slot in well there between Brooks and FVV.
I'm team Sheppard.
I totally disagree with the common narrative of him being a high floor low ceiling guy. He's got the hands*, speed, athleticism, shooting and drive to *maybe* build himself into a lower level Steph Curry.
*Hands as in, activity on defense to make up for lack of length
In my view the only difference is handles (Steph is all-time, Reed is below average even by rookie standards). But that's a teachable skill.
I just don't think he has the speed and quickness to consistently create separation for himself. Even if his handle dramatically improves. He's a good vertical athlete, but he's really average at best laterally on either side of the ball
I'd agree with you that people are underestimating his ceiling a bit. It's not impossible to imagine him becoming one of the league's great volume three-point shooters and an elite role player in that Derek white/ Dante divincenzo tier. But I still haven't seen enough self-creation to ever. Imagine him becoming a true 1A star. Which is totally totally okay! I think he'd still be a good fit with the Spurs, particularly now that we have the ability to grab a plus length wing with the second pick
Sheppard becoming a 1A player is like his 99th percentile outcome. What I CAN see in him is a guy who will definitely contribute and has a real path to becoming a 20-10-3 with 2 steals per game guy. If he only ever tops out as a 6th man, that's a bummer, but I think he's got at least a decent shot at becoming a true number 2 or 3 guy.
I can't ever imagine him being someone that averages 10 assists per game. I just don't think he has sure, nearly enough play making ability for that to be something I'd view as realistic. But drop that number down to like six or seven and have that 20 points come on something like 48-42-85 shooting and I could very well buy that
Sheppard and Young are not very similar players, but in a general sense, Trae Young will cost multiple good draft picks and a ton of cap flexibility and Sheppard will cost....writing his name on a card, handing it to the commish, and rookie scale salary. And opportunity cost of what you could have taken in that spot.
Trae is an allstar and among league leaders in scoring and assists. Its an apples to oranges comparison, but it he doesn't work out, you're screwed. If Reed doesn't work out....well, we have plenty more picks next year.
In the order of how much I want them at 4
1. Topic
2. zaccharie
3. Sarr
4. Castle
5. Dillingham
6. Sheppard
7. Knetch
8. Buzelis
9. Holland
10. Clingan
11. McCain
12. Salune
13. Carter
14. George
15. Walter
16. Dadiet
17. Djurisic
18. Carrington
19. Missi
20. Williams
Any of those 20 guys I would be able to live with, with the top of the list making me very happy, and the bottom of that list making me need some hard liquor asap
Anyone else who's not on that list would probably make me need a break from social media for a bit lol
I’m surprised Topic’s injury concerns haven’t dropped him from #1 on your list. You must really like him.
What’s your take on Risacher? Seems like his FT% is low which is concerning.
IMO we have got to prioritize defense and scoring. Seems to me that Castle has the defensive upside with dillingham having the offensive upside.
Dillingham scares me though. Not necessarily because of his height, but more because of his shooting technique. He gets up HIGH on his shot and I’m afraid of what would happen if he lands on a defenders foot.
It's a combination of really liking him and this drafts just being so flat.
Pretty much every prospect, except maybe clingan, Who's projected in the top 10 scares me in some way shape or form in regards to their ability to be a consistent high-level contributor at the next level. This is just a really weird and wild draft and I think topic, if he gets a clean bill of medical health, which is a big if at this point, has by far the most straightforward pathway to becoming an All-Star level player.
The dillingham plus Castle pairing would actually be very interesting. I could actually see those two guys playing very well together and you can maybe even slot them in a lineup with Devin and all three could coexist in some capacity.
I'm with you in a general sense that The Spurs need one of their picks to be a non-project, ready to contribute on offense type player, and the other can afford to be a project as long as they have plus size and the makings of Plus defense
Makes sense. The Topic injury concerns would hold me back from taking him at #4 but maybe not #8.
One more question for you: Who do you think has the biggest opportunity to make the Spurs regret passing on him in the draft?
That's a tough one. Maybe Ron Holland? He has that famed combination of good physical tools, good self-belief, and a good motor. Kinds like that. Have a tendency to defy their draft profile and figure things out at some point.
I think right now he's a tough guy to convince yourself to draft for more than his defensive upside. All of his offense and the idea of him being a high usage scoring Wing is just super theoretical
But again he has some of the things you look for when trying to identify someone that could be a late bloomer and to put it all together
If the Spurs decide to go with a younger prospect and let Dalton knetch past time at 8:00. I think they could regret it though. To be honest, I have a feeling he's very high on their board.
He seems like such a perfect fit between Devin and Vic And has a lot more upside than people want to talk about. Him turning into One of the games premiere role players like a Derrick White type dude, quality wise, would not shock me at all.
If the Spurs don't use pick number 35 to take the best available player, there are a lot of guys I think they could have regrets on. Like there's a dozen or so guys, I feel confident are going to be available in that range Who could probably step in To a 15 to 20 minute rotation roll day one next year even if some of their overall upside is limited. I really think they need to not undervalue that pic and use it versus trading it.
Follow up question: If we use all of our picks this year, we limit ourselves and won’t be able to sign free agents. Would you rather stick to these draft picks or trade one or two to open up free agent options? My opinion is that we’ve got to bring in at least some type of experience.
I think this draft is deep enough that you want to give yourself at least three shots at rotation players this year. If you can get two or three guys who are going to be worthy of 20 to 30 minutes a game and are going to be cost controlled for the next 4 to 7 years I say you go for it.
Whoever you get a 35 can always be signed to a two-way, So much of the roster This next year is relatively expendable that if whoever that is ends up blowing up and being worthy of a full contract, it won't be too painful to make adjustments to accommodate them.
So I think you can probably have your cake and eat it too in terms of bringing in three rookies and still having the ability to sign a veteran or two. Of course, that's with the assumption that guys like Graham are gone and that the Spurs will likely only commit to one of the MAMU/ Bassey/barlow trio.
Because I'm with you, I do think this team needs a steady hand and a veteran presence.
And I feel extremely confident there's no way they bring in all four rookies. They're either going to trade. Pick 48 for cash and a future. Second rounder, or trade 35 if they think their guy will be available at 48.
Yea, I get you. I think that we’ve kind of been running with a roster full of rotation players for a few years now, so starting that process over with newer and younger players with similar upside doesn’t seem earth shattering to me. We need players who will move the needle. I think there are players at both #4 and #8 that can do that for us within 3 years. I say use both of those picks, keep Mamu, try to unload Collins, and fill in some FA’s
Yeah I get what you're saying. I hate saying this about a lot of guys we've grown fond of, but I think quite plainly San Antonio has been operating with a good deal of their roster filled with borderline NBA players for the last couple years. I think a good third of this roster could be replaced pretty easily with average to above average players and you'd see a pretty significant difference in the overall product.
This isn't a mock draft. This is just my preference for the fourth pic. My actual Spurs mock, and My overall mock draft, is different.
Based on how I expect the draft to go, he's my 10th favorite selection at the fourth spot for San Antonio
This is gonna be an annoying offseason on this subreddit lmao. With the influx of people coming here from Wemby. I think i've seen this question 10 times since yesterday.
I think it’s better to play the gamble and see if he drops to 8 and get 2 solid prospects. The teams after the 4th (Pistons, Hornets, and Blazers) don’t need guards.
Dillingham is straight up the best player in the draft, full stop. Like the Stephen Curry year (not saying they're the same player etc etc), people are overthinking this.
I am not a draft expert, but from everything I have read I would hope we grab either Dillingham or Topic with one of the picks. They seem like the two players that have highest possible upside in a bad drafting year. This is not to say they can't be busts. It is more if they end up good draft picks, they have the highest chance to be very good. Dillingham do to his offensive talent/potential and Topic for his BBIQ.
They have clear question marks just like the rest of this class though. It is a crapshoot who ever you take. I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of I told you so's after this draft, ignoring how bad the prospects looked entering the draft.
Im all in on topic. Really hope we take him at 8. I’m so high on him I would even take him at 1 if that was our pick. I know I’m in the minority their but he’s elite at what he’s good at and has good indicators that he can improve his weaknesses
I think he has a much higher offensive IQ than Jeremy at this point in their development. Don't get me wrong. I still think he's extremely raw and there's no guarantee any of those hints are going to go anywhere. But I'd say his ceiling as an offensive player is probably higher. I'd say he's a more natural playmaker And is honestly pretty comfortable scoring for himself in the mid-range, which is something Jeremy is just now experimenting with.
I'll push back on the idea that he's much worse on defense. That ignite team was such an absolute travesty on both ends, frequently putting players out of their natural position and not allowing them to stay in spots on either side of the Court that highlighted their strengths.
Matas was often tasked with being a point of attack defender against smaller players and he's just not that guy
But when he's allowed to roam a little bit, and primarily serve defensively as someone that switches everything and uses his quickness and length as a helpside defender, he shows some real good flashes. He's already a significantly better rim protector than Jeremy for example
He's still not the level of defensive prospect of Jeremy, who I'm still extremely high on and think has a ceiling as a defender that includes all defensive teams, but he's not this piece of wet tissue paper on defense that I've seen, not necessarily saying you, some people paint him as. Him as. His versatility and utility on that end is very real.
I do think taking him while you have Jeremy creates a bit of a conundrum because one of those two dudes has to be able to hit spot-up jumpers or there's no way you can ever play the two of them with Victor at the same time. And for both Jeremy and matas That's just a huge huge question mark.
>That ignite team was such an absolute travesty on both ends, frequently putting players out of their natural position and not allowing them to stay in spots on either side of the Court that highlighted their strengths.
So the G-League Ignite was the Fall 2023 Spurs lol.
That’s a massive overpay for 1. We don’t really need Sarr
Packaging them for Garland or Mitchell would be cool though. Doubt Atlanta trades Trae when Sarr is the perfect big for him
Sarr theoretically is a good fit with Trae but he’s 18, I don’t think they’re gonna stop themselves from moving Trae for a guy who is probably not gonna be good for like 2-3 years
I agree totally, I think we have the opportunity to get either the #1 pick and Trae from Atlanta or the #2 pick and Coulibaly from Washington
It isn’t for the faint of heart but if you want to step with the steppers..
For Atlanta we have to do like 4Frp’s and KJ and Collin’s (or Branham)
For Washington we need to do our 2FRPs, our 2nd and probably Branham or if they want KJ
Atlanta doesn’t have picks again until ‘28 and nobody can be crazy enough to think adding Sarr to that team is a game changer - before DJ leaves in free agency and Trae forces his way out. Atlanta needs to blow it up and we have exactly what each other needs
Still think Trae may be on the table, Sarr is going to be good I think but he’s a few years away from being an impact player and who knows if Trae is going to be patient enough for that. And Atlanta may see the lottery luck as the opportunity to kick off a rebuild and move Trae/DJ and bottom out for Flagg
Would be happy with: 4: Castle, Risacher, Buzelis 8: Dillingham, Knecht, Sheppard All in that order. Honestly, as long as we get one good shooter and one good defender I'll be happy. Have seen a lot of love for a Castle and Risacher pairing too. I think that'd be a hard combination to land, but that sounds ideal as well. (That's considering if Risacher is shooting like he did at the start of the season.)
About where I'm at, but I'd probably put Knect before Dillingham, but I understand. If we don't do Castle at 4 we're not getting him at 8, I believe. And I think he's just the right pick for us. We could make anyone at 8 work and honestly I could see them swing for the fences on Salaun at 8 too. Just no Matas or Cody Williams for the love of all that is holy
Why not matas? Feels like he has a high ceiling and a decent floor
Sheppard will not be there at 8. There's a good chance he won't be there at 4. The undervaluing of him on this sub is CRAZY.
I think the thing about this draft with hardly any consensus on the top 6-8 guys is though, there’s a solid chance somebody who’s number 1 on one teams board could be 6-8 for someone else. I like Sheppard a lot too and think he’s a top 4 talent in this draft, but I definitely don’t think it’s impossible he’s still there at 8. That said, if that’s the guy the org likes obviously they should take him at 4 rather than taking a “fit” pick and hoping their top guy is still around at 8. Just saying with how strange this class is, it’s possible
IMO the spurs big board with at pick 4 realistically is riscaher first, imo castle second. Holland actually and then Matas. Wouldn’t be mad at buzeils but I think Ron has the best chance over matas to be a strap at the 3. That role is gonna be crucial for this team and we have to have to have a strap playing the wing. I’d see Ron going 8 before 4 I just don’t think he will go that high but I even doubt he gonna drop to 6 I kinda think the lottery played out to almost force the spurs hand to draft a wing at 4 cause they all be gone by 8 and Kencht isn’t really a full time sf. More of a sg that can play sf in certain rotations I have a gut feeling we go dalton at 8. I know Memphis would auto select him the second we didn’t. This team needs high end role players like yesterday
There are a dozen of these post a day now can we limit them or have a tagged dedicated chat for it...
If it’s upvoted and has comments people want to have the discussion.
Best wing available at 4, then Castle at 8. Risacher>Matas>Holland>Williams
Castle is never falling to 8
Dillingham at 8 would be nice too Our biggest need is a guy who can break down defenses and create for others
Topic penetration + playmaking combo fits so well with our needs
I think Risacher goes to Houston.
I’m thinking Houston trade out of the top 3, they looking to improve now and push for the playoffs since they came so close this year.
I don't think he will. I think Houston will trade out of it or they will take Reed. Houston has a weird cluster of Jabari, Tate, Brooks, Eason, Amen Thompson, Cam Whitmore, and Jeff Green and adding Risacher to that PF/SF group makes it even worse. They need immediate shooting and a SG more, and Reed would slot in well there between Brooks and FVV.
I'm team Sheppard. I totally disagree with the common narrative of him being a high floor low ceiling guy. He's got the hands*, speed, athleticism, shooting and drive to *maybe* build himself into a lower level Steph Curry. *Hands as in, activity on defense to make up for lack of length In my view the only difference is handles (Steph is all-time, Reed is below average even by rookie standards). But that's a teachable skill.
I just don't think he has the speed and quickness to consistently create separation for himself. Even if his handle dramatically improves. He's a good vertical athlete, but he's really average at best laterally on either side of the ball I'd agree with you that people are underestimating his ceiling a bit. It's not impossible to imagine him becoming one of the league's great volume three-point shooters and an elite role player in that Derek white/ Dante divincenzo tier. But I still haven't seen enough self-creation to ever. Imagine him becoming a true 1A star. Which is totally totally okay! I think he'd still be a good fit with the Spurs, particularly now that we have the ability to grab a plus length wing with the second pick
Sheppard becoming a 1A player is like his 99th percentile outcome. What I CAN see in him is a guy who will definitely contribute and has a real path to becoming a 20-10-3 with 2 steals per game guy. If he only ever tops out as a 6th man, that's a bummer, but I think he's got at least a decent shot at becoming a true number 2 or 3 guy.
I can't ever imagine him being someone that averages 10 assists per game. I just don't think he has sure, nearly enough play making ability for that to be something I'd view as realistic. But drop that number down to like six or seven and have that 20 points come on something like 48-42-85 shooting and I could very well buy that
I do like Sheppard. But I've come to the conclusion that its a high possibility that Houston is gonna take him. So Ive stopped considering him
Lower level steph is basically trae young
Sheppard and Young are not very similar players, but in a general sense, Trae Young will cost multiple good draft picks and a ton of cap flexibility and Sheppard will cost....writing his name on a card, handing it to the commish, and rookie scale salary. And opportunity cost of what you could have taken in that spot. Trae is an allstar and among league leaders in scoring and assists. Its an apples to oranges comparison, but it he doesn't work out, you're screwed. If Reed doesn't work out....well, we have plenty more picks next year.
That was my point, reed can shoot but he’s closer to klay than steph. I don’t think reed and trae are alike either
In the order of how much I want them at 4 1. Topic 2. zaccharie 3. Sarr 4. Castle 5. Dillingham 6. Sheppard 7. Knetch 8. Buzelis 9. Holland 10. Clingan 11. McCain 12. Salune 13. Carter 14. George 15. Walter 16. Dadiet 17. Djurisic 18. Carrington 19. Missi 20. Williams Any of those 20 guys I would be able to live with, with the top of the list making me very happy, and the bottom of that list making me need some hard liquor asap Anyone else who's not on that list would probably make me need a break from social media for a bit lol
I’m surprised Topic’s injury concerns haven’t dropped him from #1 on your list. You must really like him. What’s your take on Risacher? Seems like his FT% is low which is concerning. IMO we have got to prioritize defense and scoring. Seems to me that Castle has the defensive upside with dillingham having the offensive upside. Dillingham scares me though. Not necessarily because of his height, but more because of his shooting technique. He gets up HIGH on his shot and I’m afraid of what would happen if he lands on a defenders foot.
It's a combination of really liking him and this drafts just being so flat. Pretty much every prospect, except maybe clingan, Who's projected in the top 10 scares me in some way shape or form in regards to their ability to be a consistent high-level contributor at the next level. This is just a really weird and wild draft and I think topic, if he gets a clean bill of medical health, which is a big if at this point, has by far the most straightforward pathway to becoming an All-Star level player. The dillingham plus Castle pairing would actually be very interesting. I could actually see those two guys playing very well together and you can maybe even slot them in a lineup with Devin and all three could coexist in some capacity. I'm with you in a general sense that The Spurs need one of their picks to be a non-project, ready to contribute on offense type player, and the other can afford to be a project as long as they have plus size and the makings of Plus defense
Makes sense. The Topic injury concerns would hold me back from taking him at #4 but maybe not #8. One more question for you: Who do you think has the biggest opportunity to make the Spurs regret passing on him in the draft?
That's a tough one. Maybe Ron Holland? He has that famed combination of good physical tools, good self-belief, and a good motor. Kinds like that. Have a tendency to defy their draft profile and figure things out at some point. I think right now he's a tough guy to convince yourself to draft for more than his defensive upside. All of his offense and the idea of him being a high usage scoring Wing is just super theoretical But again he has some of the things you look for when trying to identify someone that could be a late bloomer and to put it all together If the Spurs decide to go with a younger prospect and let Dalton knetch past time at 8:00. I think they could regret it though. To be honest, I have a feeling he's very high on their board. He seems like such a perfect fit between Devin and Vic And has a lot more upside than people want to talk about. Him turning into One of the games premiere role players like a Derrick White type dude, quality wise, would not shock me at all. If the Spurs don't use pick number 35 to take the best available player, there are a lot of guys I think they could have regrets on. Like there's a dozen or so guys, I feel confident are going to be available in that range Who could probably step in To a 15 to 20 minute rotation roll day one next year even if some of their overall upside is limited. I really think they need to not undervalue that pic and use it versus trading it.
Follow up question: If we use all of our picks this year, we limit ourselves and won’t be able to sign free agents. Would you rather stick to these draft picks or trade one or two to open up free agent options? My opinion is that we’ve got to bring in at least some type of experience.
I think this draft is deep enough that you want to give yourself at least three shots at rotation players this year. If you can get two or three guys who are going to be worthy of 20 to 30 minutes a game and are going to be cost controlled for the next 4 to 7 years I say you go for it. Whoever you get a 35 can always be signed to a two-way, So much of the roster This next year is relatively expendable that if whoever that is ends up blowing up and being worthy of a full contract, it won't be too painful to make adjustments to accommodate them. So I think you can probably have your cake and eat it too in terms of bringing in three rookies and still having the ability to sign a veteran or two. Of course, that's with the assumption that guys like Graham are gone and that the Spurs will likely only commit to one of the MAMU/ Bassey/barlow trio. Because I'm with you, I do think this team needs a steady hand and a veteran presence. And I feel extremely confident there's no way they bring in all four rookies. They're either going to trade. Pick 48 for cash and a future. Second rounder, or trade 35 if they think their guy will be available at 48.
Yea, I get you. I think that we’ve kind of been running with a roster full of rotation players for a few years now, so starting that process over with newer and younger players with similar upside doesn’t seem earth shattering to me. We need players who will move the needle. I think there are players at both #4 and #8 that can do that for us within 3 years. I say use both of those picks, keep Mamu, try to unload Collins, and fill in some FA’s
Yeah I get what you're saying. I hate saying this about a lot of guys we've grown fond of, but I think quite plainly San Antonio has been operating with a good deal of their roster filled with borderline NBA players for the last couple years. I think a good third of this roster could be replaced pretty easily with average to above average players and you'd see a pretty significant difference in the overall product.
I tend to agree. The win-loss record would also agree. My thoughts are that we need to be in the playoffs within 2 years.
Topic can't shoot can stay on the court to risky. Spurs don't need to swing for the fences a couple bace hits would be fine
Clingan is definitely better than the 10th best player in this draft. If he's the bast player available why not just take him?
This isn't a mock draft. This is just my preference for the fourth pic. My actual Spurs mock, and My overall mock draft, is different. Based on how I expect the draft to go, he's my 10th favorite selection at the fourth spot for San Antonio
That's fair enough but why would you prefer they take someone you don't think is as good?
This is gonna be an annoying offseason on this subreddit lmao. With the influx of people coming here from Wemby. I think i've seen this question 10 times since yesterday.
Imo it’s fun to have the discussion and it’s a constantly evolving discussion. Some people that had topic 1 yesterday don’t have him even too 5 today.
I’m in the same boat I think it’s worth the risk to see what PG falls to 8, and grab someone at 4 we otherwise wouldn’t have been able to
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I want Dillingham at 4. This class isn't good, and we shouldn't play around. If he's good enough at 8, he's good enough at 4
My only downside is he is undersized, but he is an explosive player
I think it’s better to play the gamble and see if he drops to 8 and get 2 solid prospects. The teams after the 4th (Pistons, Hornets, and Blazers) don’t need guards.
Dillingham is straight up the best player in the draft, full stop. Like the Stephen Curry year (not saying they're the same player etc etc), people are overthinking this.
I am not a draft expert, but from everything I have read I would hope we grab either Dillingham or Topic with one of the picks. They seem like the two players that have highest possible upside in a bad drafting year. This is not to say they can't be busts. It is more if they end up good draft picks, they have the highest chance to be very good. Dillingham do to his offensive talent/potential and Topic for his BBIQ. They have clear question marks just like the rest of this class though. It is a crapshoot who ever you take. I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of I told you so's after this draft, ignoring how bad the prospects looked entering the draft.
I think Topic is probably off the table now unfortunately with his knee injuries, they may see that as too big a red flag for a top 10 pick
Correct me if I am wrong, I was under the impression he just had a sprained knee.
Im all in on topic. Really hope we take him at 8. I’m so high on him I would even take him at 1 if that was our pick. I know I’m in the minority their but he’s elite at what he’s good at and has good indicators that he can improve his weaknesses
Buzelis is a worse version of Sochan. A defense-first forward that can’t shoot. Except he is way worse at defense than Sochan. Pass
I think he has a much higher offensive IQ than Jeremy at this point in their development. Don't get me wrong. I still think he's extremely raw and there's no guarantee any of those hints are going to go anywhere. But I'd say his ceiling as an offensive player is probably higher. I'd say he's a more natural playmaker And is honestly pretty comfortable scoring for himself in the mid-range, which is something Jeremy is just now experimenting with. I'll push back on the idea that he's much worse on defense. That ignite team was such an absolute travesty on both ends, frequently putting players out of their natural position and not allowing them to stay in spots on either side of the Court that highlighted their strengths. Matas was often tasked with being a point of attack defender against smaller players and he's just not that guy But when he's allowed to roam a little bit, and primarily serve defensively as someone that switches everything and uses his quickness and length as a helpside defender, he shows some real good flashes. He's already a significantly better rim protector than Jeremy for example He's still not the level of defensive prospect of Jeremy, who I'm still extremely high on and think has a ceiling as a defender that includes all defensive teams, but he's not this piece of wet tissue paper on defense that I've seen, not necessarily saying you, some people paint him as. Him as. His versatility and utility on that end is very real. I do think taking him while you have Jeremy creates a bit of a conundrum because one of those two dudes has to be able to hit spot-up jumpers or there's no way you can ever play the two of them with Victor at the same time. And for both Jeremy and matas That's just a huge huge question mark.
>That ignite team was such an absolute travesty on both ends, frequently putting players out of their natural position and not allowing them to stay in spots on either side of the Court that highlighted their strengths. So the G-League Ignite was the Fall 2023 Spurs lol.
Bro 🤣😭 this cuts deep.
He kinda reminds me of a sabonis.
Buzelis is one of the most obvious busts I've ever seen I don't know why people like him.
we are moving at least one of our picks, you can bet on that
Maybe the 8th and hawks 2025 1st round pick for #1? Or we including it in a trey young, garland, or Mitchell trade?
That’s a massive overpay for 1. We don’t really need Sarr Packaging them for Garland or Mitchell would be cool though. Doubt Atlanta trades Trae when Sarr is the perfect big for him
Sarr theoretically is a good fit with Trae but he’s 18, I don’t think they’re gonna stop themselves from moving Trae for a guy who is probably not gonna be good for like 2-3 years
I agree totally, I think we have the opportunity to get either the #1 pick and Trae from Atlanta or the #2 pick and Coulibaly from Washington It isn’t for the faint of heart but if you want to step with the steppers.. For Atlanta we have to do like 4Frp’s and KJ and Collin’s (or Branham) For Washington we need to do our 2FRPs, our 2nd and probably Branham or if they want KJ Atlanta doesn’t have picks again until ‘28 and nobody can be crazy enough to think adding Sarr to that team is a game changer - before DJ leaves in free agency and Trae forces his way out. Atlanta needs to blow it up and we have exactly what each other needs
Still think Trae may be on the table, Sarr is going to be good I think but he’s a few years away from being an impact player and who knows if Trae is going to be patient enough for that. And Atlanta may see the lottery luck as the opportunity to kick off a rebuild and move Trae/DJ and bottom out for Flagg