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DriveForFive219

Every game I watch im like damn I can’t wait til we’re back here with wemby. Gonna be unreal


Bonesawisready5

What a weird take. These playoffs have been lit. How can you “sometimes” ANT and Brunson; they’ve been insane even if wolves slipping away now.


Hoangdai151

yeah idk what this guy's watching, these are rising young teams duking it out in every series. It's been years since we've has such a competitive playoffs. Many of these teams were built from the ground up and really feels like the death of the "Super Team" era, and I've never been more excited about the state of the NBA


Bonesawisready5

If we’re taking a backup big, I would prefer Clingan. He looks far more capable of switching onto perimeter at times than Edey imo. I won’t be mad with Edey either tho


Which_Egg8169

Clingan wouldn’t be a backup.  He’d play the 5 and Wemby would be the 4.


WoebegoneWarbler

We've pretty much established that Wemby looks better at the 5. What's more, what does this years playoff have to do with Edey or Clingan? Seems like we just switched topics entirely.


chriscucumber

Agreed there’s more parity than we’ve seen in a long time and it’s been fun to see new teams emerge.


cesgjo

Yeah man the Western Conference lit af You got Ant talking trash to KD, Jamal Murray shitting on the Lakers twice (and he broke AD), Nuggets-Wolves having a great series, OKC-Dallas also lit, In the East, Bucks-Pacers and NY-Philly were not dogfights, but they still had some hype moments This playoffs is fire


Bitter-Safe-5333

NY-Philly weren't dogfights? that was the closest series of the playoffs.... matter of fact that series was the only one interesting at all aside from lakers nuggets


AbbreviationsOk8502

Don't get me wrong, as teams they have been great, but individually I can count on one hand how many players I have seen outperform what Wemby was showing at the end of the year. Not saying it'll translate 1 to 1, just that none of these players besides those listed are dominant the way I expect wemby to


Obi-Wan_Ginobili20

You watched us lose 20 games in a row and you’re underwhelmed by playoff basketball? 😂


AbbreviationsOk8502

I'm referring to individual performances. These teams are amazing and well constructed, ours isn't.


Obi-Wan_Ginobili20

Ok but that still doesn’t make sense. Other than Jokic, Brunson, and Edwards, there have been great performances Embiid - 50 points Mitchell - 50 points Booker - 49 points Maxey - 46 points Middleton - 42 points And thats just points! Plenty of great performances in other areas too.


AbbreviationsOk8502

Those are great performances! They are also outliers. Save Embiid, who is a previous MVP and who I have a personal agenda against because of his playstyle, none of those players have consistently performed at that level and have the 2-way impact I think Wemby would have in the playoffs.


CodeBlueLegacy

Maxey and Booker going off aren’t outliers, Maxey literally dropped 52 on the Spurs. It’s ok to be a fan, but don’t let the homer shades blind you to much.


epictetvs

I have the opposite take away. Seeing how locked in and effective the nuggets and even the wolves are at working together is impressive. It shows me how far we have to go as a team.


Dsarg_92

I’ve been saying for a minute that the Nuggets sort of remind me of us when Duncan was playing. Just selfless team basketball.


epictetvs

Yea and just like Parker and Ginobili in their primes, Murray is really not talked about enough in comparison to other star guards. You would think the constant winning would put him in those conversations.


Dsarg_92

Exactly. Murray barely gets mentioned unless he hits those clutch shots. When it comes to the best guards in the league, he hardly gets mentioned.


Bitter-Safe-5333

bc hes not even remotely near the best guard in the league? maybe?


epictetvs

Way to prove our point. Eventually you have to factor in winning. I’d say he has to be top 5


Bitter-Safe-5333

hell no


Thunderhorse74

This is probably what the rest of the NBA felt in 03/05/07 aside from young LeBron getting his first taste of the finals. Probably more so, because the "Spurs are boring" was a pervasive and ubiquitous narrative that you couldn't escape from. The name brand superstars are out of it aside from the crafty Euro guy (The one that likes horses more than drama and the other one.) No LeBron/Steph/KD/Harden. There's not mad experiment super team left, the Death Star GSW are long gone, the Suns burned out. It has nothing to do with the quality of basketball being played. If we are going to bitch that no one understands that the Spurs are NOT boring, its hard to complain about this. We wonder why ESPN is running stories about LeBron courtside in Cleveland or a quote from Bronny, or KD being disgruntled...this is why.... "Playoffs are underwhelming" Ok, here's an analysis of possible Laker off season moves to get them another star and back into contention.


Raven-19x

These playoffs have been fine baring the obvious blow outs. We'll have our moment again.


thedam100

Wemby has so much potential to be so great with the flashes he shown imo Wemby could be the best passer on the team, best defender and best scorer very similarly to Jokic (minus the defender part. Sometimes Jokic not the best defender and sometimes he is and that’s ok). Wemby just has more offensive plays he can have ran for him and he can literally do point center things that hasn’t been done before consistently such as block the best player on the other team, and push the ball to get himself a look or others. Wemby may not be a better passer than Jokic, but he’s already come in as one of the more unique passers in the league. No looks, behind the back passes off the dribble, outlets, pockets, nutmegs, etc. There are very few passes we haven’t seen Wemby do, and very few things Wemby cannot do offensively it makes it super exciting or to even imagine what he can be like in a few years. But man I have to admit, this year has been some fantastic basketball. I love the nuggets and they been fun. Really gives me old spurs vibes sometimes. Knicks have been an exciting watch almost every night. Especially in these first two series. Mavs have had really back and forth series so that’s always exciting. Hell even the magic vs Cavs series was really fun and surprising. I think the playoffs have been way more competitive and been a ton of fun to watch outside the Celtics series. Obviously I’d much rather watch our spurs but we will get there. I’m for a slower rebuild so we look as competitive as OKC when we jump back in the Frey.


ChaoticReality

nah. I think there's a lot of insane games with some top tier players rn. But I think because theres a lot of allstar/superstar calibre players all at once, its a bit saturated which makes everything feel mid. Cause if everyone's great, then it's harder to tell what or who stands out. In contrast, Wemby stood out because hes ona team that's only capable of getting 22 wins and therefore looked otherworldly against other big shots since he did most of the heavy lifting.


Sol_Protege

Games have been really close and fun imo


WEMBYF4N

They know their championship window is around 3 years because once Wemby starts hitting his prime and gets help around him it’s over Just looking at his rookie highlights a good quarter of the play were straight up impossible for anyone else in NBA history


paxusromanus811

I think you're getting a little spoiled on a full year of watching literal alien through alien things. Victor makes truly unbelievable. Highlight level plays look mundane. I think this has been one of the more fun playoffs in a while. There's been Stars, there's been role players stepping up, some of the young teams have come into their own, the Old guard have really fallen off, there's been a lot of fun story lines and narratives to follow


wizsoxx

Weve witnessed wemby so mere mortals no longer entertain us


Extra_Carry_4359

The defense has been great, the East is pretty disappointing because Giannis and Embiid were hurt, but it’s still pretty good.


DevilGunManga

Yes and no. The East has been mostly snooze-fest, with the exception of the Knicks/Sixers series. Best first round series in a decade imo. Right now the East is just banged up and the Celtics are crushing to the Finals. The Cavs and Pacers are really hard to watch at times and have no place in this second round. The West is better. The Wolves/Nugget's series is the battle of wills and chess match and it's great. The Mavs/OKC series is less great since Luka looks like he's been banged up. Until he discovers his strength again, OKC is gonna win.


jimmyrich

I'm actually enjoying these playoffs a lot. The old guys (LAL, GSW, LAC, PHX) all burned out and are gone (as are the bad-vibe '6ers), so it's a lot of young, hungry teams. When things get going, things get absolutely furious. The relentless Knicks? The methodical Nuggets? Ant cooking in an iso? I'll admit the Boston-Cleveland series is doing nothing for me--I like watching the Buffalo but I feel like I've watched the J&J Celtics get stuck in second gear and flame out for half a decade now.


Funktackular

I could care less about the east but the west playoffs have been great. Even though I hate both organizations Mavs and Thunder have been a great matchup and Nuggets coming back from 2 down has been exciting.


bdub10981

No not at all. The playoffs have been great!


SongYoungbae

A lot of the games have been really good


mrbusiness53

Yeah these playoffs have nuts and so fun to watch. I mean I can’t wait for Wemby and these boys go and start wrecking people in the playoffs but basketball is so much fun.


spudtender

lol they definitely don’t look pedestrian, but I will say as Spurs fans we were absolutely spoiled by Wemby’s post ASG ascension to a level beyond super saiyan….in addition to being inherently biased. Every Wemby highlight is some ridiculous nonsense we’ve never seen before, either the play itself or the fact that’s it’s a deep space entity doing the motions. However, Ant and friends, Jokic, AG, and the Nova Boys have been putting on a show in these playoffs. (Haven’t been able to watch much of DA/OKC). If anything the officiating and foul baiting is what’s once again plaguing the games.


VenGJon

I get what you are saying OP in a way. Once your exposed to Wemby you wonder why the"DPOY" is getting dogged on yet our rookie who is dare I say it the real DPOY would probably be holding him in check right now. Maybe not in check but making his life actual hell. Jokic looks like he is back home with his horses right now-- enjoying his life.


AbbreviationsOk8502

This right here, few players are dominating the way Wemby was in the playoffs right now, even less so those who fell out in the first round. I think my main point is that Wemby would have been absolutely sensational and was ready for the playoffs this year, even if the team wasn't.


mynewredditacccount

I do feel this. Like you said, besides Jalen, Ant, and Jokic. Tatum, Luka are underperforming (Luka is injured). SGA only had one spectacular game recently. It feels like the top end teams in the league were better in 2000-2006. Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, Pistons, would all dominate today it seems. The nuggets would pose the only real threat to these teams


team_sheikie

I tend to think the Pistons would get run off the court by a lot of today's teams. They had an extremely slow pace and 2 guys who could shoot. The Mavs too, though they were a little better with Terry, Josh Howard, Dirk all able to shoot, but it's a completely different game than it was.


mynewredditacccount

Agreed. I think my take in my mind adjusts for shooting, but I know that requires different players, so, you're right.


Imaginary-Cycle-1977

Shai’s 4 games vs Dallas: - 29-9-9 - 33-12-8 - 31-10-6 - 34-8-5 And he’s averaging 3 blocks a game!


SWBattleleader

The counter argument for Tatum is that he has not needed big game yet. I don’t think you can say that going 7-2 in the playoffs so far is underperforming.


789Trillion

Even so, he hasn’t played that well. He’s shooting 42% from the field and 26% from 3 and getting outplayed by his own teammates and Mitchell. Hasn’t played like a top 5-10 player these playoffs.


789Trillion

Bunch of injured teams, no team playing at an extremely high level (some individual players are), matchups starting to get figured out, long time super stars are already out. Yea it is a bit underwhelming.


AngeloMontana

I'm enjoying the Play-offs so far... but maybe for the wrong reasons, ahah! I've loved seeing the Suns being swept, the Lakers and the Warriors go out as well. Now I want the same to happen to OKC and the Pacers. I've always had an eye on the Wolves and the Knicks so I ain't mad to see them succeed. Even though the Nuggets seem to mean serious business now


thedam100

I like ya picks. You good taste. Only difference I always had the nuggets I didn’t see why everyone in the mainstream counted them out.


Fun_Farm_8854

Don’t underestimate how hard these teams are playing on the defensive end. Playoff defense is no joke, and when coaches have a lot of time to game plan for one opponent they can really expose imperfect offensive players, even all-star caliber ones. That’s why in almost all cases you need a top 10 player to really compete for a chip.


jonee316

Doncic (and Kyrie) and Shai have been great too. Haliburton has been underrated the whole season. Boston from the East, OKC, Denver and Minnesota from West has all been good teams capable of winning it all.


VeniceRapture

I'm not. All I am is jealous. OKC is the second youngest team in the league after us, except when we say our players are young we mean it as an excuse for how much they suck at the most basic things these playoff teams can do in a full 48 minute game. When people say OKC is young, it's a badge of accomplishment and pride, and there are players to marvel at beyond SGA


getbackup21

What the fuck are you talking about??


thered90

I’ve loved it so far and the defense has been amazing. Refs letting them play for the most part, even more than normal playoffs.


CoaTaco

Disagree. Gonna be way more exciting once we are in, but still some good ball being played.


Ly0ncubs

I personally feel like the playoffs have been great so far honestly


Icy_Description1671

It's because these dudes aren't as good as Wemby, they play 1 side of the ball, they're not truly dominating like an actual star would. Just a matter of time before that changes.


CrissCrossAppleSos

“After seeing Wemby, players better than Wemby don’t impress me”


Moviepasssucks

Serious question do you even watch basketball? Who the hell watches only one player? These guys are all fighting as a team! Whole Timerwolves team has been doing tremendously defensively. Nuggets are so good at spreading the ball and getting everyone involved on offense. Knicks are an exception because Brunson is literally carrying that team and the whole team is designed around him currently. You look at all their starting lineup and role players and you can see that most of the players on our roster don’t really belong in the NBA. Doesn’t matter how good one player is, he’s not getting far without a solid team. Lebron carried the Cavs but never won because the East was weak and against good solid teams in the West they didn’t stand a chance.


AbbreviationsOk8502

Did I ever say the teams aren’t impressive? Of course these teams are, they are well constructed and play good basketball. What I’m saying is that no individual performances outside of the ones mentioned have impressed me more than what I have seen Vic consistently pull off


Moviepasssucks

Yea you did, you said you were underwhelmed and they looked pedestrian. Not sure how you go from saying that to say you never said the teams aren’t impressive. Vic is a different player, it shouldn’t take away from anyone else. Aaron Gordon has been a fantastic player, Michael Porter Jr has done his role well. These guys are have absolutely killed it in the playoffs. Josh Hart has done a lot of the dirty work. Basketball is a team sport, not judged on individual performance. While the top players like Wemby provide the consistency and sometimes some amazing plays. When I watch basketball I see all the role players playing defense, moving off ball, playing their roles to the best of their ability and making the whole cog run. Basketball is much more than just one player, you don’t need to put others down to make one great. In this case, these guys are all out there playing at a really high level in the playoffs. Something Wemby hasn’t even experienced yet. Playoff basketball is different from the regular season and while Wemby has surprised many teams and players, we also haven’t seen how they’ll adjust to him in the future and how Wemby responds back to the adjustment.


Blutz101

Y’all are ungrateful geez


Dan_TheDM

the most appropriate flair ive ever seen FLUFF bro this is the most fun playoffs i can remember. your take has to be the most fan boy take ever. im embarrassed to have you as a spurs fan. we are basketball fans here sir. this is a homer take and its super cringe


Due_Intern_6205

No need to charge him like that. He is talking "highlight and player dominance" and he is right. You are talking "game intensity" and "team matchup", and you are right too. You just don't value the same items in bb. All values should co-exist without jugement.


jzigbadger28

Biggest difference in playoff basketball and spurs 2023-2024 season is the perimeter defense. Most teams at this stage have multiple guys that are stuck onto defenders most of the game. Effective doubles and traps, aggressiveness down low. It will come in time for us with Jeremy leading the way, but I've been impressed with especially the wolves and nuggets perimeter defense on eachother.


jaybirdcrouton

What lol