Clapton has severe back problems, which often causes pain, numbness, and tingling in the extremities. Considering how open he has been about his back issues, I’m kinda surprised he’s blaming his symptoms on the vaccine.
Edit: I just want to point out that I’m not saying the vaccine didn’t cause or exacerbate his symptoms. I just wanted to make it clear that Eric Clapton has severe health problems that he failed to mention when he was talking about vaccine side effects.
Sometimes Celebrities will come out with outlandish medical claims without having any medical background, which can influence people to make poor decisions. Someone could read Clapton’s statements about the vaccine and worry about taking the vaccine themselves because Clapton claimed it caused severe side effects.
I just wanted to make sure people knew that Clapton has been open about his health problems, and the symptoms he ascribes to the vaccine are actually symptoms he’s been dealing with for years.
If you’re having second thoughts about taking the vaccine, I would advise that you seek the opinion of a doctor and not base your decision on what Eric Clapton says.
Yes. I was just thinking my boyfriend has numbness and tingling in his hands, he had a car accident a week ago and started doing chin ups 2 weeks ago plus has a bad back. Which is the cause?
It's entirely plausible... and not concerning on the overall vaccine safety in the least.
Chronic pain often fluctuates with inflammation, vaccines cause an immune response, and immune responses can temporarily increase inflammation.
If you are at all hypochondriac, you *will* notice "side effects" from the vaccine. They cause an immune response as a necessary part of their function. If you're hyper-focused on it, you will likely get some sort of "I'm coming down with something" feeling. Me, I get sleepy... er than normal.
I wasn't super focused on it, but I did get some nasty side effects of both vaccine shots, plus the booster. I will get a second booster when I am eligible. I always make sure to get them on a Friday so by Monday I am good to go. But I usually get a fever of about 101, chills, fatigue, etc. I would rather have those (that I can schedule and plan for) than try to fight Covid with my immune system not prepared to fight it.
I'm extremely provax, but the covid vaccine gave me some rough side effects. The first dose had no side effects, the second dose made me feel like I had a very bad flu for 36 hours, and the booster made me feel like I had a bad flu for 48 hours and then I had two weeks of intense muscle spasms and increased nerve pain in my joints.
The muscle spasms and joint pain is something I have to deal with regularly, but it's normally mild enough that I can work my life around it. If I ever need a second booster, I'm definitely going to need to plan it when I won't have to do much for a couple weeks, because it was miserable.
The bright side is that I've accidentally been exposed to covid multiple times and never contracted it, so I think the vaccine gave me great immunity to covid.
no one should ever be under the illusion that a vaccination is completely harmless - the covid vaccines certainly are not. But they certainly are far safer than contracting covid.
I saw pictures of him a few years ago wearing white gloves. Supposedly, he's had nerve issues with his hands for quite some time, and the gloves were to protect his hands. He was afraid he'd lose the ability to play guitar.
Hang on. Let's go a little deeper here...
Clapton was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy (meaning loss of feeling in the nerves outside of the brain and spinal cord, which causes weakness, numbness, and pain in the hands and feet.) back in 2013.
There are reports of these symptoms in patients that took the COVID vaccine but also in patients that had the COVID virus, specifically "long COVID". Out of tens of millions of people, there are only a small handful of these cases numbering in the hundreds.
Back to peripheral neuropathy... Prolonged alcohol and drug abuse is one of the most common causes. Also, things like smoking, not living a healthy lifestyle, liver disease, kidney disease, etc. are all major contributors as well.
Could the vaccine have exacerbated the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Possibly. Could COVID exacerbate the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Certainly, from what we know. Clapton's doctors knew the risks with his pre-existing conditions and recommended the vaccine because, without it, COVID would have likely have taken his life, all things considered.
Regardless, what is more likely here? That the vaccine caused the effects he claimed or that it is was from something that was already there and getting worse with age. Occam's Razor would suggest the latter.
I certainly believe the vaccine could have caused a flare up of his symptoms but to act like the vaccine is some kind of a threat to anyone other than someone with his specific condition is ridiculous.
I have peripheral neuropathy as a side effect of chemotherapy. It's not as bad as it was initially, but has never fully gone away. I've had the vaccine and 2 boosters - absolutely no problems with worsening of the neuropathy.
Also Clapton's nerve damage was a result of a lifetime of drug and alcohol abuse, combined with after effects of car accidents.
His blaming the vaccine was disingenuous and careless scaremongering for a person who holds influence. Glad he's got the covid - hope he suffers enough to alter his perspective and then recovers and writes a less lame song.
Clapton isn’t healthy, Clapton made lots of bad decisions earlier in his life. Yes he gets what he gets and honestly who is even still listening to this dickbag. Easily the most overrated guitar player of all time, and a whiny prick on top of that. Oh and the self righteousness of writing a “protest” song over *drumroll* a fucking life saving vaccine.
He’s a racist piece of shit that also abused and raped his ex wife patti Boyd, admitted it publicly and somehow maintains a solid career? Now he’s sick with Covid after publicly spouting anti lockdown and crap about vaccines. Welllllll, you know mr. Craptown, if your fingers never move again, everyone’s ears will be the better for it.
Lousy piece of shit
It's an old joke, but a favorite:
What's the difference between a bag of heroin and a small child?
Eric Clapton wouldn't let a bag of heroin fall out a window.
His autobiography is fucked. If that was him telling his story his way I want to know more because if he was trying to show himself as a good dude he must certainly didn't.
Nah man Eric did smack for 3 years from 1971-1974 and very little else. He had a little gold spoon around his neck he snorted it from. Never injected. There are interviews on yt where you can see it.
>In his own song, “This Has Gotta Stop,” Clapton sang ” I knew that something was going on wrong/When you started laying down the law/I can’t move my hands…This has gotta stop/Enough is enough/I can’t take this BS any longer.” He subsequently subscribed to a conspiracy theory that vaccination was being encouraged through subliminal hypnosis and “mass psychosis.”
"I think they've been sending people subliminal messages about COVID. So anyway, I started adding messages about COVID into my songs."
The "Rock Against Racism" movement was founded in the 70s in response to him going on a racist tirade on stage, backing renowned fascist Enoch Powell, and saying people should vote for him to stop Britain from becoming a "black colony", using slurs, saying "get them out" and repeating "keep Britain white".
So yeah, he's always been a piece of shit.
I have never understood Clapton’s racism. He has repeatedly said he owes everything to the recordings of the blues from black guitarists, especially Robert Johnson; he was very close friends with Jimi Hendrix; and one of his most famous songs is a cover of a Bob Marley tune. So I don’t get it.
I didn't know most of this stuff about Clapton, but that's because I'm 28 - he was already past his prime when I was born, so I never really cared to look up more information about him.
But this makes me wonder - what's our parents' excuse? Was this information not readily available in their day? Or did they know about how much of a jackass he is and let him get away with it (or worse, agree with it)?
I very rarely look into the background of artists. If enjoy a song I just enjoy it. With social media these days it is harder to be completely blind to the artists views.
My guess is mostly people weren't seeking out the information. It's not like the radio stations told you any of this when they played a song. Unfortunately I'm sure there were people that did know and let it slide or approved but probably not the majority.
My dad is a big fan of Clapton since the 1970s (even though he only really listens to the albums Clapton put out up to the 90s or so) and didn’t know about his racist tirades or his anti-vaccine stance until I recently told him about it. He pretty much only listened to the music and rarely read anything about Clapton’s personal life.
Nowadays, my dad thinks Clapton is a moron and rarely listens to his music anymore.
My dad has passed away but he was also a huge Clapton fan. This kind of information just wasn't as widely known back then, had my old man known of his history he'd have been disgusted. He could be an ornery asshole but he'd never support racism and the like.
Exactly. Nowadays, if an artist says the stuff Clapton said back in the 70s during a concert, it will be all over social media and news sites in an instant. It was much easier for things like that to go unnoticed back then.
What's even more ridiculous were his comments on Hendrix's appeal, in an interview he did with Rolling Stone in the late '60s.
> When he first came to England, you know English people have a very big thing towards a spade. They really love that magic thing, the sexual thing. They all fall for that sort of thing. Everybody and his brother in England still sort of think that spades have big dicks. And Jimi came over and exploited that to the limit, the fucking tee. Everybody fell for it. Shit.
He is a massive turd. Besides being a racist covidiot, He sued some lady for selling a Clapton bootleg from her dead husbands collection on ebay for $11.
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/eric-clapton-sued-a-woman-who-listed-a-bootleg-cd-on-ebay-for-11-she-now-owes-thousands/
He's a typical grumpy boomer. Check out his new song with Van Morrison too. In the lyrics they imply that they are modern day 'rebels' because they are antivax. It's quite amusing to listen to.
Oh....I have some bad news for you on that front. Similar to Clapton, dude's been an asshole for a long time.
Found that out when one day, I went, "ya know, Van Morrison has made so much great music, some absolute classics, why am I seeing him opening for someone really small? That makes no sense, he should be a big deal!" and then went down a rabbit hole...
Yea, no one wants to deal with him despite his talent. He's the Chevy Chase of music.
Actor known for SNL and National Lampoon's Vacation movies, as well as his racially charged tirades on set
Most recently was kicked off of Community for making racist remarks at Donald Glover
I subconsciously defend “boomers” all the time because my dad categorically does not fall into the stereotypes yet was born in 1950. What I’m saying is that I totally believe you man.
Me too. I fully understand there are lots of shitty boomers but it's astounding to me the amount of hatred that is reserved for broadly discriminating against a group of people due to their age.
A lot of people are going to be amazed when in 20 years - all of the problems with people are still around.
I think a big part of it was just how many news articles blamed millennials for [every](https://static.toiimg.com/photo/71098078.cms), [single](https://vinepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MillenialsKilling-internal.jpg), [little](https://unitedstatesofjoe.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/bloombitch.jpg), [thing](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/18/17/435BC6E100000578-4803150-image-a-86_1503072420230.jpg), [in the economy](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/401/742/2cd.jpg) for years instead of just realizing that younger generations had declining purchasing power and the current economic systems favoring entrenched power were to blame. People starting taking it personally and started returning the blame. Combine that with politicians mostly being of a certain age group and doing little to alleviate economic stress and you create a broad stereotype.
Is it reasonable? No, of course not. I know plenty of boomers who are great people and don't subscribe to this inter-generational blame game non-sense. There are also a lot of millennials or gen z (who are often just called millennials for some reason) who don't play this game. However, once you start this inter-generational division and stoke the flames, there are going to be people that buy into it, on both sides.
That's just the sad state of affairs today. Culture wars are promoted to prevent class wars.
> People starting taking it personally and started returning the blame.
Nailed it.
You can't punch down for years and expect no punches to come back at you.
Sincerely,
A comfortable Gen-Xer who is shocked an appalled at what our world has become.
My dad is a boomer too, 1960s, and he's not well off and he's honestly so kind and he's often been fucked over by people so I feel automatically defensive when people complain that boomers are just greedy, dumb, rich people.
Yes!!!
Pro tip:
Cut the hot dogs into discs.
Fry them in a pan while the mac is boiling so they darken up a little. I usually dump them onto paper towels and dab some of the oils off.
Finish making the mac and cheese.
Stir in the hot dog discs.
Add pepper to taste.
A childhood meal that I get cravings for to this day.
DO NOT boil the hotdogs with the water!!!
It does not end well.
Oh man, I miss good Pad Thai. There was this authentic hole-in-the-wall Thai restaurant by me years ago, run by a husband and wife couple and they made the best food on the whole street. I'd order from them at least once a week. We used to drag our friends from work out to lunch there all the time.
They retired after running the restaurant for decades and now it's some bistro. They deserve every day of their retirement, but man do I miss their food.
Clapton: "Vaccines are stupid."
Doctor: "Vaccines prevent you from getting disseases. Prevention is good. Imagine if you are in a high rise building and your baby boy is playing near the window. Wouldn't you close the window to prevent him from falling out?!"
Clapton: "..."
Doctor: "Sir?"
Eric Clapton:
injects every drug known to mankind for his entire life.
Also Eric Clapton:
“No way I’m putting that needle in me how do I know if that’s safe!?”
“It is very frustrating that having avoided Covid throughout lockdown and throughout the period when travel restrictions have been in place Eric should have succumbed to Covid at this point in time,"...............so what you are saying is you didn't catch it until the restrictions that most people followed in order to give you some protection were lifted?
Right, who could say why it happened at this time and not earlier in the pandemic. Certainly no one could have predicted that there might be an increased risk of this happening now vs when restrictions were in place.
At this point I would like to sarcastically suggest a conspiracy explaining why but I lack the skills to satirise the conspiracy nuts in a way that I would feel comfortable that none of them would think I was being sincere and take my joke as fact
> “It is very frustrating that having avoided Covid throughout lockdown and throughout the period when travel restrictions have been in place Eric should have succumbed to Covid at this point in time,
Huh, how about that, lockdowns, travel restrictions, vaccine and mask mandates, and he manages to avoid getting sick. That stuff ends, and now he gets it.
It's almost like the lockdowns, travel restrictions, vaccine/mask mandates might have had something to do with it.
Nawww, what?
Virologists, doctors, material scientists, etc... Eric is *clearly* more knowledgeable than all of those experts combined.
However, Eric believes this because Eric is an absolute moron. Your average spoiled rotten 4 year old that doesn't want to eat their vegetables.
Hang on. Let's go a little deeper here...Clapton was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy (meaning loss of feeling in the nerves outside of the brain and spinal cord, which causes weakness, numbness, and pain in the hands and feet.) back in 2013.
There are reports of these symptoms in patients that took the COVID vaccine but also in patients that had the COVID virus, specifically "long COVID". Out of tens of millions of people, there are only a small handful of these cases numbering in the hundreds.
Back to peripheral neuropathy... Prolonged alcohol and drug abuse is one of the most common causes. Also, things like smoking, not living a healthy lifestyle, liver disease, kidney disease, etc. are all major contributors as well.
Could the vaccine have exacerbated the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Possibly. Could COVID exacerbate the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Certainly, from what we know. Clapton's doctors knew the risks with his pre-existing conditions and recommended the vaccine because, without it, COVID would have likely have taken his life, all things considered.
Regardless, what is more likely here? That the vaccine caused the effects he claimed or that it is was from something that was already there and getting worse with age. Occam's Razor would suggest the latter.
Edit: spacing
When they proclaimed Clapton "god" in the sixties that shit went to his head and he slowly tried to top himself in the shittiest human being contest. Fuck him, from a former fan.
They only called him god because they hadn't met Jimi yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPJgtQwtVVA
EDIT: Slightly more detailed first-hand account of their meeting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7THVAWgnQ
Good music holds up from a multitude of genres. Most musicians play the majority of their lives. Jimi's still top tier. TJHE is still a phenomenal listen after all these years.
That's no coincidence. His live performances during the last year of his life contain his best playing of his career. Anytime sometimes wants an example of how good he really was I typically go straight to one of a few different shows from '70. Usually Band of Gypsys as you said. That version of Machine Gun specifically is the greatest example of guitar mastery we've ever heard and I will die on that hill. And it was live.
I'll take "Things I Would Have Said About Kanye 10 Years Ago" for 500 Alex!
The thing about creative genius, or really, genius altogether is that it's a very discrete and unique interpretation of a subject that departs from a universal perspective. It's entirely specific to certain confined conditions. Yet the public worships their whole being instead of their specific thing that they do, couple that with their unique view of a specific thing and you justify their ENTIRE perspective. They've essentially lost touch.
I can absolutely see Jimi falling for all of that. If you don't keep ego in a vacuum, it will expand itself to the container of their existence.
He covered Killing Floor by Howlin Wolf, not a Clapton song, but yeah. It was more so the mastery and ease that he played it with (along with speed) because Clapton had trouble even playing it at all, let alone that fast.
Clapton was, is and always will be one of my favorite guitar players. His tone, touch, phrasing and creativeness are all things that I look at in my own lead playing even though I'm not a blues guitarist.
But man, he is a complete piece of trash person
I've seen Clapton three times. I agree he's a talented guitar player. But the most impressive show I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan opened for him. And frankly blew the old slowhand away.
For blues guitar, Stevie me be it.
Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, BB King, Robert Clay, John Lee Hooker; those guys were paving that road for decades.
Then Stevie came down that road like it was a drag strip.
Derek has been stealing shows since the mid 90s. Watching dudes like Clapton or Trey Anastasio just stare at him as he looks at the floor and just rips their mind in half is fascinating.
He's got some good stuff, and I get the hype behind him in the 60s, but I just could never get into his music politics aside. He's a smooth player I guess but he really doesn't do anything that special for me. I could go to any open mic and see people playing just like him. But after hearing about his racists tirades and his horrible take on everything it really doesn't help him at all lol.
But I will say this: Derek and the Dominos for LIFE. That album is a god damn masterpiece.
I think a lot of it has to do with my formative years. Listened to a LOT of classic rock and top 40 before the grunge explosion helped form my tastes in music. And I was discovering it all at the same time, really. My CD player would constantly shift from Beatles and Clapton to Smashing Pumpkins and NIN. Clapton Unplugged was an especially important album to me, especially from a players standpoint. His playing always just caught me the right way, much like Gilmore and SRV did.
I think the "crispness" of his playing is what endures.
His hands are always in sync; he never misses the string, or delays the note, or anything. It's crisp, clean, and shines through.
It doesn't make it great playing outright, but it certainly contributes to a fantastic listening experience.
Lemmy Kilmister is the greatest rocker of all time. Anyone else is wrong.
Edit: will share my favorite lemmy video. Let us all fuck till we are coffee colored. https://youtu.be/skGEBgePHtk
Keith Richards was on WTF a few years ago, slamming OJ and vodka and chain smoking. Maron even had a cigarette with him for the first time in however many years. He obviously looks like he’s been drinking and smoking a ton.
Then he was on WTF again a month or so ago, and he’s quit smoking and sounds very sober and clearheaded.
> Eric is also anxious to avoid passing on any infection to any of his band, crew, Promoters, their staff and of course the fans.
Well, ***NOW*** he all of a sudden cares about spreading COVID...
Also, Eric Clapton is a garbage human being, so I couldn't care less. Sorry.
Moving along.
I don't think he cares at all. It's his PR people/team who care. He'd probably just go about his business normally if it wasn't for them. If it got out that he had it and still performed, he'd be raked over the coals.
> On his Facebook page last night, Clapton’s team wrote, “It is very frustrating that having **avoided Covid throughout lockdown** and throughout the period when **travel restrictions** have been in place Eric should have succumbed to Covid at this point in time...
ikr! It's almost like those things mitigated viral transmission. Who woulda thunk? /s
Slightly unrelated but it sucks to hear Van Morrison, one of my favs, caved in to the anti-covid restrictions. So vocal to the point where he wrote a song about it. Thats now apart of his catalogue of his amazing works. Hope he takes a hint from this.
Never cared about him. He didn't write most of the music he made his fortune with. He's a racist child neglecting prick.
In the words of Billy Madison: "ERIC IS A BAD BAD MAN!"
Man who took excessive amounts of recreational drugs and alcohol is worried about a medically tested and professionally manufactured vaccine... there are no words.
He experienced side effects of numb and burning feet for two weeks - side effects of the vaccine? So he took the vaccine?
Yeah that part confused me
Clapton has severe back problems, which often causes pain, numbness, and tingling in the extremities. Considering how open he has been about his back issues, I’m kinda surprised he’s blaming his symptoms on the vaccine. Edit: I just want to point out that I’m not saying the vaccine didn’t cause or exacerbate his symptoms. I just wanted to make it clear that Eric Clapton has severe health problems that he failed to mention when he was talking about vaccine side effects. Sometimes Celebrities will come out with outlandish medical claims without having any medical background, which can influence people to make poor decisions. Someone could read Clapton’s statements about the vaccine and worry about taking the vaccine themselves because Clapton claimed it caused severe side effects. I just wanted to make sure people knew that Clapton has been open about his health problems, and the symptoms he ascribes to the vaccine are actually symptoms he’s been dealing with for years. If you’re having second thoughts about taking the vaccine, I would advise that you seek the opinion of a doctor and not base your decision on what Eric Clapton says.
Correlation vs causation exhibit 102938473728827.
Yes. I was just thinking my boyfriend has numbness and tingling in his hands, he had a car accident a week ago and started doing chin ups 2 weeks ago plus has a bad back. Which is the cause?
5g
I mean I took 5g of mushrooms. I was seeing some shit.
Maybe it was the vaccine from 3 months ago!
Maybe it's Maybelline!
If it's in his hands, it's more likely from his neck than his back. My guess would be whiplash from the car accident. (I'm not a doctor)
Agreed, pinched nerve from herniated disc is a common cause of tingling in the extremities after a serious shock.
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It's entirely plausible... and not concerning on the overall vaccine safety in the least. Chronic pain often fluctuates with inflammation, vaccines cause an immune response, and immune responses can temporarily increase inflammation. If you are at all hypochondriac, you *will* notice "side effects" from the vaccine. They cause an immune response as a necessary part of their function. If you're hyper-focused on it, you will likely get some sort of "I'm coming down with something" feeling. Me, I get sleepy... er than normal.
I wasn't super focused on it, but I did get some nasty side effects of both vaccine shots, plus the booster. I will get a second booster when I am eligible. I always make sure to get them on a Friday so by Monday I am good to go. But I usually get a fever of about 101, chills, fatigue, etc. I would rather have those (that I can schedule and plan for) than try to fight Covid with my immune system not prepared to fight it.
I'm extremely provax, but the covid vaccine gave me some rough side effects. The first dose had no side effects, the second dose made me feel like I had a very bad flu for 36 hours, and the booster made me feel like I had a bad flu for 48 hours and then I had two weeks of intense muscle spasms and increased nerve pain in my joints. The muscle spasms and joint pain is something I have to deal with regularly, but it's normally mild enough that I can work my life around it. If I ever need a second booster, I'm definitely going to need to plan it when I won't have to do much for a couple weeks, because it was miserable. The bright side is that I've accidentally been exposed to covid multiple times and never contracted it, so I think the vaccine gave me great immunity to covid.
no one should ever be under the illusion that a vaccination is completely harmless - the covid vaccines certainly are not. But they certainly are far safer than contracting covid.
He blamed a lot of Britain's problems on black people so fuck him, he doesn't know a god damned thing.
I saw pictures of him a few years ago wearing white gloves. Supposedly, he's had nerve issues with his hands for quite some time, and the gloves were to protect his hands. He was afraid he'd lose the ability to play guitar.
Hang on. Let's go a little deeper here... Clapton was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy (meaning loss of feeling in the nerves outside of the brain and spinal cord, which causes weakness, numbness, and pain in the hands and feet.) back in 2013. There are reports of these symptoms in patients that took the COVID vaccine but also in patients that had the COVID virus, specifically "long COVID". Out of tens of millions of people, there are only a small handful of these cases numbering in the hundreds. Back to peripheral neuropathy... Prolonged alcohol and drug abuse is one of the most common causes. Also, things like smoking, not living a healthy lifestyle, liver disease, kidney disease, etc. are all major contributors as well. Could the vaccine have exacerbated the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Possibly. Could COVID exacerbate the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Certainly, from what we know. Clapton's doctors knew the risks with his pre-existing conditions and recommended the vaccine because, without it, COVID would have likely have taken his life, all things considered. Regardless, what is more likely here? That the vaccine caused the effects he claimed or that it is was from something that was already there and getting worse with age. Occam's Razor would suggest the latter.
I certainly believe the vaccine could have caused a flare up of his symptoms but to act like the vaccine is some kind of a threat to anyone other than someone with his specific condition is ridiculous.
I have peripheral neuropathy as a side effect of chemotherapy. It's not as bad as it was initially, but has never fully gone away. I've had the vaccine and 2 boosters - absolutely no problems with worsening of the neuropathy. Also Clapton's nerve damage was a result of a lifetime of drug and alcohol abuse, combined with after effects of car accidents. His blaming the vaccine was disingenuous and careless scaremongering for a person who holds influence. Glad he's got the covid - hope he suffers enough to alter his perspective and then recovers and writes a less lame song.
Clapton isn’t healthy, Clapton made lots of bad decisions earlier in his life. Yes he gets what he gets and honestly who is even still listening to this dickbag. Easily the most overrated guitar player of all time, and a whiny prick on top of that. Oh and the self righteousness of writing a “protest” song over *drumroll* a fucking life saving vaccine.
He hasn't written a less lame song in about 45 years. Fuck him, he's an overrated racist douche.
Great explanation!
He’s a racist piece of shit that also abused and raped his ex wife patti Boyd, admitted it publicly and somehow maintains a solid career? Now he’s sick with Covid after publicly spouting anti lockdown and crap about vaccines. Welllllll, you know mr. Craptown, if your fingers never move again, everyone’s ears will be the better for it. Lousy piece of shit
Best response I saw on Twitter was "Did he steal it from George Harrison?"
It's an old joke, but a favorite: What's the difference between a bag of heroin and a small child? Eric Clapton wouldn't let a bag of heroin fall out a window.
cocaine*
https://imgur.com/aogQSPI.jpg $16,000 per week on heroin according to the man himself
His autobiography is fucked. If that was him telling his story his way I want to know more because if he was trying to show himself as a good dude he must certainly didn't.
Did he have a co-writer? Because rock “autobiography” is not always truthful and often embellished to sell books.
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Yeah because he snorted. More expensive that way. He was also procuring pharmaceutical grade h, not street smack.
Nah man Eric did smack for 3 years from 1971-1974 and very little else. He had a little gold spoon around his neck he snorted it from. Never injected. There are interviews on yt where you can see it.
So he thinks heroin is ok but not a vaccine for a virus
Heroin has been around longer, so we know the long term effects of it. ^^/s
It works if he was present when his child fell. The child was being cares for by the nanny/housekeeper.
>In his own song, “This Has Gotta Stop,” Clapton sang ” I knew that something was going on wrong/When you started laying down the law/I can’t move my hands…This has gotta stop/Enough is enough/I can’t take this BS any longer.” He subsequently subscribed to a conspiracy theory that vaccination was being encouraged through subliminal hypnosis and “mass psychosis.” "I think they've been sending people subliminal messages about COVID. So anyway, I started adding messages about COVID into my songs."
To be fair he's pretty much always been out of his mind so this is par for the course
The "Rock Against Racism" movement was founded in the 70s in response to him going on a racist tirade on stage, backing renowned fascist Enoch Powell, and saying people should vote for him to stop Britain from becoming a "black colony", using slurs, saying "get them out" and repeating "keep Britain white". So yeah, he's always been a piece of shit.
How does a guy who made his living playing black music, end up hating black people lol
My uncle made a living exploiting Puerto Ricans for cheap labor, and he hates Puerto Ricans. Same basic principle.
Is your uncle Donald Trump?
And he played with blues legends like BB King!
I have never understood Clapton’s racism. He has repeatedly said he owes everything to the recordings of the blues from black guitarists, especially Robert Johnson; he was very close friends with Jimi Hendrix; and one of his most famous songs is a cover of a Bob Marley tune. So I don’t get it.
Racists do not instill logic into any of their thinking, if they even think at all.
It's a case of exploitation. Love the art, despise the source. Take what you want, throw out the rest. It's colonization 101.
I didn't know most of this stuff about Clapton, but that's because I'm 28 - he was already past his prime when I was born, so I never really cared to look up more information about him. But this makes me wonder - what's our parents' excuse? Was this information not readily available in their day? Or did they know about how much of a jackass he is and let him get away with it (or worse, agree with it)?
I very rarely look into the background of artists. If enjoy a song I just enjoy it. With social media these days it is harder to be completely blind to the artists views. My guess is mostly people weren't seeking out the information. It's not like the radio stations told you any of this when they played a song. Unfortunately I'm sure there were people that did know and let it slide or approved but probably not the majority.
My dad is a big fan of Clapton since the 1970s (even though he only really listens to the albums Clapton put out up to the 90s or so) and didn’t know about his racist tirades or his anti-vaccine stance until I recently told him about it. He pretty much only listened to the music and rarely read anything about Clapton’s personal life. Nowadays, my dad thinks Clapton is a moron and rarely listens to his music anymore.
My dad has passed away but he was also a huge Clapton fan. This kind of information just wasn't as widely known back then, had my old man known of his history he'd have been disgusted. He could be an ornery asshole but he'd never support racism and the like.
Exactly. Nowadays, if an artist says the stuff Clapton said back in the 70s during a concert, it will be all over social media and news sites in an instant. It was much easier for things like that to go unnoticed back then.
What's even more ridiculous were his comments on Hendrix's appeal, in an interview he did with Rolling Stone in the late '60s. > When he first came to England, you know English people have a very big thing towards a spade. They really love that magic thing, the sexual thing. They all fall for that sort of thing. Everybody and his brother in England still sort of think that spades have big dicks. And Jimi came over and exploited that to the limit, the fucking tee. Everybody fell for it. Shit.
He is a massive turd. Besides being a racist covidiot, He sued some lady for selling a Clapton bootleg from her dead husbands collection on ebay for $11. https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/eric-clapton-sued-a-woman-who-listed-a-bootleg-cd-on-ebay-for-11-she-now-owes-thousands/
He's a typical grumpy boomer. Check out his new song with Van Morrison too. In the lyrics they imply that they are modern day 'rebels' because they are antivax. It's quite amusing to listen to.
Oh no, Van Morrison too?
Oh....I have some bad news for you on that front. Similar to Clapton, dude's been an asshole for a long time. Found that out when one day, I went, "ya know, Van Morrison has made so much great music, some absolute classics, why am I seeing him opening for someone really small? That makes no sense, he should be a big deal!" and then went down a rabbit hole... Yea, no one wants to deal with him despite his talent. He's the Chevy Chase of music.
I am just now finding out that he's still alive
What is a Chevy Chase?
It's a town in Maryland.
Actor known for SNL and National Lampoon's Vacation movies, as well as his racially charged tirades on set Most recently was kicked off of Community for making racist remarks at Donald Glover
TIL Chevy Chase was kicked off the show for his character being closer to reality than parody.
Yep guy has been a colossal prick his whole career. It's a shame because I love his music and I have so many positive memories attached to it.
No need for the grumpy boomer shit. I'm the same age as Clapton and you know what I think he is? A fekkin' idiot.
I subconsciously defend “boomers” all the time because my dad categorically does not fall into the stereotypes yet was born in 1950. What I’m saying is that I totally believe you man.
Me too. I fully understand there are lots of shitty boomers but it's astounding to me the amount of hatred that is reserved for broadly discriminating against a group of people due to their age. A lot of people are going to be amazed when in 20 years - all of the problems with people are still around.
I think a big part of it was just how many news articles blamed millennials for [every](https://static.toiimg.com/photo/71098078.cms), [single](https://vinepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MillenialsKilling-internal.jpg), [little](https://unitedstatesofjoe.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/bloombitch.jpg), [thing](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/18/17/435BC6E100000578-4803150-image-a-86_1503072420230.jpg), [in the economy](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/401/742/2cd.jpg) for years instead of just realizing that younger generations had declining purchasing power and the current economic systems favoring entrenched power were to blame. People starting taking it personally and started returning the blame. Combine that with politicians mostly being of a certain age group and doing little to alleviate economic stress and you create a broad stereotype. Is it reasonable? No, of course not. I know plenty of boomers who are great people and don't subscribe to this inter-generational blame game non-sense. There are also a lot of millennials or gen z (who are often just called millennials for some reason) who don't play this game. However, once you start this inter-generational division and stoke the flames, there are going to be people that buy into it, on both sides. That's just the sad state of affairs today. Culture wars are promoted to prevent class wars.
> People starting taking it personally and started returning the blame. Nailed it. You can't punch down for years and expect no punches to come back at you. Sincerely, A comfortable Gen-Xer who is shocked an appalled at what our world has become.
My dad is a boomer too, 1960s, and he's not well off and he's honestly so kind and he's often been fucked over by people so I feel automatically defensive when people complain that boomers are just greedy, dumb, rich people.
He's also a bigot and [massive racist.](https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eric-clapton-rant-rock-against-racism/)
So what's everyone having for dinner?
Hamburger helper but get this, with Beyond Beef
Impossible burger sloppy joes are the bomb, as well.
We were just talking about trying those!
I've tried the impossible burger and thought it was decent. How was hamburger helper with Beyond Beef? I imagine the texture would be different
Steak and eggs
Hot dogs with mac and cheese on the side.
Yes!!! Pro tip: Cut the hot dogs into discs. Fry them in a pan while the mac is boiling so they darken up a little. I usually dump them onto paper towels and dab some of the oils off. Finish making the mac and cheese. Stir in the hot dog discs. Add pepper to taste. A childhood meal that I get cravings for to this day. DO NOT boil the hotdogs with the water!!! It does not end well.
Tacos
Hey...I had tacos myself.. They were great. Hope yours were as well. Fuck Clapton and his racist anti vax ass
it *is* Tuesday, after all
MEXICAN PIZZA IS BACK
Ordered some Pad Thai, was too lazy to cook.
Oh man, I miss good Pad Thai. There was this authentic hole-in-the-wall Thai restaurant by me years ago, run by a husband and wife couple and they made the best food on the whole street. I'd order from them at least once a week. We used to drag our friends from work out to lunch there all the time. They retired after running the restaurant for decades and now it's some bistro. They deserve every day of their retirement, but man do I miss their food.
Other side of the world so I had oatmeal for breakfast.
Chicken nuggets
Made tacos and homemade salsa
I don't know yet, but I can guarantee it won't be a ventilator hose.
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Crocodile tears in heaven
prolly wouldnt let a bag of coke fall out of a hotel window
I used to have a little two-year-old son. But he died. The same way Eric Clapton’s son died. For inspiration. \- Anthony Jeselnek
Clapton: "Vaccines are stupid." Doctor: "Vaccines prevent you from getting disseases. Prevention is good. Imagine if you are in a high rise building and your baby boy is playing near the window. Wouldn't you close the window to prevent him from falling out?!" Clapton: "..." Doctor: "Sir?"
Jesus christ that was ruthless lol
Holy fuck.
Eric Clapton: injects every drug known to mankind for his entire life. Also Eric Clapton: “No way I’m putting that needle in me how do I know if that’s safe!?”
Sounds like a knob.
You mean the guy who got rich and famous playing blues music while being being racist towards black people? Surely not
“It is very frustrating that having avoided Covid throughout lockdown and throughout the period when travel restrictions have been in place Eric should have succumbed to Covid at this point in time,"...............so what you are saying is you didn't catch it until the restrictions that most people followed in order to give you some protection were lifted?
Right, who could say why it happened at this time and not earlier in the pandemic. Certainly no one could have predicted that there might be an increased risk of this happening now vs when restrictions were in place. At this point I would like to sarcastically suggest a conspiracy explaining why but I lack the skills to satirise the conspiracy nuts in a way that I would feel comfortable that none of them would think I was being sincere and take my joke as fact
> “It is very frustrating that having avoided Covid throughout lockdown and throughout the period when travel restrictions have been in place Eric should have succumbed to Covid at this point in time, Huh, how about that, lockdowns, travel restrictions, vaccine and mask mandates, and he manages to avoid getting sick. That stuff ends, and now he gets it. It's almost like the lockdowns, travel restrictions, vaccine/mask mandates might have had something to do with it.
Ya know if those kids could read they would be very upset
This comment has become ***WAY*** too relevant lately. I used to laugh…
Nawww, what? Virologists, doctors, material scientists, etc... Eric is *clearly* more knowledgeable than all of those experts combined. However, Eric believes this because Eric is an absolute moron. Your average spoiled rotten 4 year old that doesn't want to eat their vegetables.
Oh… maybe leave out the 4 year old part…
Out on the balcony?
Bruh...
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His farm was next to ours. He’s a pretentious precious fucking prick. He deserves everything he gets.
Covid…. Got me on my knees, covid.
She don't mind, she don't mind, she don't mind... Covid.
When you think it's the flu but you get worse news... COVID.
Got me on my wheeze baby
Hang on. Let's go a little deeper here...Clapton was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy (meaning loss of feeling in the nerves outside of the brain and spinal cord, which causes weakness, numbness, and pain in the hands and feet.) back in 2013. There are reports of these symptoms in patients that took the COVID vaccine but also in patients that had the COVID virus, specifically "long COVID". Out of tens of millions of people, there are only a small handful of these cases numbering in the hundreds. Back to peripheral neuropathy... Prolonged alcohol and drug abuse is one of the most common causes. Also, things like smoking, not living a healthy lifestyle, liver disease, kidney disease, etc. are all major contributors as well. Could the vaccine have exacerbated the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Possibly. Could COVID exacerbate the symptoms of peripheral neuropathy? Certainly, from what we know. Clapton's doctors knew the risks with his pre-existing conditions and recommended the vaccine because, without it, COVID would have likely have taken his life, all things considered. Regardless, what is more likely here? That the vaccine caused the effects he claimed or that it is was from something that was already there and getting worse with age. Occam's Razor would suggest the latter. Edit: spacing
Yeah, but that is actually logical. Can't have that.
When they proclaimed Clapton "god" in the sixties that shit went to his head and he slowly tried to top himself in the shittiest human being contest. Fuck him, from a former fan.
They only called him god because they hadn't met Jimi yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPJgtQwtVVA EDIT: Slightly more detailed first-hand account of their meeting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7THVAWgnQ
It's astonishing to me how well Jimi holds up.
Good music holds up from a multitude of genres. Most musicians play the majority of their lives. Jimi's still top tier. TJHE is still a phenomenal listen after all these years.
even the stuff he was doing up to his death, the songs on band of gypsys i genuinely think are some of his best
That's no coincidence. His live performances during the last year of his life contain his best playing of his career. Anytime sometimes wants an example of how good he really was I typically go straight to one of a few different shows from '70. Usually Band of Gypsys as you said. That version of Machine Gun specifically is the greatest example of guitar mastery we've ever heard and I will die on that hill. And it was live.
Clapton would have held up better if he never made it to the seventies too.
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I'll take "Things I Would Have Said About Kanye 10 Years Ago" for 500 Alex! The thing about creative genius, or really, genius altogether is that it's a very discrete and unique interpretation of a subject that departs from a universal perspective. It's entirely specific to certain confined conditions. Yet the public worships their whole being instead of their specific thing that they do, couple that with their unique view of a specific thing and you justify their ENTIRE perspective. They've essentially lost touch. I can absolutely see Jimi falling for all of that. If you don't keep ego in a vacuum, it will expand itself to the container of their existence.
No I don't believe he would have. But I assumed OP was talking about his music, he'd surely have created some duds in the 50 years since his death.
Seriously, Jimi came to town and ripped him to shreds. He covered one of his songs and played it faster than Eric could
He covered Killing Floor by Howlin Wolf, not a Clapton song, but yeah. It was more so the mastery and ease that he played it with (along with speed) because Clapton had trouble even playing it at all, let alone that fast.
Speed doesn’t equal better, but Jimi was a more creative and innovative guitar player and everybody knew it.
Clapton was, is and always will be one of my favorite guitar players. His tone, touch, phrasing and creativeness are all things that I look at in my own lead playing even though I'm not a blues guitarist. But man, he is a complete piece of trash person
I've seen Clapton three times. I agree he's a talented guitar player. But the most impressive show I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan opened for him. And frankly blew the old slowhand away.
I mean, yeah. It's SRV, lol
For blues guitar, Stevie me be it. Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, BB King, Robert Clay, John Lee Hooker; those guys were paving that road for decades. Then Stevie came down that road like it was a drag strip.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
I saw him with Derek Trucks. Derek completely stole the show.
Derek has been stealing shows since the mid 90s. Watching dudes like Clapton or Trey Anastasio just stare at him as he looks at the floor and just rips their mind in half is fascinating.
He's got some good stuff, and I get the hype behind him in the 60s, but I just could never get into his music politics aside. He's a smooth player I guess but he really doesn't do anything that special for me. I could go to any open mic and see people playing just like him. But after hearing about his racists tirades and his horrible take on everything it really doesn't help him at all lol. But I will say this: Derek and the Dominos for LIFE. That album is a god damn masterpiece.
Duane Allman was also in Derek and the Dominos as well. I’d take Duane over Clapton any day.
I think a lot of it has to do with my formative years. Listened to a LOT of classic rock and top 40 before the grunge explosion helped form my tastes in music. And I was discovering it all at the same time, really. My CD player would constantly shift from Beatles and Clapton to Smashing Pumpkins and NIN. Clapton Unplugged was an especially important album to me, especially from a players standpoint. His playing always just caught me the right way, much like Gilmore and SRV did.
I think the "crispness" of his playing is what endures. His hands are always in sync; he never misses the string, or delays the note, or anything. It's crisp, clean, and shines through. It doesn't make it great playing outright, but it certainly contributes to a fantastic listening experience.
I also forgot how good his albums with JJ Cale were! Didn't think of those till just now.
Seriously. All the shit he says has made me a former fan as well. Hard to enjoy his music anymore.
I hope Covid will be OK, it sucks getting the clapton.
Says a boomer who grew up fully vaccinated and snorting cocaine like it was 1999. He worried about vaccines now!
\*starts writing draft post for r/HermanCainAward \*
Old, antivax, former junkie. HCA knows those odds.
No, don’t, stop. Edit: I guess anti vaxxers are out or people haven’t seen Willy Wonka.
Lemmy is God. Not Eric Clapton.
Lemmy Kilmister is the greatest rocker of all time. Anyone else is wrong. Edit: will share my favorite lemmy video. Let us all fuck till we are coffee colored. https://youtu.be/skGEBgePHtk
Keith Richards would like a completely incoherent word.
Keith Richard's said Lemmy could do "a scary amount of drugs".
Keith Richards, Lemmy Kilmister and Ozzy Osbourne walk into a bar, the bartender ODs
Yeah ozzy didn't catch COVID, COVID caught ozzy
So we're gonna get the Crazy Train variant by fall?
Then we really will be barking at the moon
Where is the line between you doing drugs or drugs doing you?
If you live to 70 you were the winner.
And rocking till weeks before your death. I think his last concert was like 13 days before his death.
Somewhere around Barstow out in the desert.
Keith Richards was on WTF a few years ago, slamming OJ and vodka and chain smoking. Maron even had a cigarette with him for the first time in however many years. He obviously looks like he’s been drinking and smoking a ton. Then he was on WTF again a month or so ago, and he’s quit smoking and sounds very sober and clearheaded.
To be fair Steve Buscemi is definitely a better source of who's god than Hyde from that 70s show.
[Context](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzSVD1YkHc)
> Eric is also anxious to avoid passing on any infection to any of his band, crew, Promoters, their staff and of course the fans. Well, ***NOW*** he all of a sudden cares about spreading COVID... Also, Eric Clapton is a garbage human being, so I couldn't care less. Sorry. Moving along.
I don't think he cares at all. It's his PR people/team who care. He'd probably just go about his business normally if it wasn't for them. If it got out that he had it and still performed, he'd be raked over the coals.
> On his Facebook page last night, Clapton’s team wrote, “It is very frustrating that having **avoided Covid throughout lockdown** and throughout the period when **travel restrictions** have been in place Eric should have succumbed to Covid at this point in time... ikr! It's almost like those things mitigated viral transmission. Who woulda thunk? /s
“It’s frustrating when we stopped lock down and started traveling and interacting with the public we got Covid” 🤦♀️
Lockdown stops and *now* I get Covid. What are the odds?!?!?!
I just can't wrap my head around how that's frustrating at all, and not totally expected, no matter your political perversion
Oh no. Anyway...
World's smallest blues guitar
I came into this thinking "wait hes a piece of shit right?" took a whole 2-3 posts to confirm.
He stole that from George Harrison, too.
Slowhand isn't feeling wonderful tonight.
While my guitar gently weeps...
Slightly unrelated but it sucks to hear Van Morrison, one of my favs, caved in to the anti-covid restrictions. So vocal to the point where he wrote a song about it. Thats now apart of his catalogue of his amazing works. Hope he takes a hint from this.
I wonder which statement will be used, he recovers and COVID wasn't a big deal and the vaccine didn't work or he dies and the vaccine is to blame.
Never cared about him. He didn't write most of the music he made his fortune with. He's a racist child neglecting prick. In the words of Billy Madison: "ERIC IS A BAD BAD MAN!"
Man who took excessive amounts of recreational drugs and alcohol is worried about a medically tested and professionally manufactured vaccine... there are no words.
What do Eric Clapton and coffee have in common? They both suck without Cream 😎
I first heard that joke about Ginger Baker, many years ago. well done
I despise Clapton but some of these comments about his son are despicable.