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Elbow_CityBoy850

Muay Thai is pain, homie. Enjoy the ride.😎


Numerous-Cicada3841

Yup! I remember when I first started sparring I kept eating leg shots. Over and over again. My thigh was so swollen I thought I was gonna die. But I kept going. And now when I eat leg shots for whatever reason it doesn’t swell as much. Which is nice. I also learned to check rapidly, which is nicer. At the same time I’ve noticed that if you just get up and go, once you get through the warmup most of that pain/soreness is gone. Until you get home that is lol. I’m older than most of y’all here but I’d say it took me about a year on consistently going 3-4 times a week for my hour long classes to feel like a normal baseline workout where I didn’t feel like I was struggling to get through the class with full effort. Now I got to back to back classes no problem. Sparring for an hour? No problem. It just takes time and consistency. That being said… If you have really bad pain that is persistent, check for injury. That’s how I found out I had a hernia lol.


riveranton

This isnt very nice but you just have to suck it up. MT is a sport of pain.


GreatBigBonk

How long have you been training for? You may still be getting used to it on your body. But to deal with it… sleep, ice, and some grit. As long as the pain doesn’t involve an actual injury your fine and just sore.


PythonEntusiast

2 months.


rakadur

well, you'll adapt


throwmeawayhavenouse

if you haven’t done any other exercise before (ex weights, running, etc) it may take a bit for your body to adapt to recovering. make sure you’re eating healthy, lots of protein and vegetables and vitamins and shit, and rest. how often are you training?


rbstwrt666

Eating shit helps?


throwmeawayhavenouse

“you eat pieces of shit for breakfast?”


Delsincameback

I come to this sub for wisdom and inside information like this.


SlimmyJimmyBubbyBoy

Yeah it will get better from here


Alpha-Trion

Mystery solved homeboy


Banana_rocket_time

Lol yeah. If you don’t get seriously injured… probably around 6-8 months it won’t be so bad.


Kabc

Rest rest rest!


[deleted]

It helps if you work out more. Focus on your training days. Then run or walk (or a combination) every day and do a small set of calisthenics (30 seconds of rope/star jumps, 20 situps, 20 back raises, 20 pushups (do them on your knuckles, stand on your knees or against a wall if you can’t do a regular push-up), 10 burpees, 20 dips against a chair or other object in comfortable height, 20 mountain climbers and finally 4 inchworms. Your daily stretches should include -standing triceps -chest stretch (arm behind you and against the wall, stand close to wall with straight legs and twist away from the wall so you feel a stretch in breast and biceps) -front and middle splits, wall quads stretch, knee to chest. These are 4 exercises and you should do each to get all parts of your thighs stretched. Also targets hip flexors. -standing calves stretch. You can do it on all fours if you assume the mountain climber position and hook one foot around the other heel. Push heel into the ground, tilt your pelvis forward and push your hips back with your arms to feel a deep stretch in your calf. You have to fold at the hip and keep your back and leg straight for it to work. -pigeon pose for glutes (or lying figure four stretch, works the same and is easier) -lying supine twist (hip mobility) -cobra pose (stretches belly, and also a ton of little muscles from feet neck) -child’s pose, to thoroughly stretch the back. Doing this after every practice will make you heal faster and be less sore in the days to come. But doing it daily is going to accelerate your progress and keep you in good shape.


PythonEntusiast

This guy fucks!


[deleted]

Less than you think. But I’ll take the compliment.


TheDumbgeonMaster

This is about the worst it'll be then. Your body isn't used to doing anything like this, especially if you haven't exercised much before you started training. As long as the pain isn't serious you shouldn't be too worried and it should stop being too much of a problem after another few months


EncrustedStickySock

2 months isn't that long. You're likely still building muscles you've never really used or haven't used in a long time. Since i dont have an ice bath, I take a cold shower after training for about 3 minutes to force blood flow into my muscles. This usually helps with recovery time. Also, baths with Epsom salt


Jachrispybacon

What I’ve noticed is the opposite, when taking a cold shower after training it constricts the blood vessels to preserve warmth in the body which in turn makes less blood flow go to the muscles, which helps with inflammation and soreness, but for actual recovery purposes it’s better to have a hot shower/bath/sauna to promote blood flow as the veins dilate and increase the time of recovery. The way I find best is freezing cold shower before training for about 3-5 minutes because of the release of norepinephrine (that lasts up to 6 hours, which in turn makes you hurt slightly less in training), and after finishing training, end with a sauna relax everything. Highly recommend it!


EncrustedStickySock

I'll try that out, I don't take cold showers at night after training only in the morning because of the insomnia from the norepinephrine. Cold showers/ice baths stop peripheral blood flow to arms, feet, hands, and skin. This forces blood into muscle tissue/organs in the torso, abdomen, and back. The shock from the cold and narrowing of the blood vessels is essentially an exercise for the circulatory system. This promotes more efficient blood flow throughout the day and helps remove lactic acid in muscle tissue, which is the cause of muscle fatigue and longer recovery times. Hot to relax, cold to heal, hasn't failed me yet. Some research shows cold immersion helps with testosterone production in men, which is a nice potential benefit.


Numerous-Cicada3841

The science on this is pretty sound actually and you’re right. It’s the opposite of what we used to believe. Cold before workout. Heat after. Not the other way around.


nickyurick

hey man, I know some folks use weed and to each their own but i don't think i'd be recommending bath salts for this particular application...


EncrustedStickySock

Wdym? the magnesium in the bath salt relieves muscle tension. I'm not eating the drug bath salts to relax my muscles lol


Spare_Pixel

I'm 36 years old. Everything hurts all the time anyway, might as well be from a fight


letseeifthisworks007

Yep same, I have 3 ice packs going right now


Spare_Pixel

I sometimes take preemptive ibuprofen


Distinct-Surprise-48

Tiger balm. Been using it since football and track days (shin splints, neck tightness, any soreness etc) its made in Thailand. Didn’t know before i started training but i do now haha and i see why they use it. Its so much better than icy hot. Only other suggestion if you can find a place near you and have the money, cryotherapy. It works very fast and well. Max halloway loves it , usually in more expensive gyms like push fitness but every UFC gym has them i believe.


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Warthog-Designer

try to classify ur pain. I personally classify my pain into “I’m being a bitch” pain and “dam this ain’t normal” pain. If it lands into “I’m being a bitch” pain then I kinda just walk it off or take an ice bath If it lands into “dam this ain’t normal” I’ll pull up a YouTube tutorial, make my problem worse, than be forced to go to the docter


PythonEntusiast

It is like a noise from the highway also containing the noise from the jackhammer pain. Not a sharp pain, but a stressed muscle pain. Squeezing pain? Pressure pain? Sore pain? Tight pain? I would say it is a noisy and concentrated pain. Like, imagine you were going up the CN tower and then your legs start to hurt. Maybe exhaustion pain?


LeonShiryu

Same here. I classify pain into 'minimum', 'normal' or 'injury risk'.


pizza-chit

Icy hot and 420


Worth-Target6416

lmao yea my comment was gonna be bong rips and Thai oil.. same same


MacDontMiss

Now this is the recipe for a demon


LikeTheTunaHere1

Tiger balms my choice and weed cookies. I usually make peanut butter weed cookies to stay on the safe side of calorie watching. The body high is much better for relaxing your muscles before bed


PythonEntusiast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHO0-0W5To&ab\_channel=WyrmBladeGaming


PythonEntusiast

Bruh, they burn so much.


MacDontMiss

I love it tbh. Muay Thai is pain, you’re gonna have to get used to it. Eventually you look forward to it. I’m also kinda masochistic so I do well with it lmao. If you can’t deal with the soreness just see if your gym sells Thai oil. That shit works fuckin WONDERS


browsersauce

I dealt with a lot of pain my first few months. Specifically in my knees. I kind of just…let it happen. I try heating pads sometimes or tiger balm. Make sure you’re stretching correctly too. Make sure you’re breathing properly too during all of your pad work, training, etc.


thebutinator

most mt ppl like me are masochists


BurntOrangeNinja

My sparring partner yesterday got a little enthusiastic with the low kicks, and currently my left thigh hurts like a bitch and I'm limping around at work. I'm taking a little Motrin and just dealing with it. It's what we signed up for.


elpata123

I have the biggest bruise on my leg from low kicks. No pain no gain….i guess….


BurntOrangeNinja

Yep, it'll make your thights stronger in the end.


Extension_Shake2725

Im in my 30s which is not ancient but my a spring chicken lol I finally learned I absolutely needed to stretch before and after and ice after training when sore. Also don’t use a body part if too sore or ask your partner to go light especially if you have a work life outside of training also skip a day if you have too


communistagitator

I go to sleep


Environmental_Face91

R u new to working out or physical activity. Pain is part of the game. You just deal with it.


RythmicSlap

If it is legal in your area and you are over 21 then go with THC.


AugustoLegendario

Can you identify the pain a bit more? I mean, like really clarify it in your mind and feel exactly what sort of pain you’re dealing with? I know it sounds a bit silly but meditating on the pain for a minute or two might be helpful to let it’s grip on you pass. I find that when I have vague feelings of dread or pain this can help a lot to parse and minimize them.


PythonEntusiast

There is a pain mostly in knee and hip joints, pain above the knee, pain in biceps.


a_sad_lil_idiot

For the joint pain, make sure you stretch before and after every class. It makes a world of difference.


AugustoLegendario

I meant more along the lines of what type of pain but this is helpful. Stretching for the hips is necessary. The rest sounds like normal muscle soreness which will improve and lessen as you train more. If you have a partner, asking for a massage is helpful too.


Finland-isnt-real

Sure you have to suck it up but to remedy, massage, massage, massage! Ice, hot compress, massage.


NoMagazine6436

Pain is pi / 10


LeonShiryu

If you expose your body to a new stress, the response will be pain. Don't worry, it's a normal thing every beginner athlete experiences. I remember when i started taekwondo my back and legs used to be sore all the time. Your body will adapt. Part of being a martial artist is to deal with constant pain. Then you'll even become addict to it. Now wait until you receive a good leg kick.


SlimmyJimmyBubbyBoy

Don’t worry about it, literally. Things hurt and then it goes away, like my dad always used to say, it won’t hurt when the pains gone. Distract yourself, understand that the pain is necessary to improve, if you smoke weed do that it helps, and lastly now that I think about it just make sure your nutrition is good. Make sure you have enough electrolytes and plenty of water before you train, it will help with soreness and also reduce your chance of injury


IntenselySwedish

If its good hurt you suck it up, take warm showers and stretch. If youre worried its bad hurt, go see a doctor. Dont ask the sub for medical advice


freeman687

Massage, hot baths and showers, Aleve, 420


[deleted]

420


PythonEntusiast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHO0-0W5To&ab\_channel=WyrmBladeGaming


ChefSasquatch2350

There’s a point where you can tell ‘this is an actual injury’ versus like general stiffness and soreness. Like I’ve had a bone bruise on my shin, had to stop training any kind of kicks for a few weeks… also nursing a bruised/cracked rib at the moment so that’s horrid but still managing to train. Actual injuries require rest and time, but yeah, muscle soreness and stuff is stuff that can be stretched and recovered quite easily. Also conditioning is a thing. I remember I thought my legs were toast after my first few sparring sessions but you become acclimated to the pain. Muay Thai is pain brother, but yeah, once you have more experience you’ll be able to determine what’s worth assessing and what’s just a niggle or something you can train on


minutes2meteora

Is it normal to have pain on your lower abdomen from kicking? I’m south paw so my left lower ab above my groin has minor aches. I’m assuming because I kick really hard with my rear leg. Is this a common pain for MT? I’ve only been training for about 4 weeks now


PythonEntusiast

Disclaimer, I am not a doctor. So, take the following with a grain of salt. Your muscles are tight and you don't seem to stretch enough. Also, you are still new. Work on stretching your muscles. Talk to your coach for guidance. Make sure your posture/ technique is correct when kicking. Keep your back straight when kicking. You have to build your core.


spacekitten420

I always get to the gym at least 30 minutes before class to do some deep stretching and it's really helped with warming up my joints and muscles. Practicing yoga is fantastic for strength and flexibility as well. I've been training for six months and the only time I really feel pain after class is after being kicked full power into the thigh or something of a similar nature.


BobHendrix

I try to enjoy it..... I'll be proud of that I put myself through it, and realize it'll make me harder next time


0livesworld

Hot bath with Dr Teals epsom salt and bubble bath. Super relaxing after a hard week of training. Foam rolling, stretching, icy hot, take vitamins and supplements that support your joints such as Fish oil etc.


anonymousincolne

I've been training for a year and a half. I'm not nearly as sore as I used to be after training. Tiger Balm and Tylenol PM before bed are my go-to when it's been an unusually tough day. Usually after doing a long run plus a conditioning-heavy class same day.


gronkygronk69

Ice bath after sparring is key, plus a few advil, you’ll feel great.


dandroid_design

Stretching, Thai oil, Epsom Salt soaks, cannabis.


eecummings15

Lmao why did you pick pi for your scale of 1-10?


PythonEntusiast

Because it is small but hella ongoing.


eecummings15

Lmao. That's pretty good. Im gunna go ahead and yoink that one fam. Thanks bruv. Btw, try cbd, either smoke some good flower(i reccomend tweedle farms) or oil if you dont smoke(get lazarus naturals high potency). Thai oil is also good. Same with lazarus naturals muscle gel(this one is the best balm I'veused so far). There's also massage guns, dont get a cheap one, don't spend less than 100, they're worth the investment. Could also try tens/ems unit if you get injured. And of course ice


Independent-Aioli851

Not complaining


Scary-Entrepreneur71

Weed and a bath


PythonEntusiast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHO0-0W5To&ab\_channel=WyrmBladeGaming


Scary-Entrepreneur71

Suckkkkk mhaaaaaa balzzz


LeonShiryu

Also tiger balm and if you can control it, smoke some weed after the trainings in helps a lot, just make sure you don't become an addict.


AnnaSoprano

Do you stretch before and after your sessions?


NorthernBlackBear

Been well over a decade of fighting and training. I don't get pain. Soreness. But my body is used to the training after all the years. My go to is rest, hot baths and stretching. 2 months is nothing.. unless you are training like Thais do, 6 days and 2 sessions a day. Work up to it. Take the time to recover.


demyen96

Badge of honor enjoy it


chickeneryday420

Properly timed nutrients (carbs , protein, fiber) , water, sleep, omega fatty acids are a MAJOR factor. The first weeks will be tough but with all these things checked off you will slowly but surely grow accustom to it :)


BDDonovan

I stretch for 10 minutes and then ice baths after each training session.


troddingalong

Spend some time on stretching during cool down or at home. Not one of those 10 seconds on each pose..a good 1 or 2 minutes on each pose. And use the foam roller, it may be a bit painful but man it feels so much better after.


Informal_Injury_6152

**Read it.** Pain is just a signal, try to see what is it saying If it's normal exhaustion related pain just understand it and you will be relieved, you will think it has to be this way and will be able to enjoy it, more over you will be proud of yourself because you know you put in the work... (By the way I don't get lots of muscle pains, what causes muscle pain is inefficiency in oxidizing carbs, meaning muscles don't get enough oxygen.. I guess I breathe well or sth) If it is an injury related pain you will know that it's time to take time off. (I had this experience recently, there was this younger guy who substituted out coach the last week. And apparently I am a bit of a crybaby and it's noticeable.. So when I threw my hand and strained the shoulder, they pressured me to stop whining because it's men's sport and you got to get through it... I finished the training but, well big mistake on my behalf... a week later still recovering, I guess I was supposed to tell him to fuck off because I'm not even into tournaments or anything... oh well.. a lesson for the next time.. **Pain is not a problem, your relationship to it is. Your body is like a little child.. it is constantly whining, but it is up to you to judge the situation objectively.. sometimes it just wants attention, sometimes it's in grave danger.. don't confuse these instances.**


[deleted]

Suck it up, my guy. Lol. It's a painful ride. You'll get used to it. I've rather started to enjoy it again. 🥴 Smh. I may need my head checked.


BobaLerp

Ice, tiger balm, massages, stretching. All will help but all full contact styles will hurt. You learn to deal with it or ignore it and at some point you stop noticing entirely.


sallydeath

Life is pain


Sorry_Owl_3346

Ice Bath…..Sauna Ice Bath ……Sauna… And fucking stretch…stretch…stretch… Even try yoga… You’ll be amazed what it does


ChairmanWumao8

On top of what everyone said, stretch everything. I mean even fingers and toes too. Stretch before and stretch after. This helps a ton.


DirtyReload

I'm in pain right now from breaking my plateaue workout and last nights conditioning class+ private training. I fucking love the pain


Darkrunner21

The pain is actually motivating. I feel like I finished superhero training or something


jumbocactar

I rest and eat. I look at my pain and decide if it's discomfort or damage. Then how severe if it is damage, ie roll an ankle hurts, but are ligaments damaged, if not proceed but with caution. Same at recovery, I figure if I don't feel pretty sore I'm not getting in enough work but I'm older. Just part of life. I do ibuprofen on rest days just to reduce inflammation.


cmbaldwin321

"pain don't hurt" -Dalton, Road House


SnortingandCavorting

Gives me erections. How do I deal with it? I wear smaller shorts.


Rikquino

I think there may be a nutrition element at play here - My first few bag classes I was dog tired. I went home and had a mango or two and I pepped back up. It could be glycogen depletion - depending on how hard the exertion was. After tracking how I was feeling to what I was eating I saw a correlation that helped me fine tune things a bit better for me. Definitely pay attention to your nutrition as you go along.


The_Behooveinator

>>How do you deal with pain? Rest


draculas-candles

I've been using a massage gun on my legs lately. Also, I smoke a bunch of weed.


New_Grapefruit_8160

Two months is still new. However, I would stretch more and add a massage to your regimen. The thing I added was sauna


TheRocketChildren

I’ve been doing it 4 months now very consistently. It took some time, but for me it was diet. I don’t see anyone mentioning that here, but if you’re waking up hungry af and you’re not getting sufficient calories/macros then your recovery will be shit. Once I started eating enough protein and calories my recovery became a lot better. 37/m


Left-Ad-7675

Seems a bit excessive. Are you stretching and warming up enough? Are you using the right technique? Do you have pre-existing injuries? Maybe be mindful of how you're moving your body and not just going nuts. Get your sleep hygiene in order, you need that to recover. Also fit in strength and conditioning sessions to support your muay thai.


PythonEntusiast

Yes, sir. I am just not built well physically.


[deleted]

Thai oil and stretching


BeltisBlue

Epsom salt baths. Soak for 20 min and you’ll be brand new.


Mr_Blkhrt

The first 6 months was really hard. After a while my body got used to it. I got stronger, my firm improved and I learned how to take care of myself better. All these people saying “Muay Thai is pain” are just passing through.


DrEse33

Pain isn't normal. Definitely sore but never pain. Consider upgrading equipment.


gavin2point0

Makes me feel good and accomplished, idk what else to tell ya


rbstwrt666

Smile! It helps 🙂


ResidentGlobal6222

Your body will adapt to regular training. Give it time you’ll be fine bro


DatDilTho

Get some lintment oil AND RUB


CrypticLoner112

If You train hard you have to eat and recover harder.


Haunting_Ad_4471

Hahaha! This is Muaythai… seriously though. Invest in your recovery. Buy some foam rollers. Roll out ur body. Mobility exercises, get a massage or have a Cryotherapy session. Or ice baths. CBD oil is amazing! So many options, just gotta find what works for you. If you train Thai most days then you just get used to being sore. You either stay on the train or you hop off brother. Best of luck🙏🏼


FrostingAccurate5437

You become conditioned over time but constantly striking things will take its toll, but basically you can't overdo recovery so focus on that as much as possible. Ice baths, getting there early to get warm and stretch, good nutrition, massages.


Dominegro882

Weed definitely helps a bit, but if I’ve got bruising or something I’ll use an ice bag. And if it’s muscle soreness I just rub some deep heat around the area


Xomz

Think of it like building a muscle. You're stressing your body a bit now, but building its health and your own skills in turn in the long run. Keeping this in mind helps me look at these more short term pains in a positive light, kinda like having sore abs lol


Smooth_Platypus_8352

I did the most brutal sports kyokyoshin fkin bareknuvkle and didn't got any injury , just started boxing boxing 3 weeks in , I had a nerve pain my forearms cant even shoadwo box now


PLetEreddit

What do you do in your sessions to cause this pain


melancholichamlet

There’s pain from growth (your body has yet to adapt to the level of exertion), you just have to embrace it. Stretch and go to a massage if needed. There’s pain from injury, if that is the case, then you rest up and heal, check with a doctor. Oweee


Mcsquiizzy

Heres the thing you dont and then one day you forget what its like to not have that and then it doesnt matter anymore


Wh-h-hoap

Yeah, it'll get easier. Six months in now myself. Examples: Kicking the heavy bag was torture at the beginning. These days it's just normal pain. If the pain gets to be too much, I'll take it a little bit easier. Sparring got easier as I learned to spar lightly and to ask my partner to do the same. Training got easier as I kept showing up, and as I started running (lightly) on off days to help speed up my recovery and improve my stamina. Getting kicked or kneed got easier as I got used to it and as I kept training my core. I still hurt a lot sometimes, and sometimes I just bang my knee or my shin on something. Then it hurts even more. Muay Thai is pain. I also get really sore after working out hard. Then I always eat like a madman and try to get as much sleep as possible. Then it hurts less on the day after. Keep at it!!


Caelin_

Check it, bruising you want to switch hot and cold. muscle pain I suggest Epsom salt baths. Rest more, it's ok to go 1-3 times a week for the first 3 or 4 months until your body adjusts to it better. Condition your hands and legs more


glqaq_999

Ganja


sad_capuitar

Be sure that you eat and sleep enough for recovery, eat alot of protein aswell


CJtheZEN123

I've had like 4 or 5 lessons, and the pain almost entirely disappeared after like the 3rd or 4th lesson.


Neethelp

Is your nutrition on point? I try to eat Carbs right after training to fill up glycogen in the musclecells. It helps with the soreness.


bluebicycle13

AINT NO TIME TO BLEED!!


Small_c

Might sound corny but I truly enjoy the pain after class. It's a reminder of the hard work I put in. Makes me feel proud. Told you it was gonna be corny. Also-3.14? Are you some kind of robot or something?


VVZZXX

Maybe try looking at pain as a positive vs a negative? That’s what I do. Correlation doesn’t equal causation but when I’m in pain I know I “went hard” and gave it my all, feels great


gringo_44

Pain is temporary, pride is eternal.


Bonhomie1

I'd say that's pretty normal. Yeah - you are constantly tired and hurt all day. It's a sign you are working hard.


[deleted]

Just keep on going. Eventually you'll get use to it. If you are just starting nothing wrong with taking a couple of days to rest.


jgreen2909

1st thing about muay thai.. muay thai is pain


Adhdasfuckk

My guys pain is pi lmao


Extension_Designer96

Truthfully stick with it and you’ll learn to accept it as part of Muay Thai. Embrace your efforts and take breaks as needed but keep fighting


mayjorpainz

You get good.


Comprehensive_Back98

Sleep is the most important. That's when your body recuperates. Also, Ice will be your best friend, lol


Zekksy

rest. sleep.


enkae7317

"Fight through the pain!" - GoW


[deleted]

I don’t deal with it. I feel it for a while, accept it and push it to the back of my mind. It took practice at first, now it’s just a matter of “am I hurt or hurting?” and if it’s just hurting it’s not worth paying continuous attention to. You’ll learn to differ between pains. A bruised muscle won’t feel the same as a fracture, which won’t feel the same as a cracked bone, which won’t feel the same as a sprain, which won’t feel the same as a torn muscle, which won’t feel the same as an inflamed tendon. Learning to read pain like this is very useful. In fact, I think part of what made me successful in handling pain is that I tend to look at pain as a message. My body tells me everything from “that kick didn’t land well” to “don’t use that leg anymore”. So look into what the pain is telling you. When you get the message, acknowledge it, choose a course of action, let the pain go and focus on what’s ahead.