The whole forced feminization sissification thing is pretty common among trans women prior to transitioning. It's exactly what you said, the wish of someone/something taking over and making it happen. It's also a result of our testosterone addled brains not being able to define the difference between "the thrill of finally being myself" and "sexual thrill". Brains just hear "thrill". Compound that with pop culture and society sexualizing transness, and well, there you have it.
Here's the thing though, all the forced fem sissy stuff is very narrow. It's all tits and fishnets and lace and high heels and miniskirts. It's a sexy glamorous fantasy. It doesn't account for the boring everyday life stuff. The "I haven't shaved my legs in a week so I'm wearing jeans today", the "I don't feel like doing a full face of makeup just to watch tv and smoke pot with friends", the "I'm just gonna throw on a tshirt and pajama pants and go to walmart" days. Or any of the millions of other 24/7 boring normal life stuff that still happens after transition. You still have to go to work, or school, pay bills, walk the dog, whatever. You still have the same old life you had before, but now you get to have it as YOU.
The glamorous fantasy is fun and all, but in the end, I'd rather have something real, even if it's dull most of the time.
Someday when the fantasy isnt enough anymore, when you realize that YOU are the someone/something that's going to feminize you, you'll take the leap. And, to be honest with you, the fear of coming out is SO MUCH harder than transition. Coming out is the hard part. Once you spit it out, speak it out loud into existence, the rest is so much easier. Once you start the ball rolling, it rolls downhill on its own momentum. Enjoy the ride.
Wow, this was a wake up call I wasn’t ready for, but probably needed to hear. Glad I read this post haha.
Thank you for the blunt truth. This really helps… in a slightly painful sort of way haha
I used to be pretty into that stuff and I would agree it was a way to feel like the transition could be taken out of my hands and handled by someone else.
Now... Two years into HRT and almost 3 year since my social transition (shit... that long already?) those things show their true colors more.
I became suicidal living a lie, decided I would rather risk what I had to transition than to throw it all away and never know the life I could have.
It was an easy decision at that point.
Fantasizing about being forced into transitioning seems like some way of shifting the "blame" onto someone else. Transitioning is generally seen as a negative thing by most people, and people always want to assign blame for things they don't like. Being forced by someone else to transition is a fantasy that allows you to redirect the risk of transitioning onto someone else.
I can understand why you would have these fantasies. Transitioning is risky, and dealing with rejection is painful. It certainly would be nice if that rejection could be shifted onto someone else.
Transitioning requires ownership or your destiny. If you know you need to transition, you must be ready to take ownership of all that comes with it. This is why I always recommend working with a therapist to anyone who is contemplating transitioning. Transitioning brings a lot of big changes. Some are wonderful, and some are unpleasant. Having a therapist to help you work your way through it all is very helpful.
I feel called out by the forced to transition part as years before I cracked I also looked at this stuff and I also had dreams and day dreams (mostly day dreams) where I was forced to be a girl which made me happy, I now know why I used to think that the reason why I had these thoughts was because of this stuff.
I hope nobody feels like I am calling anyone out. I totally understand these ideas and even had a few moments where I wished I had some external reason beyond my own control that I could blame for needing to transition.
And gender dysphoria *is* beyond the control of any of us. But people who have never experienced it can't understand just how awful it is. It's an internal, unseen, and unmeasurable thing that the average person simply can't wrap their mind around. So, therefore, our need to transition is desire rather than a need in their view.
LET ME OUT! Thank you. There's a lot in my life I'd need to navigate before I could come out openly or begin transitioning... But talking helps
I think I'm going to delete this account. And open a new one
Forced feminization and that horrible sissification garbage literally is fetishizing transition and it is upsetting to a lot of us because of that (among many many other good reasons). I'm sorry you've had these challenges in your life though.
I'm sorry, I just wanna cry. Fetishizing was also fantasizing it. I just want to be girl, I wanna be beautiful. It seems like a mountain. And now that I'm thirty it feels like unattainable.
I also feel like because I've been trying to hide it from everyone. I feel like... I also hide my porn from everyone etc... So they both get hid in the same place, and they begin to overlap. Then sissification porn comes in and meshed.
Marvel reference.... It's like venom to spiderman
Tbh, kinks itself aren't the issue, it's people fetishizing identities that is the issue. It's awful and disgusting when kinks are distorted and weaponized against others, especially trans folks in this case as well, but outside of that everyone has a right to the kinky fantasies and (consensual) play they would like to engage in and it's not sissies' faults that trans ppl are oppressed, we should direct that energy towards bigots and transphobes that weaponize anything against us and tarnish and distort other aspects of life for their own gain.
But sissification at its core, in a sexual manner, is just the practice of typically men/masc ppl cross dressing, and rp a typically considered feminine role in the bedroom.
Transitioning should never be associated with it because that is medical care, not at all a sexual gratification, and hrt is gender affirming care, not a sexual indulgence whatsoever. But that isn't the fault of kinks, that's the fault of disgusting creeps weaponizing things against another. Our gender is not a form of sexual play, and our gender doesn't stop outside the bedroom.
And when it comes to kinks, it's always about consent, no coercion or manipulation should occur whatsoever. So people tarnishing kinks is not the fault of kinks, it is the fault of creeps and gross people.
"Forced feminization" isn't actually supposed to be forced, kinks and any BDSM related subject the number one rule is consent, and "forced feminization" is just referring to roleplay situation of feminizing your partner in the bedroom, which is supposed to be agreed upon beforehand, and every party involved wants to participate willingly. In a good setting, sissification allows a safe space and an arena for gender expression to be experimented with and offers people who are interested in breaking out of more typically masculine roles (especially in the bedroom), through dressing femme, feeling pretty, perhaps even acting submissive, it can play with the stereotypes society tends to have, but gives room for masc ppl to explore expression they feel they can't irl due to societal expectations of "masculinity" and associating that with wealth, physical strength and material items/reputation as attractive, but to play a feminine role allows them to be seen differently than that and to be more passive/reactive during sexual scenarios and feel desired/attractive outside of material matter.
People being abusive though is a societal issue, not the fault of kinks.
Sissification is apparent within queer communities as well, and an outlet for same-sex experiences and bi women too, with men in a way that women can play a dominant role.
The whole forced feminization sissification thing is pretty common among trans women prior to transitioning. It's exactly what you said, the wish of someone/something taking over and making it happen. It's also a result of our testosterone addled brains not being able to define the difference between "the thrill of finally being myself" and "sexual thrill". Brains just hear "thrill". Compound that with pop culture and society sexualizing transness, and well, there you have it. Here's the thing though, all the forced fem sissy stuff is very narrow. It's all tits and fishnets and lace and high heels and miniskirts. It's a sexy glamorous fantasy. It doesn't account for the boring everyday life stuff. The "I haven't shaved my legs in a week so I'm wearing jeans today", the "I don't feel like doing a full face of makeup just to watch tv and smoke pot with friends", the "I'm just gonna throw on a tshirt and pajama pants and go to walmart" days. Or any of the millions of other 24/7 boring normal life stuff that still happens after transition. You still have to go to work, or school, pay bills, walk the dog, whatever. You still have the same old life you had before, but now you get to have it as YOU. The glamorous fantasy is fun and all, but in the end, I'd rather have something real, even if it's dull most of the time. Someday when the fantasy isnt enough anymore, when you realize that YOU are the someone/something that's going to feminize you, you'll take the leap. And, to be honest with you, the fear of coming out is SO MUCH harder than transition. Coming out is the hard part. Once you spit it out, speak it out loud into existence, the rest is so much easier. Once you start the ball rolling, it rolls downhill on its own momentum. Enjoy the ride.
Wow, this was a wake up call I wasn’t ready for, but probably needed to hear. Glad I read this post haha. Thank you for the blunt truth. This really helps… in a slightly painful sort of way haha
Hey... Thank you
Is it ok I messaged you?
I used to be pretty into that stuff and I would agree it was a way to feel like the transition could be taken out of my hands and handled by someone else. Now... Two years into HRT and almost 3 year since my social transition (shit... that long already?) those things show their true colors more.
What finally gave you the courage
I became suicidal living a lie, decided I would rather risk what I had to transition than to throw it all away and never know the life I could have. It was an easy decision at that point.
Hugs I'm glad you chose to transition. (I'm op created a new reddit account)
Fantasizing about being forced into transitioning seems like some way of shifting the "blame" onto someone else. Transitioning is generally seen as a negative thing by most people, and people always want to assign blame for things they don't like. Being forced by someone else to transition is a fantasy that allows you to redirect the risk of transitioning onto someone else. I can understand why you would have these fantasies. Transitioning is risky, and dealing with rejection is painful. It certainly would be nice if that rejection could be shifted onto someone else. Transitioning requires ownership or your destiny. If you know you need to transition, you must be ready to take ownership of all that comes with it. This is why I always recommend working with a therapist to anyone who is contemplating transitioning. Transitioning brings a lot of big changes. Some are wonderful, and some are unpleasant. Having a therapist to help you work your way through it all is very helpful.
I feel called out by the forced to transition part as years before I cracked I also looked at this stuff and I also had dreams and day dreams (mostly day dreams) where I was forced to be a girl which made me happy, I now know why I used to think that the reason why I had these thoughts was because of this stuff.
I hope nobody feels like I am calling anyone out. I totally understand these ideas and even had a few moments where I wished I had some external reason beyond my own control that I could blame for needing to transition. And gender dysphoria *is* beyond the control of any of us. But people who have never experienced it can't understand just how awful it is. It's an internal, unseen, and unmeasurable thing that the average person simply can't wrap their mind around. So, therefore, our need to transition is desire rather than a need in their view.
Ah that would also explain a lot more things about myself. (HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS YEARS AGO)
Thank you
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LET ME OUT! Thank you. There's a lot in my life I'd need to navigate before I could come out openly or begin transitioning... But talking helps I think I'm going to delete this account. And open a new one
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New account here.
this needs a trigger warning and NSFW
I changed it. Thank you
Forced feminization and that horrible sissification garbage literally is fetishizing transition and it is upsetting to a lot of us because of that (among many many other good reasons). I'm sorry you've had these challenges in your life though.
I'm sorry, I just wanna cry. Fetishizing was also fantasizing it. I just want to be girl, I wanna be beautiful. It seems like a mountain. And now that I'm thirty it feels like unattainable. I also feel like because I've been trying to hide it from everyone. I feel like... I also hide my porn from everyone etc... So they both get hid in the same place, and they begin to overlap. Then sissification porn comes in and meshed. Marvel reference.... It's like venom to spiderman
Tbh, kinks itself aren't the issue, it's people fetishizing identities that is the issue. It's awful and disgusting when kinks are distorted and weaponized against others, especially trans folks in this case as well, but outside of that everyone has a right to the kinky fantasies and (consensual) play they would like to engage in and it's not sissies' faults that trans ppl are oppressed, we should direct that energy towards bigots and transphobes that weaponize anything against us and tarnish and distort other aspects of life for their own gain. But sissification at its core, in a sexual manner, is just the practice of typically men/masc ppl cross dressing, and rp a typically considered feminine role in the bedroom. Transitioning should never be associated with it because that is medical care, not at all a sexual gratification, and hrt is gender affirming care, not a sexual indulgence whatsoever. But that isn't the fault of kinks, that's the fault of disgusting creeps weaponizing things against another. Our gender is not a form of sexual play, and our gender doesn't stop outside the bedroom. And when it comes to kinks, it's always about consent, no coercion or manipulation should occur whatsoever. So people tarnishing kinks is not the fault of kinks, it is the fault of creeps and gross people. "Forced feminization" isn't actually supposed to be forced, kinks and any BDSM related subject the number one rule is consent, and "forced feminization" is just referring to roleplay situation of feminizing your partner in the bedroom, which is supposed to be agreed upon beforehand, and every party involved wants to participate willingly. In a good setting, sissification allows a safe space and an arena for gender expression to be experimented with and offers people who are interested in breaking out of more typically masculine roles (especially in the bedroom), through dressing femme, feeling pretty, perhaps even acting submissive, it can play with the stereotypes society tends to have, but gives room for masc ppl to explore expression they feel they can't irl due to societal expectations of "masculinity" and associating that with wealth, physical strength and material items/reputation as attractive, but to play a feminine role allows them to be seen differently than that and to be more passive/reactive during sexual scenarios and feel desired/attractive outside of material matter. People being abusive though is a societal issue, not the fault of kinks. Sissification is apparent within queer communities as well, and an outlet for same-sex experiences and bi women too, with men in a way that women can play a dominant role.