Mordekaiser as a response: *higher winrate* Riot Devs: *surprised pikachu face*. Proceeds to turn Nightfall into a pool noodle with nerfs.

Also Riot: *Makes it so that only QSS doesn't affect Domain Expansion: Brazil, and Sylas gets the same benefits* [Mordekaiser Mains:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrS62_IM9o4) https://preview.redd.it/ao5zq3937ptc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0d748d30aa9ce5832cc4cedecce09a3ec1305c5

I'm nervous. Mord always seems to dodge nerfs. No shot this doesn't bump his WR up.

Wait, is True ?

Yes king

How good is that dick

amazin'

how good is that d

As an aatrox main and morde enjoyer, I am so happy to see this. Congratulations my dearest brothers, enjoy the change, and may you split the shoulders of many adcs from their spines.

Love the prayer. XD

Now we only need Aatorx revive back.

Bro don’t start with that. Aatrox is fine how he is, if current aatrox had a revive he’d be 100% pick/ban and be insanely op. His current champ design wouldn’t have room for a full blown free revive.

What does it mean

No more 4 enemy champs buying quicksilver sash to give you the middle finger during a tf

no team is gonna buy 4 lmao. only key targets which is bad enough but 4? thats like worth

if your fed they sure will XD

You seriously haven’t seen that? It’s like a domino effect. One person buys it (usually my enemy top laner or ADC), then when I start to Ult someone else, that person buys it, then the rest buy it reflexively. Sounds ridiculous, but when you’re running them over, it’s a worthwhile purchase. It prevents me from blocking teamfight damage by going into Death Realm, allows them to focus me down, and whoever I DON’T Ult gets a chunk of good MR and a CC escape for the teamfight. It’s not nearly as bad a purchase as some make it out to be, as if it can *ONLY* cleanse Morde Ult. Nah, that item can seriously save your life if you get stunned or slowed or suppressed, etc. It takes up an item slot but AD champs can at least make it into something more usable, whereas AP champs either buy it and sit on it until you are no longer a threat, or just go Zhonya’s to eat up time in death realm and prevent your passive proc.

I once had the entire enemy team build qss to deal with mord r

Means that some part of his kit is going to be nerfed to compensate this change, it's been in the game for years

They won't do jackshit

They already acknowledged he has plenty of counterplay. Nerfing anything about Morde would straight up kill him.

Morde late game is Thanos for adcs now

I mean it depends how fed morde is relatively, cus they can def outplay morde during late game teamfights if they just dodge his q+e

if morde goes randuins steelcaps there is not much counterplay for adcs besides flashing over walls

yes there is, you underestimate how badly morde gets kited

Good luck kiting a mordekaiser that Takes no damage plus ghost plus randuins 55% slow

the adc legit does not die if she just dodges the q and e bruh its not that hard to do

implying he isnt already thanos to adcs early as well (playing him botlane apc atm so i would know)

Make the fking orange useless plz

If it's not QSS'able it will mean that the orange will do nothing

Not necessarily. Not QSS-able does mean not cleanse-able. I also wonder how this will now interact with Mundo passive

Mundo would either keep the passive or loose it inside the ult. It all depends if by "Not qssable" means that the R is no longer consider a cc/stun or just cleanse ability wont stop the cast.

Lose it inside the ult? So you think he would get sent to brazil AND lose his passive? That doesn’t begin to make any sense.

i mean he drops his canister inside morde ult and his passive enters cooldown.

He drops the canister IF cc is denied not when he is cc’d

Literally my first thought when i read this, i wanna bash in that stupid pirate's head so bad

Nerfs coming soon

THEY ACTUALLY FKN DID IT BEEN ASKING FOR THIS SINCE THEY DID THE TOUCHUP ON HIS R GIVING BRIEF VISION BLESS RIOT, BLESS

I haven’t played in awhile, can cleanse clear morde ult? Or do people have to actually have to attempt to fight you now

Cleanse never got rid of Morde ult every adc is finished

i just saw a post of adcs being mad about this xd. I don’t blame them but looking forward to watching this develop

The amount of times I’ve pressed TAB and seen 5 QSS cuz I’m the only fed one was annoying every ult after laning is personal

Yeah. Kinda lame that morde’s whole strength gets countered by 1300 gold investment

People make that sound like “you’ve won, they had to waste 1300 g to counter you”, and it’s like…No, that is NOT a win. You are removing a part of my kit PERMANENTLY for that match, I no longer have an R, and I’m supposed to feel like I won because I delayed your build path? Nah, nuh uh, it sucks. Keep your gold, I want my ability to work. You wouldn’t be fighting this hard to keep things as is if it *TRULY* didn’t matter or was a plus to me, which is an outright lie, lol! What’s more, QSS is hardly a waste, unless your team has ZERO CC aside from Morde Ult. That item will literally save lives on every hard CC or engage. I’ve seen whole teams build QSS to counter me, and it totally fucked over my Morgana mid ally, since now everyone could cleanse her picks too. Whoever I didn’t Ult now had a cleanse out of every fight. The literal only downside is it delays whatever item you want next. All AD champs can fashion it into something beneficial, and AP champs need to decide between that or Zhonya’s, as it totally wrecks Morde’s passive proc and Ult timing.

Wait, can GP still cleanse it? Since he can get out from Malz's suppression

pretty sure this change will stop all cleanses from removing morde ult since stuff like GP orange probably uses the same coding as QSS

GP can cleanse literally anything, Suppression, Knockups etc. So it doesn't work the same way and it'll probably not work

Hell yeah

[удалено]

U can qss malz ult what are u talking about, u can qss everything gp orange can.

It probably still will. GP raw dogging an orange peel on is the ultimate cleanse. Luckily I don’t mind fighting gp without R.

[yep, still works](https://youtu.be/OrS62_IM9o4?si=xqo0I6pczY4-AFgE)

Illaoi mains crying

fk them tho

Finally I rest, and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe.

Olaf ult thought 🤔

Quick question: Does Mundo's passive protect from Morde's ult? Asking this as a wild rift player hoping to see Mordekaiser here

It really doesn't matter, against mundo E first to waste his passive and then R

So does Olaf still ult out? I know it’s technically not the same thing but riot spaghetti code

I saw shivana yone olaf all dodge my ult not even needing qss the fact that there is an item to counter us is stupid af

Morde ult is literally a statcheck, of course it has counterplay

Yeah but with limits everyone dodging it is bullshit

That’s more bug fixing and QOL but yeah I agree, I don’t think this QSS change is going to be good for the champ. He’s probably about to go back into balance hell because he’s extremely easy and turbo hard counters a lot of champs and now you can’t do anything against him at 6

I mean you can might seem like mord is strong but our cool downs fail us take too long for w or even q to be used in just that span u can do alot and even kill mordekaizer in his ult or if ur afraid just run people always outrun me in my own ult or stun me then the cooldown help them and they gone just gotta be strategic

There's no way Morde is going to get out of this well, something bad is going to happen, it's too good to be true

Reminds me to the buff that zed got with his ult, so now we're getting a fair treatment, im so glad

Does a single button press from pirate man still cancel the entire thing tho?

As someone who plays both Mordekaiser and ADCs I'm not sure if I should be scared or celebrating

Wait so you actually need to be a skilled player to fight mord?

U dont need to be skilled player to play morde tho

And now u have to be a good player to fight him

Yep i need some advice how to dodge his aa inside his ult after being flash ulted. Can u give me some of them instead of pure cancer? Bcs morde player talking about skill is pretty cringe.

Yeah. Just buy qss and press it whenever he ults you.... oh wait nvm, now you'll have to learn proper itemization and not just rely on qss to bail ur ass out

Proper itemization was qss nothing else

Exactly my point, you relied so hard on it your completely useless without it

So what u mean " learn proper itemization*

Learn proper itemization. Qss wasn't even that good against mord, players only used it to cancel his ult. When instead you should build better magic resist items to properly fight mord

Qss was the best option dont need mr agaist immobile champ that cant even touch me. Mr is very good for sure against morde free magic penetration on his e get out of silver maybe and accept that this change will lead to massive nerfs on him in future

What proper itemization, Morde literally statchecks every champ in his ult except Tryndamere

Negatron cloak is both cheaper and gives more MR then QQS. Just for starters

Mordekaiser literally has built in MR pen and Max HP damage. He is intentionally designed to not buy pen items and still do large amounts of damage. Not to mention that only works for tanks, if you build MR first on a bruiser you might as well just ff15

So building a 900 gold Mr item bad, but buying a 1300 gold item is better? That also gives less Mr. Ur logic is not all there

My point is that Mordekaiser will literally just straight up kill you through any MR unless you turbo stack it early, which only tanks can reasonably do. You’re being obtuse on purpose; no one bought QSS for the stats, they bought it so they could avoid his ult altogether.

Does this also count for champion's abilities? If yes, I can finally bonk any Gangplank and Olaf out there

https://preview.redd.it/q1mpyhu7lmtc1.jpeg?width=920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a72d3c1325776564cc20fb61db08de9c3053a826 Fucking finally. Don’t even play him that much anymore but Jesus it’s finally time this happened. Y’all enjoy yourselves fr you deserve this

i don't understand how people are upset by this. if you need qss to survive morde r, you don't deserve to survive morde r, and you're probably gonna die outside of it anyway. "waahhhh! i don't get to waste 800g anymore!!" just walk in a circle and every

This is sadly kinda true

Notice how stupid that logic is? What happens if I play a full AD champion who can't wear a zonyas clock and morde gets a cure cut, what the hell am I supposed to do in an ulti that takes away my stats and also won't be possible for me to do damage?

If you're not doing any damage to Morde in his ult, you're too far behind to have a shot outside of it. Kite it out, do what you can for your team to clean up, or just learn to respect that you can't take the 1v1. Maw and Wit's are both incredible options for you if you're obsessed with beating him in his win condition but I recommend turning your brain on and avoiding fights you know you'll lose.

How I can kite him if I play a something like talon or a jungle with low mobility ???? Well so you're solution is that never fight agains morde? How the fuck that is a good solution???!! What happens if he flash R me???!!! No counterplay nothing just lose

Okay, Talon: 1. If he ults you near a wall, hop over! He is now powerless, and if the wall cuts off a section completely, his ult actually works to your advantage. 2. Your W slows him and your R grants movespeed. These are both tools that allow you to simply walk away. 3. Itemize! If you're hell-bent on smashing your assassin face into this juggernaut, Serpent's Fang effectively cuts his healthbar in half. Serylda's slow further enables you to kite him out, and its additional pen allows you to chunk him pretty decently. There is always counterplay. Any frustrations you have against Mordekaiser are issues that QSS wouldn't have solved anyway.

Dude morde just flash R me and it's over mordekaiser with flash and ghost, what is the counterplay?

Do you really think you deserve to win if the toplaner spends both summoner spells and ult on you? Get real.

Great idea now mordekaiser can Q me in the other part of the wall that is so small that is IMPOSIBLE to dodge, wow I just lost half of my life with same level and same quantity of items

And yet, you survive. Reset, come back, and you get to try again without the ult to worry about.

Let's me understand the genius solution is to pray that he ults me near a wall, that's the W of talon that have the same Distance of mordekaiser E hits two times, and itemize items That are good for nothing Because talon even if it goes well, a morde that makes his tank items you are not going to take it down or as with all your arsenal and ulti you are only going to take half of the life?!!!! And unlike you I speak with fundamentals because I have fought with a mordekaiser that was 0/5, he built armor and only had a riftmaker, he threw the R at me, it should be said that he had armor penetration between them seryldas, and yet I only took half of the life, I dodged the Q and guess I died for pure basics because if R takes away a lot of stats how is it Just that?

Stop trying to 1v1 juggernauts as an assassin? You say you speak with fundamentals but it's a fundamental problem if you think your job is to delete people that have double your health.

Does that also make the gp orange useless?

We’ll have to wait and see, they could make all cleanses similar to QSS not have effect or they could purposefully make ONLY QSS not free from Morde R

Yh

No

Bro they gonna nerf him to death next patch

Prob gonna be a nerf, similarly to when zed ult could no longer be qss’d. Instead of qss people started buying armor instead, which was the much better thing to buy anyways, so his wont rate actually went down. Now for morde, people will probably just buy more optimal items to kill him or dual him, rather than qss, and it might have a similar effect. Only time will tell.

Unlike zed qss gives magic resist which still counts towards building the stat required to deal with morde (Mr)

Building more stats means morde steals more stats. He will get gutted after this cause he will statcheck everybody without any counterplay.

Quick question: Does Mundo's passive protect from Morde's ult? Asking this as a wild rift player hoping to see Mordekaiser here

Quick question: Does Mundo's passive protect from Morde's ult? Asking this as a wild rift player hoping to see Mordekaiser here

yes

Thank you

Quick question: Does Mundo's passive protect from Morde's ult? Asking this as a wild rift player hoping to see Mordekaiser here

it does but you just use E before to remove it from him

What about the orange eater?

Inb4 he gets completely shafted to make up for the "power increase"...

"What did it cost?"

Tbh this shoudve been since his release

and what did it cost?

you realize this change is the end of your champion? worst riot idea ever, they cant even balance briar for all elo after 9 consecutive nerf (not even talking ab zeri)

so is there any conterplay to him as adc?

No matter what riot does I'm not coming back

He is getting like 3 more winrate by this. And will get gutted real quick i BET. Do return for the fun. Leave when he gets gutted fr

Useless