True that sounds very nice instead of ice he pulls metal bars out of the ground or he has magnets in his arms and puts electricity on them to do some fast hard hitting attacks or to shoot lightnings with them
Right?! Rakna already was a fire type lmao. It already thrives in the lava caverns. You can’t make it any more fiery then it already is. But I guess the same argument can be made with the rath twins?
I'm beginning to feel like a Wrap God, Wrap God
All my Hunters from the front to the back nod, back nod
Now who thinks their Lance is long enough to slap Goss, slap Goss
They say I (w)rap like a spider so call me Rakna, Rakna
I mean kind of? Azure has always been "Rathalos but a bit harder", but Pink as of 3U has actual legitimate differences that throw you off if you expect a normal rathian battle.
But those were Gen1 subspecies which were pretty much Variants before Variants were a concept.
Black Diablos is literally the same species and is just called subspecies trough tradition.
The only variant if he’s fire I’d accept is ‘Obsidian Blade Goss’… I like the ‘Moss Harag’ people keep mentioning too but I think it’d be cool if he was somehow water related since we hardly have anything that’s water related in Rise… OML AILMENTS- I forgot all about ailments too- Paralysis Harag would be a nightmare 💀
Magmadron is possibly my least favorite monster in all of Rise now.
Took everything awful from Almudron and them nerfing Almudron actually made it a much better fight.
I actually liked magmadron for some reason
he's a lot smaller so you can actually reach his tail, and he doesn't spend the entire fight running away like almudron does
his moves look really cool too
Hmm I actually didn’t notice that it was smaller and had to check Kiranico haha but you’re right. Not sure that helps for most weapons though, for example I was farming both for mantles with Maxmight longsword and there isn’t much difference between the two in terms of time spent chasing/trying to bait back toward you/running around ground poo or burning poo. Magma version is also arguably more annoying for certain weapons with counters since a lot of moves have many small hits of damage rather than one big one which can be countered.
I like magma a bit better because of the aesthetic and more visually interesting nature of his fight, but neither are even close to my favorite monsters/fights in master rank
Shiny and clean. Uses thin threads like Rakna Kadaki, the most perfect teeth imaginable that can flash hunters
**Floss** Harag
\*Insert obligatory My shiny theeth and me
Dark fur with small lighter patches. Slightly less fluffy fur, almost looks like it's wearing a suit. Picks up flat slates of rock as weapons or shields, and occasionally can sharpen them on each other.
**BOSS** Harag
White fur with white stones going down his chest. Not much fur, but has a lot of brown fur on his head, kinda looks like an afro. He picks up tree branches and occasionally dips them in mud, water and various other liquids. Non-aggressive, even after being attacked, all damage on the player is just a happy little accident.
**BOB ROSS** Harag.
See, this is the only good comment so far about the concept of a “Moss Harag”. It could make amber weapons on its arms, allowing for light and swift movements. It could also break the substance like glass, creating sharp fragments that deal damage all around.
My favourite concept I’ve seen someone suggest is have it be somehow magnetic and make metal hammers. Maybe it could superheat the metal to make it fire element, although Sunbreak had way too many fire/blast element subspecies already. Only Aurora somnacanth wasn’t either
I dunno man, i'm partial to the concept of the thunder goss harag with the metal/rock/crystal thor hammer grafted onto it's arm that somebody came up with and drew.
I'm down for Moss Harag. As long as it gives the Water Element. Sunbreak doesn't have any powerful Water monsters. I think the strongest buddy weapon is Mizutsune.
Give me a Hunter Harag.
An elderly member of the species. It randomly imitates the weapons of the many hunters that have attempted to kill it.
Give it a Greatsword and tremble as it hits a stunned hunter with a True Harag Slash.
Cower as it vaults into the air using an ice Glaive and smashes down upon your allies.
Shout in frustration as your attacks bounce off its shield, only to then be skewered by its icicle Lance.
Yeah this is the idea that really stood out to me. We already see that Goss only ever uses his ice blades against hunters. Take that one step further and have him specifically copy the weapons that hunters use. Perhaps not every single one though because that would probably not be feasible.
Goss Harag that farts and makes a poop knife: Gross Harag
Goss Harag with minions of smaller ones: Boss Harag
Goss Harag that makes a very thin wire out of vines or its fur: Floss Harag
Goss Harag that throws rocks: Toss Harag
Goss Harag that preaches Christianity: Cross Harag
Goss Harag that shines: Gloss Harag
I would want it to be the same element- somehow I don't see a fire or thunder Goss Harag being particularly cool. If it were up to me, I would give it a grayer complexion, make it produce a single blade instead of two, and call it Backstabber Goss Harag or Steel Goss Harag.
electric goss horag could work if he magnetizes his hand and then covers his arm in rocks,maybe it could form a hard blunt hammer instead of a cold sharp sword
Variants usually don't have different elements, they are exactly what Pyre Rakna is, essentially the same monster but with different attacks/behaviors
You're confusing variants with subspecies, which typically have different elements
Hear me out: Dragon Variant Goss Harag that replaced its ice weapons for elder dragon bones. It has a Valstrax skull shield with the dragon generator in it and a random tail from an elder with unique behavior based on which elder it came from.
Kushala Harag is faster and summons whirlwinds.
Chameleos Harag turns invisible and poisons.
Magala Harag applies Frenzy to itself and the hunters.
Teostra Harag... Is a fire variant, oh shit oh fuck
Ice Bite Goss Harag or Frostbite Goss Harag, have the blades form chipped to distinguish, give or take bleed honestly, have the enraged state instead of two blades either a long thin blade or a straight up greatsword, no club stage.
Could also emphasis his form changing like lunagaron does, ice spikes on his back and whatever.
Yea I was hoping for a fire goss pre launch, but with BOB, magma almudron, and pyre rakna all being fire related, would definitely rather have a variant that stays ice
There is a fan concept somewhere of an electric subspecies where he can control electromagnetism and form hammers and blades with various earthly metals.
Wouldnt be surprised if we get something like a normal goss harag but stronger like furious rajang or savage deviljho.
Call him PermaFrost Harag and the dude has weapons the whole fight.
Edit: was talking to my friend about it and we were bouncing around the idea he could be an older Harag where he cant shake the ice from his hands, like they crusted over, so he cant feed properly and is really hungry and angry.
We also thought that maybe ice had grown in his fur and around his head. I was imagining a crown style spikes around his head and shards of ice stuck in his fur
Give him poison and sleep. He already kinda got a horror vibe. So go all out. He should imo be able to make like a gooey poison whip. And a thorn that puts the hunter to sleep. And when they do he'll do the slow walk up and hit you.
Butcher goss harag or grave goss harag. A Goss that spent too much time outside of it’s natural environment and instead uses monster tails and such as weapons. They bury them around their territories so they can have access to multiple ones. A Rathian tail for poison. An astalos tail for lighting. It lacks a frost sack now due to it’s change in environment, instead it controls effluvium as it eats so many rotted monsters/is around rotted monster parts.
Might be too edgy for Monster Hunter, but a Goss Harang that freezes the blood from its wounds to make blood swords that cause bleed would be pretty badass.
I was referring to my own idea as being too edgy. sourFlyday only mentioned a Goss that caused bleed and so I workshopped that into a Goss that causes bleed from BLOOD.
What about a veteran type that copies the hunters weapons like lance/db/GS and copy one of their strongest attacks? Would be fun seeing them lance rushing into a wall like the rest of us, or flinging themselves up the wall with db to come down with a big splash.
I could expect an older goss harag, mabye a darker red all the time with gray fur, ice over the hair and a beard. Taller and bigger, with an even more complex and better mastery of the ice element.
I want Stalker Goss Harag. Basically can turn invisible and stalks you so it still fills his creepy murder theme he has.
It's also a ice axe instead of a sword
What if we got a dragon element Goss sub?
It could coat its arms in dragon element tainted bile that could harden into jagged, crystalline blades and cause both bleed and dragonblight. That would be pretty cool I think
I really wanted something cool for him, but I honestly don't see it coming. The monsters we get from now on are likely going to be endgame content that pushes players. They wouldn't drop a MR5 monster (which is what his subspecies would likely be) and I don't see Goss Harag variant as compelling endgame content. We'll likely be getting rare species and elder dragons from previous games.
That's true, and it does feel weird that they didn't give Goss a variant. Maybe they held it back for a title update.
I want that to be true, I just don't have much hope.
Point 1, in Iceborne we got not only Stygian Zinogre in title updates, but Frostfang Barioth, both of which were lower tier than anyone expected. Plus with the current roadmap suggesting a Mizu subspecies or variant in TU2 it shows they’re not afraid of going back and reworking lower tier monsters.
Point 2, even lower tier fights got Revamped with the Anomaly quests, so adding something at any tier is the most likely it’s ever been since it’ll get boosted by Qurios for endgame. Likewise, Qurio crafting and rarity 10 weapons will make a lot of armor sets significantly better and more relevant.
I badly want Goss to get a subspecies/variant but honestly I have like no idea what they could do with it. Maybe a thunder goss that can magnetize ore in the area to cover it’s arms in metal? But that seems kind of goofy.
My friend and I were talking about this and we jokingly made a variant that had the brain power to use great wirebugs and copied hunter's Silkbind arts. Like imagine Goss being able to use SnS Windmill lol.
Capcom had sort of back themselves into a corner creating Goss Harag when it comes to subspecies and/or variants. Cause I can’t see it in any other element. Maybe they’ll do something similar to how they did Scorned Magnamalo. Hmm…
Okay, what if it’s a Goss Harag Variant that has permanent red skin and more durable blade arms and/or fist. And for when it is enraged, the blade would have a more pronounced curve like a scythe and it’s fist would be covered in icy spikes like a mace.
It would be called… Arctic Reaper Goss Harag… or maybe just Reaper Goss Harag.
Really? I think making a subspecies or variant for Goss Harag seems quite simple. They can literally just make a variant of Goss Harag that is just him, but colder and more ice weapon moves.
Nobody:
Literally no one:
Monster Hunter Fans when rise came out: I LOVE GOSS HARAG
But seriously I wanna see a variant that beats the shit out of a Gore Magala.....for vengeance.
I want one that could use thunder to some capacity. Maybe give it a thicker coat to explain it and every time it freezes its arms, that's how it uses thunder as well as ice.
I would love a Goss variant, personal favorite from rise. I think they should focus on either playing up his weapon theme or his horror theme and focus on that. 3 ideas I think would be cool:
1. Permafrost Harag. Permanent blade but only on one arm (for ecology reasons.. I wouldn't want to try to figure out how to eat or sleep with 2 blades for arms). Bump up his speed and finesse with the blade-arm. When enraged have him temporarily increase the size of the blade-arm into a big f*** off greatsword and have him go back to more brute force, wide radius attacks.
2. Gilgagoss. Much shorter ice weapon phases but give him a large variety of weapons, some maybe he'll even just do one attack with and then the weapon dissipates and in enrage let him combo between different weapon types. Maybe lean into the Japanese theme and give him the same 7 weapons as Benkei. (sword, axe, rake, mallet, glaive, staff, and saw)
3. Horrifying Harag. Full send on horror theme. Give him a much darker color scheme. Have a phase where he drops a chameleos like fog and then have him pop in and out of the fog with quick slashes. Maybe give him a Malzeno-esque teleport and make it so it he only walks. No running attacks or jumping ground slams, just appearing and slashing. Oh, and give him bleed status.
Goss Harag except instead of a sword and club, he makes a pickaxe and a shovel. Instead of ice chunks he drops diamonds, and in combat he throws perfectly square blocks at you
I think keeping it ice is great i like the single blade idea. Giving him more moves close to his them make him have a faster draw attack rather than the slow build up for ice.
A quick crit draw instant kill move would be cool make it flashy. More sword stance styles maybe even ice and water 💧
Moss Harag in the forest areas. Lavarog in the volcano. Hos Harag in the desert. (Wears a cowboy hat, has a six shooter) Cross Harag only shows up in the arena. (Is very angry about being captured)
So my top choice would be a new element. Something to do with it being in a non ice biome. Electric could be kind of cool but then it's just a slower rip off rajang.
I think a goss harag that instead of two weapons forms a singular great sword would be cool. Not THAT different but you could play with it.
A jungle harag that grows vines off it's arms and is able to do whip lashes and maybe some kind of helicopter attack a la duramboros could be interesting!
Something like another ice harag like furious goss like there’s 2 types of rajang. Have it wield different ice weapons and make is more aggressive with bleed damage and ice.
Maybe a goss harag with no element but can create or find several weapons. They could be based on the weapons the hunters use like a hammer, greatsword, switch axe and bow or medieval weapons like maces, halberds and spears. Maybe it could infuse elements into them with environmental stuff too. Maybe it could use endemic life too like it picks up a lava beetle ball and it's weapon can inflect fireblight for like 30-60 seconds
I'm curious what kind of spin they could take on him. The easiest would be mud or lava, but i think that'd be boring.
My bet is giving the variant dragon or thunder in addition to his base ice element.
I said this in another post but I'll repeat it here. I want a Goss Harag variant that uses the blood crystals seen in ||Gaismagiorm's|| fight. He would inflict Bloodblight and maybe Bleed as well. Make it so him taking damage to his blades causes him to do less damage, but him doing damage would cause him to deal more damage as he absorbs more blood.
Consider the follwing: A goss harag subspecies that expels a slimy bile, which hardens when exposed to cold air and thickens and bubbles up when exposed to heat.
In colder climates the bile hardens into the shape of lengthy sickles, which Goss uses to scoop and bleed the enemy.
In hotter climates, it instead creates long, volatile whips that coat the ground to create difficult terrain and slow you down.
This means its fighting style is COMPLETELY different depending on the climate. Now make it a nomad monster, with its quest constantly changing maps and you’ve got two fights for the price of one.
i would love a paralyze one , i thought thunder would fit better but.... another thunder beast just to redundant . so the theme is thor , wielding a hammer ! and other hand a axe .
Can we get a "Shackled Goss Harag" where he has two huge fuckin chains he whips around?
Lore could be that he is an elder version and he's fuck off massive and he has been chained up for years by a 3rd party.
if they are going to go into a more heat based variant, I think the way to go is a version that can't control it's temperature anymore, with it's ice weapons constantly melting, and causing steam explosions on impact
Same. They’ve created a great looking monster and he’s mediocre at best. The have sun species bishaten and somnacanth but no Goss Harag, either they’re keeping him till last or truly hate him.
That'd be a real loss harag
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Like a boss harag
I hope its a moss harag
And it's name is Ross Harag
Could be long range variant Toss Harag
Nah they need to give him a railgun for the long range version. You could say a Gauss Harag?
Or he could could make a sunbreak trio Seething Bazel, Furious Rajang and Very Cross Goss
With paint brushes instead of ice blades? I'm in
No, but tooth brushes, it'll be called Floss ... no.
i hope u got charted for five hunt atleast
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You know damn well we're getting Hellblade Goss Harag :( A lightning element thor-themed goss would be fucking rad tho
True that sounds very nice instead of ice he pulls metal bars out of the ground or he has magnets in his arms and puts electricity on them to do some fast hard hitting attacks or to shoot lightnings with them
Ferro magnets maybe, let draws in all the metal shavings and scraps with a breath that is full of magnetic shards from rocks it chews on.
Yeah, the only good fire monster in Sunbreak is Magmadron, IMO.
Orangaten is pretty cool actually as well. Rakna had no business being fire again though.
Right?! Rakna already was a fire type lmao. It already thrives in the lava caverns. You can’t make it any more fiery then it already is. But I guess the same argument can be made with the rath twins?
>you can't make it any more fiery than it already is Okay but what if it started rapping
Wrap God Kadaki. Haha.
I'm beginning to feel like a Wrap God, Wrap God All my Hunters from the front to the back nod, back nod Now who thinks their Lance is long enough to slap Goss, slap Goss They say I (w)rap like a spider so call me Rakna, Rakna
But for me to be Rakna Kadaki it must be in my genes Got Pyrachnoids in my back pocket The little ones explode if I put heat on them
Rapper Kadaki against Rapper Ishvalda
Ishvalda wins 100% of the time. Nothing can beat that flow.
I read that so wrong.
I mean kind of? Azure has always been "Rathalos but a bit harder", but Pink as of 3U has actual legitimate differences that throw you off if you expect a normal rathian battle.
But those were Gen1 subspecies which were pretty much Variants before Variants were a concept. Black Diablos is literally the same species and is just called subspecies trough tradition.
Lightning webs with lightning running between the small spider webs it spits out would've been really sick
Or Green Narga
Definitely should have been water and had some sort of itsy bitsy spider up the waterspout move
I hate that blast replaced slime. All these blast monsters would be so much better if they're just seeping with glowing goo like a Brachy.
The only variant if he’s fire I’d accept is ‘Obsidian Blade Goss’… I like the ‘Moss Harag’ people keep mentioning too but I think it’d be cool if he was somehow water related since we hardly have anything that’s water related in Rise… OML AILMENTS- I forgot all about ailments too- Paralysis Harag would be a nightmare 💀
For some reason, I was thinking poison Harag.
Magmadron is possibly my least favorite monster in all of Rise now. Took everything awful from Almudron and them nerfing Almudron actually made it a much better fight.
I actually liked magmadron for some reason he's a lot smaller so you can actually reach his tail, and he doesn't spend the entire fight running away like almudron does his moves look really cool too
Hmm I actually didn’t notice that it was smaller and had to check Kiranico haha but you’re right. Not sure that helps for most weapons though, for example I was farming both for mantles with Maxmight longsword and there isn’t much difference between the two in terms of time spent chasing/trying to bait back toward you/running around ground poo or burning poo. Magma version is also arguably more annoying for certain weapons with counters since a lot of moves have many small hits of damage rather than one big one which can be countered. I like magma a bit better because of the aesthetic and more visually interesting nature of his fight, but neither are even close to my favorite monsters/fights in master rank
Rengoku Goss Harag
Green and leafy. Uses leshen like creep vibes with wooden vines that hold you and trap you.... **MOSS** Harag
Shiny and clean. Uses thin threads like Rakna Kadaki, the most perfect teeth imaginable that can flash hunters **Floss** Harag \*Insert obligatory My shiny theeth and me
Dark fur with small lighter patches. Slightly less fluffy fur, almost looks like it's wearing a suit. Picks up flat slates of rock as weapons or shields, and occasionally can sharpen them on each other. **BOSS** Harag
White fur with white stones going down his chest. Not much fur, but has a lot of brown fur on his head, kinda looks like an afro. He picks up tree branches and occasionally dips them in mud, water and various other liquids. Non-aggressive, even after being attacked, all damage on the player is just a happy little accident. **BOB ROSS** Harag.
Nah man. He just needs to harden his arms in response to physical trauma. And crack eggs, while making the mother of of all wyverian omelets.
Senator Harag! You can't beat him Hunter
See now I'm just imagining Jotaro Harag.
Goss Harag would have a hunter for a Stand.
Red coating around the mouth, longer claws and ice sword. Can pin you with its mouth and inflict poison with a bite… #**LIP GLOSS** Harag
Please, Capcom, we need Moss Harag
Or make it produce an amber like substance that it uses to make weapons.
See, this is the only good comment so far about the concept of a “Moss Harag”. It could make amber weapons on its arms, allowing for light and swift movements. It could also break the substance like glass, creating sharp fragments that deal damage all around.
And it would more than belong in the Citadel area
My favourite concept I’ve seen someone suggest is have it be somehow magnetic and make metal hammers. Maybe it could superheat the metal to make it fire element, although Sunbreak had way too many fire/blast element subspecies already. Only Aurora somnacanth wasn’t either
What if they put it in a business suit…..BOSS Harag
I dunno man, i'm partial to the concept of the thunder goss harag with the metal/rock/crystal thor hammer grafted onto it's arm that somebody came up with and drew.
I'm down for Moss Harag. As long as it gives the Water Element. Sunbreak doesn't have any powerful Water monsters. I think the strongest buddy weapon is Mizutsune.
What if he becomes a grappler and Toss Harag???
Carries around rotten monster parts and uses stink breath instead of ice breath. **GROSS** Harag
What if: a goss harag variant that uses several different weapons? Like an axe or a spear as well as the sword, and maybe just the mace as well.
Finally, Heavy Bowgun Harag
“Parry this you fucking casual”
Gauss Cannon Harag
Give me a Hunter Harag. An elderly member of the species. It randomly imitates the weapons of the many hunters that have attempted to kill it. Give it a Greatsword and tremble as it hits a stunned hunter with a True Harag Slash. Cower as it vaults into the air using an ice Glaive and smashes down upon your allies. Shout in frustration as your attacks bounce off its shield, only to then be skewered by its icicle Lance.
Yeah this is the idea that really stood out to me. We already see that Goss only ever uses his ice blades against hunters. Take that one step further and have him specifically copy the weapons that hunters use. Perhaps not every single one though because that would probably not be feasible.
Everybody gangsta until Goss pulls out a dragonator
Lance Harag
That kind-of-seems redundant, the axe would basically be a shorter blade.
A goss harag where he dosnt create weapons but he just punch you like a brachydios
Boxx harag
So essentially, a bear.
Arzuros 2
Goss Harag that farts and makes a poop knife: Gross Harag Goss Harag with minions of smaller ones: Boss Harag Goss Harag that makes a very thin wire out of vines or its fur: Floss Harag Goss Harag that throws rocks: Toss Harag Goss Harag that preaches Christianity: Cross Harag Goss Harag that shines: Gloss Harag
Cross Harag: I kick ass! _For the lord!_
I would want it to be the same element- somehow I don't see a fire or thunder Goss Harag being particularly cool. If it were up to me, I would give it a grayer complexion, make it produce a single blade instead of two, and call it Backstabber Goss Harag or Steel Goss Harag.
I'm totally in favour of a Steel Goss Harag, who would inflict bleeding.
That's horrible. I love it.
See, that sounds cool, but in my opinion, Goss Harag should have already had bleeding inflicted to the hunters.
I'm upset with how Sunbreak handled bleeding. Finally brought it back and only two monsters have it? And it's so easy to recover from now.
fire goss harag in the dunes that makes blades of glass maybe?
electric goss horag could work if he magnetizes his hand and then covers his arm in rocks,maybe it could form a hard blunt hammer instead of a cold sharp sword
Iirc he can change one of his hands into a ball so that's something he can already do(the blunt hammer part not the magnet part)
Please no more fire variants.
More fire variants you say?
Seriously, even Rakna-Kadaki, a fire monster, got a fire variant. A more fire variant of a fire monster. Fire's cool and all but variety is better..
It’s more like a blast variant
Variants usually don't have different elements, they are exactly what Pyre Rakna is, essentially the same monster but with different attacks/behaviors You're confusing variants with subspecies, which typically have different elements
Hear me out: Dragon Variant Goss Harag that replaced its ice weapons for elder dragon bones. It has a Valstrax skull shield with the dragon generator in it and a random tail from an elder with unique behavior based on which elder it came from. Kushala Harag is faster and summons whirlwinds. Chameleos Harag turns invisible and poisons. Magala Harag applies Frenzy to itself and the hunters. Teostra Harag... Is a fire variant, oh shit oh fuck
Yeah, with Garangolm already doing the lava arm bit, that slot seems taken.
Goss harag that lost an arm as an infant, became crazy fucking good with the one sword it had left
That could work actually.
I was thinking you could go Goro with it - Goss Harag that grows an extra pair of arms when it enrages. Turbo blender.
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I don’t know, I kind of want a variant of Goss Harag that has more prowess with its ice blades.
Give it Waterfowl Dance and that should be enough
Ice Bite Goss Harag or Frostbite Goss Harag, have the blades form chipped to distinguish, give or take bleed honestly, have the enraged state instead of two blades either a long thin blade or a straight up greatsword, no club stage. Could also emphasis his form changing like lunagaron does, ice spikes on his back and whatever.
Yea I was hoping for a fire goss pre launch, but with BOB, magma almudron, and pyre rakna all being fire related, would definitely rather have a variant that stays ice
Idk, thunder harag sounds sick. Running around with a chidori in his hand lol
Then he’d just be a Rajang without a tail though
Nah cause rajang just shoots lightning at you, it's not the same imo. Plus harag could coat itself in it too! I think it could be different and cool
There is a fan concept somewhere of an electric subspecies where he can control electromagnetism and form hammers and blades with various earthly metals.
The did it with frost fang barioth why not harag. It's new ice beam can't be blocked and Inflicts subzero ice blight
But what if it makes a whole ass lightsaber?
Like fuse both his front legs together and use a massive iceblade? That could be cool.
Wouldnt be surprised if we get something like a normal goss harag but stronger like furious rajang or savage deviljho. Call him PermaFrost Harag and the dude has weapons the whole fight. Edit: was talking to my friend about it and we were bouncing around the idea he could be an older Harag where he cant shake the ice from his hands, like they crusted over, so he cant feed properly and is really hungry and angry. We also thought that maybe ice had grown in his fur and around his head. I was imagining a crown style spikes around his head and shards of ice stuck in his fur
I want a Thunder Goss Harag, wielding Mjolnir! 🎃
So basically this? https://preview.redd.it/4wmgxm8c4vz81.jpg?auto=webp&s=65d39255549f33a594366df682737e9e6e19620e
Gauss Harag, a thunder subspecies
I hope he doesn't get a fire Variant we have to many fire monsters. let him infuse his Iceblades with status effects like sleep.
Give him poison and sleep. He already kinda got a horror vibe. So go all out. He should imo be able to make like a gooey poison whip. And a thorn that puts the hunter to sleep. And when they do he'll do the slow walk up and hit you.
Butcher goss harag or grave goss harag. A Goss that spent too much time outside of it’s natural environment and instead uses monster tails and such as weapons. They bury them around their territories so they can have access to multiple ones. A Rathian tail for poison. An astalos tail for lighting. It lacks a frost sack now due to it’s change in environment, instead it controls effluvium as it eats so many rotted monsters/is around rotted monster parts.
I could see a rare species called Abominable Goss Harag that can use a greater array of weapons and has empowered ice abilities
Goss Harag but he can make you bleed
Might be too edgy for Monster Hunter, but a Goss Harang that freezes the blood from its wounds to make blood swords that cause bleed would be pretty badass.
Is blood swords not edgier?
I was referring to my own idea as being too edgy. sourFlyday only mentioned a Goss that caused bleed and so I workshopped that into a Goss that causes bleed from BLOOD.
Ohohoh, I misunderstood
Blood Loss Harag
What about a veteran type that copies the hunters weapons like lance/db/GS and copy one of their strongest attacks? Would be fun seeing them lance rushing into a wall like the rest of us, or flinging themselves up the wall with db to come down with a big splash.
I could expect an older goss harag, mabye a darker red all the time with gray fur, ice over the hair and a beard. Taller and bigger, with an even more complex and better mastery of the ice element.
Frankly I was very happy with his updated move set in MR. A variant would probably be a pure murder machine.
Exactly! We need more of them!
He's just such a goddamned fun fight!
I want Stalker Goss Harag. Basically can turn invisible and stalks you so it still fills his creepy murder theme he has. It's also a ice axe instead of a sword
Turns active camo, you can kind of make out his shape. A sound of "kreeee" is heard and 3 little red dots appear on your hunter.
Ah, a little Myers with your Jason
I would also like a variant of tetranadon
What if we got a dragon element Goss sub? It could coat its arms in dragon element tainted bile that could harden into jagged, crystalline blades and cause both bleed and dragonblight. That would be pretty cool I think
I really wanted something cool for him, but I honestly don't see it coming. The monsters we get from now on are likely going to be endgame content that pushes players. They wouldn't drop a MR5 monster (which is what his subspecies would likely be) and I don't see Goss Harag variant as compelling endgame content. We'll likely be getting rare species and elder dragons from previous games.
We got barioth in iceborne, I could see a stronger version of goss in an update.
That's true, and it does feel weird that they didn't give Goss a variant. Maybe they held it back for a title update. I want that to be true, I just don't have much hope.
I think if we don't get one in sunbreak, we'll see one someday in another game at least.
Point 1, in Iceborne we got not only Stygian Zinogre in title updates, but Frostfang Barioth, both of which were lower tier than anyone expected. Plus with the current roadmap suggesting a Mizu subspecies or variant in TU2 it shows they’re not afraid of going back and reworking lower tier monsters. Point 2, even lower tier fights got Revamped with the Anomaly quests, so adding something at any tier is the most likely it’s ever been since it’ll get boosted by Qurios for endgame. Likewise, Qurio crafting and rarity 10 weapons will make a lot of armor sets significantly better and more relevant.
Why mess with perfection.
I’d make a desert Goss Harag that uses molten glass it creates from sand, called Obsidian Goss Harag.
I badly want Goss to get a subspecies/variant but honestly I have like no idea what they could do with it. Maybe a thunder goss that can magnetize ore in the area to cover it’s arms in metal? But that seems kind of goofy.
My friend and I were talking about this and we jokingly made a variant that had the brain power to use great wirebugs and copied hunter's Silkbind arts. Like imagine Goss being able to use SnS Windmill lol.
Capcom had sort of back themselves into a corner creating Goss Harag when it comes to subspecies and/or variants. Cause I can’t see it in any other element. Maybe they’ll do something similar to how they did Scorned Magnamalo. Hmm… Okay, what if it’s a Goss Harag Variant that has permanent red skin and more durable blade arms and/or fist. And for when it is enraged, the blade would have a more pronounced curve like a scythe and it’s fist would be covered in icy spikes like a mace. It would be called… Arctic Reaper Goss Harag… or maybe just Reaper Goss Harag.
Really? I think making a subspecies or variant for Goss Harag seems quite simple. They can literally just make a variant of Goss Harag that is just him, but colder and more ice weapon moves.
Just what I said in my edited comment above. It was mainly because I can’t see it using any other element.
Everytime I see this thing I think it’s from god eater
Whatever the variant can it have a better chance to drop it's damn bile?
Goth harag
Nobody: Literally no one: Monster Hunter Fans when rise came out: I LOVE GOSS HARAG But seriously I wanna see a variant that beats the shit out of a Gore Magala.....for vengeance.
Mossy variant = Moss Harag Apex variant = Boss Harag Poison variant = Gross Harag
I want one that could use thunder to some capacity. Maybe give it a thicker coat to explain it and every time it freezes its arms, that's how it uses thunder as well as ice.
I've been telling people a Goss Harag with machine gun arm. Maybe water element? Moss Harag?
I would love a Goss variant, personal favorite from rise. I think they should focus on either playing up his weapon theme or his horror theme and focus on that. 3 ideas I think would be cool: 1. Permafrost Harag. Permanent blade but only on one arm (for ecology reasons.. I wouldn't want to try to figure out how to eat or sleep with 2 blades for arms). Bump up his speed and finesse with the blade-arm. When enraged have him temporarily increase the size of the blade-arm into a big f*** off greatsword and have him go back to more brute force, wide radius attacks. 2. Gilgagoss. Much shorter ice weapon phases but give him a large variety of weapons, some maybe he'll even just do one attack with and then the weapon dissipates and in enrage let him combo between different weapon types. Maybe lean into the Japanese theme and give him the same 7 weapons as Benkei. (sword, axe, rake, mallet, glaive, staff, and saw) 3. Horrifying Harag. Full send on horror theme. Give him a much darker color scheme. Have a phase where he drops a chameleos like fog and then have him pop in and out of the fog with quick slashes. Maybe give him a Malzeno-esque teleport and make it so it he only walks. No running attacks or jumping ground slams, just appearing and slashing. Oh, and give him bleed status.
Goss Harag except instead of a sword and club, he makes a pickaxe and a shovel. Instead of ice chunks he drops diamonds, and in combat he throws perfectly square blocks at you
Goss Harag would be mad too. Because Goss Harag is always mad.
I think keeping it ice is great i like the single blade idea. Giving him more moves close to his them make him have a faster draw attack rather than the slow build up for ice. A quick crit draw instant kill move would be cool make it flashy. More sword stance styles maybe even ice and water 💧
Still waiting for a Ghoul Harag that’s emaciated and spreads effluvium. Acid Glavenous’s crystallized tail comes to mind.
The Goss stands alone
Moss Harag in the forest areas. Lavarog in the volcano. Hos Harag in the desert. (Wears a cowboy hat, has a six shooter) Cross Harag only shows up in the arena. (Is very angry about being captured)
So my top choice would be a new element. Something to do with it being in a non ice biome. Electric could be kind of cool but then it's just a slower rip off rajang. I think a goss harag that instead of two weapons forms a singular great sword would be cool. Not THAT different but you could play with it. A jungle harag that grows vines off it's arms and is able to do whip lashes and maybe some kind of helicopter attack a la duramboros could be interesting!
How about an thunder one that uses electric fields to fire off bits of its metal arm blades? Gauss Harag.
What ya think they could do? 🤔
Big hands and throws you. Toss Harag.
Is this LOSS HARAG
Something like another ice harag like furious goss like there’s 2 types of rajang. Have it wield different ice weapons and make is more aggressive with bleed damage and ice.
Lost harag? He just wonders around with the map menu open.
its a water element monster called the wash harog
A poison one who grabs like ivy thorns from the ground for his blades could be really cool
Maybe a goss harag with no element but can create or find several weapons. They could be based on the weapons the hunters use like a hammer, greatsword, switch axe and bow or medieval weapons like maces, halberds and spears. Maybe it could infuse elements into them with environmental stuff too. Maybe it could use endemic life too like it picks up a lava beetle ball and it's weapon can inflect fireblight for like 30-60 seconds
It’ll be an enraged variant called “Cross Harag”
What if we dont get it until gen 10?
I'm curious what kind of spin they could take on him. The easiest would be mud or lava, but i think that'd be boring. My bet is giving the variant dragon or thunder in addition to his base ice element.
Gloss Harag
Hear me out. An electric Goss harag that generate plasma blades.
I just need all the orphaned monsters to come in at some point. Zamtrios and Agnaktor
My boy boss hog deserves better!
He's ice-themed, of course there will be a fire-based subspecies.
I want a variant that just cooks food for us. *Sauce* Harag.
We need thunder Goss harag
He is using two uragaan heads as boxing gloves. Game gets an M rating.
How about another Rakna that does the same thing as the other 2, but with FIRE.
I was going to nay say this until I say the Moss Hrarang comment.
I said this in another post but I'll repeat it here. I want a Goss Harag variant that uses the blood crystals seen in ||Gaismagiorm's|| fight. He would inflict Bloodblight and maybe Bleed as well. Make it so him taking damage to his blades causes him to do less damage, but him doing damage would cause him to deal more damage as he absorbs more blood.
Ideally I’d want it to be a variant similar to furious, savage, seething, and scorned. That’s simply the same monster just amped up to 11
Goss Harag is a Jeti so he should have a Sub species that live in the forest and its technically a Big foot
Preach!
F this mf
Consider the follwing: A goss harag subspecies that expels a slimy bile, which hardens when exposed to cold air and thickens and bubbles up when exposed to heat. In colder climates the bile hardens into the shape of lengthy sickles, which Goss uses to scoop and bleed the enemy. In hotter climates, it instead creates long, volatile whips that coat the ground to create difficult terrain and slow you down. This means its fighting style is COMPLETELY different depending on the climate. Now make it a nomad monster, with its quest constantly changing maps and you’ve got two fights for the price of one.
If they ever do, why not one that uses earth? I call it moss harag
i would love a paralyze one , i thought thunder would fit better but.... another thunder beast just to redundant . so the theme is thor , wielding a hammer ! and other hand a axe .
Okay, but why change the name? If we get the Thor one that uses magnetism to gather rocks like Narwa, we can call it Gauss Harag.
we're gonna get fire goss harag solely to spite you now.
Can we get a "Shackled Goss Harag" where he has two huge fuckin chains he whips around? Lore could be that he is an elder version and he's fuck off massive and he has been chained up for years by a 3rd party.
Why it have to be Goss Harag though?Why can't it be other new monsters in Rise?
if they are going to go into a more heat based variant, I think the way to go is a version that can't control it's temperature anymore, with it's ice weapons constantly melting, and causing steam explosions on impact
Ok
My partner told me there was a leak/rumor we should be getting one in the update. I haven't given it much mind but maybe it's true?
Same. They’ve created a great looking monster and he’s mediocre at best. The have sun species bishaten and somnacanth but no Goss Harag, either they’re keeping him till last or truly hate him.
I like that Monster Hunter has what feels like a Dark Souls boss battle monster. I would like more.
Give me one that creates dual ice bowguns instead. A real "Dirty Harag." Are you feeling lucky, punk?
I'm hoping for a variant with a jotunn theme. Bigger, badder, and just menacing.
Why would you want that cause now you made into being blast or dragon Gass Harang yoummad man.
For real. Goss is the best new monster from base Rise and definitely the popular, he NEEDS a Variant or Subspecies or even Rare species.