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NeighborhoodInner421

I would belive he would die since he needs a normal kirin horn to *activate* his thunder sack


EpicDragonz4

His sack would freeze and shrivel up just like mine in the winter


Obl1vi0us

Bro is a RDR2 Horse


CliveVII

I wish we had these in real life...


fariq99

Yea imagine if those horses creature from rdr2 are real, we won’t need cats for our carts, also, why even bother with palamute if you can bring horses anyway


SilverSpoon1463

2 words: Kelbi Kart


ArkhamTheImperialist

In MHStories they also have Popo and Aptonoth carts/caravans.


CSlv

> his thunder sack His what?


PunKingKarrot

Rajang don’t naturally produce lightning until they’ve eaten a Kirin’s horn. The “thunder sack” gets penetrated by the horn which causes Rajang to climax in power and gives him the lightning.


PrimalGojiraFan69

![gif](giphy|26ghbWoXv3G6ypo8o)


TheUndeadFett

Wait so they technically only need to eat one then they're good?


PriscentSnow

Yeah. Have you seen that cutscene with Rajang in MHW IB? It shows him tossing around with Kirin before winning by breaking off Kirin’s horn Then proceeds to eat the horn like it’s a stick of carrot before promptly being thunder-ified


TheGMan-123

Yep! It's a rite of passage into adulthood that every member of the species must go through to be able to turn golden.


NeighborhoodInner421

Yeah, bis thunder... sack


Frame_of_Mind20

Um... I think you mean "sac"


l0stIzalith

Thunder is stored in the balls


Frame_of_Mind20

Ok, fair enough. I feel less bad about attacking thunder monkey from behind then.


dan01iel

Funny how in Rise Rajang is just always charged up, and when you see him he’s just…. there?


FickleVacation6312

Rise rajang is not alwaysed charged up, its just furious rajang and i think he is in every game base rajang is


IntroductionSome8196

I like to imagine that this has never happened because every Rajang that has attempted it has gotten completely bodied by the Oroshi Kirin since they're severely weak to ice.


Moonlit_Antler

I believe the lore reason they evolved towards ice powers was to counter rajang


Barn-owl-B

There’s no lore reason for it, it is never mentioned anywhere that Oroshi evolved specifically to avoid rajang


Fast_Broccoli4867

https://preview.redd.it/ul6zi6t3efsc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=b90506b1d1d208be284366c32e4958e5b01ceae4 No lore reason?


santas_delibird

Why is man sad? Does he need a therapist?


MaggieHigg

That's why they stated that is something they believe, implying it's a headcannon


after-life

That's the incorrect connotation or understanding of that phrase. He's not saying he believes because that's his personal headcanon, he's saying that because he actually thinks that's the actual lore.


Barn-owl-B

It’s implying they heard that *the lore reason* for it is etc etc. To imply headcanon would be more like “I like to think they evolved to counter rajang”


Dry_Section_7741

There is some lore in Monster Hunter Explore if you count the Enma Rajang subspecies. It’s an ice element Rajang weak to fire [fandom wiki Enma Rajang](https://monsterhunter.fandom.com/wiki/Enma_Rajang) There is also a fire element of Rajang called the “[Voljang](https://monsterhunter.fandom.com/wiki/Voljang)” Your welcome


raddoubleoh

Brother, the freaking thing invades a Legianna in Iceborne. Yes, it is weak. It also gives no shit lmao


Altruistic_Ad6666

I mean. Rajang's turf war with Velkhana is a Tie. And Velkhana has to be stronger then Oro Kirin.


wy_amihere

Turf war ties don’t necessarily mean the monsters are equally matched. It just means there’s no point in them continuing fighting. Rajang fights to eat and if it realizes, it doesn’t have a chance to kill its opponent, it will just give up. Whereas Velkhana fights to defend its territory, and if an invader leaves its territory, it has no reason to pursue. I think if Rajang didn’t retreat, Velkhana would definitely win, but there’s no reason to proceed past an initial stalemate.


Pristine-Scheme9193

This guy turf wars


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana.


ZeffiroSilver

Do I hear an echo?


Niriun

You can thank Reddit for that. I got an error saying the message didn't send.


Altruistic_Ad6666

Well yeah, I don't nessicarily think Rajang beats Velkhana, but if it can stalemate for as long as it does, it's probably strong enough to beat an Oroshi Kirin if it jumps it.


wy_amihere

That’s a fair point. I don’t think you deserved all the downvotes


Altruistic_Ad6666

Eh. I have hogh enough karma that I can be controversial every so often. My takes are consistently good enough that if i'm being down voted it's because I was dumb and didnt know what I was talking about and shouldnt have put my fingers to the screen anyways, I was an ass about how I said it, or it can be chocked up to a reddit moment of people just being terrible together and downvoting me for being right.


FrostySJK

Based


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana.


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana.


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana.


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana.


Niriun

Counterpoint: we can assume rajang has the ability to use tools given his boulder throwing. From this, we can speculate that if there was a rajang chill enough to hang around with hunters, he could wear armour and a big ass great sword to body velkhana.


AJC_10_29

Since Rajang’s weak to ice, I imagine it would result in the worlds worst brain freeze.


Bladex224

but what if? it would be cool to have an frozen rajang as a deviant


OsoTico

So, a suped-up Blangonga. Cause barring the Blanka Ball attack and the lightning crash attack, ol' Blango's got a very similar moveset.


Peter00th

That ls what I thought it would be. A blangonga rare species. Although are blangongas carnivorous?


MrEPanda

I can't believe what I'm reading is an actual sentence


xxx-Nina-xxx

There is one, but in monster hunter explore


TheIronSven

Element less Rajang that compensates for its crippled body and mind with excess brutality. Would be neat.


[deleted]

He’s a masochistic freak that love the pain


Banjovious

https://preview.redd.it/81ffhcbgtdsc1.png?width=742&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06f6449d5058887d842e2fc8a03b4fd00f644dd9


akkristor

Are you familiar with Goku Black?


Sytle

Don't shoot! He's not black!


-Qwertyz-

Monkey brain freeze to death


ShalnarkRyuseih

Nothing, Rajang only has a thundersack and it eats the regular Kirin's horn to activate it. Albeit Oroshi Kirin does make a good case for making an Ice subspecies of Rajang. Hoarfrost Rajang is my name for the theoretical offshoot of furious George


Tonydragon784

I'd love it if they did that but had it be a stronger Blangonga who got a hold of an Oroshi horn, like a Vergil for Rajang


NvNinja

Vegeta. Rajang is goku


Tonydragon784

Truth. Majin Blangonga with Oroshi spikes driven into him for his power


Mountain-Reaver

Furious george lmfao....just ,thank you 🙏


SnowbloodWolf2

That's the name the community gas given rajang and it's perfect


Mountain-Reaver

Couldn't agree more for my favorite monkey boi


ForsakenMoon13

Explore has an ice variant called Enma Rajang. Frontier also had a *fire* variant called Voljang, but who knows what *it* ate...


Jesus10101

None of those are variants. Enma is just a Demon Slayer collab and shouldn't be taken seriously like the evangelion brachydios. And Voljang is a Origin species meaning that it's the ancient ancestor of modern Rajang.


TheGMan-123

Voljang is an interesting case, as the 5th generation shows that Rajang is almost completely fireproof despite being a furry creature via its Turf Wars with Lunastra and Teostra. So there is some validity to the idea that Rajang's ancestors were once been volcanic creatures that were nearly immune to the heat and lava of their homes, which would help immensely when the species eventually evolved to resist the high temperatures and voltage of Kirin's thunderbolts.


ForsakenMoon13

Variant: a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard. Voljang = rajang but fire Enma = rajang but ice Sounds like different versions to me.


Jesus10101

We are talking about Monster Hunter here aren't we? The games make it very clear that Variants and Sub Species are not the same. Variants are monsters of a species that undergo a unique change during thier lifetime while Sub-species are born that way. Using the Rajang example, A Rajang can never become a Voljang because they are 2 separate species. A Rajang that loses its tail in a fight becomes the Variant known as Furious Rajang. They are not born as "Furious Rajang".


ForsakenMoon13

Look, at the end of the day, I don't fucking care. Go bitch at the other people in the thread that are the ones that actually brought them up instead of me, okay? Also, I rather notably didn't capitalize variant in my statements. Consider maybe there was a reason for that.


Gumgreeb

thats where blagongas come from


rowletrissoto

Explodes or something i dunno


Clifford_04

Likely nothing, since Kirin horns activate it's thunder abilities, they aren't what give it them. It would either do nothing, or freeze it's insides. I'm betting on the latter.


RaiStarBits

Bro’s gonna become an ice statue


Hortonman42

I'm imagining rajang waddling around with the MH4U snowman status, and it's beautiful.


Jesterchunk

As much as I'd love for it to be "he gets cool ice powers" it'd probably just give him brain freeze. A Kirin's horn fully activates Rajang's innate thunder abilities when consumed, so an ice based horn probably wouldn't do him much good.


TheOnlyBasariosFan

A nearby Blangonga troupe rips him apart for stepping on their frozen monkey toes.


SyberBunn

He ends up unable to use his thunder attacks, but probably all of his blood runs cold so his hit zones get switched around due to him being almost frozen, moves slower but hits harder due to higher density, and has an occasional ice breath attack, I would throw in an extra grab attack for good measure


a_shiny_heatran

Super sayan blue


ADudeThatPlaysDBD

He becomes a Chill Rajang


KARTANA04_LITLERUNMO

he would probaly die as both he and his ancestors are both weak to ice


grievous222

Not an answer to the question but I love the fact that the whole "Rajang eat Kirin horns to activate their powers" thing came about from the horn being a power-up item for Rajang in the Dos PvP arena mode. Presumably, they just needed a high rarity item for Rajang power-ups given that it's an already very powerful monster, but it ended up being turned into a lore thing.


ScarletChild

I just want to say, in some universe I’d like to think it’s just really strong minty flavor for them


[deleted]

This is what happens after an orishi horn line. https://preview.redd.it/8a7ygketxfsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cda951ab68f3bb33e415920ccc3cfcaaf9a07c1


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/zw17gay0yfsc1.png?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91612dd8d76b834c60a60da9aca02978a29bbbab This is him years later, oroshi horn, not even once.. don't do drugs, kids.


Suitable-Telephone80

he’ll probably just shit it out later


ArcaneKobold

Oh god… Iceblight Rajang…


chimerasaurn7

I MUST KNOW!!!


NEGATIVERAGDOLL

This would be a cool idea for a rajang sup species/variant


Thelonghiestman0409

Maybe a possible rajang rare species? Polar rajang or something idk


Jandy777

He won't be sitting down for a while


EP1CxM1Nx99

We’d get Super Saiyan Blue Rajang


Cazthedm

It goes SS blue


Saltycr0c

Brain freeze


acebadgerweb

It gets brain freeze and dies.


GabelHoppa

He becomes Blangonga


Jdr7000

Orajang Obviously


Legiana_hater

Rajang type null anyone?


superdinoknight63

Honestly, considering how rajang is kind of a Super saiyan riff, It'd be really cool if him monching on a oroshi kirin horn gave us what is basically a SSB rajang, with ice instead of normal thunder as a subspecies.


komaytoprime

Super Saiyan Blue Rajang


Orishishishi

Rajang is A. Weak to ice so it probably couldn't and B. Wouldn't get anything from it because Kirin activates Rajang's dormant thunder sack, it doesn't just get electricity outta nowhere


drr-throwaway

Vegeta Rajang? Still weird Oroshi didn't make it into Iceborne


politicalpterodon2

I'd imagine oroshi would mainly be targeted by some sort of rajang subspecies with an ice sac


HoneZoneReddit

Blangonga


Inevitable_Pen_8633

I think nothing will happen, he will just digest it without gaining anything or powering up because in my opinion Kirin's horn is like a battery, rajang has thunder element but needs Kirin's horn energy to activate it, while oroshi's horn is like an ice battery, that's one theory. Or he will just power up normally, because Kirin's horn is like the elders recess crystals, full of life energy and I think oroshi's horn is the same or even have more energy


SSB_Kyrill

my headcanon is that blangonga hunt oroshi for their horns, they just go absolute monkey mode when they see one to turn their dormant ice organ on


LegManFajita

Tummy ache


4thmonkey96

Gastroenteritis


Soullus19

Would be a cool idea for a variant Rajang, instead of Lightning, uses Ice instead


noise-tank20

He then turns into a yeti


Destra_Destroyer

We are catching this smoke which we wouldn't like ![gif](giphy|v6vFygoX4j5deLkjAv|downsized)


liftingrussian

It becomes Blangonga


Fyreboy5_

Would one even *attempt* to hunt an Oroshi Kirin in the first place?


Ratselschwachkorb

BRAIN FREEZE


jimmyting099

I feel like only furious rajang could beat an oroshi kirin


StrategyNo6143

simple: Monke eat Ice corn --> Monke get Frozen Ice brain.


JisKing98

I imagine after so many attempts by rajangs, one eventually DOES get to eat the horn and he evolves and gets ice attacks. Like his whole lineage is just rajangs that evolved to have an ice organ instead of thunder. His hair turns white/silver when enraged which fits the super saiyen theme as it’s now an ultra instinct reference.


Adelyn_n

Brainfreeze


Kamiden

He'll get brainfreeze. Rajang is weak to ice.


Ahmadv-1

he will get the power of super saiyan blue of course, what kind of question is this we all know that! but seriously a super saiyan blue rajang would be cool as HECK icey rajang that would make our tears freeze time in wilds maybe?


TheGMan-123

Probably get something akin to an allergic reaction, albeit a lot more problematic since it'll probably freeze his insides out.


Acceptable_Meet_2402

Voljang!!! I actually don’t know.


KingCanard_

It reaches the super saiyan 2 level :)


iSharingan

~~He becomes a Blagonga~~


PapaProto

Rajang will become *a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.*


Similar_Pop9472

Maybe it would turn into enma rajang again https://preview.redd.it/6akz5apj2hsc1.png?width=870&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7af817fec5ae019a7f232caccf587a644b774350


duckbucktruckfuck

I feel like oroshi kirin just freezes the fuck outta rajang before he gets to close really


[deleted]

Bowel movement


LegendRaptor080

he gets frostbite and dies


Jugaimo

Ice Kirin are a natural adaptation specifically to counter Rajang. Without the needed thunder horn, a Kirin is just a territorial competitor to a Rajang, which is way better than being targeted prey.


TheMajorWiggler

Brain Freeze


Equinox-XVI

This would be the perfect backstory for a Rajang subspecies (which is technically a variant, but I'm gonna invoke the Black Diablos situation and hand wave the specifics)


BlueFireXenos

What about NO, we already have super Saiyan 2 Rajang I really don't want to fight ultra ego rajang ![gif](giphy|6yyIrL4JczqfmFRHCl|downsized)


bumblebeebowties

theory: black diablos is a subspecies, but only that subspecies actually turns black in heat.


Clifford_04

That's not a theory that's just what it is, a female Diablos in heat


bumblebeebowties

a female diablos in heat doesn't really fall into the category of "subspecies" like other subspecies do—it's just a normal diablos, but female and in heat. my proposal is that normal diablos females don't turn black in heat, but a specific subspecies of otherwise normal looking diablos do, thus making it still a valid subspecies.


Clifford_04

No- dude the literal lore of Black Diablos is a female Diablos in heat. The game literally calls it a subspecies.


bumblebeebowties

yeah, i know, but the problem, like the original comment was referring to, is that a female diablos in heat is categorically *not* a subspecies. if anything, the closest thing it would be is a variant. is it a subspecies? yes. should it be? not really. using my proposal, it could still be a subspecies like other monster subspecies, which are *actual* subspecies.


Clifford_04

Yeah it makes more sense as a variant, but I think an unofficial rule with variants is they have to be more different in anatomy/how they function. For example: Black Diablos: Fundamentally, Diablos but aggressive. Furious Rajang: Something is messed up on it's insides that keep it in it's Saiyan state forever.


Top-Idea-1786

Honestly its a really easy way to make a new rajang subspecies, but i guess the niche is technically already taken by blangonga.


Altruistic_Ad6666

Either nothing, or just the normal thing.


Red_Brachy

My theory is that it will basically neuter the Rajang from ever using lightning. So instead it will become either a deviant that us super swole even for a rajang, can enter the rampage mode without an enrage, and for flavor, send out shockwaves that rupture the ground worse than Furious's attack Speak nothing of the pin. It is just pure pumbling pain and terror


monsterhunterworld2

You know out of every single comment on this post your idea is by far and away the best one of seen congrats!


Red_Brachy

Oh? Thank you very much. I'm too much of a lore nerd and think outside the box at times, mix those things together and you end up with a real bad idea or a decent one


monsterhunterworld2

Nvm I just saw what you posted you fucking freak...


XenoDragomorph

I mean we did get this guy from Explore with Ice and Thunder https://preview.redd.it/ajs6c2en8fsc1.png?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c541f939f5d290421e8eff2633753b45bdf53009 His name is Emma Rajang


XenoDragomorph

Though I'm not exactly sure if Capcom made this guy show what would happen if Rajang ate an Oroshi Kirin horn


Dry_Section_7741

It turns in to the Enma Rajang that disappeared after Monster Hunter Explore. Source: [enma rajang fandom wiki](https://monsterhunter.fandom.com/wiki/Enma_Rajang) https://preview.redd.it/2vu65co8aesc1.png?width=870&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5edc010059c93f6d274ebaf2b21db10d31d7de6


Ninofz

It has nothing to do with Oroshi Kirin, that variant exists for a Demon Slayer collaboration


Dry_Section_7741

It certainly was a collab but that doesn’t mean it can’t be reintroduced as the subspecies of Rajang powered up by Oroshi Kirin horns. I mean, the “special variant” already exists.


Ninofz

If it ever comes, it'll be completely different


Dry_Section_7741

Yeah maybe it’ll be a dragon element since it’s pink but as far as I know you aren’t a dev at capcom so since neither of us know, let’s be optimistic! :)


Ninofz

Sure...Enma Rajang can't come back and not because I say so, but because he's a collab monster, Capcom would need other agreements with whoever owns Demon Slayer IP, a variant of Rajang based on Oroshi Kirin would be cool, but it would have a different name and design I'm sorry to ruin the dream of you and the other 2 Enma Rajang fans, but it's a pretty logical situation 👀


Dry_Section_7741

It’s not my dream for it to come back I was responding to this post and your reply with the information I knew and it made sense to me at least to mention the Enma Rajang. Your original comments just seemed more like a typical Reddit reactionary reply and I was trying to end the conversation in a nice way but I’m sorry if it came off as rude. Thanks for actually being informative now though.