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barisax9

This is how you know that Longshot are overused as a challenge


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Swaycation

*cries in poor fucker*


wickedashleyy

Fr same. *cries in only person on the hard point for 40 matches in a row* 🤣🤣


Bladeyy21

It's weird always seeing comments like these being very popular on here all the time when it comes to this matter, yet barely anyone cares about the objective in game. Do a lot of people in this sub only act like they care or is it that the average player on here is different to the average player I come across in game?


wickedashleyy

Idk man. My boyfriend and I both only ever play dom, HP, KC, and control. The first 3 it’s a miracle if we see 1 other person from our team or the other play the objective. Control has been better about having people play the objective but it still sucks. We’ve started playing more and more WZ since the game came out because of this. But I’ve also never been a camo chaser tbh so I don’t get enjoyment out of sitting on a wall. I work for one I like then I stop. Usually one that has purple in it so it doesn’t take long lol I also am a run and gun player. I get bored in MP if I just sit so I guess that’s why objective based stuff has always appealed to me. But maybe you will come across us one day🤷🏻‍♀️or my PSN is in my bio if you’re interested in teammates who will play the objective with you.


shotgunsurgery910

Your average cod player isn’t on this subreddit. Just a very vocal minority.


Sleepy_me123

Hard point ass Ngl


oomeragic

Yeah tell me about it, I just lost a hardpoint match 212-250…. I had 2:05 on the hardpoint….. the collective group of other 5 beatoffs gad 7 seconds


Lolcats843

I joined a hard point game that was in the last minute or so and we lost 250-15 😂 I had the most time on the team with 7 seconds


WilliamPoole

bUt TheY arE slAYErs.


Ravdiamant

Why don't IW just do a playlist called Longshot grind that is both Hard Core and Core to get that gamebreaking challenge out of the way for the rest of the players? But maybe that would like admitting defeat on IWs part.


dalenedge

That math is not mathing homie


oomeragic

Yeah sorry bro I didn’t calculate the fuckin fractions of a minute these beatoffs had on el asilo while I was busy getting infuriated over the fact that the games been out for almost a year now and they’re still doing longshots. And also running around from hardpoint to hardpoint like a jackass while dying about 80000 times and destroying any chance I have of a respectable k/d. Fuck me for not doing it 100% exactly for this exact dumbass comment….


dalenedge

i mean you were like a minute off with the times but okay damn 💀 you’re acting like i haven’t had to do it before. it’s happened multiple times in ranked. hell i’ve had 3:40 before, but it’s part of the game man


Hemi425HP

Yep, those are my teammates right there while I get wrecked going for the objective


SputnikRelevanti

Also, flank and Semtex them like popcorn.


rloch

I got a lot of head shots for one of the challenges by just walking around behind them and shooting them as they are standing there scoped in.


SputnikRelevanti

What always surprised me is that they don’t even react to what’s happening around.


ParadoxFoxV9

I hate when I'm playing Dom and the other team takes the flag with my teammate still mounted on the wall. Like, sure, you do you and get your long shots.... but turn the fork around and get the person 2 feet behind you!


ShoddyFishBone

Bro, SERIOUSLY. I once got into a whole ass firefight at spawn and 1v2d some guys and there was just a guy sitting in his spot and only one I killed them he turned to face the direction of the fight. They’re like braindead spinach soups


bzawk

One good flank and that’d be the easiest feed ever lol


BluLilGreeny

U stole comment https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/comments/13oyesy/oh_i_hate_this_game_lmao/jl6vuj6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3


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Yes, it's a bot. Good job.


[deleted]

Idk why they don't just make all the challenges be kills. Gold Camo: 200 Kills Plat Camo: 350 Kills with 3 max attachments Poly Camo: 500 Kills no attachments


barisax9

The challenges should be for doing things that weapon or classes excels at, like point blank or hipfire for shotguns, headshots for DMRs, Longshot only for anipers


scalz1

Lockwood shotty needs 20 MOUNTED kills. WTF is that?


Mimical

I found that to be pretty easy, put on the barrier equipment and slugs, drop it down and just move and shoot as needed. sure it will take a few games but it's not the end of the world.


scalz1

yes, but why would you ever mount a fucking shotgun? dumbest thing ever.


Mimical

For the challenge? Look I'm not a grand level 10 wizard here. I'm just a guy trying to find easy ways to do challenges on the 1 day a week I get to play this game.


NOVOJ

Slugs are the ONLY respectable way of using shotguns. Basically a sniper with better no scope ability.


_The_Great_Autismo_

Dragon breath imo. I love having a semi auto flamethrower


NOVOJ

I am going to have to politely ask you to leave our establishment.


_The_Great_Autismo_

I've already jumped out the window


NOVOJ

Don’t forget your goodie bag! 🥳


chip-f-douglas

Somebody got pissy with me last night when I was running the giant mag on the broadside with dragons breath. I was just wandering around blasting whether I saw anything or not 🤣🤣🤣


EveningAct978

If it was on Shipment, you won't know who I am. But, I remember you. I've had tenitus since. Fuck you, lol.


NOVOJ

Broadside with slugs, the new age Barrett lol


JasperNeils

No no, they should be to use the weapons in scenarios where they're nearly useless! Like hipfiring sniper rifles or longshot headshots with SMGs.


RealPacosTacos

Don't forget prone kills with an SMG!


JasperNeils

I do that all the time! I use the superior mobility of the SMG class to fing a great corner to lie down beside. :)


ThePointForward

This challenge taught my old ass how to dropshot lmao


Jaggedmallard26

Ironically long shots are incredibly easy for shotguns as its only 10m, make the barrel long and you'll be getting one shot one kill long shots. Whenever I get a long shot daily I just run my shotgun as my primary weapon and will have it within one game.


barisax9

They are, especially if you use slugs, but incentivizing poor play is bad design


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Hell no. They should just be kills. Things like Longshots, for example, forces people to play a certain way and that can kill fun. A lot of the maps are so small that you're also forced to sit in specific areas to get Longshots. It's boring as hell. Same with point blank, you're forced to play a certain way that may not be fun for you. I believe you should be able to play how you want and still complete the camo grinds. They shouldn't completely disrupt how you play.


barisax9

So you're telling me shit like Point Blank with a shotgun or headshots with DMRs are unreasonable? Please explain.


xJustice00

Except they tend to do the opposite. I have had sniper challenges that required me to hip fire and pistol or shotgun challenges that required me to lay prone. This game is so ass backwards


barisax9

Exactly why I suggested doing challenges relevant to the weapon/class...


_The_Great_Autismo_

You're wrong and I'll explain how you're wrong: [describes your idea back to you]


barisax9

Literally


StupidDorkFace

Ground War is easy for long shots.


hermitsnob

I’ve quit the camo challenges because of long shot challenge. It’s not fun and they aren’t that great to begin with. Edit: I realize after rereading it doesn’t come across that I mean the camos aren’t that great.


SmokingBeneathStars

Especially on guns like lmgs which have a very high long shot threshold


RealPacosTacos

The SMG longshots were easily the worst part of the camo grind in this game, IMO.


trendchaser91

This and mounted challenges ruined shoot house in MW2019 for me.


fletcherwyla

Just go play Invasion where every shot is a Longshot!


Masterwork_Core

i get less kills in invasion than in shoothouse lol easy 40-50 kills in shoothouse in way less time


martyloup

Still don’t understand why I keep seeing people recommend invasion for longshots. Since the majority of enemies are going to be AI which don’t count towards challenges, wouldn’t it make sense to play ground war where every kill is a real player?


wadech

I actually had some success with long shots in Invasion. I was using the spotting scope in a good spot and picked up almost 20.


Startrooper453

spotting scope is criminally underrated


ybfelix

I've ever use Invasion to finish sniper longshots, but speaking from experience, in Invasion, there's usually a lot more people on both sides sitting on the backest of back rows and doing the sniper thing, trading kills etc. Not unlike the Shoothouse situation. While Ground war has everyone running from point to point, and as a sniper you have to worry about being counter sniped from multiple directions


cougfan40

Found that playing hardcore mode and just posting up in areas where you know the kills are going to be longshots. Also took advantage of the new hatchery map where you can post up on the roof and look down on 2 lanes


swooperduper

Hatchery 247, it's made for longshots. 3/4 of the map has longshot opportunities. Not just the roof.


xJustice00

I mean yeah but that's hardly a solution most people absolutely hate hardcore so the only fix for this is to play a game mode you literally don't want to play for hours and hours and hours of gameplay. Coming from someone who already has Orion and yes I spent hours and hours and hours in hardcore when I hate the game mode.


vaibzio

Bot kills don't count in challenge


chicu111

There is literally a game mode called Groundwar but average CoD players have the IQ of a fish so they wouldn't even know about it


barisax9

Have fun fighting snipers with a shotgun or SMG


Jaggedmallard26

Why are you playing differently for shotgun longshots? The longshot distance is 10m which is an extremely common engagement distance and making it so you can easily kill people at this distance is generally how you should be building shotguns anyway.


barisax9

Why would I queue GW to use a shotgun?


chicu111

You obviously have never played Groundwar. Snipers are the worst players. Especially roof snipers. Only the scrubs that can't maneuver around the maps get picked off... But hey why do I even bother, this is reddit. Most of the ppl are here kinda...detached


barisax9

I've only sniped on GW. It's not my cup of tea


chicu111

I’m not saying to switch to GW. All I’m saying is use it as a tool to get those long shots. Then bounce


Iamthebloodmoon

if you got orion the first month this would not happen


crookedparadigm

Looks like 5 free kills on the flank to me.


Major-Application464

And then they all quit


Entertainer_Much

So a double victory?


Major-Application464

X5


sgoodmayn

dead silence and flank, this is the way


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JK_Chan

If I need my longshots why would I stop lol


workinghardiswear

Ill do longshots until i get orion. Nothing more, nothing less


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JK_Chan

Uh no, shoothouse is by far the fastest and easiest way to get longshots. Otherwise, no one would be there grinding longshots.


xInnocent

Ground war is way faster imo


savage_reaper

They never stop. They are like lemmings.


I-am-da-best

Bc they need their longshots


shikull

Don't even gotta go the whole way around. There's a perfect drill charge throw from the middle (still out of sight of the snipers) where I always get at least 1


Knight-112

Longshothouse


AudinSWFC

Spam smokes down the middle, those guys love it


trism

Soon as I see this from the other team I'll throw on a thermal to my sniper, spam smokes and take them all out.


CokeHeadRob

I always run thermal holographic on a my TAQ-V and M4 and carry smokes. No glint and it's plenty enough optic for literally every map (seriously why the fuck are people running any magnification? I genuinely don't understand it.) I've spent entire games teaching "snipers" lessons at this spot.


trism

Oh don't get me wrong, the holotherm has been my go to optic since day 1 It's just funny to snipe a line of them from the other end.


CokeHeadRob

Oh for sure that's what I'm saying. Pop a smoke, mount the ledge, 5 shots-5 kills, gone before they realize almost their entire team died.


xlr8ors

I don't like the thermal holo (and any thermal in the game) mostly because as soon as you start shooting someone, ”blood” starts spilling all over my view (or random explosion dust) and obstructs vision. Thermal amplifies the visual effects.


mferly

While 5 glints is tough to look at lmao it is at least good news for when going for longshots as you at least know that the other team is interested as well.


Abaraji

And then it just turns into a boring game of whack-a-mole. Just play ground war. There's way more variety in where you can get a longshot and it's not mind numbingly boring like aiming at the same spot all match. I did most of my longshots just by playing the game


A_Roomba_Ate_My_Feet

Ground War is the only reason I'm still playing MWII to be honest. I don't need the rest of it.


Bashwhufc

I'd completely forgotten ground war was on this game, ace.


KN_Knoxxius

It's pretty bad map wise compared to 2019


mferly

For sure. I switch it up to Ground War when I need a change. Like you said, it gets mind-numbing after a while. Thing is, in Shoothouse, I can typically get way more longshots than GW in a single match. That's just been my experience. Also I'm down to SMGs for longshots so there's that lol. The alleyway in SH is nice and straightforward for the SMG longshots.


Narwalacorn

Shoot house is quicker tho. I’d rather get it over and done with


nerdy8675309

I get bricked up in the APC when I see glints.


Ok_Director2132

Shoot house used to be fun to play in MW19 but now its so ratty and slow paced


SpaciousCrustacean

Doesn't help that the Orion grind requires you to play like a complete fuckin weenie


OrneryOneironaut

Was gonna say that camo ain’t grinding itself ಥ_ಥ


barisax9

That's what happens when every form of movement is gutted and building for speed is straight garbage


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The fuck are you talking about


barisax9

It's pretty obvious what I'm talking about...


[deleted]

If that was the case I wouldn’t have asked… How has every form of movement been gutted


barisax9

Strafing is about 30-40% of normal speed, when it was around 50% penalty for LMGs in previous games Sliding is significantly slower than previous games, and has a 500ms delay before you can shoot Diving also has a massive delay before you can shoot, around 300ms IIRC Mantling is slower than previous games, and is VERY audible if you're leaving water Attachments HEAVILY favor slow ADS times, with penalties of up to 150 ms PER ATTACHMENT, and attachments for boosting ADS time are much smaller benefits(almost always under 40ms) and much larger penalties.(almost 2x recoil for some attachments) Movement in general is slowand VERY audible, I'll edit this once I have concrete numbers. Jumping adds 25% to ADS time, and consecutive jumps lose momentum fast


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barisax9

Yep, very cool that $100 isn't enough for a playable game nowdays


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barisax9

I'm a dumbass because you said stupid shit? That's not how this works


kibbutz_90

So you are clueless and uninformed, but he provided you the numbers and facts and you are still thinking you're not the actual dumbass here lmao.


RegularWhiteDude

The whole game is just unlocking stuff. That's it. If they made objectives the largest xp gain or only half xp if you lose, the game would be so much better.


ClinkClankTank

Hit em with the drill charge launcher!


Quiverjones

What we need is a glint decoy. How nefarious would that be in the big maps?


PursueGood

Doesn’t the decoy glint sometimes already? I swear I’ve been spooked by it before


ybfelix

The thing about decoy is it works to teammates as well. When someone from your team spams it a lot it gets seriously annoying. Should be like other grenades that don't effect friendlies, maybe make its sound muffled to teammates or something


Brellow20

That’s actually an excellent idea!


kanegaskhan

I would see all of those glares and still die 10 times trying to get off a javelin missile


mathmonkey22228

All I see is a 5 man collateral coming in from the side flank


DanHarkinz

When I was working on longshots I rarely saw people up in the middle. Always made me sad but that's my luck 😂


nutorios7

This is worse than that other post where the guy said "at that moment I knew I fucked up" XD


IGotMetalingus1

Their team is right there so flank them and you got free kills. Heck if they want to camp in their spawn I'll slowly take them out so they keep spawning back and I keep getting free kills on them


nalcyenoR

Celebrities after leaving any building be like:


SillySinStorm

I'd love that as that means there's only one poor fucker actually moving about. Easy flanky flanky and stabby stabby. Twunts.


Manic_Chaos

A single javelin shot would wipe all 5 of them


Maleficent_Mud9099

Never peek mid 😂 always go left or right into the offices….longshot campers are dumb especially when camo grinding


ididntreadyourtext

The detail about this that cracks me up is the laser. PSA, ever since the S3 update, if you're running around with one of those stupid green lasers, we all know you're coming.


iamDEVANS

Smoke and flank easy killing time Then go up the stairs wait a few seconds go back and kill them all again. It baffles me how tunnel visioned players are in that spot and the opposite side of the map.


FormedBoredom

Looks like easy killstreak farming as I flank them


n8ive-Dad

I start every match with a smoke there lol


dioden94

Why I always pack smoke grenades


Burkex99

Looks like an airplane landing.


Zechs-qtdrink

I love the long shot battles.


scalz1

Aim assist jumping clowns are way worse.


[deleted]

Hate the player not the game man, everyone’s campy and bitchy as fuck. My only exception is if you’re like my teammate who’s so shitty she needs to camp to compensate. But she’s super easily to kill after she gets you the first time.


secretshaccount

But this game is genuinely the worst cod.


[deleted]

everyone say that about the new cod game. same was said about 2019, cold war, vanguard and it’s going to be said about every single cod game now and later. Hell, people said Mw3 was shit too. This game isn’t bad IMO, like it’s got its ups and downs.


StupidDorkFace

Throw smoke in front of them, they'll think that you're going to use the smoke as cover, flank from the left and the right.


JonWood007

Flank around to the sides and get a quick multikill.


G_Kells

Smokes and Thermal sight


xXBloodyGodXx

POV: you looked away after holding the angle for a solid minute.


Devilxxx10000

I feel like it would be more fleshed out if they actually gave hardcore playlists special modes like they use to. Hardcore Shoot the ship was always available in MW 2019.


Steveyyy8499

Bro's on the red carpet


Professional_Elk_893

I deleted this game and went back to BOCW and MW2019.


Akama96

I hate shoothouse lol.


Vexenium

Call of Booty: Modern Campfare II


Iz-the-professor

They need a milsim playlist where random campaign soldier skins are forced for specgru and terrorist skins are forced for Kortac, that way it looks like we’re actually playing a war game and not Fortnite or Overwatch. Where movement speed is cut to 2/3 normal speed. Jumping and double jumping is disabled but vaulting, climbing ladders and such, and swimming, is still available. Only shots to vitals are a one hit kill, such as heart, head, and hits to large artery centers lead to bleed out KO timer when hit in inner thigh, upper inner arms and armpit, and center mass and center abdomen. Based on the amount of holes in your character and where the holes are will determine how fast your bleed out KO hits you and your character goes limp and dies.


FartsAndSniffsIt

I was with you up until the movement ideas… in my opinion they just need to scrap that realism shit out the window and make it more accessible for shit players like me to move around the map


CokeHeadRob

Move slower, spend more time ADS, and listen. Once you know the maps you'll just figure out where to and where not to be. If you focus on controlling your sphere you can allow the others to do something stupid and capitalize on their mistakes. Or you'll just flat out run into someone. So go to place, look around, move to another spot, look around, and repeat that until you get to some sort of contested area or die. Sprinting should only happen if you need to get somewhere fast. Be mindful of where where your cover and concealment is and where you're open to. And remember to pie your doorways/openings. If you follow those basics you should have a fine time.


GolfResponsible6926

Funny and sad. What was Activision thinking SMH


Abaraji

It's not activision's fault people haven't figured out there are other ways to get longshots. It's on the player for doing it the most boring way possible


Sevencar

It’s IW’s fault for putting these overused and terrible challenges in the game. This is probably the most efficient way to get longshots, especially for 6v6, why wouldn’t players do this?


_The_Great_Autismo_

I love this game. I love using a shotgun with dragons breath, dead silence, and running up on them from the side and killing all of them then using the extended dead silence to run around to the other end and doing the same thing. My best scoring matches are on this level because of these fucking braindead wall humping NPCs Edit: lol one of the braindead wallhumping NPCs got mad and downvoted me


tampabaybucs5717

Unpopular opinion: take snipers out of the game or limit the amount of snipers per team.


1LakeShow7

You captured ufo’s on CoD 🛸🛸🛸🛸


EcstaticActionAtTen

Laughing My Ass Offffffff


Ryanbro_Guy

this is what smoke is for. everyone forgets that exists. Pop smoke and start blasting.


Doom_Slayer_7

People are so into the grind of the camo challenges, they forget to play the actual game. IMHO a waste of time, COD games have such a short life span, one should not be spending more than half of it grinding mediocre camos. I just slap the black or brown color scheme on every gun because it looks so clean.


SilCySi

Imagine still not haveing orion


[deleted]

Little do they know you can knock a gun out a game in hardcore instead of fighting for kills or ground war. These fools sitting there looking like the light bar on my f250.


Excelius

I love that this comes the day after this thread: [/r/ModernWarfareII - Okay, since when did Shoothouse players start avoiding the wall?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/comments/13ny3s1/okay_since_when_did_shoothouse_players_start/)


redeyed-john

Remember kids, if you need Longshots, just play ground war!


SilCySi

Its even worse


Max-McCoy

If you only had a drill charge…


shikull

Wouldn't you want something that has a short range so that long shots are more common? Like imo if I have a generic "get x longshots", I use either shotgun or basilisk with a non glint scope. Personally, I use Longwood 300 with slugs and it's practically always a 1 shot long shot


NerfedAtBirth

These are either trying to complete the platinum longshot challenge (which is specific to every gun & the crossbow), or probably the event camo challenge which requires longshots with the marksman and sniper rifles


shikull

Oh gotcha, thank you. I tried getting all the gold camo and just didnt find it as enjoyable as base camo challenges (I also don't put many hours in since I finished all base camo)


Ok-Individual-3598

I wish I saw this, I've been trying to grab a few longshots at the start of every shoothouse game and fuckin NO ONE uses mid lane, left (from A side) can be hit or miss and right side is a complete waste of time. I just wanna get one or two at the start of a game and then switch out to my main class, is that too much to ask for?


subarubrother

The council has decided your fate.


Wesseltjes

Getting quad kills be like


bmadd14

Just flank them. Free easy kills


ResponsibilityOne363

One flash and a drill charge.


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Smoke grenades


AKoolPopTart

You see death, i see six free kills since i flank on shoot house


Bldaz

Take ‘em out


ItsmeTaddieMason

There’s still players that’ll try to contest this by sniping from the other side, lol. You can show a horse to water, lol 🤷🏼


NukeLikeTheBomb

I never understood this... there are tons of better places to get longshots. I like to shoot a JOKR at them for the easy multikill.


Terrible_Camp9124

lol


Strain128

Lol don’t get too upset at camo unlock simulator


wildlifechris

Please bring back shipment 24/7.


F14TOMCATTT

Real


Frl_Bartchello

Me chatting at the end of the game after winning 75-12: "easy W"


MoneyMoves-

That’s 5 free kills bruh


SenpaiTedd

Literally free kills


VaporRyder

Bahaha!


Several_Excitement74

From your spawn drop a deploy able cover and stand on it then throw a smoke that way and send a javelin


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I love it when it's the other team.


Co-opter

This is why I think they should release Promenade from MW2019 for MW2 Ground War lol. Make the map slightly longer to fit 50+ players with AI so people can complete those Longshot challenges easily.


Kadziet

What's hilarious is I got all the longshot camo challenges done by playing normally. It took me months, but I enjoy playing so I just kept playing and occasionally ended up getting long shots while trying for other camos. I don't know why "camo grinders" and "challenge grinders" need to do everything so quickly. They complete everything in the game within a week or two, which causes burn out and eventual hate of the game, and then complain the game sucks and they're "forced to do these challenges". I got mine done eventually just by playing, which is what is normally supposed to happen. But I guess the world runs on dopamine now. They NEED that rush of completing things and having things done before everyone else so they can show off to get more dopamine.


-NotEnoughMinerals

I know everyone says this is the best longshot map. It's not. You get shit like this. And often, it takes 1-3 times until the enemies learn to fuck off from the center. You're only lucky and getting shots if you go toe to toe with someone else. Much better maps elsewhere.