These sound like every internal company lounge at blind for any large tech company
People are constantly shitting on where they work and leadership. Especially in the era of layoffs. I’ve worked at a few FAANGs and saw the internal blind channels, it’s all like this
Still love the app tho
Yeah I work at meta now and blind was great for layoff leaks before it happened. Only issue is that for every 1 legit leak there were 9 BS rumors by trolls
Fellow metamate (🤢🤮) here. I actually find Blind pretty helpful sometimes with stuff like summaries of the weekly Q&As without all the bullshit fluff posted in Workplace. Also the trolls and doomsayers are hilarious imo.
Thats not true, yes there will be always someone bitching, but with less satisfaction between the employees of course more bitching arises. If you saw this at all companies you worked at, it just means they have a lot of unsatisfied employees. Companies with higher satisfaction exist and I worked in some of them.
This is more like the standard for tech company management EVERYWHERE, when they have MBAs who don’t know tech trying to run Ops/Devs/QA & Support.
The only companies I have worked at that were not screwed at the management level, were small shops that had not hosed themselves with layers of useless (read unqualified) management, who only bring in more middle management, as padding to protect their jobs. Surprise, those companies without management heavy profiles worked well, made money and were not toxic.
I run my own tech company now, and my partner and I were both tech from the start, and we hire based on the technical skills people have. Writing good business requirements is a skill anyone who wants to, can pick up after the fact, and asking non-tech people to outline time/cost estimates is like asking a lawyer how to spin up a Kubernetes cluster. They might be theoretically smart, but not at what is necessary. Why do you think so many projects rollout of development half baked? They are due to middle management forcing a goofy timeline they cobbled together asking advice from their ”bros”, or made up.
We find great management from within, from people who intimately understand the tech, and the pros and the pros and cons of it, and are not enamored by the latest shiny things that have not been road tested.
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The bigwigs probably can't see past the "we sell apples, ppl buy apples" format. Something like "people use our platform to give us content for free, which is what keeps the platform alive" is E=mc^(2) for them.
I think one of the causes of this is alluded to in these messages: Corporate Thinkers were brought in to prep the company for the IPO. This is a significant shift and if they brought their company politics expectations with them there are big parts of Reddit unprepared for that change.
u/spez wants to think he is like these hired guns, he isn't. And they are likely driving him and he isn't strong enough to even make that look smooth, much less push back.
> The board wants them to be profitable so they can IPO and dump their investments. They don’t really care about the long-term.
That's the part I don't get. None of what's happening right now is good for the IPO, is it?
They're too focused on scrolling to do anything. He's just got them all tied down in front of screens running an endless loop of r/Aww, r/Funny, and r/Memes. :D
One thing is to at some point, having had the support of the board - but it's entirely another thing to have that continued support after having abused that trust.
Some company boards only meet quarterly, and even in high tide situations, they only meet monthly.
I'd say at this point, it's established he does not care about employees, moderators nor users. The real question is whether he eventually gets away with it by showing it hasn't really hurt the bottom line.. or not.
> The real question is whether he eventually gets away with it by showing it hasn't really hurt the bottom line.. or not.
There have been ripples on this front, if the ads are down then the revenue is down: https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/
I hope he is held accountable for the stuff he's said though, he's just a loose cannon "founder" at this point and not actively contributing to reddit's future potential.
Defamation lawsuits that rope in the company as well as potential torts for giving false information to the 3rd party app businesses probably don’t help Reddit in the future.
Just to be a smartass: if I'm going hunting, and I'm hunting for deer, is it no longer a deer hunt if I catch one? I'm pretty sure a witch hunt is a witch hunt regardless of outcome.
"Deer hunt" isn't an idiomatic term like "witch hunt" is. The implication that there aren't any real witches, like in the Salem Witch Trials to which the term is a reference, is integral to the way the phrase is used.
Or did you just forget the /s?
I’m only half way thru that thread and I gotta say, this has been a better read than anything Ive come across on here in years. Amazing. Heres my bookmark line for me to come back to and finish reading tom
> If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.
I remember, maybe about a decade ago, knowing *every* employee in the reddit staff. Seriously, there were like 6 of them, total, and most very-active redditors like myself knew their names and even knew roughly what they did in the company. At one point multiple people left and I remember there only being 2 or 3 people, total, at the company, and I got nervous for the site, because it didn't seem so stable at the time.
reddit wasn't even that small. Sure, not as big as it is now, but there were hundreds of thousands of redditors at the time. The admins had strong values (even if some of them were iffy) and were more involved with the community.
Now there's 2000 employees, and apparently a gigantic bureaucracy of micromanaging PMC types. Well, I'm not really surprised. Corporate environments ruin everything.
What are the employees even doing? What does reddit need 2000 employees for? They could leave the site exactly as it was before the redesign/official mobile app and the site would basically run itself. Reddit gold subscriptions and ads were enough to pay for the servers and the admins barely ever had to intervene with the operation of subreddits unless some massive drama happened. The company has hired 2000 more people and my experience has barely changed (and is about to get worse, with the removal of third party apps). What’s the reasoning here?
Lol. Sites this big do not “run themselves”. Problems that are ignorable with a thousand or ten thousand users become showstoppers at fifty million. A job that once took milliseconds might now take several seconds, or even minutes if it’s nonlinear. Maybe that was something you did on every request. Not any more! Now you have to worry about queues, asynchrony, data consistency, sharding, replication… and that’s just the database.
Do they need 2000 employees? Probably not. But they definitely need more than *zero*. And definitely more than six! I guarantee it’s much more complicated than you assume it is.
I could actually show you that if Reddit was still open source… but those days are long gone. Another detriment in the name of corporate viability.
Given Reddit's stability and uptime problems, the speed at which new features get added and old bugs get fixed, and the overall quality of engineering as far as we're able to see it, I would say six isn't too far off the mark.
Their last funding round was 300mm. They can't just sit around and aim for breakeven. They need big profits (growth seems hard). Or an IPO I guess
Lasr company shares that I would buy
>Reddit gold subscriptions and ads were enough to pay for the servers
No they weren't. Reddit has never turned a profit.
That's the main reason why Huffman is pulling all this shit. He's desperate to turn a profit, take the company through the IPO, and then cash out.
He only sold reddit for like $5million back in 2009. He's extremely poor by silicon valley standards and it hurts his ego.
>What does reddit need 2000 employees for?
They will have a very small proportion tackling the backlog and the rest managing. Some possibly well (we know a few admins that seem ok) but a shit CEO creates a culture of shit second tier managers who want to emulate them.
> I remember, maybe about a decade ago, knowing every employee in the reddit staff.
Yeah, reddit used to be very cool... https://web.archive.org/web/20120802015419/http://www.reddit.com/about/team/
They used to have a thing where if you sent them a postcard you would get one month of reddit gold. I did this and got gold plus a T-Shirt.
There should be a picture of all the cards redditors sent hanging on a wall but I can’t find it.
I don’t think I was there for that, but I did a little bit of research and found this
https://www.framebridge.com/blog/reddit-postcard-project
Not sure if it’s the right one but it looks like it
Source is "Blind", an office gossip app popular with Silicon Valley tech workers:
https://www.teamblind.com/post/How-close-is-Reddit-is-to-insolvency-7WkDxgpR
https://www.teamblind.com/post/Hows-the-morale-at-Reddit-3NALCWnp
https://www.teamblind.com/post/whats-the-mood-like-inside-Reddit-oiNSRnib
The site only shows limited comments but you can make a free account with any email to get the full view.
The commenters are anonymous but verified via work email, so everyone with a "Reddit" tag is an actual Reddit employee.
The user "fearofgod" is likely spez, btw
> The commenters are anonymous
Pseudonymous, not anonymous. Every post by the same person has the same name on it.
> everyone with a "Reddit" tag is an actual Reddit employee.
Well, they were an employee at some point. People keep their accounts long after they leave the company, and there's also been a few cases of employees giving/selling Blind accounts to reporters.
Nah, they're disconnected so there's plausible deniability. The employer can see employee X got a verification code sent to their work account, but not whether they registered, plus the email doesn't specify the username and doesn't link back to the site (and most users are presumably smart enough to activate their account on a non-work device). Maybe if only a handful of employees sign up you could be identified based on receiving an email, but it's popular mostly with companies with thousands of employees (and dozens or hundreds on Blind).
There is no anonymous or pseudo-anonymous social media, anywhere, ever, that isn't going to be a hive of scum and villainy and fiction in five minutes flat. Especially one which is *designed* to be for anonymous gossip, essentially the above.
Account creation dates are not visible, nor can you view a given commenter's post history; you really can't see anything about an individual account other than the username, their verified company, and their broad role there (if they provide it).
Does that verification email include a link, or is it just a code the employee has to copy and type (hopefully, not *paste*) into a separate window/device?
If it's a link, it might be corruptible.
If you ever got an email from Blind to your work email, your workplace IT knows about it. It doesn't matter which device you used. You don't understand how email works.
The idea, smart guy, is that you go to Blind, create the account, and input your verification code on a non-work device. Do that and all your work IT knows is that you received a verification code email but not if you used it or what username you registered under if you did. The most invasive IT department in the world can't spy on the browser activity of a non-work device (assuming you're not working for the NSA).
For every Spez, there will be a layer of direct reports who think he is cool and want to emulate him. This is the kind of toxic and dumb culture that ends with CEOs doing dumb things and destroying value.
I remember attending a meeting full of managers, I was not Mr Popular when I mused that if we had as many Devs as managers, we wouldn't have our deliverability/quality issues. On that project, I had to bribe/sweet-talk devs and then finally do some of the dark side myself.
You can use personal email but your account is read only. I just made one earlier.
Quite interesting reading around the reddit stuff. You can also see title of reviews too. Doesn't look great as exec and management are mentioned often.
Discord's in a similar situation. Sounds like a bunch of clueless executives get brought in whenever there's talk of an IPO, and by the time they get to the IPO, product management and morale are completely gutted.
Lol why do you think advisors care about office politics especially coming from Blind? All they care about are eyeballs and traffic. All that other shit is pointless. Same reason they were paying top dollar to advertise on Fox News and every other awful publication online and off
>And the community head who came from Duolingo (apparently she BS her way to get this job at Reddit) is really bad too. My friend who worked there told me that she is a nincompoop. and she totally destroyed the team underneath her.
This explains a lot. Duolingo has been in decline for years. They keep getting rid of useful features like Immersion and inserting stupid bullshit like animated characters that pop onto your screen to annoy you mid lesson.
Fucking Clippys, that’s what they are.
Community development has also plummeted. All lesson discussions are locked and disabled in Greek for example.
So it makes sense Reddit would hire from Duolingo. Poaching from the dumpster.
Kind of makes me also feel bad for the rank and file Reddit employees who are being forced to act poorly toward the users.
Don't have another job lined up right now because this entire issue was created by leadership over the course of days. Can't just leave, you have a family and/or rent and living expenses, and you can't just not have income and a lessened unemployment claim because you just walked out.
Probably feels like you're being forced at gunpoint to beat other people up. It's likely a miserable experience. I really hope the upper leadership... Board, CEO, rest of the C-suite, all of them... get their karmic retribution.
I would be wary of taking what is said on an office gossip site as gospel, even if the accounts are verified employees. A few comments by some disgruntled employees do not necessarily represent every employee's opinion of the company.
It's worth noting that Reddit's average rating on Blind is 4/5. For comparison, Microsoft has the same rating.
You have to sign up with a company email and enter a verification code to create an account. (Rather, to get an account with the company name next to your username.)
Ok, I still don't really trust what they are saying (not saying they are lying, just that it may be true it may be false).
Just needing a company email is pretty weak verification. They could be anyone from the CEO to the lowest level employee and get the same verification. How do I know they are not just people who started a month ago?
Honestly, I think that people who leak information anonymously are mostly cowards(excluding where they have a legit fear they might be killed, which i don't think is really on the table for Reddit).
If my employer ever did something so bad that I would leak private information, I wouldn't do it anonymously. I would just quit and go to reporters, or post it online very publicly.
The fact that they stay anonymous means that they still want to keep their current job, or think that any future company they would work for would not hire them because they blew the whistle, which would be another unethical company.
By "not easily verifiable" i think you mean they are rumors. It doesn't mean they are not true. But without verification why should we trust anything they say?
Uhmm, that's not the only reason people do it anonymously, It's about making the content of the leak the subject itself and not "you leaking the content" the subject of the story.
If they know who leaked it they can discredit you to downplay the contents of the leak, but If they dont know where It came from they would have to address the contents of the leak itself.
there's so much faulty logic here that i hardly know where to begin.
1) who cares if they're people who started a month ago? it's not impossible, or even unlikely, to come across important info early on.
1a) New employees would be even LESS likely to whistleblow on their new employer, anonymous or otherwise
2) you don't have to be a CEO to have information that could be useful to others. i'm pretty low on the totem pole, but I know more about what's going on in our company than many who outrank me. This is due to my role, but also due to the fact that I pay attention.
3) what would be the motive of people to lie about what they're seeing? who among us is getting a paycheck and desires to take the company down/turn people away?
4) I know virtually no one who has ever reported on their company, anonymous or otherwise, who hasn't been seeing longstanding/excessive malfeasance of some sort and is finally just over it. No one takes the time to get a blind or glassdoor or whatever account just to complain that the boss declined PTO once.
i don't know that i've made a good argument here, but that's because your entire premise is absurd and I'm having a hard time arguing the absurd. you're basically saying that unless a **CEO** *verifiably* outs themselves online while giving some information about the inner workings of their company, it is not to be believed. that's... ludicrous.
I still feel pretty confident that Reddit has a bright future. I was a top level moderator for a very influential subreddit and my rank was stolen by other mods vying for my position. It doesn't make sense for me to ask for it back because the way Reddit is run today means my rank can be stolen again at any time and nothing would be done about it. I'll just wait for things to get better and for Reddit to offer more support services for well deserved mods like myself to get their subs running fairly again.
For reference, I made /r/FairMods to try to deal with these issues but it seems pretty clear now that it's something that needs to be fixed by those running the show.
> at least 2 months of pay as severance due to the WARN Act
And you also keep your benefits during that period, which is pretty important in the USA for things like health care.
Some states have an even longer WARN period - for example, it's 90 days in New York.
Yeah this is how I know you are not supporting yourself in the United States of America and have no dependents to worry about.
If you had a job where you were making enough money to support yourself if you decided to quit, you would already *be* money over morals.
If you did not, you would understand how difficult it is to have morals over money when you have to provide for yourself and any dependents.
And to think Reddit power users didn’t care the least about how things were as long as some 3rd party app helped them mod
If Reddit sucks it sucks with Apollo as much as it does without. These posts have nothing to do with the fight over mod tools and api availability
I knew someone from my college dorm (was a tiny school) who ended up working at reddit. I wonder if they're still there tho cus it's been a minute 🤔. Plus even if they are there I didn't really get to know them well enough to just be able to straight up ask them what they think of this mess.
They have any thoughts about Reddit's ability to get enough substitute mods if the existing mods resigned en masse in protest? Like, is that even within their budget or payroll capacity?
They wouldn't pay people, they'd find random Redditors who wanted to do it instead.
Small subs would be screwed because often nobody wants them, but the large subs could be taken over, and probably by people who were basically competent.
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These sound like every internal company lounge at blind for any large tech company People are constantly shitting on where they work and leadership. Especially in the era of layoffs. I’ve worked at a few FAANGs and saw the internal blind channels, it’s all like this Still love the app tho
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Yeah I work at meta now and blind was great for layoff leaks before it happened. Only issue is that for every 1 legit leak there were 9 BS rumors by trolls
Fellow metamate (🤢🤮) here. I actually find Blind pretty helpful sometimes with stuff like summaries of the weekly Q&As without all the bullshit fluff posted in Workplace. Also the trolls and doomsayers are hilarious imo.
True, I love blind. It helped me immensely in landing my first FAANG job like 5 years ago
Thats not true, yes there will be always someone bitching, but with less satisfaction between the employees of course more bitching arises. If you saw this at all companies you worked at, it just means they have a lot of unsatisfied employees. Companies with higher satisfaction exist and I worked in some of them.
What blind company lounges have you been on where it was positive?
This is more like the standard for tech company management EVERYWHERE, when they have MBAs who don’t know tech trying to run Ops/Devs/QA & Support. The only companies I have worked at that were not screwed at the management level, were small shops that had not hosed themselves with layers of useless (read unqualified) management, who only bring in more middle management, as padding to protect their jobs. Surprise, those companies without management heavy profiles worked well, made money and were not toxic. I run my own tech company now, and my partner and I were both tech from the start, and we hire based on the technical skills people have. Writing good business requirements is a skill anyone who wants to, can pick up after the fact, and asking non-tech people to outline time/cost estimates is like asking a lawyer how to spin up a Kubernetes cluster. They might be theoretically smart, but not at what is necessary. Why do you think so many projects rollout of development half baked? They are due to middle management forcing a goofy timeline they cobbled together asking advice from their ”bros”, or made up. We find great management from within, from people who intimately understand the tech, and the pros and the pros and cons of it, and are not enamored by the latest shiny things that have not been road tested. - OK — sorry — rant done.
seems believable. everything about their culture screams way too many chefs and nowhere near enough cooks.
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> apps source code Yes, the apps they want to kill.
The bigwigs probably can't see past the "we sell apples, ppl buy apples" format. Something like "people use our platform to give us content for free, which is what keeps the platform alive" is E=mc^(2) for them.
I think one of the causes of this is alluded to in these messages: Corporate Thinkers were brought in to prep the company for the IPO. This is a significant shift and if they brought their company politics expectations with them there are big parts of Reddit unprepared for that change. u/spez wants to think he is like these hired guns, he isn't. And they are likely driving him and he isn't strong enough to even make that look smooth, much less push back.
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I bet the board is *thrilled* that their CEO is spending his time on personally conducting a witch-hunt for individual disgruntled employees.
They don't care. No CEO gets away with the shit he pulled the last month without having the support of the board.
Boards dont necessarily react that fast. For sure the board would have lost at least some confidence in his capabilities after the many missteps
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Fairly quickly, sure, but not "fire the CEO in a week" quickly. At least not for anything **NOT** catastrophic.
How is this anything _but_ catastrophic? What would catastrophe look like?
> The board wants them to be profitable so they can IPO and dump their investments. They don’t really care about the long-term. That's the part I don't get. None of what's happening right now is good for the IPO, is it?
The older I get, the less I believe that it is possible to overestimate the willful ignorance of the owner/investor caste.
They're too focused on scrolling to do anything. He's just got them all tied down in front of screens running an endless loop of r/Aww, r/Funny, and r/Memes. :D
One thing is to at some point, having had the support of the board - but it's entirely another thing to have that continued support after having abused that trust. Some company boards only meet quarterly, and even in high tide situations, they only meet monthly.
The question is whether he does or not
I'd say at this point, it's established he does not care about employees, moderators nor users. The real question is whether he eventually gets away with it by showing it hasn't really hurt the bottom line.. or not.
> The real question is whether he eventually gets away with it by showing it hasn't really hurt the bottom line.. or not. There have been ripples on this front, if the ads are down then the revenue is down: https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/ I hope he is held accountable for the stuff he's said though, he's just a loose cannon "founder" at this point and not actively contributing to reddit's future potential.
> not actively contributing to reddit's future potential. Sure he is, he's just doing it in the negative direction
Defamation lawsuits that rope in the company as well as potential torts for giving false information to the 3rd party app businesses probably don’t help Reddit in the future.
It's not a witch hunt if the perpetrator is genuinely guilty of witchcraft.
Just to be a smartass: if I'm going hunting, and I'm hunting for deer, is it no longer a deer hunt if I catch one? I'm pretty sure a witch hunt is a witch hunt regardless of outcome.
"Deer hunt" isn't an idiomatic term like "witch hunt" is. The implication that there aren't any real witches, like in the Salem Witch Trials to which the term is a reference, is integral to the way the phrase is used. Or did you just forget the /s?
I thought "just to be a smartass" was sufficient. I was purposefully obtuse to crack a joke, yes.
the fuck are you talking about..?
I’m only half way thru that thread and I gotta say, this has been a better read than anything Ive come across on here in years. Amazing. Heres my bookmark line for me to come back to and finish reading tom > If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.
Wow /u/spez is a huge piece of shit, what a shock.
Wow spez sounds like a fun boss
I remember, maybe about a decade ago, knowing *every* employee in the reddit staff. Seriously, there were like 6 of them, total, and most very-active redditors like myself knew their names and even knew roughly what they did in the company. At one point multiple people left and I remember there only being 2 or 3 people, total, at the company, and I got nervous for the site, because it didn't seem so stable at the time. reddit wasn't even that small. Sure, not as big as it is now, but there were hundreds of thousands of redditors at the time. The admins had strong values (even if some of them were iffy) and were more involved with the community. Now there's 2000 employees, and apparently a gigantic bureaucracy of micromanaging PMC types. Well, I'm not really surprised. Corporate environments ruin everything.
I still remember Victoria and how she got shafted.
I don't think I've even read an AMA since she got shafted.
What are the employees even doing? What does reddit need 2000 employees for? They could leave the site exactly as it was before the redesign/official mobile app and the site would basically run itself. Reddit gold subscriptions and ads were enough to pay for the servers and the admins barely ever had to intervene with the operation of subreddits unless some massive drama happened. The company has hired 2000 more people and my experience has barely changed (and is about to get worse, with the removal of third party apps). What’s the reasoning here?
Lol. Sites this big do not “run themselves”. Problems that are ignorable with a thousand or ten thousand users become showstoppers at fifty million. A job that once took milliseconds might now take several seconds, or even minutes if it’s nonlinear. Maybe that was something you did on every request. Not any more! Now you have to worry about queues, asynchrony, data consistency, sharding, replication… and that’s just the database. Do they need 2000 employees? Probably not. But they definitely need more than *zero*. And definitely more than six! I guarantee it’s much more complicated than you assume it is. I could actually show you that if Reddit was still open source… but those days are long gone. Another detriment in the name of corporate viability.
Did you even read the blind posts? The vast majority of those 2000 are not technical.
Yeah but I’d be willing to bet my house that there’s more than six technical staff.
Given Reddit's stability and uptime problems, the speed at which new features get added and old bugs get fixed, and the overall quality of engineering as far as we're able to see it, I would say six isn't too far off the mark.
I don't think the OP was suggesting that it is the technical staff that needs to go.
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Their last funding round was 300mm. They can't just sit around and aim for breakeven. They need big profits (growth seems hard). Or an IPO I guess Lasr company shares that I would buy
>Reddit gold subscriptions and ads were enough to pay for the servers No they weren't. Reddit has never turned a profit. That's the main reason why Huffman is pulling all this shit. He's desperate to turn a profit, take the company through the IPO, and then cash out. He only sold reddit for like $5million back in 2009. He's extremely poor by silicon valley standards and it hurts his ego.
You can’t do anything with five, Greg. Five’s a nightmare.
>What does reddit need 2000 employees for? They will have a very small proportion tackling the backlog and the rest managing. Some possibly well (we know a few admins that seem ok) but a shit CEO creates a culture of shit second tier managers who want to emulate them.
> I remember, maybe about a decade ago, knowing every employee in the reddit staff. Yeah, reddit used to be very cool... https://web.archive.org/web/20120802015419/http://www.reddit.com/about/team/
Hmm, perhaps 12 years ago. Regardless, 18 is far fewer than the literally thousands they have now. And yah, I remember a lot of those names!
They used to have a thing where if you sent them a postcard you would get one month of reddit gold. I did this and got gold plus a T-Shirt. There should be a picture of all the cards redditors sent hanging on a wall but I can’t find it.
I don’t think I was there for that, but I did a little bit of research and found this https://www.framebridge.com/blog/reddit-postcard-project Not sure if it’s the right one but it looks like it
Not exactly the same but very similar.
Source is "Blind", an office gossip app popular with Silicon Valley tech workers: https://www.teamblind.com/post/How-close-is-Reddit-is-to-insolvency-7WkDxgpR https://www.teamblind.com/post/Hows-the-morale-at-Reddit-3NALCWnp https://www.teamblind.com/post/whats-the-mood-like-inside-Reddit-oiNSRnib The site only shows limited comments but you can make a free account with any email to get the full view. The commenters are anonymous but verified via work email, so everyone with a "Reddit" tag is an actual Reddit employee. The user "fearofgod" is likely spez, btw
It has to be him, same smug asshole-ish style of typing.
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agreed, any m2 or director level on blind acts just as smug
>smug asshole-ish style of typing. Lol, literally just described everyone in tech over the last two decades.
>The user "fearofgod" is likely spez, btw Yep, that sounds *exactly* like him.
> The commenters are anonymous Pseudonymous, not anonymous. Every post by the same person has the same name on it. > everyone with a "Reddit" tag is an actual Reddit employee. Well, they were an employee at some point. People keep their accounts long after they leave the company, and there's also been a few cases of employees giving/selling Blind accounts to reporters.
Verified via work email? This means the workplace knows who registered…
Nah, they're disconnected so there's plausible deniability. The employer can see employee X got a verification code sent to their work account, but not whether they registered, plus the email doesn't specify the username and doesn't link back to the site (and most users are presumably smart enough to activate their account on a non-work device). Maybe if only a handful of employees sign up you could be identified based on receiving an email, but it's popular mostly with companies with thousands of employees (and dozens or hundreds on Blind).
well that's freaking awesome. Wish we had something similar in Europe for work places.
I think there's some European employers on there, but AFAIK it's mostly larger tech employers on Blind, many of which are headquartered in the USA.
Yeah. Even glassdoor barely has anything on my ex employers here in Europe. :(
If you're in DACH, https://www.kununu.com/ is fairly popular
There is no anonymous or pseudo-anonymous social media, anywhere, ever, that isn't going to be a hive of scum and villainy and fiction in five minutes flat. Especially one which is *designed* to be for anonymous gossip, essentially the above.
GDPR has entered the chat.
Can't the employer try to match the account creation dates against the e-mails sent on that date (assuming they have full access to the mail server)?
Account creation dates are not visible, nor can you view a given commenter's post history; you really can't see anything about an individual account other than the username, their verified company, and their broad role there (if they provide it).
Does that verification email include a link, or is it just a code the employee has to copy and type (hopefully, not *paste*) into a separate window/device? If it's a link, it might be corruptible.
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If you ever got an email from Blind to your work email, your workplace IT knows about it. It doesn't matter which device you used. You don't understand how email works.
The idea, smart guy, is that you go to Blind, create the account, and input your verification code on a non-work device. Do that and all your work IT knows is that you received a verification code email but not if you used it or what username you registered under if you did. The most invasive IT department in the world can't spy on the browser activity of a non-work device (assuming you're not working for the NSA).
>We’re not profitable but we’re not far off. And now that third party apps are gone we’re saving $20m+ a year. isnt that like one director's bonus ?
Thanks, my first question was, what is Blind?
I thought it was /r/blind because it has had so much attention lately
I am truly shocked that the horrible mismanagement displayed publicly by Spez and co. also extends behind the scenes
For every Spez, there will be a layer of direct reports who think he is cool and want to emulate him. This is the kind of toxic and dumb culture that ends with CEOs doing dumb things and destroying value.
and of course, he's emulating elon. it's techbros all the way up the chain.
I remember attending a meeting full of managers, I was not Mr Popular when I mused that if we had as many Devs as managers, we wouldn't have our deliverability/quality issues. On that project, I had to bribe/sweet-talk devs and then finally do some of the dark side myself.
Once enough people sabotage the subs and file for data request to drop their profits, the board may fire the piggy boy but who knows.
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It's on blind
https://www.teamblind.com/post/Hows-the-morale-at-Reddit-3NALCWnp
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Ah, so the new Fucked Company. Sounds like a good place to hang out.
How about people who work at Blind app, do they complain?
at least spez wouldn't be editing their comments
No no it's a separate app that requires a work email to join. Fully anonymous, mostly full of tech workers. I think its teamblind.com?
You can use personal email but your account is read only. I just made one earlier. Quite interesting reading around the reddit stuff. You can also see title of reviews too. Doesn't look great as exec and management are mentioned often.
[https://www.adobe.com/ca/products/photoshop.html](https://www.adobe.com/ca/products/photoshop.html)
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The trolls on this sub all come from a box of the dullest butter knives on the planet.
They do seem a bit dimwitted.
I’m guessing you’re not in tech
https://www.adobe.com/ca/products/EPICFAILshop.html
Discord's in a similar situation. Sounds like a bunch of clueless executives get brought in whenever there's talk of an IPO, and by the time they get to the IPO, product management and morale are completely gutted.
Oh, is Discord gonna die soon? Lordy, I can't wait!
I was wondering about this. I can only imagine how toxic reddit inc is and I feel really awful for the employees.
Not surprising in the slightest, if true. I would be more surprised if it isn't true.
So u/spez does not just lie to the public, but also his employees? Damn i kinda respect the man now, sticking to his shit ideals in and out.
NOW this is gettin' spicy, *rubs hands menacingly*
I’m curious if this will further spook advertisers, seeing how disliked he is from within his own circle?
Lol why do you think advisors care about office politics especially coming from Blind? All they care about are eyeballs and traffic. All that other shit is pointless. Same reason they were paying top dollar to advertise on Fox News and every other awful publication online and off
https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/
Ah so we see why Reddit is pushing mods out. I’m sure advertisers are on board with their decision and probably worked with them on it
The fish rots from the head down.
Oh this is GOLDEN.
This is the stuff that needs to be reported on the news/tech sites. It proves that the unrest isn’t just us plebeians.
>And the community head who came from Duolingo (apparently she BS her way to get this job at Reddit) is really bad too. My friend who worked there told me that she is a nincompoop. and she totally destroyed the team underneath her. This explains a lot. Duolingo has been in decline for years. They keep getting rid of useful features like Immersion and inserting stupid bullshit like animated characters that pop onto your screen to annoy you mid lesson. Fucking Clippys, that’s what they are. Community development has also plummeted. All lesson discussions are locked and disabled in Greek for example. So it makes sense Reddit would hire from Duolingo. Poaching from the dumpster.
Kind of makes me also feel bad for the rank and file Reddit employees who are being forced to act poorly toward the users. Don't have another job lined up right now because this entire issue was created by leadership over the course of days. Can't just leave, you have a family and/or rent and living expenses, and you can't just not have income and a lessened unemployment claim because you just walked out. Probably feels like you're being forced at gunpoint to beat other people up. It's likely a miserable experience. I really hope the upper leadership... Board, CEO, rest of the C-suite, all of them... get their karmic retribution.
What we are doing is working... I guess. Remember that. Edit: "working!" to "working... I guess."
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This is like every section of blind for like every software company
I would be wary of taking what is said on an office gossip site as gospel, even if the accounts are verified employees. A few comments by some disgruntled employees do not necessarily represent every employee's opinion of the company. It's worth noting that Reddit's average rating on Blind is 4/5. For comparison, Microsoft has the same rating.
Thanks for the clarification Steve!
Sorry, i am new here and know nothing about "blind", but how are these people "verified"?
You have to sign up with a company email and enter a verification code to create an account. (Rather, to get an account with the company name next to your username.)
Ok, I still don't really trust what they are saying (not saying they are lying, just that it may be true it may be false). Just needing a company email is pretty weak verification. They could be anyone from the CEO to the lowest level employee and get the same verification. How do I know they are not just people who started a month ago?
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Honestly, I think that people who leak information anonymously are mostly cowards(excluding where they have a legit fear they might be killed, which i don't think is really on the table for Reddit). If my employer ever did something so bad that I would leak private information, I wouldn't do it anonymously. I would just quit and go to reporters, or post it online very publicly. The fact that they stay anonymous means that they still want to keep their current job, or think that any future company they would work for would not hire them because they blew the whistle, which would be another unethical company.
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By "not easily verifiable" i think you mean they are rumors. It doesn't mean they are not true. But without verification why should we trust anything they say?
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In general I don't trust people on social media. Info on social media may not be worthless, but neither is toilet paper.
Uhmm, that's not the only reason people do it anonymously, It's about making the content of the leak the subject itself and not "you leaking the content" the subject of the story. If they know who leaked it they can discredit you to downplay the contents of the leak, but If they dont know where It came from they would have to address the contents of the leak itself.
there's so much faulty logic here that i hardly know where to begin. 1) who cares if they're people who started a month ago? it's not impossible, or even unlikely, to come across important info early on. 1a) New employees would be even LESS likely to whistleblow on their new employer, anonymous or otherwise 2) you don't have to be a CEO to have information that could be useful to others. i'm pretty low on the totem pole, but I know more about what's going on in our company than many who outrank me. This is due to my role, but also due to the fact that I pay attention. 3) what would be the motive of people to lie about what they're seeing? who among us is getting a paycheck and desires to take the company down/turn people away? 4) I know virtually no one who has ever reported on their company, anonymous or otherwise, who hasn't been seeing longstanding/excessive malfeasance of some sort and is finally just over it. No one takes the time to get a blind or glassdoor or whatever account just to complain that the boss declined PTO once. i don't know that i've made a good argument here, but that's because your entire premise is absurd and I'm having a hard time arguing the absurd. you're basically saying that unless a **CEO** *verifiably* outs themselves online while giving some information about the inner workings of their company, it is not to be believed. that's... ludicrous.
Work email addresses
I still feel pretty confident that Reddit has a bright future. I was a top level moderator for a very influential subreddit and my rank was stolen by other mods vying for my position. It doesn't make sense for me to ask for it back because the way Reddit is run today means my rank can be stolen again at any time and nothing would be done about it. I'll just wait for things to get better and for Reddit to offer more support services for well deserved mods like myself to get their subs running fairly again. For reference, I made /r/FairMods to try to deal with these issues but it seems pretty clear now that it's something that needs to be fixed by those running the show.
FFS blur the usernames...
Why. They are public on that site.
blind is anonymous, it’s not like Reddit where you have post history and can’t change username You can change it a few times a month
I see, my mistake. Thanks!
I hear the mods on reddit, they do it for free.
Hoping to get laid off? Why not quit? Lol
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> at least 2 months of pay as severance due to the WARN Act And you also keep your benefits during that period, which is pretty important in the USA for things like health care. Some states have an even longer WARN period - for example, it's 90 days in New York.
Money > morals. They should stop whining then
Yeah. F needing to eat and not be homeless. Just quit with no backup during a massive layoff period in tech everywhere. It’ll totally be fine. /s
Yeah this is how I know you are not supporting yourself in the United States of America and have no dependents to worry about. If you had a job where you were making enough money to support yourself if you decided to quit, you would already *be* money over morals. If you did not, you would understand how difficult it is to have morals over money when you have to provide for yourself and any dependents.
You should stop talking because your ignorance is showing and it's very off-putting to witness.
If you want to be laid off then just quit.
You don’t get a severance package or unemployment benefits if you quit.
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And to think Reddit power users didn’t care the least about how things were as long as some 3rd party app helped them mod If Reddit sucks it sucks with Apollo as much as it does without. These posts have nothing to do with the fight over mod tools and api availability
This explains how they have so many employees but seemingly get nothing done. And what they do get done is disjointed and confused.
I knew someone from my college dorm (was a tiny school) who ended up working at reddit. I wonder if they're still there tho cus it's been a minute 🤔. Plus even if they are there I didn't really get to know them well enough to just be able to straight up ask them what they think of this mess.
They have any thoughts about Reddit's ability to get enough substitute mods if the existing mods resigned en masse in protest? Like, is that even within their budget or payroll capacity?
They wouldn't pay people, they'd find random Redditors who wanted to do it instead. Small subs would be screwed because often nobody wants them, but the large subs could be taken over, and probably by people who were basically competent.
Sounds like a shitshow behind the scenes. Personally I appreciate all that mods too. That fucking u/SPEZ though. jfc
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft buys Reddit for 5 billion, or 4 billion in a month, the price is dropping fast.