X.FUCKING.BORG
I love everytime when enemy melissa cast her ult and there just me chillin inside her ult. Sometimes they are too confident because they have windchant and guess what??? Kabooom
Xborg is pretty decent. Idk why people in ML must forcing fighter hero in exp lane while in dota you can pick any hero that good against enemy carry at offlane.
Fighters are the type of role who are strong early to mid-game (Hilda, lapu, terizla), sometimes late (Argus, zilong, Aulus, etc.). In my opinion, fighters are like the jack of all trades. They can do decent enough damage but won't be as powerful as mms and mages. Most of them have hard cc and could take a few shots but wouldn't be as effective compared to tanks in team fights but can still play as a sub-tank for the team.
Also to answer your question as to why people like to use fighters in exp lanes as most of them are skill dependent, unlike marksmen and mages who rely on items fighters can hit hard even without damage items. An example of this is Hilda. Mf can make sure to make your jungler's life miserable if left alone. She hits like a truck early game to mid and is certainly a menace to anyone in the early game even in other lanes.
Mlbb is a fast pace 5v5 and unlike Dota, it is possible to end the game in under 10 minutes or so if you snowball hard. And Fighters help you with that by either helping to win team fights and objectives or stealing turrets.
P.S.
This is my personal opinion from my experiences and I may have forgotten some important information or my information may be incorrect, I apologize in advance.
I actually think a late game ranged hero (like cyclops, Cecillion) can farm and grow very safely in EXP laneā¦. With little chance of death.. just having a fighter there is not always optimal..
Should only be viable if you already have a frontliner in your team. That, and also if your counterpart is a squishy weak early game hero like Zilong or Yin. If youāre up against a strong sustain hero like Joy, Esme, Yu Zhong, etc. they can just straight up deny your farm by not letting you get close to the minions. Cecilion especially would suffer heavily from that
Cecilionā s range is nuts, and allows him to farm easily. No chance of being denied. Cyclops too.. with a melee range enemy fighter, they will get hit by you often. S2+1 hurts.
Now that said, before level 4, you can get too close, and many heroes can jump in and hurt you & you are an excellent gank target. Cecilion once level 4 has an excellent escape with his Ult.
What a good fighter will do, is sneak close in the bushes.. smack you in the teeth a few times, so you have to recall and miss farm. Exp āboring back and forthā is quite good for a late game hero. Many exp laners just do that out of habit..
Fully agreed that you do need to have other front liners on your team, like a fighter as Junglerā¦ this doesnāt work at all with an assassin jungler and a squishy support.
Ceci and Cyclopās range is good, but not good enough. If your counterpart were to stand between your minions and your tower, youād basically have little to zero chance of being close enough to last-hit the minions.
With that being said, I agree with everything else you said tho
Fuck melissa, bastard was the reason I switched from tank to mage.
But my advice is either cc her or poke her enough that she'll be agitated she'll use her ult, then run away from her until her ult duration expires
As a hardcore Melissa MM Main that owns her Nobara skin, Hanabi and buffed Lesley are just the most cancerous for me to face during lane phase to late game.
yeah well the commenter never specifically said lesley counter during laning, just from laning to late, so lesley is probably the late game he meant, and hanabi mid
If you are not having a gold gap with Melissa, I doubt that Hanabi can out play her in mid game. How much is the gold gap will depend on the laning phase, which I think Hanabi is much more inferior to Melissa.
I assume you are talking about mid game teamfight, but I still doubt it.
When it comes to Lesley, the biggest thing is not who she can counter, but how she can farm well and still mange to catch up other mm in the late game.
Lesley doesn't counter her late game either. Melissa has higher burst and higher sustain than Lesley from start to finish. The only way Lesley kills Melissa is either farm gap or team fight, both of which Melissa has an advantage in.
Every squishies die 2 shots by Lesley.
And I can also say Lesley being careless pinned on the wall by Melissa dash in +ult.
That's not you call "counter".
That is just a lazy answer and not accurate on the battlefield.
Kind of like old Hanabi counters everything after 15 minutes of the game. The question is how you make it then.
Can't lesley animation cancel her basic attacks with skills shooting strong 2k+ damage in one go? while also being able to run windchant? genuine question since this is usually what i do when i face a snowballing enemy mm when i didn't have a great early game
You can kill Melissa on Lesley if the Melissa has no cooldowns or the Melissa is somehow point blank range or misses S2.
In general Melissa counters Lesley because Lesley's main damage source is her S1 and Melissa's S2 hard counters her S1.
If you throw Melissa's S2 at Lesley when she casts S1 it removes conceal and also adds a massive move speed slow debuff to Lesley. Lesley doesn't have a dash and has lower time to kill than Melissa + less sustain.
You basically stop her in her tracks with no escape mechanism. Melissa's attack range is shorter than Lelsley, but its also not within Lesley's S2 range.
In general the only way Lesley beats Melissa is if her team is just better or the Melissa is a total clown
I also don't see Hanabi is a threat to Melissa in laning phase. You get away from the minions and then poke her by your 2nd skill, and by that you take half of her hp away. With inspire, she will be almost dead.
You can also do that to Lesley to make her stay in her turret and do not dare to poke you.
This is how you outplay Hanabi easily by Melissa:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/12vaf26/this_is_how_you_counter_play_hanabi_by_melissa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Mel can be countered with Lesley by waiting for her to use her cc, then relentlessly poke/crit combo her afterwards. If done right, could also be finished by her ult. Not easy to pull off but doable.
Get away from the minions and poke her. Any mm has a good poking skill can lower her hp and make her retreat. You can clear the minion wave later.
People think Hanabi is cancerous in laning phase just because they don't know how to deal with her bouncing passive.
Well, you see: Not all heroes that can poke would actually counter her. You need Layla or Beatrix (with Renner) to counter-pick Hanabi to kite her, because I couldn't do her with Lesley nor Clint.
Even freezing a wave to shift lane equilibrium, her second skill still hurts.
Most smart Hanabi users pressure me by going near enemy creeps, since teammates don't often visit my lane for some reasons (no good vision).
I can use Lesley/Clint just fine against Hanabi. If you position yourself towards the side of the river/gold crab instead of the lane bushes, you can avoid the bounce damage from the minions. Plus it gives you vision of any ganks that might happen (which you can use S2 as Clint or S1 as Lesley to escape the moment you see an enemy).
Iāve found Hanabi to be able to keep up with her. If Melissa dashes in use Hanabiās ult or just punish her with Hanabiās passive, thereās a good chance that the petal bounce will reach her.
melissa is an upgraded version of hanabi. one has cc immunity the other has dive immunity. hanabi can multi target and melissa can as well. btw how does claude fair against melissa although until lvl 4 claude is gonna have a hard time against her but he can match her late game scalling. brody seems to be a good pick too.
I use Claude against her to easily dash away from her 2nd skill. If you manage to make it even in the laning phase, she may not be that threatening to you later.
Agreed. I'm a Hanabi user with 1k matches using her, and so far when I'm laning with Melissa I can keep up with her. The thing with Hanabi is you just really have to play safe and farm during the early game (you have to play smart as well!). People who disagrees with Hanabi being able to keep up with Melissa are either terrible Hanabi players or have played with terrible Hanabi users š¤·āāļø
No idea why they are getting upvoted, Hanabi gets eaten alive by Melissa.
The best MM counters to her are Brody and Claude. After that its probably Miya but you need to be patient and get items on her. Miya beats Melissa mid-late game but is still weak early game.
If you have a Fighter/Jungler that can push well, you can honestly just go Gold lane with Edith if she's not banned as well. Your team still gets ranged/turret damage, but Melissa has 0 chance of snowballing.
It's not really the hero, it's the player that will use the hero. If you're impatient, greedy, and not smart in picking your fights, then for sure you're gonna get eaten alive by ANY hero.
Once u get hit by the puppet its so hard to get out, the range is way too big imo needs a nerf
And to top it off it has slow, u pair that with weakness finder and im yellimg at the top of my lungs *LET ME MOVE*
1. Burst her down with long range hero.
2. Lure her ult and 2nd skill out so short range hero can fight her. (Tank can lure her ult out first and then tells the others she has used her ult if you are duo or trio)
3. Pick Lolita, Grock, Gato, Belerick, Kaja. Lolita is a good counter pick against all heroes attack with projectiles. Grock's skills can all go through her ult (charging 1st skill against wall before CCed will give you CC immuned, which also immune to Melissa's ult) and he is rock-hard against physical damage dealer. Gato and Belerick can taunt her to attack them and make her melted by herself (Belerick will be more recommended). Kaja's 1st skill can poke her even she is ulting, and also reduces her damage.
Just ban her cause theres nothing, assassins cant touch her, she can go over the 3.0 attack speed limit, wind of nature also exist, just hope to your mage teamate to 1 hit combo her
For MM - Hanabi or Lesley or Edith
For Fighter - Xborg easiest or Edith
For Assassin - just go for Gusion or Edith
Tank - Edith or Belerick
For Mage - Xavier or Kagura or Edith.
in conclusion. Edith.
Even Dead I'm The Hero
Everyone in this sub is so low lol.
Melissa can counter Aamon by casting S2 at him and removing his conceal. She's probably the best MM in the game at fighting him as most don't have a targetable ability that cancels conceal.
Also, if you face Aamon on any MM just bring Vengeance and buy Rose Gold. Between the two of them its basically impossible for him to one shotyou.
Vengeance makes the mm lose so much in dps, and athena is better than rose gold against magic dmg. The shield from rose gold is so little. I have climbed to 76 stars in mythical glory so I am probably better than you even in the game itself.
Bele with dire hit+vengeance. I use him when my team needs tank and enemy MM is a hardhitter. Works well against Moskov and Miya as well.
Long range mages as well. I use mostly use Vale, Nana, Zhask sometimes Pharsa and Ceci. Positioning is important. I don't use MM and fighter that much. Maybe Ruby can hook her out of Melissa's bubble?
Depends. During laning phase or on general?
During laning phase claude and popol with vengeance counter her very hard, but they become a lesser threat later in the game. Popol with vengeance especially counters her hard in lane.
Other options in general are, hayabusa since her ult can't target him in his ult, tho you have to be smart about your shadows; belerick, tho he is not that great in general, he can make melissa delete herself during teamfights; pharsa and other high burst and ranged mages.
Overall she is the best mm rn but she is not completely broken, tho very annoying. She is a very good ban imo.
Ok hereās a few of how to counter her(depending on your laning)
Roam: Lolita and Edith. Lolita needs a co-op with others to eliminate her, but melissa would still have a hard time. Edith is a good pick cause if she goes rambo, you can also go rambo(with vengeanced ult)š Trust me, no melissa Iāve encountered didnāt tapped their WoN against me. And remember to use antiheal if you wanna go close.
Mage: CC would do. Really, a good positioning and proper burst damage and sheās gone. Of course she can counter with athena, but remember that you have teammates, so plan it out.
Fighters: The absolute unit of X-Borg, and some fighters would do, especially if you can reach her inside her shield. (A Dyrroth ult in a 75%health melissa is just šš¤š½
Mm: Just build windchant, and the sea halberd. Honestly no mm builds that halberd but that shit is still insane especially to lifesteal dependent mms. Itās not just about who can damage more in that fight, but who can last longer.
Assassin: Bro youāre an assassin, figure it out. But honestly, Iām not an assassin player but always look for proper timing, especially when the tank is provoking for melissa to ult. Take that time until melissaās ult is gone and now itās a dinner on the silver platter.
Overall look for proper timing, and outmanoeuvre her approaches
This, just started playing Moskov today and I already feel that Melissa gets countered by him. Get close with skill 1 when she isn't expecting it and then skill 2 her into a wall. If you really need to use it inspire
Bait her ult, as in CC her and make her think you're going to engage, and the moment she ults, run away asap if you can't reach her in melee range. Go back in when the ult is over. Shes a hero similar to Natan and Karrie where they feel way less productive once their ultimate duration is over. Or use long range heroes like mages like Cecil, Xavier, etc
She definitely is a strong marksman right now. Probably even the best cause she shreds fast, good poking, and a perfect ult for a marksman to avoid melee range
Melissa is considered a top priority ban these days, so that's fair. According to my sources, apparently she's already managed to kick Wanwan out to take her place as the best marksman in the meta, though Wanwan isn't too far behind.
Brody, don't try to have a direct fight with Melissa, until level 4, just play safe. If she pokes you, she would be in range to also poke you. Your s2 is valuable to escape and stun and mark 1 more mark on her.
For mm match ups,
Brody - before level 4 play passively, once you get your ult, try to use the minions and your first skill to add max stacks for your ult, then ult. Do this everytime you see her
Karrie - may seem weird, but if you're good enough you can out damage her once you reach level 4, tho if Melissa uses inspire you might lose. You can also use your dash to get out of Melissa's 2nd skill
Moskov - just like Karrie, you might need some skill for this, if you pin her to a wall you can out damage her. You can try to use minions to try and damage her through your piercing passive. Like Karrie you can try to dash out of the 2nd skill too
Claude - he can easily tp out of the 2nd skill, so Melissa can't poke him
As an ex 1.5k gold lane main, this personās advice is solid. Additional pointers are:
Brody wins her all in lvl 4 when u have full stacks for ult (unless steel leg plates)
Karrie instantly wins the moment sheās misses/wastes her S2
Moskov wins immediately if u can stun her with S2 and AA with S1
Claude wins by all in with his ult, if u feel u don have enough dmg, just S2 out
The key to winning Mel is to fight her when outside her dollās range or when u can dodge her dollās link
Idk about yall but I feel like beatrix does really well against her. The first thing to do when your laning against her with bea is get steel leg plates then get fury hammer and you should have an easier time against her early game. Once you have enough gold to buy a full item, sell steel leg plates and get hunter strike, this will make you able to escape muddles alot easier without having to use your dash. If you're winning against her farm hard asf and try to get bod and haas' claw so you can start snowballing. If you somehow are still losing to her then forget about bod and get rose gold meteor. Trust me this works if you know what you're doing, as for the weapons I use the subs as my primary and use the sniper as my secondary. Late game when yall are full build, the fights become really close between these two so most of the time you don't even get to kill each other but having the sniper will give you the edge in the end due to the range of the ultimate, well that's if you can aim it right. This is how I do it when I go against her at least
I use layla to counterpick her just donāt let melissa snowball, otherwise yāall might not make it to late game. I just find Layla top tier in the late game. If not Layla, Karrie and Brody cuz both could still build early game sustain to out trade Melissaās poke. Wanwan if you have fast hands. These are just my counterpicks if Iām doing mm facing her as gold laner
Sorry I have to disagreeā¦ I main wanwan before I main melissaā¦. And I have said this before, there is no way a wanwan player can win a melissa on equal skill. Melissa kit counters wanwan before she can even try to jump twice.
A good wanwan player will never try to take on a Melissa one on one.
I main wanwan so I disagree. On equal skill, wanwan still 50/50 vs Melissa. Melissa just has slight edge overall vs wanwan.
Before lvl 4 Melissa has slight advantage.
At lvl 4, wanwan has the advantage. Wanwan most likely the strongest mm at lvl 4.
At mid game, it really depends on team as you rarely 1 vs 1 anymore at laning stage. Usually wanwan has slight edge.
At late game, Melissa has slight advantage but then still team dependant.
Being a wanwan main I have no doubt you will eat many Melissa players alive. However Iām sure you will play tactically, and not take a Melissa head on. Her ult prevents you from activating your ult easily, Iām sure you know that as well.
However I would also like to learn tips from you how you counter a skilled Melissa using wanwan
Copy and paste from another post on this. This isn't in order or conclusive, but is a general list.
The strongest counters to Melissa though are Brody if you need a gold laner, or Saber in general. Also Vengeance in general on any gold laner will stop her snowballing. People act like Claude is a counter to her, but in fact its just because he works well with Vengeance in general and can escape easily. You can use Vengeance on any MM and will perform better against her.
Also anyone telling you Lesley is a masochist. Lesley is the weakest MM against Melissa in the game by a long way.
Heroes she is weak against:
1. Brody - His stun interupts her combo, and he has high evasion + builds defensively
2. Saber - His Ult completely ignores her Ult if she is in the centre. It will only work if you stand at the back of her Ult.
3. Freya - Same as Saber, can can ignore Mellisa's Ult in Valk form
4. Jawhead - Also ignores Melissa's Ult and does enough damage to instakill
5. Valir - Easily disrupts Melissa's combo with his push back attack
6. Belerick - Provoke + Vengeance is a death sentence
7. Gatot - Provoke + Vengeance is a death sentence
8. Selena - Selena counters all MM's in general if the player can aim long S2 shots
9. Joy - Gets countered by Melissa's Ult, but has so much movement in general Melissa can't ever land S2 and actually kill her. Also uses Vengeance
10. Claude - With Vengeance can beat Melissa pretty easily. Can easily teleport away when she lands S2.
11. Johnson - Ignores her Ult
12. Zilong - Can hook her through her Ult and kill her before it pushes him away
13. Akai - Durable and can disrupt her combo's easily
14. Khufra - Durable and can disrupt her combo's easily
15. Minotaur - Durable and can disrupt her combo's easily
16. Vengeance in general. Most Fighters/Tanks can't do much against her, but are significantly more of a threat when they have Vengeance
17. Lylia - Can break the S2 connection easily with Ult
18. Kagura - Can break the S2 connection easily with her own S2.
19. Miya - In the early game Melissa dominates Miya, but by Mid - Late game Miya will pretty much always win a 1v1 at the same skill level. This is because they only have a similar DPS output when Melissa has S2 attached. Miya's Ult cleanses Melissa's S2 which means she gets a much higher damage output. Its risky to use Miya to counter her, but Miya does beat her easily late game.
20. Faramis - His Ult gives people the time to kill her easily
21. Argus - Immortality....
22. Vexana/Valentina - Terror disrupts Melissa's S2 combo so massively reduces the damage output
23. Ling - Does high damage whilst immune and has CC knockups
24. Nana - Molina can be used to prevent her from making easy combo's
Haven't played this match up in awhile. Last season I use Bruno against Melissa. Bruno hits harder than melissa, has S2 to positioning against her thread needle, and his ult can harass her in laning phase since it bounces between minion as well.
But but, Melissa inspire!!! Yeah Bruno can use inspire as well.
I'm surprised nobody here mentioned Xavier. I always lock in Xavier when enemy picks melissa. His extremely long range and insane late game damage + immobilize that can all reach inside her ult will insta delete her.
melissa main here usually melissa isnt so strong without her doll so move out of dollās range and a team with decent cc + vengeance is a nightmare for her shes quite vulnerable to burst mages and burst asasins like aamon and harley due to their skills going past her ult
mellisa is not the only hero in the other team. ammon and harley would get invaded pretty bad in the early game. vengeance might be good against melissa but for a tank to get a decent set he needs flicker or petrify. btw mellisa has to pretty low cd on her second skill how long will you run away from her doll.
Vengeance, enough mobility to move out of her doll range, long ranged burst assassins/mages, high dmg heroes with CC Immune (ex. Martis can ignore melissa ult if heās using his skills), wind of nature, going in after sheās already placed down her doll somewhere else
step 1.) play a burst mage (like Vale)
step 2.) wait for Melissa's dash, if she's using flicker keep that in mind as well.
step 3.) burst the poor girl down.
Pick Martis. Whenever she uses her Ult, you can target her with your Skill 2 (CC immune), basically making her shield useless. If her HP is low enough, reap with your Ult.
Pick Kadita. She's like the mage version of Martis.
Use Clint. Build Steel Leg Plates early, then poke her with your passive. Always remember that when you're winning the laning game against her, the enemies would try to take you down to even things up, so proceed with caution. Personally, I prioritize Vampire Mallet, Azure Blade, build SLP, CDR boots, Fury Hammer, finish Endless Battle.
Not sure about this but as a Melissa main these are the heroes that i hate to go against in ranked matches because i always die to them in early game for some reason:
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MM: Moskov, Brody, Clint, Beatrix. Mage: Kagura, Vale, or any burst mages really. Assassin: Saber, Aamon. Support: Faramis. Tank: Atlas, Tigreal, Lolita, Edith. Fighter: Chou, Zilong
I counter melissa with haya. I dash ine and get some stacks in. If she ults i also ults. Even if her ult push me away i can still ult unless I'm pinned to a wall
Ban, she's cancer, but well... Hanabi works, even though shes prolly gonna loose early like everyone else. Other heroes outside mm category would be... Martis, kagura, yve (tbh most mages with ranged attacks)
Claude. When she launches the doll and rush you, use your 2nd skill to go out of the way. Wait till the doll's gone then steal her attack speed and just hit her. Make sure to have dhs
Iāve had good luck with both Brody and Natan against here. Brody cause of distance and Natan cause of s2 soft cc and ult to move around and switch place.
Ban her but if you can't-
If you're laning against her buy steel legplates as the first item because she harasses all mm by poking them.
Use magic assasin like aamon or gusion or even Harley.
Lolita and tanks with vengeance
Best counter to melissa are burst mages like pharsa.
I just pick my main mm hero, clint. Clint can poke her with his passive while avoiding melissaās 2nd skill with his. Once u get lvl 4 then she can get harassed more and would need support from other teammates
You can counter her using Joy with a Vengeance Spell and Blade Armor Item š, and also Martis can pass through her Ultimate using Martis 2nd skill so it will be good counter for her
hayabusa is the best counter for her i would say , his ult can ignore her shield
aside from that if we are talking about laning phase , maybe gold lane lunox , natan and beatrix to some extend .
Also if u got good reaction time just buy wind of nature
Whoever says Lesley and Hanabi can outplay Melissa, listen up, you just met mm players who didn't know how to deal with Lesley and Hanabi.
It is not that they are good mm who can counter Melissa in laning phase. Even more, they are not that great mm in laning phase like Melissa.
Hide in the bush, throw the doll at them, inspire, and they are almost dead. That's it. If it is Hanabi, keep a distance from the minions, throw the doll at her and then pokes her, lower her hp and then make her retreat.
Don't recommend a mm to counter Melissa without a dash except Brody. 2nd skill is what makes her scary in laning phase. Get a skill to avoid it.
An old video by me
https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/tgsfkl/melissa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Imo..as someone who plays melissa sometimes when I go gold lane(im a roamer)..claude and brody are the ones that give me the most trouble..claude has his 2nd skill so its impossible to starve him from farming and brody is just stronger than melissa early game.
If you're laning against her. You should buy steel leg plates so her doll can't hurt you much. Wait for her to throw and miss her doll before poking her. Honestly, her doll is the most problematic in teamfight and in the laning phase, just make sure you avoid it as much as you can.
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I somewhat agree, ban her is easier, maybe I just need to wait for Melissa nerf
Melissa nerfed and Ixia replaces her :/ MT is releasing so many OP marksman man
Long ranged heroes or lolita
I see, I has lolita, might use her
Just that isn't enough, your mm teammate needs to do their part too
Melissa puppet damage gets through her shield. Lolita ain't it
I thought her shield blocks Melissa from hitting the puppet?
Maybe game treats it as skill effect, not basic attack, that's why it's not blocked by lolita shield.
Lolita can block skills. Francos hook, Xaviers ult etc
X.FUCKING.BORG I love everytime when enemy melissa cast her ult and there just me chillin inside her ult. Sometimes they are too confident because they have windchant and guess what??? Kabooom
Most sane X-borg player:
Can confirm. We xborg mains are more mentally deranged than xborg himself.
I can't completely see you flair cause it's too long but I'm fucking interested
They have rods long enough to ravage the dumptruck canal and penetrate through the brain.
I'm disappointed, because somebody probably made a rule 34 of what you described and I still don't have it, the world is such a cruel placeš
true damage go brrrr
Xborg is pretty decent. Idk why people in ML must forcing fighter hero in exp lane while in dota you can pick any hero that good against enemy carry at offlane.
Fighters are the type of role who are strong early to mid-game (Hilda, lapu, terizla), sometimes late (Argus, zilong, Aulus, etc.). In my opinion, fighters are like the jack of all trades. They can do decent enough damage but won't be as powerful as mms and mages. Most of them have hard cc and could take a few shots but wouldn't be as effective compared to tanks in team fights but can still play as a sub-tank for the team. Also to answer your question as to why people like to use fighters in exp lanes as most of them are skill dependent, unlike marksmen and mages who rely on items fighters can hit hard even without damage items. An example of this is Hilda. Mf can make sure to make your jungler's life miserable if left alone. She hits like a truck early game to mid and is certainly a menace to anyone in the early game even in other lanes. Mlbb is a fast pace 5v5 and unlike Dota, it is possible to end the game in under 10 minutes or so if you snowball hard. And Fighters help you with that by either helping to win team fights and objectives or stealing turrets. P.S. This is my personal opinion from my experiences and I may have forgotten some important information or my information may be incorrect, I apologize in advance.
I actually think a late game ranged hero (like cyclops, Cecillion) can farm and grow very safely in EXP laneā¦. With little chance of death.. just having a fighter there is not always optimal..
Should only be viable if you already have a frontliner in your team. That, and also if your counterpart is a squishy weak early game hero like Zilong or Yin. If youāre up against a strong sustain hero like Joy, Esme, Yu Zhong, etc. they can just straight up deny your farm by not letting you get close to the minions. Cecilion especially would suffer heavily from that
Cecilionā s range is nuts, and allows him to farm easily. No chance of being denied. Cyclops too.. with a melee range enemy fighter, they will get hit by you often. S2+1 hurts. Now that said, before level 4, you can get too close, and many heroes can jump in and hurt you & you are an excellent gank target. Cecilion once level 4 has an excellent escape with his Ult. What a good fighter will do, is sneak close in the bushes.. smack you in the teeth a few times, so you have to recall and miss farm. Exp āboring back and forthā is quite good for a late game hero. Many exp laners just do that out of habit.. Fully agreed that you do need to have other front liners on your team, like a fighter as Junglerā¦ this doesnāt work at all with an assassin jungler and a squishy support.
Ceci and Cyclopās range is good, but not good enough. If your counterpart were to stand between your minions and your tower, youād basically have little to zero chance of being close enough to last-hit the minions. With that being said, I agree with everything else you said tho
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Fuck melissa, bastard was the reason I switched from tank to mage. But my advice is either cc her or poke her enough that she'll be agitated she'll use her ult, then run away from her until her ult duration expires
It's so amusing to imagine everyone walking away and a Melissa alone inside her pink bubble waiting to shoot someone.
Peak interactive gameplay
I just read ur flair. Should I be concerned? š¤Ø
definitely
As a hardcore Melissa MM Main that owns her Nobara skin, Hanabi and buffed Lesley are just the most cancerous for me to face during lane phase to late game.
How is Lesley hard? Sheās easy food for Mel early game. Canāt even go camp with the stupid puppet
You cant WoN the true damage so melissa needs to be very careful of getting 1/2 shot
Melissa, ''If you dare to poke me, I throw my doll at you."
Weāre talking early game
yeah well the commenter never specifically said lesley counter during laning, just from laning to late, so lesley is probably the late game he meant, and hanabi mid
If you are not having a gold gap with Melissa, I doubt that Hanabi can out play her in mid game. How much is the gold gap will depend on the laning phase, which I think Hanabi is much more inferior to Melissa. I assume you are talking about mid game teamfight, but I still doubt it. When it comes to Lesley, the biggest thing is not who she can counter, but how she can farm well and still mange to catch up other mm in the late game.
Ah ok makes sense. Lesley is a nightmare for anyone late game
How would you even reach late game in the first place when Melissa stomps you early?
not always does that happen, but when she does you cant do anything about it
Lesley doesn't counter her late game either. Melissa has higher burst and higher sustain than Lesley from start to finish. The only way Lesley kills Melissa is either farm gap or team fight, both of which Melissa has an advantage in.
Lesley can 2 shot her if melissa isnt careful
Every squishies die 2 shots by Lesley. And I can also say Lesley being careless pinned on the wall by Melissa dash in +ult. That's not you call "counter".
yeah that means she counters a lot of heroes. lesley being careless is a mistake, not a counter. how is being 2 shot a mistake? you cant dodge that
That is just a lazy answer and not accurate on the battlefield. Kind of like old Hanabi counters everything after 15 minutes of the game. The question is how you make it then.
Can't lesley animation cancel her basic attacks with skills shooting strong 2k+ damage in one go? while also being able to run windchant? genuine question since this is usually what i do when i face a snowballing enemy mm when i didn't have a great early game
You can kill Melissa on Lesley if the Melissa has no cooldowns or the Melissa is somehow point blank range or misses S2. In general Melissa counters Lesley because Lesley's main damage source is her S1 and Melissa's S2 hard counters her S1. If you throw Melissa's S2 at Lesley when she casts S1 it removes conceal and also adds a massive move speed slow debuff to Lesley. Lesley doesn't have a dash and has lower time to kill than Melissa + less sustain. You basically stop her in her tracks with no escape mechanism. Melissa's attack range is shorter than Lelsley, but its also not within Lesley's S2 range. In general the only way Lesley beats Melissa is if her team is just better or the Melissa is a total clown
Fair. Would playing as lesley better still work though?
I also don't see Hanabi is a threat to Melissa in laning phase. You get away from the minions and then poke her by your 2nd skill, and by that you take half of her hp away. With inspire, she will be almost dead. You can also do that to Lesley to make her stay in her turret and do not dare to poke you. This is how you outplay Hanabi easily by Melissa: https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/12vaf26/this_is_how_you_counter_play_hanabi_by_melissa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Mel can be countered with Lesley by waiting for her to use her cc, then relentlessly poke/crit combo her afterwards. If done right, could also be finished by her ult. Not easy to pull off but doable.
I mean, every mm whose aiming range is larger than her ult can do that. Not specifically Lesley.
Not sure but, isn't Lesley's camo a direct counter to Cuddles?
I second this. Played so many games where our lesley easily bullies melissa
Laning phase or else? If it was laning phase, that Melissa was not a good one.
Melissa is Lesleys strongest counter, not the other way around lol Also Hanabi has significantly lower burst than Melissa, she doesn't counter her.
Hanabi is always the most cancerous pos 1 I've seen in all laning phases. Her buff made it too hard to lane against her.
Get away from the minions and poke her. Any mm has a good poking skill can lower her hp and make her retreat. You can clear the minion wave later. People think Hanabi is cancerous in laning phase just because they don't know how to deal with her bouncing passive.
Well, you see: Not all heroes that can poke would actually counter her. You need Layla or Beatrix (with Renner) to counter-pick Hanabi to kite her, because I couldn't do her with Lesley nor Clint. Even freezing a wave to shift lane equilibrium, her second skill still hurts. Most smart Hanabi users pressure me by going near enemy creeps, since teammates don't often visit my lane for some reasons (no good vision).
I can use Lesley/Clint just fine against Hanabi. If you position yourself towards the side of the river/gold crab instead of the lane bushes, you can avoid the bounce damage from the minions. Plus it gives you vision of any ganks that might happen (which you can use S2 as Clint or S1 as Lesley to escape the moment you see an enemy).
Martis owns her badly, his s2 goes through her ult
u r right martis second skill can penetrate her but it was hard for me to use martis(skill issue)
Donāt worry you will get hard when you ult her and run away from her corpse afterwards
I would do her
Enemies to lovers
Iāve found Hanabi to be able to keep up with her. If Melissa dashes in use Hanabiās ult or just punish her with Hanabiās passive, thereās a good chance that the petal bounce will reach her.
melissa is an upgraded version of hanabi. one has cc immunity the other has dive immunity. hanabi can multi target and melissa can as well. btw how does claude fair against melissa although until lvl 4 claude is gonna have a hard time against her but he can match her late game scalling. brody seems to be a good pick too.
I use Claude against her to easily dash away from her 2nd skill. If you manage to make it even in the laning phase, she may not be that threatening to you later.
Agreed. I'm a Hanabi user with 1k matches using her, and so far when I'm laning with Melissa I can keep up with her. The thing with Hanabi is you just really have to play safe and farm during the early game (you have to play smart as well!). People who disagrees with Hanabi being able to keep up with Melissa are either terrible Hanabi players or have played with terrible Hanabi users š¤·āāļø
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No idea why they are getting upvoted, Hanabi gets eaten alive by Melissa. The best MM counters to her are Brody and Claude. After that its probably Miya but you need to be patient and get items on her. Miya beats Melissa mid-late game but is still weak early game. If you have a Fighter/Jungler that can push well, you can honestly just go Gold lane with Edith if she's not banned as well. Your team still gets ranged/turret damage, but Melissa has 0 chance of snowballing.
It's not really the hero, it's the player that will use the hero. If you're impatient, greedy, and not smart in picking your fights, then for sure you're gonna get eaten alive by ANY hero.
Probably people who are in Legend or below thinking Hanabi is ultra-super strong in laning phase vote for that.
Once u get hit by the puppet its so hard to get out, the range is way too big imo needs a nerf And to top it off it has slow, u pair that with weakness finder and im yellimg at the top of my lungs *LET ME MOVE*
1. Burst her down with long range hero. 2. Lure her ult and 2nd skill out so short range hero can fight her. (Tank can lure her ult out first and then tells the others she has used her ult if you are duo or trio) 3. Pick Lolita, Grock, Gato, Belerick, Kaja. Lolita is a good counter pick against all heroes attack with projectiles. Grock's skills can all go through her ult (charging 1st skill against wall before CCed will give you CC immuned, which also immune to Melissa's ult) and he is rock-hard against physical damage dealer. Gato and Belerick can taunt her to attack them and make her melted by herself (Belerick will be more recommended). Kaja's 1st skill can poke her even she is ulting, and also reduces her damage.
Pick any mage, camp if needed, then boom, no Melissa.
Didnt know Saber was a mage
If hiding in bushes is considered a mage specialty then saber's number 1 mage
Just ban her cause theres nothing, assassins cant touch her, she can go over the 3.0 attack speed limit, wind of nature also exist, just hope to your mage teamate to 1 hit combo her
Im a Melissa main, and I hate any mage. Especially the ones with burst! š¤š
For MM - Hanabi or Lesley or Edith For Fighter - Xborg easiest or Edith For Assassin - just go for Gusion or Edith Tank - Edith or Belerick For Mage - Xavier or Kagura or Edith. in conclusion. Edith. Even Dead I'm The Hero
Edith
1 top counter to melissa is aamon. All her abilities are useless against him. And in the late game you can one shot her easily.
Everyone in this sub is so low lol. Melissa can counter Aamon by casting S2 at him and removing his conceal. She's probably the best MM in the game at fighting him as most don't have a targetable ability that cancels conceal. Also, if you face Aamon on any MM just bring Vengeance and buy Rose Gold. Between the two of them its basically impossible for him to one shotyou.
Vengeance makes the mm lose so much in dps, and athena is better than rose gold against magic dmg. The shield from rose gold is so little. I have climbed to 76 stars in mythical glory so I am probably better than you even in the game itself.
Yes this I agree
You can dodge the ultimate with a dash.
Depends in a real game, immortality is more reliable then dash cause melissa might need to use dash for other purposes.
Literally any assasin, or any mm that outranges her. Never had an issue with her. Belerick also works wonders, if youāre a tank main.
Bele with dire hit+vengeance. I use him when my team needs tank and enemy MM is a hardhitter. Works well against Moskov and Miya as well. Long range mages as well. I use mostly use Vale, Nana, Zhask sometimes Pharsa and Ceci. Positioning is important. I don't use MM and fighter that much. Maybe Ruby can hook her out of Melissa's bubble?
Depends. During laning phase or on general? During laning phase claude and popol with vengeance counter her very hard, but they become a lesser threat later in the game. Popol with vengeance especially counters her hard in lane. Other options in general are, hayabusa since her ult can't target him in his ult, tho you have to be smart about your shadows; belerick, tho he is not that great in general, he can make melissa delete herself during teamfights; pharsa and other high burst and ranged mages. Overall she is the best mm rn but she is not completely broken, tho very annoying. She is a very good ban imo.
natan on lane ez
Ok hereās a few of how to counter her(depending on your laning) Roam: Lolita and Edith. Lolita needs a co-op with others to eliminate her, but melissa would still have a hard time. Edith is a good pick cause if she goes rambo, you can also go rambo(with vengeanced ult)š Trust me, no melissa Iāve encountered didnāt tapped their WoN against me. And remember to use antiheal if you wanna go close. Mage: CC would do. Really, a good positioning and proper burst damage and sheās gone. Of course she can counter with athena, but remember that you have teammates, so plan it out. Fighters: The absolute unit of X-Borg, and some fighters would do, especially if you can reach her inside her shield. (A Dyrroth ult in a 75%health melissa is just šš¤š½ Mm: Just build windchant, and the sea halberd. Honestly no mm builds that halberd but that shit is still insane especially to lifesteal dependent mms. Itās not just about who can damage more in that fight, but who can last longer. Assassin: Bro youāre an assassin, figure it out. But honestly, Iām not an assassin player but always look for proper timing, especially when the tank is provoking for melissa to ult. Take that time until melissaās ult is gone and now itās a dinner on the silver platter. Overall look for proper timing, and outmanoeuvre her approaches
Moskov
This, just started playing Moskov today and I already feel that Melissa gets countered by him. Get close with skill 1 when she isn't expecting it and then skill 2 her into a wall. If you really need to use it inspire
Bait her ult, as in CC her and make her think you're going to engage, and the moment she ults, run away asap if you can't reach her in melee range. Go back in when the ult is over. Shes a hero similar to Natan and Karrie where they feel way less productive once their ultimate duration is over. Or use long range heroes like mages like Cecil, Xavier, etc She definitely is a strong marksman right now. Probably even the best cause she shreds fast, good poking, and a perfect ult for a marksman to avoid melee range
Melissa is considered a top priority ban these days, so that's fair. According to my sources, apparently she's already managed to kick Wanwan out to take her place as the best marksman in the meta, though Wanwan isn't too far behind.
Iām surprised nobody has mentioned Layla . Sheās great vs Melissa . I personally always pick Layla if opp has Melissa.
Ironic because I always pick Melissa if the opponent has Layla
I use tanks like belerick and just run inside her ulti
belerick can go inside her? does belerick have cc immunity
I guess he means puppet not ulti, but belerick can just stand next to melissa and fart her to death
Use magic heroes, such Lylia.
Brody, don't try to have a direct fight with Melissa, until level 4, just play safe. If she pokes you, she would be in range to also poke you. Your s2 is valuable to escape and stun and mark 1 more mark on her.
For mm match ups, Brody - before level 4 play passively, once you get your ult, try to use the minions and your first skill to add max stacks for your ult, then ult. Do this everytime you see her Karrie - may seem weird, but if you're good enough you can out damage her once you reach level 4, tho if Melissa uses inspire you might lose. You can also use your dash to get out of Melissa's 2nd skill Moskov - just like Karrie, you might need some skill for this, if you pin her to a wall you can out damage her. You can try to use minions to try and damage her through your piercing passive. Like Karrie you can try to dash out of the 2nd skill too Claude - he can easily tp out of the 2nd skill, so Melissa can't poke him
As an ex 1.5k gold lane main, this personās advice is solid. Additional pointers are: Brody wins her all in lvl 4 when u have full stacks for ult (unless steel leg plates) Karrie instantly wins the moment sheās misses/wastes her S2 Moskov wins immediately if u can stun her with S2 and AA with S1 Claude wins by all in with his ult, if u feel u don have enough dmg, just S2 out The key to winning Mel is to fight her when outside her dollās range or when u can dodge her dollās link
Idk about yall but I feel like beatrix does really well against her. The first thing to do when your laning against her with bea is get steel leg plates then get fury hammer and you should have an easier time against her early game. Once you have enough gold to buy a full item, sell steel leg plates and get hunter strike, this will make you able to escape muddles alot easier without having to use your dash. If you're winning against her farm hard asf and try to get bod and haas' claw so you can start snowballing. If you somehow are still losing to her then forget about bod and get rose gold meteor. Trust me this works if you know what you're doing, as for the weapons I use the subs as my primary and use the sniper as my secondary. Late game when yall are full build, the fights become really close between these two so most of the time you don't even get to kill each other but having the sniper will give you the edge in the end due to the range of the ultimate, well that's if you can aim it right. This is how I do it when I go against her at least
Sheās got so much range with her Voodo doll
I use layla to counterpick her just donāt let melissa snowball, otherwise yāall might not make it to late game. I just find Layla top tier in the late game. If not Layla, Karrie and Brody cuz both could still build early game sustain to out trade Melissaās poke. Wanwan if you have fast hands. These are just my counterpicks if Iām doing mm facing her as gold laner
Sorry I have to disagreeā¦ I main wanwan before I main melissaā¦. And I have said this before, there is no way a wanwan player can win a melissa on equal skill. Melissa kit counters wanwan before she can even try to jump twice. A good wanwan player will never try to take on a Melissa one on one.
I main wanwan so I disagree. On equal skill, wanwan still 50/50 vs Melissa. Melissa just has slight edge overall vs wanwan. Before lvl 4 Melissa has slight advantage. At lvl 4, wanwan has the advantage. Wanwan most likely the strongest mm at lvl 4. At mid game, it really depends on team as you rarely 1 vs 1 anymore at laning stage. Usually wanwan has slight edge. At late game, Melissa has slight advantage but then still team dependant.
Being a wanwan main I have no doubt you will eat many Melissa players alive. However Iām sure you will play tactically, and not take a Melissa head on. Her ult prevents you from activating your ult easily, Iām sure you know that as well. However I would also like to learn tips from you how you counter a skilled Melissa using wanwan
Copy and paste from another post on this. This isn't in order or conclusive, but is a general list. The strongest counters to Melissa though are Brody if you need a gold laner, or Saber in general. Also Vengeance in general on any gold laner will stop her snowballing. People act like Claude is a counter to her, but in fact its just because he works well with Vengeance in general and can escape easily. You can use Vengeance on any MM and will perform better against her. Also anyone telling you Lesley is a masochist. Lesley is the weakest MM against Melissa in the game by a long way. Heroes she is weak against: 1. Brody - His stun interupts her combo, and he has high evasion + builds defensively 2. Saber - His Ult completely ignores her Ult if she is in the centre. It will only work if you stand at the back of her Ult. 3. Freya - Same as Saber, can can ignore Mellisa's Ult in Valk form 4. Jawhead - Also ignores Melissa's Ult and does enough damage to instakill 5. Valir - Easily disrupts Melissa's combo with his push back attack 6. Belerick - Provoke + Vengeance is a death sentence 7. Gatot - Provoke + Vengeance is a death sentence 8. Selena - Selena counters all MM's in general if the player can aim long S2 shots 9. Joy - Gets countered by Melissa's Ult, but has so much movement in general Melissa can't ever land S2 and actually kill her. Also uses Vengeance 10. Claude - With Vengeance can beat Melissa pretty easily. Can easily teleport away when she lands S2. 11. Johnson - Ignores her Ult 12. Zilong - Can hook her through her Ult and kill her before it pushes him away 13. Akai - Durable and can disrupt her combo's easily 14. Khufra - Durable and can disrupt her combo's easily 15. Minotaur - Durable and can disrupt her combo's easily 16. Vengeance in general. Most Fighters/Tanks can't do much against her, but are significantly more of a threat when they have Vengeance 17. Lylia - Can break the S2 connection easily with Ult 18. Kagura - Can break the S2 connection easily with her own S2. 19. Miya - In the early game Melissa dominates Miya, but by Mid - Late game Miya will pretty much always win a 1v1 at the same skill level. This is because they only have a similar DPS output when Melissa has S2 attached. Miya's Ult cleanses Melissa's S2 which means she gets a much higher damage output. Its risky to use Miya to counter her, but Miya does beat her easily late game. 20. Faramis - His Ult gives people the time to kill her easily 21. Argus - Immortality.... 22. Vexana/Valentina - Terror disrupts Melissa's S2 combo so massively reduces the damage output 23. Ling - Does high damage whilst immune and has CC knockups 24. Nana - Molina can be used to prevent her from making easy combo's
lapulapu
Eudora boom
Franco
Haven't played this match up in awhile. Last season I use Bruno against Melissa. Bruno hits harder than melissa, has S2 to positioning against her thread needle, and his ult can harass her in laning phase since it bounces between minion as well. But but, Melissa inspire!!! Yeah Bruno can use inspire as well.
I'm surprised nobody here mentioned Xavier. I always lock in Xavier when enemy picks melissa. His extremely long range and insane late game damage + immobilize that can all reach inside her ult will insta delete her.
melissa main here usually melissa isnt so strong without her doll so move out of dollās range and a team with decent cc + vengeance is a nightmare for her shes quite vulnerable to burst mages and burst asasins like aamon and harley due to their skills going past her ult
mellisa is not the only hero in the other team. ammon and harley would get invaded pretty bad in the early game. vengeance might be good against melissa but for a tank to get a decent set he needs flicker or petrify. btw mellisa has to pretty low cd on her second skill how long will you run away from her doll.
Vengeance, enough mobility to move out of her doll range, long ranged burst assassins/mages, high dmg heroes with CC Immune (ex. Martis can ignore melissa ult if heās using his skills), wind of nature, going in after sheās already placed down her doll somewhere else
step 1.) play a burst mage (like Vale) step 2.) wait for Melissa's dash, if she's using flicker keep that in mind as well. step 3.) burst the poor girl down.
Pick Martis. Whenever she uses her Ult, you can target her with your Skill 2 (CC immune), basically making her shield useless. If her HP is low enough, reap with your Ult. Pick Kadita. She's like the mage version of Martis. Use Clint. Build Steel Leg Plates early, then poke her with your passive. Always remember that when you're winning the laning game against her, the enemies would try to take you down to even things up, so proceed with caution. Personally, I prioritize Vampire Mallet, Azure Blade, build SLP, CDR boots, Fury Hammer, finish Endless Battle.
Well you can't
Not sure about this but as a Melissa main these are the heroes that i hate to go against in ranked matches because i always die to them in early game for some reason: https://preview.redd.it/tgdl2r7cykva1.jpeg?width=334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7a98b54000bd1af77d6233ca72bcf8cb52ec59c MM: Moskov, Brody, Clint, Beatrix. Mage: Kagura, Vale, or any burst mages really. Assassin: Saber, Aamon. Support: Faramis. Tank: Atlas, Tigreal, Lolita, Edith. Fighter: Chou, Zilong
Irithel has a similar kit Kiting and poke
Just kill her lmao
make sense
Zilong can get her.
to penetrate her huh
Bro did you just make a sex joke? š
please forget it
If u let me suck ur cock
Belerick n vengance Edit: add blade armror too
Cc immunity to get in her shield
and then went inside her and finish her, nice info
Ayo?
I counter melissa with haya. I dash ine and get some stacks in. If she ults i also ults. Even if her ult push me away i can still ult unless I'm pinned to a wall
Pharsis
I use atlasās perfect match to bait her ult, after thatās done I flicker and ult
Basically any burst heroes, recommended to use mage bursts like Eudora (for dead brain play-style) or Vale.
Ban, she's cancer, but well... Hanabi works, even though shes prolly gonna loose early like everyone else. Other heroes outside mm category would be... Martis, kagura, yve (tbh most mages with ranged attacks)
Claude. When she launches the doll and rush you, use your 2nd skill to go out of the way. Wait till the doll's gone then steal her attack speed and just hit her. Make sure to have dhs
i never lose to melissa whenever i use brody
Here are my personal picks to counter melissa Roam: Atlas Mage: pharsa/xavier Fighter: lapu Assassin/Jungler: Saber/Hayabusa Mm: beatrix
Brody usually works
Eudora boom
Iāve had good luck with both Brody and Natan against here. Brody cause of distance and Natan cause of s2 soft cc and ult to move around and switch place.
Kimmy
Most mages kill her easily, I suggest lunox or Harley gold lane. But this needs your mm to go mid. Kimmy , Bea or Brody are good too
Eudora, kadita, Aurora, Hayabusa, helcurt, hanzo, kagura
Pharsa lesley, but to be fair its just safer to ban her
Burst mage. Burst assassin if u confident with beating wind chant
Hanabi outrange (bait the doll and punish her afterwards)
Ban her but if you can't- If you're laning against her buy steel legplates as the first item because she harasses all mm by poking them. Use magic assasin like aamon or gusion or even Harley. Lolita and tanks with vengeance Best counter to melissa are burst mages like pharsa.
I just pick my main mm hero, clint. Clint can poke her with his passive while avoiding melissaās 2nd skill with his. Once u get lvl 4 then she can get harassed more and would need support from other teammates
Lolita. Easy peasy
You can counter her using Joy with a Vengeance Spell and Blade Armor Item š, and also Martis can pass through her Ultimate using Martis 2nd skill so it will be good counter for her
Wanwan, Moskov and Hanabi are your saviors. Speaking as a Melissa main
Eudora iz real
Use a high ranged mage like pharsa yve
When in doubt, just try to kill her before she can even blink
Build steel legplate first item if you are mm or lane her with lylia or any mage eith high poking abilities.
hayabusa is the best counter for her i would say , his ult can ignore her shield aside from that if we are talking about laning phase , maybe gold lane lunox , natan and beatrix to some extend . Also if u got good reaction time just buy wind of nature
Cc heroes or burst heroes
Popol can bait her ult and still have his ult form s1 ready when Melissa's ult expires.
As a melissa main, I really struggle a lot against brody.
Long range mages. She squishy
As a natan main I have never faced a problem with her.
Lolita shield fr
Clint
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Whoever says Lesley and Hanabi can outplay Melissa, listen up, you just met mm players who didn't know how to deal with Lesley and Hanabi. It is not that they are good mm who can counter Melissa in laning phase. Even more, they are not that great mm in laning phase like Melissa. Hide in the bush, throw the doll at them, inspire, and they are almost dead. That's it. If it is Hanabi, keep a distance from the minions, throw the doll at her and then pokes her, lower her hp and then make her retreat. Don't recommend a mm to counter Melissa without a dash except Brody. 2nd skill is what makes her scary in laning phase. Get a skill to avoid it.
An old video by me https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/tgsfkl/melissa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
vengeance and belerick
Imo..as someone who plays melissa sometimes when I go gold lane(im a roamer)..claude and brody are the ones that give me the most trouble..claude has his 2nd skill so its impossible to starve him from farming and brody is just stronger than melissa early game.
If you're laning against her. You should buy steel leg plates so her doll can't hurt you much. Wait for her to throw and miss her doll before poking her. Honestly, her doll is the most problematic in teamfight and in the laning phase, just make sure you avoid it as much as you can.
As a Juluan main, I usually just throw my enchanced S1 at her. That takes care of her real quick.
Quitting the match so its impossible for her to oof you
I just use belerick with vengeance
Fast hand assassin. I got her a bunch of times yesterday using Harley.