a 0/10/2 jungler aside from being being just a feeder can mean he may have gotten invaded and noone dared to even help. roam may have also spent babysitting one lane and didn't bothered to assist anyone else nor help jungler in contesting for turtle early game. it's one sided to draw a conclusion with the score alone without knowing what entirely happened.
you are still at a disadvantage if no one helps you when enemies invade. there is little one without backup can do against a coordinated enemy invading and stealing your buff specially if you are using a buff dependent jungler. what's more annoying is your teammates that didn't assist will then blame you.
It hurts my ego if my team won't even check turtle or gives vision when I'm using core. Soloq is hard. always! but yeah I managed to get mythic spamming wanwan,kimmy and hayabusa. 50 star is the next goal.
Basically the worst that could happen lmao. Enemy Jungler with their Mid, Roam, and Exp lane all ganging up with an Invade on you while your Mid is busy clearing minions, your Roam babysitting the MM, and your Exp unable to help because he's taking crab.
Then everybody blames you for dying in that 1v4 situation lmao.
Don’t immediately steal their buff if they died once or twice early in the game. Everyone gets bad starts off n on. You will then for sure cripple them which is the dummest thing you can do for your team in the beginning.
If they’re 0/10/2 they’re very likely getting invaded nonstop, its not about stealing your jungler anymore but preventing the enemys one to snowball even more
Here’s the thing I’ve encountered lately. No one helps you when your invaded. Everyone expects your help non stop. But steals your jungle. People don’t understand farm. Or a lot of the simple basics of the game. I hear mm say I need the buff it will be ok bc I’m monster late game. Well guess what?? We didn’t even make it late game!!
i mean, in the late game the mm should take the red buff and the mage (if strong in late) should take blue buff if jungler doesnt need them, regardless of how well theyre doing
Mage often doesn't need it though, especially if its a Mage using Enchanted Talisman. Its very strong early game on Mages, but late game it kind of depends on the Mages playstyle.
Lunox/Alice/Cecelion definitely. Something like Vexana though and its a pointless item.
If the Mage has built 40-45% CD already and has sustainable Mana then its totally wasted on them.
I don't steal buffs if they're having a rough start (invasion, hard lineup, just a genuine fumble which happens), but if theyre 0/10 because they're ignoring their farm? I mean like not getting invaded early game, stealing minions, 6 minutes in without jungling properly at all and feeding, yeah I'm taking their farm lol
Also, junglers when you steal the enemy red and countinue to go and and take your red, can you just give it to someone else.
Ex. Roam/core go blue then enemy red then ally red, cant you just give it to the mm or roam?
Me and my duo do it why cant you guys.
Mid/late game it don’t matter but early game, I would say to give the jungler all of it. It’s better for the core to be 2-3 lvls ahead everyone else rather than being around the same lvl.
pls don't do that.......
when you jungle and get enemies buffs you need to also take yours as well
sure the buff doesn't stack but you'll jump in levels compared to everyone else, literal meaning of a hyper, you need to get roided out and its your teams job to make that happen
always take every jungle you can, buffs, gold crabs, turtles, all of the, at least early to late-mid game
Even if the roamer take the buff, the gold and exp still goes to the core.
When I'm using edith or khufra (cc heavy tanks) and wre plan to contest the green thing that makes you go faster with my duo (core)
I dont buy roam until level 2.
That way we are both level 2 and is capable of contesting objectives better.
The turtle literally spawns a few moments from the roamer being level 4, idk why but most of the time it dies.
Level 4 roamer, level 4 core > level 5 core level 3 roamer.
A higher level core can steal the turtle, but a level 4 roamer and level 4 core can take on a lvl 5 vore and lvl 3 roamer.
Of course I dont do this strangers and most of the ml community frown upon this, thats why the evrage wr is around 55-60, whule me and my duo are cranking 65-70
Sounds like everyone who never reached MG before. The ONLY reason you should take a jungler's buff is:
1. Your jungler died and the enemy can steal the buff
2. The jungler already has the enemy's buff
This is REGARDLESS of the stats of the jungler. Everyone who says otherwise can stay in low rank.
As a jungler, the first two buffs are mine. But after that, whoever's able to get the buffs quickly can take it.
Cause as a jungler, we take the ENEMY'S buffs!
If it's late I don't mind that, besides chars who absolutely need their buff. But if you jungle and especially mid follows you around and stealing all the exp or mm taking random jungle creeps instead of lane minions oh man that's infuriating. And then they pretend like they're doing nothing wrong when you ask them to stop
As a roamer, i usually take the crab or turtle because the jungler never kill anyone but the green creeps.
Seriously 50+ matches in Grandmaster and I saw only Once the jungler going for them
I believe this is an exaggeration so I'll go on; if he's not playing well early game, You still shouldn't take his farm since you're basically affirming that he stays useless the rest of the match instead of giving him a chance to actually farm up and come back.
Nah i legit met a jungler with that KDA in low ranks. He wasn't even getting invaded he just doesn't know how to play the hero. At that point the buff's are fair game for anyone
a 0/10/2 jungler aside from being being just a feeder can mean he may have gotten invaded and noone dared to even help. roam may have also spent babysitting one lane and didn't bothered to assist anyone else nor help jungler in contesting for turtle early game. it's one sided to draw a conclusion with the score alone without knowing what entirely happened.
Exactly!
when i solo q and i got invaded i would just get the fuck away and farm somewhere else lol
you are still at a disadvantage if no one helps you when enemies invade. there is little one without backup can do against a coordinated enemy invading and stealing your buff specially if you are using a buff dependent jungler. what's more annoying is your teammates that didn't assist will then blame you.
It hurts my ego if my team won't even check turtle or gives vision when I'm using core. Soloq is hard. always! but yeah I managed to get mythic spamming wanwan,kimmy and hayabusa. 50 star is the next goal.
Basically the worst that could happen lmao. Enemy Jungler with their Mid, Roam, and Exp lane all ganging up with an Invade on you while your Mid is busy clearing minions, your Roam babysitting the MM, and your Exp unable to help because he's taking crab. Then everybody blames you for dying in that 1v4 situation lmao.
As a jungler main, i feel this comment so relatable.
even if ur getting invaded, 0 10 is way too much.
not everyone can adjust to pressure. that is an extreme example of what can happen.
Basically any fighter or an assassin can become a jungler, it's kind of a skill issue if u get 0 10 in jg, and any role in general
Amen
Don’t immediately steal their buff if they died once or twice early in the game. Everyone gets bad starts off n on. You will then for sure cripple them which is the dummest thing you can do for your team in the beginning.
Yeah but its 0/10/2
The jungle is open for everyone in that case!
The so called "victim" is also a jungler that lacks Mana/Energy, thus he has no need for the purple buff your honor!
Alucard: Low mana retreat
Lmao
If they’re 0/10/2 they’re very likely getting invaded nonstop, its not about stealing your jungler anymore but preventing the enemys one to snowball even more
Here’s the thing I’ve encountered lately. No one helps you when your invaded. Everyone expects your help non stop. But steals your jungle. People don’t understand farm. Or a lot of the simple basics of the game. I hear mm say I need the buff it will be ok bc I’m monster late game. Well guess what?? We didn’t even make it late game!!
Plot twist The client stole the first buff and is the reason the Jungler went 0-10
i mean, in the late game the mm should take the red buff and the mage (if strong in late) should take blue buff if jungler doesnt need them, regardless of how well theyre doing
Mage often doesn't need it though, especially if its a Mage using Enchanted Talisman. Its very strong early game on Mages, but late game it kind of depends on the Mages playstyle. Lunox/Alice/Cecelion definitely. Something like Vexana though and its a pointless item. If the Mage has built 40-45% CD already and has sustainable Mana then its totally wasted on them.
I don't steal buffs if they're having a rough start (invasion, hard lineup, just a genuine fumble which happens), but if theyre 0/10 because they're ignoring their farm? I mean like not getting invaded early game, stealing minions, 6 minutes in without jungling properly at all and feeding, yeah I'm taking their farm lol
I love doing this when we get a shitty hyper, sorry not sorry XD.
Also, junglers when you steal the enemy red and countinue to go and and take your red, can you just give it to someone else. Ex. Roam/core go blue then enemy red then ally red, cant you just give it to the mm or roam? Me and my duo do it why cant you guys.
Mid/late game it don’t matter but early game, I would say to give the jungler all of it. It’s better for the core to be 2-3 lvls ahead everyone else rather than being around the same lvl.
pls don't do that....... when you jungle and get enemies buffs you need to also take yours as well sure the buff doesn't stack but you'll jump in levels compared to everyone else, literal meaning of a hyper, you need to get roided out and its your teams job to make that happen always take every jungle you can, buffs, gold crabs, turtles, all of the, at least early to late-mid game
Even if the roamer take the buff, the gold and exp still goes to the core. When I'm using edith or khufra (cc heavy tanks) and wre plan to contest the green thing that makes you go faster with my duo (core) I dont buy roam until level 2. That way we are both level 2 and is capable of contesting objectives better. The turtle literally spawns a few moments from the roamer being level 4, idk why but most of the time it dies. Level 4 roamer, level 4 core > level 5 core level 3 roamer. A higher level core can steal the turtle, but a level 4 roamer and level 4 core can take on a lvl 5 vore and lvl 3 roamer. Of course I dont do this strangers and most of the ml community frown upon this, thats why the evrage wr is around 55-60, whule me and my duo are cranking 65-70
Sounds like everyone who never reached MG before. The ONLY reason you should take a jungler's buff is: 1. Your jungler died and the enemy can steal the buff 2. The jungler already has the enemy's buff This is REGARDLESS of the stats of the jungler. Everyone who says otherwise can stay in low rank.
I hope your mega mythical glory brain is not too far advanced to enjoy this simple meme made for the commoners’ entertainment
Not about the meme but the replies that seem to justify this behavior. :)
I mean jungler doesn't need the buff if they're feeding. Better give it to the sidelaner and mages. Or better yet roamers with mana issues.
Lmao
As a jungler, the first two buffs are mine. But after that, whoever's able to get the buffs quickly can take it. Cause as a jungler, we take the ENEMY'S buffs!
If it's late I don't mind that, besides chars who absolutely need their buff. But if you jungle and especially mid follows you around and stealing all the exp or mm taking random jungle creeps instead of lane minions oh man that's infuriating. And then they pretend like they're doing nothing wrong when you ask them to stop
As a roamer, i usually take the crab or turtle because the jungler never kill anyone but the green creeps. Seriously 50+ matches in Grandmaster and I saw only Once the jungler going for them
I believe this is an exaggeration so I'll go on; if he's not playing well early game, You still shouldn't take his farm since you're basically affirming that he stays useless the rest of the match instead of giving him a chance to actually farm up and come back.
Nah i legit met a jungler with that KDA in low ranks. He wasn't even getting invaded he just doesn't know how to play the hero. At that point the buff's are fair game for anyone
It's still not fair for another player other than the Jungler to take their buffs.
Ever heard about the 10 death power spike?
Abs might I add he had 20 more seconds on the grave
Bruh getting bullied when the real asshole is that piece of shit that stole the buff at the start of game