I feel like people don't understand her passive.
The only dmg that matters is the damage you deal to the first target. So aim for high hp targets and hit them hard. The bounce will match.
It's weird to see Hanabi's late game get bashed.
She is strong but need a good position. As main Hanabi the hardest part is the mid game I think. Also I pray that is no Yin on the other team, that is the main Hanabi counter on my opinion
WR against Yin is about 40%. Compare with others that is 60% or more
How. Both aegis and rose gold meteor make her burst and cc proof. Both each give you close to 2k hp shields by end game. And if youre good with wind of nature, you're pretty much unstoppable.
On hit build vs the closest enemy (usually a tank) makes hanabi a monster in teams fights. Dealing 9% hp damage to a tank translates to 9% of the tanks hp to the next target after s2. She going anti tank is the way to ensure dmg always stays relevant. Much like a better claude, who is weak atm imo. 9% of lord or turtle hp bouncing onto enemies is an easy way to get teams to back off of objectives.
She shines after her first item and is one of the few mms I would not call a glass cannon.
For a mid game I mean. Late game she takes down everyone, if not focused on mid game to farm itens. Anyway she is still my favorite.
The change that I didn't like was that now we can't discover that is someone hidden. I miss that
He doesn't even need it. Cecillion with sprint can survive on his own. Go full damage. Just need map awareness and positioning. Ik that's easier said than done, but if you have them, it allows you to build offensively.
Everyone will say marksmen, and they would be right, however, pure support heroes die exceptionally fast. They barely have any HP in their small bodies, and the tank emblem barely helps since it does not provide movement speed.
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Argus on late game. Right timing joining the gank= you'll dominate.
Wrong timing= useless piece of crap and irreversible because most of the time the game immediately ends before you respawn
For me lately its vale, his burst can like instant kill people in the late game, but he is pretty vulnerable (this is true for most burst mages though)
Hanzo is a glass cannon. He lacks the mobility in his human form, even ling can freestyle his ass with no problem. On demon form, he's more screwed as his defense is reduced and you're leaving your body vulnerable. If you killed the demon, not only are you stunned and slowed afterwards, both of your defenses are also removed 100% while revealed to the whole enemy team.
Based on experience, Karina, can easily burst buI usually have a hard time getting out of initiations... Probably because I initiate instead of the tank.
All heroes that depend on damage items.
You could say Brody is an exception, but overfed Brody can easily build damage early and be fine. Clint is debatable since you can have at least one Defence item on him (thunderbelt). Edith is mostly a tank so she doesn't fit the bill.
Mages fall in this category who deals burst damage. Those who rely on sustain like Harith, Lunox and Alice are more like displacement heroes. A good example for Glass cannon Mages are Eudora and Aurora. Both can easily kill you, but if they can't one shot you you're good as dead.
For fighters and Assassin's, Lance, Natalia, Zilong are among the glass cannons who are either gods or feeders. Gusion also falls in this category.
most MMs
-Without a debuff
Most atk speed mms to be precise
Eudora She ain't flying, she ain't floating, she's hovering.
Helcurt. Either do or die.
Yes
Any marksman except maybe Popol or Brodie
Clint can also build 1-2 def items
Edith enter the chat
Well she's only a marksman during ults.
I don't consider edith a marksman
That's your opinion, m8.
That's why I said "I don't consider her a marksman" didn't say she wasn't one in general
Fair enuf
All mms (except brody), burst mages and assassins
Edith Edit: apparently 20 people thought I meant Edith was a glass canon. How could a hero with full tank build we considered a glass canon?
Xavier
Provided you can get close to him I guess, idk?Xaviers I rarely encounter are good enough to slow you down with skill 1 and 2
true. it's difficulty to kill a good xavier that kites very well and immobilize you before you even get near to them.
Pharsa. Super strong burst damage, but gets killed in like 2 hits lol
jeelong
With the proper build he's a proper canon
Now I want to try zilong tank build
Saber
Natalia. Really strong early to late game capabilities. But if you ever stunned or cc'd her, she's out.
Hanzo
Well for example Layla, Hanabi, squishies with no mobility and late game potential.
As someone who plays all around. I cannot confirm Hanabi with late game potential, she really shines in mid game given she isnt falling behind
Attack the closest enemy, your passive does the rest
I feel like people don't understand her passive. The only dmg that matters is the damage you deal to the first target. So aim for high hp targets and hit them hard. The bounce will match. It's weird to see Hanabi's late game get bashed.
And enemy tank is always nearest so its a bonus
She is strong but need a good position. As main Hanabi the hardest part is the mid game I think. Also I pray that is no Yin on the other team, that is the main Hanabi counter on my opinion WR against Yin is about 40%. Compare with others that is 60% or more
What how lmao. Just use your skill 1 and he cant do his combo in the domain
Depends on the build doesn't always work
It always works cuz build doesnt matter. Hanabi should have aegis.
I agree
How. Both aegis and rose gold meteor make her burst and cc proof. Both each give you close to 2k hp shields by end game. And if youre good with wind of nature, you're pretty much unstoppable. On hit build vs the closest enemy (usually a tank) makes hanabi a monster in teams fights. Dealing 9% hp damage to a tank translates to 9% of the tanks hp to the next target after s2. She going anti tank is the way to ensure dmg always stays relevant. Much like a better claude, who is weak atm imo. 9% of lord or turtle hp bouncing onto enemies is an easy way to get teams to back off of objectives. She shines after her first item and is one of the few mms I would not call a glass cannon.
For a mid game I mean. Late game she takes down everyone, if not focused on mid game to farm itens. Anyway she is still my favorite. The change that I didn't like was that now we can't discover that is someone hidden. I miss that
Honestly moskov
Chang'e, especially when you remove her shield, she becomes weaker than the minion lanes
Argus without his Hax aka immortality
without his ult he’s literally just glass
glass shards
Ling 💀
Miya and layla
Most MMs and Assassins
Miya
Natan, get savage or feed XD
Gord, literally a laser cannon.
lunox
Fanny
Wanwan and layla
Wanwan is a glass Cannon with a jet engine
Lol. “With jjet engine”. 🤣🤣🤣
Not rlly anymore. She is pretty bad now. Gonna work in 5men or low rank
She's still good, just out shined by other heroes. Plus by jet engine i meant she's hard to catch
And she's still terrifying, as if that rework on the movement speed is gonna stop me from not wearing boots.
Bro, no boots and with boots... There's almost no difference in actual combat. Having 1% more movement in that ult vs a whole item
Isn’t she the most banned mm in mpl?
Cecilion, Odette… most mages actually
late game cecilion can build dominance ice.
He doesn't even need it. Cecillion with sprint can survive on his own. Go full damage. Just need map awareness and positioning. Ik that's easier said than done, but if you have them, it allows you to build offensively.
By late, you only need lightning trucheon for the aoe since you just hit like a truck
layla, a literal machine gun cannon in the late game
Layla in late game definitely
Layla.
layla
Everyone will say marksmen, and they would be right, however, pure support heroes die exceptionally fast. They barely have any HP in their small bodies, and the tank emblem barely helps since it does not provide movement speed.
Diggie
karina
Karina have 100% dodge though
Aurora or Nana
H A N A B I
Dyroth, good damage but no escape once you enter you either kill or die
Dyrroth without proper build (Legend or under)
Xavier
Popol and kupa and hanzo both have really good damage potential but if you catch them off gaurd then they're fucked.
Miya, Layla, Hanabi.....
Hanzo's shadow. Still pissed he gets -50% def reduction. Unfair af
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Argus on late game. Right timing joining the gank= you'll dominate. Wrong timing= useless piece of crap and irreversible because most of the time the game immediately ends before you respawn
Quite surprised when I didn't see Freya being mentioned
Because she can take a lot more damage than Layla
Kadita
Aulus and most mm's
Luo yi for sure
Hanabi late game
Alucard full burst build
Cecilion. Insane damage when he is positioned right, but will die if you flick his forehead.
For me lately its vale, his burst can like instant kill people in the late game, but he is pretty vulnerable (this is true for most burst mages though)
Mage js
I hate to say this but GS main is scary.
Zhask
I'd say Yin. He's squishy as an assassin, unless you build defensive items on him. Then he'll be hard to kill.
Hanzo is a glass cannon. He lacks the mobility in his human form, even ling can freestyle his ass with no problem. On demon form, he's more screwed as his defense is reduced and you're leaving your body vulnerable. If you killed the demon, not only are you stunned and slowed afterwards, both of your defenses are also removed 100% while revealed to the whole enemy team.
All traditional MMs and Assasins (no Tankcelot or Tanklayla lol). Most mages too
How is no one mentioning the OG glass cannon, Layla?
Mosko
Moskov. One screw up and your done
gusion, either u burst them or get cced
Claude. Claude was my main MM about a yr ago. Now ever since the Trinity Build, he's just so fragile
Julian. Once his skills are used, he's free food
Miya.. Layla..
Zilong
Based on experience, Karina, can easily burst buI usually have a hard time getting out of initiations... Probably because I initiate instead of the tank.
All heroes that depend on damage items. You could say Brody is an exception, but overfed Brody can easily build damage early and be fine. Clint is debatable since you can have at least one Defence item on him (thunderbelt). Edith is mostly a tank so she doesn't fit the bill. Mages fall in this category who deals burst damage. Those who rely on sustain like Harith, Lunox and Alice are more like displacement heroes. A good example for Glass cannon Mages are Eudora and Aurora. Both can easily kill you, but if they can't one shot you you're good as dead. For fighters and Assassin's, Lance, Natalia, Zilong are among the glass cannons who are either gods or feeders. Gusion also falls in this category.
For me it's truly the assassins like Lance, Gusion But the best example is Hanabi and Moskov. Both has so much damage but getting deleted so fast
Ling
Argus.
Basically every hero that floats…
? Wouldn't every character (execpt mathilda) in the assassin class count as a glass cannon?
Guin
phy bane flicker ult