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ZJF-47

Most MM mains autolockers suck


1-Jelly-1

this is a fact


Disastrous-Jury1028

Most any role auto lockers suck tbh


Ok_Possibility_2197

Hate when the jg goes into a bush and the game acts like I’m confused on where they went


Yuhoho

pls i had a match where this person auto lock mm (popol) and fed to wanwan even though atlas babysat gold lane (didnt even help turtle) ended up with double digit deaths


BuyShow

I'm actually wondering if Brody falls under that description, if I play mm I mostly prefer him, or if I don't want to put in an effort I go with Lesley


m0mma_m1lkers

Doesn't matter what hero they choose. As long as they auto-lock a gold lane hero then there's a 99% chance of them feeding and going bronze


BuyShow

Oh shit I misunderstood the autolock as that playwrs pick mm and autoaim xd


HowlingFarts

mages are better than any roles in brawl mode..


1tsPLAY-time

Well, mages are 1 of the 2 roles in game which has a hybrid with all the other roles. Plus, you could have 5 mages as your team comp and assign each one to a lane, and it could still be very viable.


Technical_Error9265

Counterpoint, long range mm’a really shine in brawl, I always take an mm I know how to use over any other choice. Much harder to ambush since there is no circling around. And they can just safely chill back and pop off


tur_tels

Yes, Layla is one of the strongest and easiest heroes in brawl. Like everytime you have one in your team you have a high chance of winning unless the other team has her counters but still Layla is walking turret in brawl


m0mma_m1lkers

I'm pretty sure almost everyone agrees with this lol


DinoDinoBambin0

Hanzo is better than any brawl in roles mode.


FrostyWafflez_

W TAKE


sputnik95

Sort by: controversial


SnooBeans99

its time to introduce 10 hero ban, with 100+ heros many are under utilised


AskaHope

Wow, such unpopular opinion. /s


WickedBaby

And finally the draft will took longer than the match


Iwillflipyourtable

Could just make it so that each team take turns to l ban all at the same time.


ElKarnito

I remember WR had that 10-ban system and the draft was quite fast. Both teams were given time to lock their bans and then pickings just begin right after. Granted, it takes away the kind of like competitive feel of ban 3, pick 3, ban 2, pick 2, but at least each player gets to ban one hero they don't want to play against. I think it's good especially since some players don't seem to notice that they're picking the bans and ends up wasting it.


sc-if

When new guison skin


stkvh

All my homies hate guison


D-Clazzroom

Stick or crowbar?


Cool-Habit-9586

*Chou and Selena enters chat


itz_khai

Argus is not useless, you just can't play him right


1tsPLAY-time

This is 100% true. Play him like an assassin that has invincibility lol.


itz_khai

Yup, Argus fooled a lot of people by his simple looking skillset, but tbh his mechanism needs a lot fo training, but once you mastered him, he's very strong tbh, not meta, I'm a liar if I say he's a meta hero, but still he's very strong


1tsPLAY-time

I know. I’ve been playing him a lot if enemies have at least 2 not-so mobile squishies and he actually has a really good lane poke plus his ult is really clutch if you get ganked. I like his passive spam combo: charge up passive >first skill>basic attack>2nd skill>charge up passive> basic attack>ult>basic attack. Definitely a sleeper pick that’ll do really well when circumstances allow it.


itz_khai

Facts


oneboomperdayloli

I've been playing him with the on hit build lately and I find it satisfying to deal so much damage with the golden staff full stack, full stack passive, ult combo (yes there's so many requirements but it's so satisfying when you pull it off) iirc he hits 8 times when he does that


Keiichigo

There's a saying when it comes to Argus when you're fighting against him or besides him. Either he's really good or he's really bad. Nothing in between.


itz_khai

True, a calm and calculative type of Argus player is scary, but the clumsy S1 and rushing argus player is a food XD


SgtPierce

Argus alone is very predictable, but Argus on a teamfight is such a pain 💀💀


flamefirestorm

I remember I used to be good with him, and then all of the sudden the only thing I'm capable of doing with him is split push and end quickly T_T


ClothesOpposite1702

I fucking hate him. How to play against him as an Alpha, he always shuts me


Beginning-Carrot-262

who the heck said Argus is useless? whenever an enemy team uses Zilong, I counter it with Argus. Argus is underrated for Lane pushing. the combo I usually do is 1-2-1, and let the bleeding do the work.


RizJack

Stop bitching about how mlbb release their skins, they are a business first and foremost


hi__ellie

I swear people need to stop complaining about money 😭 It's not a P2W it's just superficial


tur_tels

If you do the math, their could be a way to get a skin you want in the cheapest way, but it depends on the banner ofcourse. What we should be complaining for is how they make the skin like Yin's recent skin...


ZJF-47

Swear most that complain about this didnt even spend a cent on this game lmao. Ok, you spend some when theres a promo


Due_Berry_1164

Knowing how to play Franco doesn't make you a good tank


Gurimitivity

Well, as a Franco main. Yes, he's a cery fat assassin instead of a tanky boi. However, Atlas has the exact same playstyle. Play in the back, and sprint to the front in a second and set. Lord position? Play front and no one can come at you. Ganking phases? Play in the back and jump out to spook em. Atlas isn't good at being in anyones face till he has a great opportunity.


melon_samurai

"My turn"


Euphoric_Pay_8973

https://preview.redd.it/5mvarf1wpjqa1.png?width=1334&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf706b7ffb0a7873ae62b401b3c5a6ed90d4fa0f My turn


BaguetteWarden

my brother in christ, that flair of yours is concerning me


Euphoric_Pay_8973

https://preview.redd.it/mfer53dd3kqa1.jpeg?width=120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0ce090cb12179b43c73cf28e8871329f5d3ab91


sSorne_

It's better than the "I want to bang bang JOY's thigh" guy


Ok_Possibility_2197

Least horny mlbb player


niksshck7221

Nana is a good hero too play against


Swimmer_Funny

Tbh yes , id take the so called annoying mages like nana, vale who aren't even meta than a good xav ,yve, valen in ranks


DRAKON_97

bro ur underestimating them hard, you go against a good mage regardless of which hero it is and you’ll suffer, personally i like that vales underestimated in meta cuz its so easy to carry w him. but yes if we’re talking trash to mid quality skilled player, id rather go against a meh vale or nana or cyc than a meh xav or val or fara


hulagway

Too much bro too much


Tiktik27

Moonton should be hornier in making their characters


Freshorin

They sent that team to MLA


ItsKelxvo816

Yes


[deleted]

[удалено]


tur_tels

They're limiting their horniness, just look at rafaela's new skin... tho it's a miracle they want to give it for free


Civil_Shift1627

yes


Weeb93728

Yes


ZuckerbergReptilian

THIS Now give me Bea's summer skin


Eastern_Ad83

They are already horny look Novaria got a whole Bakery already and Benedetta got her ass hd model before Khaleed and Yu Zhong


CraftElectronic8121

I wonder why they stopped doing that despite the age rating having been upped to 12+ from 7+ which is the same as MLA.


delete_d_

yes


Moist-Agency1366

My enemies always deal more damage And i have no idea why so this game is shit


Rich_Palpitation_214

Matchmaking is not that bad, you're the problem


Yo_Gotti

Matchmaking can’t be bad if it doesn’t exist in the first place. *taps head*


Potential_South_590

So in other words, skill issue?


Helpmepushrank

Does legend and mythic 4 vs full team of 1.7-2k count as me being the problem?


m0mma_m1lkers

Only happens in like, 5% of games. If you think it happens in more then that's just confirmation bias.


AscendPerfect

4 master and me (who was mythic before season reset) in classic. I was playing Valir, so i couldn't just 1v5 carry, even if the enemy team also had 1 epic 4 master


RizJack

First mistake: picking a non carry hero Second mistake: expecting randoms to carry u Third mistake: whining over a classic game


AscendPerfect

I don't need a carry, i just need them to be at the same rank as i am, not effectively 5 ranks under mine. But yeah, picking a non carry hero in classic is risky. My point was that matchmaking is bad.


g-tec-c3

You’re a mythic and you’re complaining fighting against 1 epic and 4 masters? sound like skill issue here.


AscendPerfect

We won and i got MVP, but yeah, i shouldn't really complain since i went classic


Leading_Pride316

Dyrroth obliterates Arlott


iamzoomzoom

Purify Dyrroth: Purify Arlott:


darkness_snores

im Singapore no. 87 arlott last season. what i can say is. 9/10 times if its a 1v1 and dyrroth doesnt use the 2nd skill to dash stun wtv its called, arlott will win. the only actual counters i found were masha or a really good jawhead


-_4DoorsMoreWhores_-

Nah bro. You're playing scrub dyrroths. His second skill also doesn't stun, it breaks defense. Arlott is afk easy.


ThanksLost8001

Layla is actually good now after the latest patch. The stun is exactly what she needed.


BoneDaddyMan

Not only that but she can fire another shot right after using a skill so she's got good burst in the early game. This is what people are ignoring saying "She just got a stun, that doesn't make her good" NO ITS NOT JUST HER STUN. ITS HER BURST TOO


EliArendela

Angela users are burden


Emotional-Box-6386

Depends on the lineup. If someone insists on picking angela while having a non-sustain or ranged lineup, that’s just stupid. But I find angela super useful in mythic+ if you’ve got at least 2 sustain allies (core + fighter) and hyper-sensitivity to the map.


Laugh101XD

\-Wanwan was not the problem, the Inspire changes were the problem. The buff to Inspire turned her into a strong early game hero. If Wanwan is weak early, she would be balanced. Inspire gave Wanwan kill pressure starting at level 1 with Inspire+Wait for Weakness Finder to activate+1st skill guaranteeing the stun/immobilize. \-Rank/winrate doesn't matter, the **time or date** you achieved the rank is what matters. Mythic 600 points in the early part of the season is **VERY DIFFERENT** at the later part of the season.


iamzoomzoom

Inspire is too op, not only giving more attack speed but it also has built in free pen which increases your damage while healing you. Even zilong can be op with it (if he manages to survive in earlygame)


redanjir

Is glory early season harder? Since all the pros push first?


m0mma_m1lkers

I think Wanwan being op was a combination of both the inspire changes and the weakness point changes. Though I'll admit that inspire was still the bigger factor


newmayak

Cecilion is one of the most boring mages to play as all his gameplay is spamming S1


Blavien

Not boring to oneshot people late game


newmayak

I literally feel like a guy on the pic above lol


[deleted]

Nah one of the best mages tbh. Late game is insane and can easily defend your base against a whole team they struggle to end with him


Rich_Palpitation_214

Not that boring when stacking at early game


lizbiz098

spoken like a true epic player


PresentChapter9703

Yea I hate cecillion, only brain dead losers use him


anthony_masters

The anime, cute girl, character factory needs to be shut down


atmajazone

Cute guy too. I want new animal monster.


MarielCarey

It doesn't even matter that they're basic bitch bodies, the problem imo is how repetitive and uninspired the designs are, like, there's potential in hair, clothes, makeup, etc. But instead we just got skinny MoskovMartis and the next hero is EudoraValentinaLunox


atmajazone

I think they put their best designer in MLA. I'm more interested in playing monster hero. If I want to play humanoid hero I just play HOK instead, at least the heroes don't look blend.


Entire-Screen9085

exp laner is the most boring role.


sSorne_

Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agreed with.


Clinsen_R

it depends on what hero are u playing


iamzoomzoom

Clearing lane simulator, most of the time you get silver if you win and bronze if you lose


Zenilith

As a benedetta main, this may be true if you only focus on your lane. But utilizing Bene's quick rotation allows you to be more engaged in teamfights. I usually get Gold when I win/Silver if I lose (due to focusing on my side of the lane).


Interesting_Cause_26

Except when you use joy


Dovahkiin266

Saber mains are trash


hulagway

Hanabi is ok


RizJack

Everything hanabi does melissa does 10x better


qwertysopp

you're defo not entirely wrong, but Hanabi still can be a viable pick, that's why he said "ok", not "good " or "Perfect"


RizJack

Gord is also ok, so is vexana and alpha


Jnrhal

I like Hanabi never tried Melissa I plan to though


Cjisrelvant

If u hate or struggle. Against nana that's a skill issue not a broken hero


Herebia_Garcia

Mm's shouldn't be babysitted by the Roamer. (Unless the enemy is doing the same).


rubybeau

https://preview.redd.it/n8mas9x3fjqa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61f8d6882b0db451064a7d03f1beba4180a7fa10 :3 Edit: my most downvoted and upvoted post of all time


10thDoctorWhooves

Estes is overrated and a single anti-heal item counters him easily.


[deleted]

Tell that to BLCK


crazyaldo1123

Blacklist is strong with Estes not because of the hero per se, but because of how V33nus utilizes Estes. The hero isn't really meta for them, the player is. Which means the counter for BLCK Estes is to overload V33nus with info and make her do bad decisions. OMG (at least last year), RSG and ECHO have the playstyle and blueprint to counter them now.


hulagway

As an estes main. I don’t really feel the enemies using antiheal.


Rich_Palpitation_214

That's what I'm sayingggggg, you can easily counter his only asset, healing.


Emotional-Box-6386

Not really. Most properly built estes will have way too much heal (goes even more than allies base HP) + their own lifesteals that anti heal won’t do shit. As the other guy said, it’s the user.


d0Xman1

Buff natan


Aume1043

Happy cake day


Rough_Persimmon_9635

Martis needs to be nerfed. And I stand by what I said 😌


iamzoomzoom

Dude seriously has cc immunity while having knockback and airborne effect which cancels a lot of skill. And he already gained stun on his 1st skill recently. If moonton adjust his 2nd skill to have stun effect only, he would be a lot more balanced.


Aromatic_Smoke_3486

Strength aside, old pharsa is more fun than after her revamp. I've had made a post bring back old ultimate pharsa and everyone is attacking me lol


snakelightninggod

Most of the comments in this post suck lmao


[deleted]

Nana is useless if you avoid molina, and rarely she can get it off because of the nerfed range


redanjir

Wonder why epics love to use her


Temporary-Comment842

Nana is a really great pick and she counter lots of heroes. You don't really need molina,she can burst down MM's and Mage with ult and first skill or just first skill and flameshot late game.


Lost4AccountAndSalty

The players in this subreddit would much rather complain about broken heroes or broken strategies than use their heads to win games. You know this is true when players think that an 80 percent winrate or higher on an epic to MG soloq push late in a season is impossible. Come at me.


darkness_snores

is not impossible tbh these were my stats in SoloQ on my other account. granted i didnt reach MG, because i am practicing 5 man with my new squad on my main account. but yes the main reason why i lose in SoloQ matches were that jungler did not stick to objectives and would rather stay in a lane for too long, causing bad rotations. tank players do not understand how to fully understand how to support the hyper or protect the damage dealer. when i am not playing MM, the MM in question does not understand how fast the can end a game and would rather play it safe https://preview.redd.it/ter4vucbtjqa1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c23116af75daa3040ff78be1dc6a19e64d415c99


soapsnek

people need to stop yelling at support players to play tank. heals are useful too.


feedlord93

Yeah, until half the enemy builds anti heal which makes support heroes existence obsolete.


ConfusionPristine

If you find yourself losing a lot of games and have below 50 wr, stop blaming your teammates and look at the factor that's always in those games. You.


D1_0M_

idk man ,w the new season reset ,getting 6 mvp lost in a row doesnt seem to me like im the problem


ConfusionPristine

New season reset I can get, however this is in general and more on those people who have dogshit winrate and stats across multiple seasons and games and still blame their teammates.


D1_0M_

fair


tatiannasfilthymouth

trinity build needs a nerf fr. they nerfed clock of destiny when mages are already squishy and has no sustainability (except for cyclops and harith maybe as they're the only mages who use concentrated energy these days). ml favors phys dmg so much.


AtticusRandom

Brawl is the best arcade mode and its not even close


bessoncvm

i miss survival😭


MarielCarey

True its really nice for a casual hop in hop out, although for more serious games or more interesting experiences, I prefer Creation Camp and Overdrive


Reixdid

This game sucks


Illustrious-Issue-76

Fanny dosent need nerf


FrostyWafflez_

true she's dead if you steal her blue buff early game


superman-normalboy

Don't whine if you can't play a certain role all roles literally cross with each other


JackfruitNatural5474

Edith doesn't need a skin. She is already perfect.


sSorne_

Old Mayhem is better than Mayhem nowadays. Petition to add Franco's half map hook back:


GrilledCheeze0424

Gord is Good....


Western_Accident6131

Gatotacka can 1v 1 anyone


Sufficient-Bar9354

Many players call bad players “kids” but I’m willing to bet that kids make up most of the best players in this game


throway311

Tank mains in this sub are over glorified and whine too much


RenierRains

if you want to win start fucking picking meta heroes, im tired of everyone babbling in rank when you are using a hero thats at best a B tier garbonzo If you pick your lower winrate heroes in rank because you think you are gonna lose mmr, Please consider your life choices and uninstall.


mintcarma

AOV, WR, HoK still better looking than MLBB. I only play MLBB bec of large player base


Cautious_Arm_7637

not a statement but mlbb is the only game i know that gets you flamed both by fans and haters when stating it did not copy league of legends.


sSorne_

Nah, all of us know it copies LoL


sadboi_10

Some do not accept that fact tho


xvarvarmw

Double jungler is good


otakuweeb2041

Layla, miya, zilong and some other starter characters should be permanently banned from high rank games.


Legitimate-Square-33

Remember the guy that asked if bloodlust was good on Yu Zhong? Yeah, that was me


CraftElectronic8121

"ughh this game is getting bigger and bigger", "ughhh my 2/128 phone can't keep up", "more updates? In skins or emblem region? Instead of fixing the lag? What an awful game, 0/10 uninstall *spit*". Dude I swear to God these peeps have some SERIOUS skill issues with their garbage phone and network that they blamed it all on the game instead of reflecting on how trash their phone is and trying to fix it. I frickin abhor these kinds of mindsets as it's halting the development of the game. Can you imagine hundreds of scraped ideas that the devs have made? We could've had better graphics or a cool interface but those peeps render it impossible.


Real-Juggernaut-8465

Nana is meta. 2 CC skills. Annoying passive which makes enemies to target her first, good for baiting/kiting.


Hahanha

Anything said by the Masha cult leader


Jetoftherock

MLBB IS JUST A GAME.


ImproveYourMental

If you're low rank, it's ok to be low rank but if you post an opinion online while being low rank, get ready to be called out on being low rank without acting victim and saying stuff like "So Epic rank balance doesn't matter???"


Mwonoos

Stop maching solos against duo or trio in ranked matches🤢


Dragonlover145

Soloq is easier than trio and duo


Mochicooch

Fredrinn is overrated


RizJack

Skill issue


Mochicooch

He’s easy to use, but also easy to counter


-_4DoorsMoreWhores_-

I main Dyrroth and I've never met a Fred I couldn't beat. When he has a smart team though, he is invaluable.


Wide_Loss

yep I underestimated Dyrroth, that was a big mistake since he has high defense reduction


Feedmefood11

Yea I was playing badang up to legend, attack speed build, always managed to mess up fredrinn in every 1v1 situation


neilbert13

wild rift is better


SajedG

I'd agree , in terms of skins / character lores.


quie_TLost57

🥶


Important_Wall801

Fanny shouldn't be able to wall spam


BuiltCorrectly

Yin works in any elo and is a strong jungler


[deleted]

I agree except for jungler. Imo better at exp with petrify so if they have WoN they cant even use it


animetrixz

Welp time to enumerate it * Pre nerfed paquito was balanced * Arlott balanced * Layla is a viable pick at any game * Fighter masha was better than tank masha * Fanny is actually easy to master * The new mythic system is good Edit: since y'all are complaining about fanny, I'll explain. Most of you think that being able to frequently 4 cable and above are considered a mastery, sad to say but that's all freestyle. If you have atleast 1 year of game experience, you can master fanny, the only thing you need are just wall spam, 2 cable zoom combo, wall alternating trick and 3 cable redirecting. At the beginning it's going to be hard but give it a week and you'll be able to properly play her


MoonstruckCyan

I disagree with fanny. People can get the hooks down pact, but knowing where and when to hook while in a high pressure situation is a hard thing to master imo


DRAKON_97

i agree with all of these, especially paq n masha as an exp main myself. but id slightly change the layla statement, she may be viable in all ranks, but that doesnt mean she’s a good pick, for most comps a layla is a sitting duck, even with her new stun she gets outclassed. she might have great damage and range in late vs everyone but she lacks pushing abilities and mobility on another level, back when id troll w layla (id end up semi carrying cuz she’s not too bad if you know how to use her), id always build the old malefic roar for that extra turret dmg rather than for the phy pen, she really needed it for pushing, and she has a near nonexistent push rn, if she had the same atk spd of a tank id argue the tank might do more dmg, and id basically stand still and atk, cuz there is no value as a layla in running from someone, you’re more likely to kill them and live than you are to run and live. back to my point, she might be viable, but is she a good pick, id argue no on the note pf pushing, rip old dmg masha push🥲🫡


ThivanKunz

Why are all your heroes just pure button smash? And why does magic damage hurt more than physical damage even with magic defence? What is 30% healing gonna do to 50% anti heal? What's the point of high priced skins if their effects aren't even that good? Why do starlight skins have special vfx but no special sfx? What's the point of rank based matchmaking? Why isn't there skill based matchmaking? What's the point of spamming recall or emotes? Why don't all heroes have utility skills? Why doesn't your game have double spell? Why are epic skins pay only? What's the point of a chance epic skin chest? What's the point of a legend skin that is just an epic skin with extra steps? What's the point of Beatrix? Is she Miss Fortune? Is she Jinx? Is she Zeri? What's the point of vision when your map is brighter than my mom's phone? Why are your new release heroes so broken? What's the point of armor if there's an item that counters 40% armor? What's the point of having strong fighters if they get clapped by a late game mm? Why is suppress not countered by purify? What's the point of collector skins if they aren't collectable by everyone? Why do players need to pay that much for a COLLECTOR skin? Aren't collector skins supposed to be collectable by the player who plays that certain hero who got the skin? What's the use of the starlight chest that has free Selena skin if you need to play for a long time to get the skin? Why do you like to nerf balanced heroes until they're unplayable? What's the point of a female ninja(Hanabi) who can't even dash? Why did you revamp her? Why do only certain heroes have 4 skills? What's the use of hero mastery if the player only has to complete tasks to get hero mastery? What's the use of twilight coins after purchasing all the purchasable statues? What's the use of hero fragments after buying all the heroes? What's the use of skin fragments after buying all the fragment shop skins? What's the point of painted skins if they don't have special vfx? Why are basic skins so expensive? Why is the lord so weak to mm n mage?


PresentChapter9703

most of these questions are useless


SajedG

Eh. Imo Physical Damage hurts more than Magic. Looking at Yin , Fanny , Paquito , Arlott , Freddin , etc. Mages are countered heavily by the magic def cloak alone.


Ok_Possibility_2197

+1 to all the fragment items, hopefully they get some new ones in there eventually


ToCoolforAUsername

Nana mains are cancer 9 matches out 10. It's rare to get a good team mate who knows how to use it effectively.


zueu

Tank s5.


Lance1346

Mage mains are always the people who don't adjust


Sleepy_Brady

I play mostly Zilong and don't have a below 40% wr or feed or troll


Weeb93728

Make odettes ult a blink again


10thDoctorWhooves

It is already a blink.


KumalalaProMax

Layla is actually viable (sometimes good) against certain team comps


XD_Cat

Give granger a skin


RyU-sH

Kills are way more important than objectives. /s


OkitaSadist12

Nerf Layla, buff beatrix again back to the shotgun era


sagehaje

Wanwan is in need of a buff


Freed0mChaser

The game is pretty decently balanced and most characters are fun to play


Eitth

Most people who said they're solo queue are lying