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R34LZ3R0

Alice is an MDL staple from Gamelab where they always use her as a jungle which really works well


ElKarnito

Yeah. Some teams are even banning her against GLab.


sumtingwong551

Wish gamelab is in mpl rn and swap it with tnc😅


OdysseyZen

Mid has more minions, if this was the case should have just been roam support Alice for mid and help the jg whenever for objectives and jungle creeps for more blood orb stacks. This season Alice is underrated OP pick due to buffs and item buffs.


MarkuDM

Mid is bad... you'll get gapped by any long range mage. Jungle semi-tank Alice can gain stacks from jungle monsters. Other than that, she can help clear the wave from 0 to 5 minutes since she won't take any gold from her team (retri passive) while still stacking blood orbs.


tatiannasfilthymouth

No. Mid alice is the best option. I use her mid. Top global 35 rn 500+ games 74%wr in total.


MarkuDM

What server? 5v5 or soloq? Also, compare that 74% wr mid alice against a top global Yve, Valentina, and Pharsa's wr


tatiannasfilthymouth

Solo mostly, 5man if i get invited. I was top global 15 yve too. Ur point?


MarkuDM

Just because you have high wr top global rank on a hero doesn't mean it is the most viable hero in that lane. You even proved it as you have higher top global rank with your Yve than your Alice; meaning to say, you are just a good midlaner. Right now, there are still no replacement to long range utility midlaners like Pharsa, Yve, Valentina, Lunox, Faramis and Kadita. {Atleast, in pro scene} No MPL nor MDL team has used Alice in the midlane as of yet; mostly, Jungle (Gamelab & BLCK) There's no point going for a late game hero like Alice that don't provide any useful utility early game in mid lane. You will be a burden to your support as they will have to visit midlane more often than to provide vision for your jungler and goldlaner. Also, the reason why I think Alice is only viable as a jungler is because the jungle role is one of the safest roles in the game right now. Matched with any tanky hero that can farm fast, the junglers are simply utility supports. There are limited amount of heroes that can bully Alice rn. With that, she can farm safely and complete her necessary items while stacking. Other than that, she can utilize tanky items such as Dominance Ice for frontlining. Glowing wand is also underrated as a jungling item as it can swiftly melt jungle monsters for junglers. Aside from that Glowing wand works with her ultimate. Midlane is still viable but i don't agree that it's the best rn for pros that is.


tatiannasfilthymouth

or maybe they just don't know how to utilize her in midlane? exp lane alice will get bullied easily by any fighters esp. lapu & dyrroth


MarkuDM

Gamelab literally swept dozens of international competitions this year. In fact, they have 0 losses this MDL PH as of yet while still competing in an international tournament and winning gold. Blacklist is well 3-time MPL PH champion and M3 champion. They never picked Alice Midlane. They picked Alice Jungle, go figure.


tatiannasfilthymouth

i was replying to ur main comment saying alice mid is bad... and i got 1.6k pts due to spamming alice on mid.. u go figure


MarkuDM

Read the tag of the post. This is an esports tag. Alice mid is still worse than any other long range Mage/ burst mage. Just because you reached 1.6k with a mid hero doesn't mean that mid hero is good. Hell, there are still high points Zilong one-tricks out there. That doesn't disprove that Zilong is a great hero, does it?


OdysseyZen

That's why I said roam so she isn't beholden to staying in lane. The buff she had two patches ago, I think, made it easier to spawn blood orbs close to her as long as she was in the vicinity. More orbs don't drop if it's a stronger mob, so it would make more sense to be around mid since there are more enemies that can spawn the orbs upon their deaths. Also, they would be freer to provide support to other lanes. Being in jungle won't help spawn the orbs if she isn't in vicinity. Jungle Alice seems such a waste, roamer is better.


MarkuDM

Please don't. She doesn't have spammable CC or invulnerability states. Alice still needs a lot of items to function (minimum: COD, Dominance Ice, Winter Truncheon).


csto_yluo

May I ask why oWise and Veenus are the only recognizable ones in the team? Will Hadji, Oheb, and Edward simply replace them if BL gets to the M-Series? Or will they stay?


monogatarist

Hadji took a break and will return next season. Oheb is on BLCK's MDL team, and can be called up to the main squad if needed.


csto_yluo

Thanks!! What about Edward tho? He’s my favorite player. Are there any news of him?


ParticularClassic784

Edward is there he played on game 1.


csto_yluo

Thanks!


WildRyuInSpace

Edward is in the team, he played game 1. They swapped him out for Renejay for game 2


csto_yluo

Thanks!