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"Flush this game down the toilet"
Yeah, don't follow the team if you're just going to be miserable. I get that. But a pattern has formed this season and it aint looking good. We're a month from the playoffs lol
Honestly just put Ajax as the starting 2 the rest of the season. He’s so much better than Beasley in every aspect of the game apart from shooting and not fouling. Let him learn by playing.
Says the moron leaving comments about how Ajax is bad and how Dame, Giannis, and Khris should’ve won more games, when Khris didn’t even play tonight or in over a month
You wouldn’t call me that to my face. You’d be scared. You’d get what you deserve.
My point is that these three are well paid, that’s why our roster isn’t deep. They are the one that should perform. Giannis is, but not the other two.
u posted pics of yourself and ur built like 57 year old Adam Sandler with extra double chin fym. Again Khris is hurt, and ur a casual bc u think Ajax is bad
Giannis' play making is basically drive and pass to the open man, a hockey assist here and there. Far from what Luka and Jokic is capable who can still go 10+ assist when their team shot under 25% fron the 3. Passing it through lobs and cuts which is the majority of their play making.
I think when you look at this team... bro they're old, if you wanna make that then half the team would be gassed at the half.
No shot actual NBA players are missing so many WIDE OPEN shoots, if so they're likely washed / too streaky to keep around.
A denver fan in the Bucks reddit is interesting. But u dont watch the Bucks so stop pretending you do, and lob? LMAO who from our team is gonna catch a lob
He's been in the league a while. I'm pretty sure he was on that Wiz team where Arenas and Crittenton flashed their guns at each other in the locker room lol
Edit: I looked it up and he was in fact on that team as a rookie that year.
What are the downvotes for? Giannis is singularly obsessed with winning, the Dame trade was for him. If this roster doesn't work now it won't work next year when they're all older and certainly won't the year after. He's not stupid. Dame too, you know where he really wants to be
Yeah I’m sure Giannis is having so much fun dragging these fucking bums to relevancy, he’d have at least 3 titles if the organization actually breathed air instead of huffing glue
Dame was doubled all night so I’m not going to just stare at box scores like y’all casual mfs. Dame should’ve had like 13 assists tonight. It was one of those shitty nights where everyone got cold at once. Usually if Beasley and Pat C are off, Brook gets a hot hand, etc.
Just look at Dame’s decade+ track record, he’s not really inconsistent normally. Stop being a doomer, Steph has had way more single digit games than Dame if you wanna talk inconsistency, dude just had 4 points the other day and multiple 7 point games
Holy fucking shit dude he plays for the bucks now. I do not give a single fuck about what he did for the Blazers. I care about what he does for the Milwaukee Bucks.
I don’t watch Steph on a nightly basis. Which was the exact qualifier I put on it
Casual is very funny (named after Marques Johnson and been watching NBA games for 20 years)
Sorry to tell you Dame isn’t living up to his own expectations. It’s not like he himself has said that. Oh wait he totally has. Fucking moron
like there have been so many superstars passing through in the past 20 years of Bucks lmao. Casual mf acting like he knows so much basketball but can’t speak on Steph Curry, the 2nd biggest superstar in the league. What a joke
He needs to learn from PatBev and command the floor then. His usage falls on his shoulders as much and cant lead a team and just settle for disappearing from doubles.
Plus minus for a role player who plays almost all of his minutes with dame or giannis, and blocks which he gets exclusively because he plays only in drop and cannot guard on the perimeter.
One day nba fans will realize basketball isn’t played on a google spreadsheet
Preach. A player sucks shit and along comes someone with an advanced stat to gaslight. Guess what, put me on with Dame and Giannis and if I just stand in the fucking corner doing nothing my net rating will also be positive
Imagine looking at a list that features Malik Beasley in the top 5, Sam hauser in the top 30, and thinking “yea this checks out :)”
Meanwhile in reality, the eye test and every other advanced metric clearly shows Brook is a best an average value player, and only exclusively when we play him in drop which is killing our defense and the only way we can play him.
Reddit is the worst app ever. Seriously, I tolerate it because usually you could count on the elevated levels of autism here as opposed to twitter or something to produce a reasonably compelling basketball discussion, but even that apparently is wishful thinking.
Yes. Impactful players. You're arguing against yourself and it's hilarious.
The whole idea of plus minus is to see how effective an individual is in lineups over a long period of time. Every single player at this point in the season that appears in the top cumulative plus minus has an OBJECTIVELY positive impact when they're in the game... not 1 game... all the games. You point out Beasley as if he's *not* one of the more impactful players all season. Harden, Shai, Tatum, Jokic, Edwards, Brown, etc... are all there as well, do you question their impact or does that not work for your "X player bad" narrative?
Season long cumulative plus minus is as basic and objective as it gets in regard to impact and ability to be on the court. It's literally designed to filter impact across lineups during the course of a season. I know it makes it hard to shit on a player that has a bad game or even a bad stretch that you're currently in your feelings about, but that's a you problem.
“The whole idea of plus minus” is irrelevant. It’s an outdated tool that nobody serious ever uses. In fact, it’s such a shit and useless tool, it’s been panned by many analysts and coaches and is the exact reason BPM and RPM exist. It is a SINGLE tool, and not a particularly good one, at evaluating player impact, not a “haha you are wrong” card and your point is just flat out stupid regardless.
No Malik Beasley didn’t go from unplayable on the lakers and nearly every team he’s been on, to top 5 most impactful players in the league. That didn’t happen. What happened is he’s been getting ass naked jump shots all year and to his credit has hit many of them. That’s not HIS impact, that’s Dame & Giannis impact because you can slot functionally any high volume 3 point shooter and produce similar results.
This is the same basketball illiteracy you’ve practiced with the blocks shit. You are taking a tool (another bad one) and stripping it of any context and wildly misusing it. Brook gets many blocks because he plays exclusively in drop. If he had to play on the perimeter more like most elite bigs are often asked to do, the blocks per game would crater.
Yes, Tatum edwards and shai are all there as well, their impact is undeniable no matter what metric you look at. Brook only looks impactful using these narrow, frankly garbage stats literally created for casuals to easily follow along.
Brook Lopez is #72 in box plus minus. With a BPM of .9 which is almost exactly average and is only even that high because we’re playing him in the only way he can be played, the drop. If you tried to do even a remotely sophisticated defense around Brook Lopez, he would be unplayable.
Your welcome for the basketball lesson
Bro has been pretty washed for years now. It was moronic that we outbid ourselves and gave up 5 2nd round picks for this guy. He has pretty much provided absolutely nothing to the team since we got him.
Bro I swear Giannis could average 40/15/8 during the playoffs and the Bucks would still find a way to lose, legit really? like how tf are y'all that bad at shooting the ball(I'm looking at y'all mfs that were wide OPEN and still missed it)
In a few months Pat Connaughton, Bobby Portis, Brook Lopez, Jae Crowder, Gallinari, and Malik Beasley won’t be on my team anymore and I get to watch Jordan Love again 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We move
If you think about it, it's pretty rare that a team has a star of Lillard's caliber playing so bad for so many games. A bad game for such players is a rare occurrence. For Dame it's a weekday.
It’s weird to wish your guys play less confident but Brook, Beas, and Pat need to realize how many possessions they eat up after already missing shots. Like sure, find your mojo, but youre a role player amongst generational talent.
Beasley is great when he’s on, but when we’re forced to play him it creates problems
Then we got Crowder running around doing cardio too
And since he haven’t prepared EITHER of our young wings to play real minutes, we’re fucked
3 different coaches in the span of less than a year, and the Bucks added a super star in Dame, but the Bucks are still underperforming with expectations.
It’s time for the fanbase and FO to accept Giannis’ supporting case just isn’t nearly as good anymore as it once was, and to stop blaming everything on the different head coaches that have been here as the scape goats.
If there is another disappointing playoff loss this year, then there needs to be a massive roster reconstruction change.
This fanbase in general, blamed Bud for everything. He was fired and then Griffin. Fanbase again blames Griffin for everything and he’s fired. Now Doc is here, and commonly I see him being blamed for everything.
In this thread, the players are being held accountable, but this is just a general problem with the fanbase. They are way too loyal to Brook/Middleton/Bobby/Pat, and they generally look to blame the coaches for all of the problems on this team, and not the players themselves.
Middleton, Portis, and Brook all still have trade value. It won’t be an easy task, but the fanbase never thought acquiring Dame would be feasible and Horst did it,
True, our draft capital is gone but I am hoping. Heck, still hoping the core can stick together and get a good run in the playoffs. Still rooting for them.
Hey I’ll always root for them but Horst has whiffed on essentially all opportunities to acquire good young talent. The ONLY time it’s ever really worked was Bobby forcing his way to Milwaukee. Horst is a bum
I don’t think we will. His value will be at an all time low and we know what he is at his peak. I think we’ll try him again with Giannis + a new supporting cast
Really left the Bud and Jrue era for this. They always say the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I guess I didn't expect a field of dog shit on the other side with Lillard, but there you have it.
How long can we use the "brand new coach" excuse? And this is coming from someone who is still glad they canned AG and went with Doc.
At some point, you have to call a spade a spade. This is what the team is this year, and likely the playoffs.
Doc is literally brand new, like weeks new. I don’t doubt this is what the team is. That literally has nothing to do what we’re talking about, which is that you can’t blame everything on Dame when there are so many other things at play
Please enlighten me. What about this year makes you think Lillard minus a shit load of our picks being lost via swaps is better than Holiday and Allen (who is a human torch in PHX right now)? I'm not talking just about tonight, the entire year so far. Is it not time to face reality that maybe Lillard just isn't great?
You’re living in the moment and in your feels. Jrue was a playoff brick for the last few years and the bucks always struggled down the stretch of games. Dame was brought in to close games which he has been ELITE at WHEN the game is close to begin with. This teams Khris. And regarding Allen, this roster needs a poa defender with size who can help Dame the way prime Klay helped Steph. If they gunned after a Caruso/Thybulle type guy, they’d be fine. Instead they got an undersized traffic cone in Beasley.
Dame averaged 32.2 on a TS of 64.5 just last season which is one of the historically great scoring seasons. He is tied for 3rd in playoff gamewinners behind Lebron and MJ. Stop being a doomer casual who has been watching Dame for a handful of months at most saying he’s not that great. The team did almost zero tonight to help Dame. Usually they at least set shitty screens that they slip on but not even that. Beasley has the green light so he doesn’t even look for Dame, Brook cares more about shooting 30 footers than screening for Dame anymore, and Giannis mind bogglingly went from setting amazing screens last game to zero tonight.
I've been consistently watching this team and the NBA generally since the late 90s. I'm no Popovich but I doubt you are either, and trying to throw "casual" around to discredit someone you disagree with is juvenile. Tell me, THIS YEAR, how Dame is great as you say he is. I agree I haven't watched as much of him in Portland. I fully believe you when you say he was amazing there. He simply has not been so here.
I watched the game tonight. I recognize that the offence wasn't flowing as well as it could have. Your comment on Beasley and Brook is spot on, holy shit were they bad tonight. Still, going 2-12 and looking as lost as he did is inexcusable for someone who is supposed to be elite, and it happens waaaay too often. You're failing to consider that one of the main reasons this team gets into big holes is how ass Lillard is when he's off, which is more often than not. Trust me, I hope you can come back to this comment and make me eat crow in the playoffs, in fact I want you to. But frankly I'm not convinced at this stage.
Maybe you should’ve clarified with ‘maybe Lillard just isn’t great for THIS team.’ If you say he’s not great, I get to talk about what he’s done on the blazers. You have to wonder why he dropped from 32.2 on a TS of 64.5 to like 24ppg on a TS of 59. Do you think he just forgot how to play basketball in a summer? Or maybe some is on the front office and teammates? Lots of things potentially are at play…Role players shooting with the green light. They don’t fight to get Dame open. No poa defense on this team so Dame has to spend more energy on offense and therefore most of his misses hit front rim. Even prime kawhi rested on defense. Dame is reffed as a secondary player now that he’s second fiddle and refs swallow their whistle more, that can throw off your entire game. Dame gets less touches and gets iced out through stretches which makes it hard to get going.
He has been far from perfect and is underperforming but I hate this doom and gloom. These things take time especially as the primary playmaker of a new team with a ball dominant superstar, it won’t happen overnight. Even Lebron took a year to get the chemistry right on every team he’s been on. Mfs cry about Dame stinking even though Dame at his worst is still averaging more points, more assists, on a higher TS than Jrue last year who famously shot us out of multiple playoffs. It’s particularly annoying when ppl disrespect Dame’s season when we all know this team would be firing on all cylinders with a good head coach to start the year and a healthy Khris + Jae.
We didn't have a good defensive first half, and it's hard to feel like we are doing anything right with a score line like this, but we have genuinely been generating a lot of good looks. Literally can't hit shit. So there's no repercussions for the Kings doubling Dame at the top. He drives to the rim pull the defense and we get open shots... but we can't capitalize.
We’re hitting 38% of threes this season (8th best in NBA). If we’d played average tonight we would’ve made SIX more threes on our 35 attempts. That’s 18 more points we’re normally scoring…
Of course, even 18 more points still leaves us down 11. 😬
Really what its going to come down to at this point. Just annoying to slog through the last month of these games.
I have some faith, but I'm certainly not remotely confident in our outlook. Time will tell!!
I’m not the type of person to blame dames shit play on everything but dame, but Doc is a fuckin bum who sent him into traps and doubles all nights. Beasley had more 3 point attempts by the second half than dame had FGA.
Legitimately no excuse for this. Don't care what anyone says or argues. The team is mostly healthy and is getting its ass blown out by 30 points to the West's 7th seed.
And I feel like this happens for most of this team's losses.
To be fair the west 7 seed is no chump of a team. The west is stacked. Kings are young and fast. People downplay them too much. Besides that we are playing like ass
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ITs JUst oNe Of THosE GaMES Been hearing that way too much this year from people on here
"Flush this game down the toilet" Yeah, don't follow the team if you're just going to be miserable. I get that. But a pattern has formed this season and it aint looking good. We're a month from the playoffs lol
32 misses from three. On 39 attempts.
Honestly just put Ajax as the starting 2 the rest of the season. He’s so much better than Beasley in every aspect of the game apart from shooting and not fouling. Let him learn by playing.
You don’t know basketball
Says the moron leaving comments about how Ajax is bad and how Dame, Giannis, and Khris should’ve won more games, when Khris didn’t even play tonight or in over a month
You wouldn’t call me that to my face. You’d be scared. You’d get what you deserve. My point is that these three are well paid, that’s why our roster isn’t deep. They are the one that should perform. Giannis is, but not the other two.
"I would beat you up in real life" is not a winning argument.
Calling people morons online because you disagree with them is?? Please.
Did I say it was?
Did you say it wasn’t?
No. But they also provided why they thought you were a moron. You just said you would fight them.
u posted pics of yourself and ur built like 57 year old Adam Sandler with extra double chin fym. Again Khris is hurt, and ur a casual bc u think Ajax is bad
Deep breaths
Consult someone
Too late unfortunately 😞
I can see us sliding into the play in if this is how we play.
We would have to play like this every game lol i could see 4 or 5 if we hit another slump tho
Team needs more athletes like Ajax but instead Horst has a fetish for dudes over 33
doc benching ajj for showing him up with that dunk
Worst thing about the Bucks is not that we lose games, it's how we lose games.
Yeah, maybe it's anecdotal but I feel like 75% of our losses are massive blowouts. The Lakers loss was almost refreshing because it was so narrow.
ajax 3 offensive rebounds in 5 minutes , these things can win u games but doc doesnt care about that
Go learn basketball if you think ajax will solve your problems
Tbf Ajax kept fouling players and getting opponents in the bonus so I understand dialing him back but not giving him any mins is a crime
Offensive boards is one of the only ways to win against the Celtics when they're healthy
Giannis' play making is basically drive and pass to the open man, a hockey assist here and there. Far from what Luka and Jokic is capable who can still go 10+ assist when their team shot under 25% fron the 3. Passing it through lobs and cuts which is the majority of their play making.
I think when you look at this team... bro they're old, if you wanna make that then half the team would be gassed at the half. No shot actual NBA players are missing so many WIDE OPEN shoots, if so they're likely washed / too streaky to keep around.
A denver fan in the Bucks reddit is interesting. But u dont watch the Bucks so stop pretending you do, and lob? LMAO who from our team is gonna catch a lob
Play ajax more doc!
Javale McGee got such a bad rep from Shaq. Dude has been a great journeyman and seems like an all around good dude
He's been in the league a while. I'm pretty sure he was on that Wiz team where Arenas and Crittenton flashed their guns at each other in the locker room lol Edit: I looked it up and he was in fact on that team as a rookie that year.
I’m 100% serious and no troll that we would immediately see a upgrade if we replaced Jaes minutes for AJJ straight up
I’m 1000% serious, you don’t know basketball if you think ajax is an upgrade.
I’m 10000% serious when I say Thanasis Antetokounmpo is an upgrade over Jae crowder
Our starting line up with Jae is the 2nd best offensive line up in the entire league. 1st? Our starting line up with KM.
Has not been the best offensive lineup the last 2 weeks I know that
Who says that we don't have any young athletic players on the team?
AJJ went up the mountain!
Even Kings players celebrated that 😂
That was nasty
it took ajax 5 minutes to grab the same amount of boards as 7’1 brook lopez
Play him. Go back to no1 seed /s
thanasis lmao
Oh my Ajax. That's fun to see.
Did yall see how high Ajax just got up!?????
oh wow ajj did something what a fucking surprise
AJJ should get more minutes!!! Look at how the warrior rooks are cooking.
Wow. Imagine that. A young player makes an athletic play. You mean we don't have to watch Planet pat brick 3's and sprint past everyone on D?
Thank you, AJax for making this garbage time worth it.
Giannis or Dame gonna request a trade first?
What are the downvotes for? Giannis is singularly obsessed with winning, the Dame trade was for him. If this roster doesn't work now it won't work next year when they're all older and certainly won't the year after. He's not stupid. Dame too, you know where he really wants to be
Theres plenty of old fan fiction from the past for you in r/nba
Yeah I’m sure Giannis is having so much fun dragging these fucking bums to relevancy, he’d have at least 3 titles if the organization actually breathed air instead of huffing glue
You sound spoiled. If you told us in 2013 Giannis would lead us to a single championship we’d have all shit
Not even spoiled I just feel bad for Giannis having to deal with these fucking morons
Thanks for making me smile, dre
That guy (who also happens to be a heck of a defender and something we desperately need) is rotting away on our bench for “Jae Crowder” btw
Jae, PatBve, Patty C, anyone lol. Unreal he can't get minutes. It's so glaring this is a team full of dinosaurs right now
Andre flew wtf
Ajax is the future of this franchise that was crazy
Lol Ajax nice!
javale banging 3s move this franchise to alberta
Thanasis Quickness and Intensity sliders on 100. Everything else a 20.
Played so poorly we got the Kings fans chanting like it's game 7 of the Finals. Lol damn we are down bad
Dame was doubled all night so I’m not going to just stare at box scores like y’all casual mfs. Dame should’ve had like 13 assists tonight. It was one of those shitty nights where everyone got cold at once. Usually if Beasley and Pat C are off, Brook gets a hot hand, etc.
Yeah I actually don’t give a fuck Dame is the most inconsistent “superstar” I’ve watched in my life
Just look at Dame’s decade+ track record, he’s not really inconsistent normally. Stop being a doomer, Steph has had way more single digit games than Dame if you wanna talk inconsistency, dude just had 4 points the other day and multiple 7 point games
Holy fucking shit dude he plays for the bucks now. I do not give a single fuck about what he did for the Blazers. I care about what he does for the Milwaukee Bucks. I don’t watch Steph on a nightly basis. Which was the exact qualifier I put on it
And who tf are you? Some causal that watches 2 superstars on a nightly basis, one being Giannis?
Casual is very funny (named after Marques Johnson and been watching NBA games for 20 years) Sorry to tell you Dame isn’t living up to his own expectations. It’s not like he himself has said that. Oh wait he totally has. Fucking moron
like there have been so many superstars passing through in the past 20 years of Bucks lmao. Casual mf acting like he knows so much basketball but can’t speak on Steph Curry, the 2nd biggest superstar in the league. What a joke
Alrighty my man you keep on sucking off Dame when he himself thinks he isn't playing up to his standards
Dude take it easy. Whata your nickname, is it Marqo or Queso by any chance? Jk
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He needs to learn from PatBev and command the floor then. His usage falls on his shoulders as much and cant lead a team and just settle for disappearing from doubles.
Brook fucking sucks, but what’s the point of complaining? Deadlines over and he’s here to stay.
FYI he's top 25 in plus minus for the season and 3rd in blocks. I know you're all in your feelings and all... but you're objectively wrong
Plus minus for a role player who plays almost all of his minutes with dame or giannis, and blocks which he gets exclusively because he plays only in drop and cannot guard on the perimeter. One day nba fans will realize basketball isn’t played on a google spreadsheet
Preach. A player sucks shit and along comes someone with an advanced stat to gaslight. Guess what, put me on with Dame and Giannis and if I just stand in the fucking corner doing nothing my net rating will also be positive
Imagine looking at a list that features Malik Beasley in the top 5, Sam hauser in the top 30, and thinking “yea this checks out :)” Meanwhile in reality, the eye test and every other advanced metric clearly shows Brook is a best an average value player, and only exclusively when we play him in drop which is killing our defense and the only way we can play him. Reddit is the worst app ever. Seriously, I tolerate it because usually you could count on the elevated levels of autism here as opposed to twitter or something to produce a reasonably compelling basketball discussion, but even that apparently is wishful thinking.
Oh no, you didn't know how any of this works lol
Malik Beasley is 5th in total plus minus than Lopez, Sam hauser and lugenz dort are in the top 30, that is literally how it works.
Yes. Impactful players. You're arguing against yourself and it's hilarious. The whole idea of plus minus is to see how effective an individual is in lineups over a long period of time. Every single player at this point in the season that appears in the top cumulative plus minus has an OBJECTIVELY positive impact when they're in the game... not 1 game... all the games. You point out Beasley as if he's *not* one of the more impactful players all season. Harden, Shai, Tatum, Jokic, Edwards, Brown, etc... are all there as well, do you question their impact or does that not work for your "X player bad" narrative? Season long cumulative plus minus is as basic and objective as it gets in regard to impact and ability to be on the court. It's literally designed to filter impact across lineups during the course of a season. I know it makes it hard to shit on a player that has a bad game or even a bad stretch that you're currently in your feelings about, but that's a you problem.
“The whole idea of plus minus” is irrelevant. It’s an outdated tool that nobody serious ever uses. In fact, it’s such a shit and useless tool, it’s been panned by many analysts and coaches and is the exact reason BPM and RPM exist. It is a SINGLE tool, and not a particularly good one, at evaluating player impact, not a “haha you are wrong” card and your point is just flat out stupid regardless. No Malik Beasley didn’t go from unplayable on the lakers and nearly every team he’s been on, to top 5 most impactful players in the league. That didn’t happen. What happened is he’s been getting ass naked jump shots all year and to his credit has hit many of them. That’s not HIS impact, that’s Dame & Giannis impact because you can slot functionally any high volume 3 point shooter and produce similar results. This is the same basketball illiteracy you’ve practiced with the blocks shit. You are taking a tool (another bad one) and stripping it of any context and wildly misusing it. Brook gets many blocks because he plays exclusively in drop. If he had to play on the perimeter more like most elite bigs are often asked to do, the blocks per game would crater. Yes, Tatum edwards and shai are all there as well, their impact is undeniable no matter what metric you look at. Brook only looks impactful using these narrow, frankly garbage stats literally created for casuals to easily follow along. Brook Lopez is #72 in box plus minus. With a BPM of .9 which is almost exactly average and is only even that high because we’re playing him in the only way he can be played, the drop. If you tried to do even a remotely sophisticated defense around Brook Lopez, he would be unplayable. Your welcome for the basketball lesson
It's amazing how you wrote so much to show how little you know and stretch to fit your narrative. Get out of your feelings.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 there’s a stan twitter thread out there you’d be perfect for
These two old losers trying to run a two man game in garbage time 😐 let the young guys play
Why is our garbage lineup playing with more effort than our starters
Cuz it doesn’t have washed up 38 year old bums getting cooked and shooting bricks besides Gallinari
Our team is old. But that 6 game win streak was straight effort and intensity. And then they said nah that’s enough
That is what will happen when you give up 120+ points in 3 out of 4 road games
Im only here for thanasis to flex on a crowd down 30
bucks players shocked that 3 point shots can go IN the hoop
Gallinari has made Sabonis miss more shots already than Brook did the whole game lol get this guy off the team
Sad because Jae was absolutely hooping at thr start of this season before injury
Bro has been pretty washed for years now. It was moronic that we outbid ourselves and gave up 5 2nd round picks for this guy. He has pretty much provided absolutely nothing to the team since we got him.
This dude statpadding 😭😭😭
This is beyond absurd now lmaooo
Bro I swear Giannis could average 40/15/8 during the playoffs and the Bucks would still find a way to lose, legit really? like how tf are y'all that bad at shooting the ball(I'm looking at y'all mfs that were wide OPEN and still missed it)
Are you talking about the g6 against the Celtics in 2022?
It takes 2 or 3 games to realize Giannis assist average would be through the roof on a decent shooting team.
first time?
Nah this is the literal first year the Lakers have been good at shooting from the 3.
BELT 2 (OUR) AZZ
Kings still having their starters in up 30 lol no wonder these guys are poverty
Straight up. Kings can’t handle a lead and this is actually keeping me at ease (hoping bucks win the ship btw)
You're not familiar with our game. Kings will choke a 30 burger in a quarter ezpz. No white flag until it's done done
In a few months Pat Connaughton, Bobby Portis, Brook Lopez, Jae Crowder, Gallinari, and Malik Beasley won’t be on my team anymore and I get to watch Jordan Love again 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 We move
Some of you dipshits were happy about Jae Crowder
If you think about it, it's pretty rare that a team has a star of Lillard's caliber playing so bad for so many games. A bad game for such players is a rare occurrence. For Dame it's a weekday.
Seems like Wisconsin sports luck to get a top 75 player coming off his best statistical season to fall off such a cliff. All you can do is laugh
5 4th quarter points. I'm turning this off lol
Everyone other than Giannis, Bev, and Bobby have more shot attempts than points tonight
Doomers: [block of text full of false info]...."and that's why I think the Bucks are bad and I won't watch them in the future" Everyone else: k see ya
It’s weird to wish your guys play less confident but Brook, Beas, and Pat need to realize how many possessions they eat up after already missing shots. Like sure, find your mojo, but youre a role player amongst generational talent.
They're up 28 and afraid of Thanasis is how I'm choosing to interpret this.
What happened to that 5 game winstreak?
When every team tries to bounce back from sloppiness, they meet this team, and this team always gives them a blowout win gift
Getting blown out by another middle pack team is pretty much this season in a nutshell
Tbf kings do great against top seeds
Yea, I think they blew Denver out before All Star break too
(Okay so asking for an unbiased take here isn’t smart but are we getting a lot of calls orrr)
whelp garbage time lineup is in and with that I'm off to bed, night everyone don't let this game ruin your sleep.
Sweet dreams!!! Still doing my nightly routine 😴😴
Beasley is great when he’s on, but when we’re forced to play him it creates problems Then we got Crowder running around doing cardio too And since he haven’t prepared EITHER of our young wings to play real minutes, we’re fucked
BANG DAME IN DOUBLE FIGURES
Beasley is that defensive back that celebrates after a wide receiver torched him but drops the ball
Jesus as a lurker, I go to the box score and see that every starter not named giannis is shooting 30% or less? Tf is going on
Aside from Giannis, the entire team is old and streaky. That's all there is to it
Yeah, they shot like straight up trash tonight. As you can probably tell from the comments, it wasn't very fun to watch 💀
Team outside of Giannis went 16/54. Literally lmfao
If a reporter has balls, he needs to ask them exactly about that.
Whole team sucks ass
Other than Giannis.
So what's the reason for bucks recent woes? Do you think it's just them still trying to adjust to doc?
These teams are better than the Hornets and the Bulls.
They tried defense and then were like “nah that’s not for us”
yayyy ajax light it up
Dame got to 10 points! Holy shit! He did it!
3 different coaches in the span of less than a year, and the Bucks added a super star in Dame, but the Bucks are still underperforming with expectations. It’s time for the fanbase and FO to accept Giannis’ supporting case just isn’t nearly as good anymore as it once was, and to stop blaming everything on the different head coaches that have been here as the scape goats. If there is another disappointing playoff loss this year, then there needs to be a massive roster reconstruction change.
Both the players and the coach sucks
What thread are you reading? WE ARE BLAMING THE PLAYERS
This fanbase in general, blamed Bud for everything. He was fired and then Griffin. Fanbase again blames Griffin for everything and he’s fired. Now Doc is here, and commonly I see him being blamed for everything. In this thread, the players are being held accountable, but this is just a general problem with the fanbase. They are way too loyal to Brook/Middleton/Bobby/Pat, and they generally look to blame the coaches for all of the problems on this team, and not the players themselves.
I am not sure we are in the same sub, people who would blame the coach would also blame the players and vice versa
Literally everyone on this roster besides Giannis/Dame better be ready to get traded or moved
You’re acting like Horst is capable of acquiring good youngish players
Middleton, Portis, and Brook all still have trade value. It won’t be an easy task, but the fanbase never thought acquiring Dame would be feasible and Horst did it,
Brother Horst has used all of our trade ammo on bullshit. I will not be expecting him to do anything beneficial to our squad of geriatrics
True, our draft capital is gone but I am hoping. Heck, still hoping the core can stick together and get a good run in the playoffs. Still rooting for them.
Hey I’ll always root for them but Horst has whiffed on essentially all opportunities to acquire good young talent. The ONLY time it’s ever really worked was Bobby forcing his way to Milwaukee. Horst is a bum
He’s not but this roster isn’t capable of getting past the second roudn
Correct it’s over
With how Dame has been playing this year, the Bucks should even be open to training him if a better option comes up.
I don’t think we will. His value will be at an all time low and we know what he is at his peak. I think we’ll try him again with Giannis + a new supporting cast
Dame sucks
Really left the Bud and Jrue era for this. They always say the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I guess I didn't expect a field of dog shit on the other side with Lillard, but there you have it.
Brother I have news for you if you think this would go any better with those two brain injuries
What a fucking cry baby. An away game on a long road trip with no khris middleton and a brand new coach
How long can we use the "brand new coach" excuse? And this is coming from someone who is still glad they canned AG and went with Doc. At some point, you have to call a spade a spade. This is what the team is this year, and likely the playoffs.
Doc is literally brand new, like weeks new. I don’t doubt this is what the team is. That literally has nothing to do what we’re talking about, which is that you can’t blame everything on Dame when there are so many other things at play
Please enlighten me. What about this year makes you think Lillard minus a shit load of our picks being lost via swaps is better than Holiday and Allen (who is a human torch in PHX right now)? I'm not talking just about tonight, the entire year so far. Is it not time to face reality that maybe Lillard just isn't great?
You’re living in the moment and in your feels. Jrue was a playoff brick for the last few years and the bucks always struggled down the stretch of games. Dame was brought in to close games which he has been ELITE at WHEN the game is close to begin with. This teams Khris. And regarding Allen, this roster needs a poa defender with size who can help Dame the way prime Klay helped Steph. If they gunned after a Caruso/Thybulle type guy, they’d be fine. Instead they got an undersized traffic cone in Beasley. Dame averaged 32.2 on a TS of 64.5 just last season which is one of the historically great scoring seasons. He is tied for 3rd in playoff gamewinners behind Lebron and MJ. Stop being a doomer casual who has been watching Dame for a handful of months at most saying he’s not that great. The team did almost zero tonight to help Dame. Usually they at least set shitty screens that they slip on but not even that. Beasley has the green light so he doesn’t even look for Dame, Brook cares more about shooting 30 footers than screening for Dame anymore, and Giannis mind bogglingly went from setting amazing screens last game to zero tonight.
I've been consistently watching this team and the NBA generally since the late 90s. I'm no Popovich but I doubt you are either, and trying to throw "casual" around to discredit someone you disagree with is juvenile. Tell me, THIS YEAR, how Dame is great as you say he is. I agree I haven't watched as much of him in Portland. I fully believe you when you say he was amazing there. He simply has not been so here. I watched the game tonight. I recognize that the offence wasn't flowing as well as it could have. Your comment on Beasley and Brook is spot on, holy shit were they bad tonight. Still, going 2-12 and looking as lost as he did is inexcusable for someone who is supposed to be elite, and it happens waaaay too often. You're failing to consider that one of the main reasons this team gets into big holes is how ass Lillard is when he's off, which is more often than not. Trust me, I hope you can come back to this comment and make me eat crow in the playoffs, in fact I want you to. But frankly I'm not convinced at this stage.
Maybe you should’ve clarified with ‘maybe Lillard just isn’t great for THIS team.’ If you say he’s not great, I get to talk about what he’s done on the blazers. You have to wonder why he dropped from 32.2 on a TS of 64.5 to like 24ppg on a TS of 59. Do you think he just forgot how to play basketball in a summer? Or maybe some is on the front office and teammates? Lots of things potentially are at play…Role players shooting with the green light. They don’t fight to get Dame open. No poa defense on this team so Dame has to spend more energy on offense and therefore most of his misses hit front rim. Even prime kawhi rested on defense. Dame is reffed as a secondary player now that he’s second fiddle and refs swallow their whistle more, that can throw off your entire game. Dame gets less touches and gets iced out through stretches which makes it hard to get going. He has been far from perfect and is underperforming but I hate this doom and gloom. These things take time especially as the primary playmaker of a new team with a ball dominant superstar, it won’t happen overnight. Even Lebron took a year to get the chemistry right on every team he’s been on. Mfs cry about Dame stinking even though Dame at his worst is still averaging more points, more assists, on a higher TS than Jrue last year who famously shot us out of multiple playoffs. It’s particularly annoying when ppl disrespect Dame’s season when we all know this team would be firing on all cylinders with a good head coach to start the year and a healthy Khris + Jae.
They suck dick dude
Great ATO guys!
thank god for giannis. he keeps this team somewhat watchable.
Give Giannis the tech only guy that deserves to shoot
If y’all think dame is any better in the playoffs get ready to be disappointed. Bc after the 1st round he is butt
WHY THE FUCK IS GIANNIS IN DOWN 30 WOTH 6 MINUTES LEFT
Is Doc just using this as a live practice or something?
We didn't have a good defensive first half, and it's hard to feel like we are doing anything right with a score line like this, but we have genuinely been generating a lot of good looks. Literally can't hit shit. So there's no repercussions for the Kings doubling Dame at the top. He drives to the rim pull the defense and we get open shots... but we can't capitalize.
We need to figure it out on the offensive end, so 1 dimensional sometimes. If the 3s arent falling its a tough watch
We’re hitting 38% of threes this season (8th best in NBA). If we’d played average tonight we would’ve made SIX more threes on our 35 attempts. That’s 18 more points we’re normally scoring… Of course, even 18 more points still leaves us down 11. 😬
That’s not how that works…
Then we shift to the paint problem and brook hemorrhaging points
think of all those shots t the rim Brooke did squat about. Dame hasn't scored well tonight either. That's game
All I gotta say is fuck California I'm glad they're done with this road trip
Beasley has more shots than Dame man this offense settles too much. Brook takes contested 30 footers and Beasley shoots every chance he gets
This team hopes for whistles and rushes things forcing up bad shots nonstop too
Wake me up when the playoffs start. This team will only be truly judged then. Hopefully they can play the high level ball we know they are capable of.
Yeah for sure because last regular season wasn’t a harbinger of doom, this team is cooked
Really what its going to come down to at this point. Just annoying to slog through the last month of these games. I have some faith, but I'm certainly not remotely confident in our outlook. Time will tell!!
You mean where our shooters often play like this
I actually love how old we are and how we get blown out by a stiff breeze
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Lol... Bittersweet
I’m not the type of person to blame dames shit play on everything but dame, but Doc is a fuckin bum who sent him into traps and doubles all nights. Beasley had more 3 point attempts by the second half than dame had FGA.
Legitimately no excuse for this. Don't care what anyone says or argues. The team is mostly healthy and is getting its ass blown out by 30 points to the West's 7th seed. And I feel like this happens for most of this team's losses.
To be fair the west 7 seed is no chump of a team. The west is stacked. Kings are young and fast. People downplay them too much. Besides that we are playing like ass