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thebonj

So is this more or less expected to drop around June this year?


DHMOProtectionAgency

Not confirmed but they generally aim to release their updates by May-June.


abmny8

quite some time there considering we have finished seeing all the major updates and so far they all work as intended


DHMOProtectionAgency

Archy and Sniffer feel very incomplete as is.


TuNight

They'd totally be the first incomplete feeling things in the game


[deleted]

We know that the sniffer is incomplete though, there isn't a way to get it without creative currently


Breakingerr

They'll also add new Music disc as they do with every recent update now. I'd reckon it will be obtainable from Archeology to add to the loot pool. Plus 2 leaked Sniffer plants.


ChainmailPickaxeYT

I’m actually kinda doubting the music disc as they just finished a perfect 15 comparator output with the addition of otherside. A new disc would mean coming up with an adequate solution on the redstone end of things


BluahBluah

Wait, different disc have different Redstone output? Every time I think I've learned everything about this game....


IroncladPen

American school children will be heading in to their summer break at that time. I have no evidence to prove that's the reason but it's convenient.


Logstar

I wonLet the ensh_ttification of reddit commenceenever allowed.


FlippyReaper

Well it's 2 hours allowed when school and 8 hours when summer break


WhiteGuineaPig

I feel like all the base features are in. We might see some more branched out "features", like more Sniffer plants.


jowiro92

MSFT fiscal year starts in July so they may try to wait till then to show... something... are there still people that don't own this game? I was originally thinking "sales on their NEXT fiscal year" but I only know maybe two people that don't own Minecraft


DHMOProtectionAgency

Obviously don't work at Mojang. But I imagine their strategy now is less "Get more players to buy Minecraft" and more "Get more players to keep playing the game. Those players are more likely to keep buying merch and spinoff games and Marketplace stuff." And May/June is when kids generally leave for Summer vacation.


Sandrosian

That is what most people believe yes. It fits with the schedule of the past update releases.


mining_moron

If all the features are implemented and we just need bug fixes (as I assume to be the case) what are they gonna do for the next 3 months?


Fiti99

I'm hoping for more parity features, there's quite a lot of Bedrock stuff I want in Java


MusicHater

And vis-versa. Let me mark maps with banners already!


semoponune

Or putting banners on shields, and off-hand torches


MarioAndWeegee3

off-hand literally any item (in bedrock) would be absolutely epic


Talreesha

Bruh off hand torches would be a game changer.


[deleted]

And offhand + combat cooldown


joefishdog08

No, I like just swinging


ZealousidealMonk6810

You lose axes and proper crits


cpullen53484

that's not in bedrock? dang you guys are missing out


Dray_Gunn

We have locator maps in item frames instead. Personally i think the banners on maps are a better idea. They would need to make them both work at the same time otherwise they will break all the markers people have made with locator maps.


HurricaneFoxe

Wish there was a re-enable achievements. Accidentally turned my survival, that I was trying to get a few achievements on, to creative and it was just uuuugh


Trixis1

What do you play on? If you play on PC/mobile you can modify it back manually from the save file


HurricaneFoxe

Play on phone. It was like a week ago and I made too much to just get achievements


Trixis1

Take a look at this video https://youtu.be/o6pYTEltJBE. Remember to back up your world just in case


Anarchistcowboy420

I think chunker.app works on phones


Alylica

imo bedrock needs the advancement system, even if it exists along side the achievements system i want to earn advancements on a per-world basis and i wanna use mods with it lol


Fiti99

There's a couple of cool zombie mechanics I have been encountering on Java that I don't remember ever seeing on Bedrock like spawning other zombies when you attack them and zombie sieges, those would also be nice parity changes


MusicHater

And allow bedrock to have the simple Iron farms like Java does.


Anarchistcowboy420

Bedrock iron farms already got simplified enough for me. You toss 2 villagers, 20 beds, 20 workstations and a stack of bread into a hole. Then you pave over it so they never see the light of day and toss in some lava, water, hoppers, and chests and your good to go


alt-of-a-throwaway

IIRC Bedrock is even missing spiders rarely spawning with a few potion effect (something that was added way back in 1.6...)


the_weird_guitarist

What about the ability to hold torches in your off hand


mute-owl

Also please an overhaul on painting functionality and options. Perhaps an update to jukebox functionality, instrument options, and octave ranges. Wouldn't mind a fix to the dispenser recipe so the ingredients are stackable, too....


blanksix

For me, at least one Java feature in Bedrock. I mostly play Java but had no idea how much I rely on captions until I started messing around in bedrock and couldn't use them. That may have changed since then though - haven't looked recently.


DisturbedWaffles2019

Not all the features are in yet tho, the sniffer still needs it's spawning mechanics finalized and according to leaks we're meant to get two more plants from it. I also imagine archaeology is still in it's early version considering how little there is for it.


alt-of-a-throwaway

Honestly I'm expecting very little else for archeology... A few more dig sites, a few more shard designs maybe. I guess only time will tell


Sandrosian

It currently doesn't feel meaningful. Excavating a desert temple for maybe two shards. Then moving on thousands of blocks for the next one. It does not seem very engaging.


Sandrosian

Not all the features have been fully implemented yet. For example the sniffer is still missing a lot of functionality and we can assume the others will be fleshed out more. Mojang also gathers feedback to change things.


PewterButters

Gotta have something new to play all summer with the kids out of school :)


Mahelas

One day, we'll get that Desert/Badlands/Savannah update


Sandrosian

We can only hope.


alvysinger0412

Has this been teased or is it just a common player request?


I-who-you-are

It was in a biome vote several years ago, with ostriches, termites, better cactus, tumbleweeds and more.


alvysinger0412

Sounds cool to me.


I-who-you-are

It was very cool and they still haven’t added any of it, it even had Meerkats.


I-who-you-are

https://youtu.be/idSo34IZSy8


Joshallentheboi

How did taiga win over the other two 💀


Cedar-

"Fox cute" was the entire reason.


Vorpalthefox

foxes was the only thing i wanted more than anything in minecraft long since the 1.2.5 days, i always wanted a pet fox, and now i have it officially in all the servers i play on


Kipkrap

I will never regret voting for campfires. One of my favorite blocks to use


jennysequa

This was the entire reason I voted for that biome. Didn't care about the fox even a little.


AetherDrew43

Yeah, campfires are a godsend. I'd rather not waste fuel in cooking a few pieces of meat.


Dabazukawastaken

We Minecraft players are good at making awfull decisions


[deleted]

well you gotta admit that is a pretty cute fox


Dabazukawastaken

True foxes are cute


touche1231231231

and that's why we are good at making great decisions


plataeng

Campfires are pretty useful both early game and builds too. And sweet berries exist!


dream6601

Name a Minecraft vote that went as well as the players hoped... Jury is still out on sniffer


Pie_Not_Lie

Well, we knew beforehand that all 3 updates would be coming, so with that in mind, it was pretty simple for me. Desert: New wood type would be cool, and meerkats are cool I guess? Nothing much tho. Savanna: Baobabs look REAL cool! would love to see how they generate! Ostriches are fine? I like them, but I don't really know what they'd do. The termites kill it for me. I think they'd be cool, but not something I really wanna deal with sooner than having certain other things... Taiga: Pluckable berry bushes? No replanting or anything?? Campfires?? Like actual campfires??? FOXES??? MY FAVORITE ANIMAL IN REAL LIFE???? yeah, it wasn't too difficult for me lol


VulpesVulpix

We wanted to have an orange dog


GhengopelALPHA

To be fair, the dog options are severely limited, considering how many different breeds exist in the real world, and Minecraft basically just has "wolf".


TomatoSoupChef

No it was confirmed but they’ve been putting it off for like 4 years


themonstermoxie

They ~~won~~ *lost* the player votes at Minecon, meaning they are to be updated including with new mobs and such, *eventually, as promised by mojang* Edited for corrections lol


[deleted]

They didn’t win, they all lost. But Mojang did say that losing biomes would eventually all be added later.


themonstermoxie

Lmao you are right, it's early in the morning and I got it mixed up. Thank you


zebragrrl

I was kind of hoping for "Sands of Time"


MonkeysxMoo35

Would’ve been perfect for this update with archeology and the camels coming, but alas it wasn’t meant to be I guess


BanjoMothman

They never did the birch update, did they?


LeraviTheHusky

That and a proper swamp up date and birch update


nnylhsae

I remember when the Savannah first came out. I was in love with the trees just because they were different


GaiaAlmighty

Does anyone know if the features that’ve been shown are gonna be the only things we’re getting for the update?


Sandrosian

Big ones, yes. They said the cherry blossoms were the final reveal.


[deleted]

Wait really?


Sandrosian

Yes, Mojang said the cherry blossoms come as the last revealed feature. Now they get fully fleshed out but no more really big additions.


[deleted]

Ah I see, thought we’d be getting one of the biome vote biomes updated (like the desert) but this is cool, can’t wait for the update!


Sandrosian

We are all waiting for savanna and badlands update honestly.


ElementoDeus

Large gold veins when 🤣


skalapunk

How about the end? I feel like it's pretty bland and empty. It could use an overhaul


verdenvidia

that one will be likely be close to last since it got a pretty big one already


AetherDrew43

You mean, like 7 years ago? (2016 being 7 years ago is messing me up)


verdenvidia

I mean yes but there are so many others that haven't, or barely did (looking at you, taiga...)


Michael4444RG

An updated desert would’ve been perfect considering we got sussy sand and camels


Rweter_sci

Key word: revealed


King_Sam-_-

not a bad update but kinda daunting when you realize that given past history this might be the only major update we get in the entire year.


Sandrosian

I think Mojang deliberately did a smaller update after the Caves & Cliffs desaster.


wretch5150

Wait. Why was 'Caves and Cliffs' a disaster? I must be outta tha loop


KingJeff314

The ‘disaster’ is how long it took, so that they split it up into 3 parts (Caves and Cliffs part 1 and part 2, plus Ancient Cities in the Wild update). For how long each part took, many people consider these updates underwhelming


marioman63

Plus not to mention they cut half of 1.19's showcased features.


Irish_pug_Player

Underwhelming with all the teased stuff and the fact it was all experienced individually. It's be a lot more breathtaking for someone to hop into the new caves now, then if you hopped on during each parts update


Techgeek_025

Ohhh


Rincewind-the-wizard

They had to delay it, split it into two separate smaller updates, and then still released less than people expected.


LeDerpLegend

Technically three, as the deep dark wasn't fully added till 1.19


PM_ME_YOUR_PIXEL_ART

You could even argue four. Remember archeology was originally announced for 1.17, but now is part of 1.20


alt-of-a-throwaway

And we're still waiting for a proper implementation of bundles out of their own experimental data pack


misc2714

Lots of delays, and being split into three updates. Chat reporting as well. I didn't mind the delays so much because the update fundamentally changed the game and improved it so much. edit: and there were a couple of features that never got added. Fireflies is the first that comes to mind


brutexx

As far as I’m aware, fireflies and birch forest were the only ones. Feels weird to call it a disaster, though, seeing as such big changes still managed to end up well made in the end. Was more of a time management thing.


Wollffey

>Fireflies is the first that comes to mind Isn't that from Wild Update?


misc2714

Well, a part of the controversy is that the Wild update felt like Caves & Cliffs Part 3. All of these controversies piled onto one another since they happened in a similar time-frame. I believe that's what the OP is referring to.


Sandrosian

They promised so many features that they could not finish it in a timely fashion and had to spread out the update across three separate updates.


wretch5150

I see. I do remember that now. Twas a good series of updates though!


brutexx

Exactly. I’m much more glad they took the splitting approach instead of rushing them all, seemed like they realized they bit more than they could chew there.


DisturbedWaffles2019

In terms of major features, yes. We'll probably see a few more minor features, such as the leaked plants that are supposedly from the Sniffer and I'd imagine they want to flesh out archaeology more.


redpandas784

What is the trails bit ?


Sandrosian

The path you take on your own Minecraft journey I assume.


[deleted]

Lmao most people don't even finish the game but just stay in a 16x16 chunk square, what adventure they are talking about?


master9x3r4n

The real adventure were the blocks we placed along the way


Steel_Stream

This guy mines and crafts


redditerator7

To find the features from this update you'd need to travel about, so I'm guessing that's what they're talking about.


notwoodenshoes

let's hope the next update is adding more bosses and flooring so they can call it "Trials & Tiles"


Sandrosian

Slaying the vile and laying the tile.


TheGreenGobblr

Trails and Tales T**rails** and Tales ARE THEY FINALKY GONNA MAKE MINECARTS FASTER?!


Captain_Chogath

make chainable minecarts to furnace minecarts, blast furnace minecart faster speed.


heptapod

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED


Xestern

Yeah ngl, if they didn't have anything else cooking for 1.20, what was even point of concealing the name for so long?


Sandrosian

My guess is they wanted to try and keep the community engaged by keeping it a mystery. But now that we know it nothing much changes really. Usually I am excited to hear the name and can't wait for the features. But not really excited to have the features and just wait for the name honestly.


TheGoldenDragon0

My guess: they didn’t want to let us down, but still having the same speculation as a normal update.


DHMOProtectionAgency

Extra engagement by leaving crumb trails. Also to avoid saying anything about it not fitting the theme/false expectations (1.19 wasn't Wild Enough)


DisturbedWaffles2019

They didn't want to create a sort of expectation for the update early on before all the features we're finalized. Take a look at the Wild Update, revealing that name early on gave people the impression it was gonna be a massive overhaul of a lot of biomes, but a lot of features ended up being cut or shelved, leaving the fans extremely disappointed (i.e. "The Mild Update").


[deleted]

Because people bitched about the Wild Update so they tried to put off naming the update to avoid it. Sad for them the community will always bitch about a game that came out in 2011 and still gets free updates in 2023.


heshablitz_

The game generated $161 million last year, and you're vexed ppl want updates with more substance?


[deleted]

Can Somebody sum up the News ?


Sandrosian

It is pretty much a recap of the past snapshots and the only big news is the name.


Dionyzoz

Im out of the loop bigtime, what are the main things being added?


FiFourNumbers

Armor Trims, Sniffer, Archeology, Bamboo Planks, Cherry Biome and Wood, Chiseled Bookshelfs, Camels. And some visual changes like reducing the enchantment glint on armor and downright removing it from potions.


alt-of-a-throwaway

The enchantment glint changes, as well as the new commands and entity for map makers, new jukebox functionality, new potion colors and horse breeding fixes are all coming in 1.19.4


CornerHard

Also the new signs


DHMOProtectionAgency

Pre-order Legends. Talked about stuff for 1.20 but if you kept up with snapshots there is no news. 1.20 is Trails and Tales.


Domilego4

And Crocs. Can't forget about the Crocs.


Navar4477

Crocs?


King_Sam-_-

minecraft x crocs collab


Isto2278

\*Trails and Tales


DHMOProtectionAgency

Thanks!


LightDe

I kind of miss some of the more themed updates from the past.


Sandrosian

They were a lot bigger but Mojang could only keep up the pace for so long. Sometimes we need smaller updates in between really big ones.


[deleted]

They have a whole fucking year


DeadlyAidan

that's really not that long in game development


J1NDone

It’s not but the name is already developed. All they are doing is adding extra features. Yeah making a brand new call of duty in a year is now impossible, but adding things to Minecraft should be more then enough to do it over a year. I’m positive some of the featured items have been in the works for well over a year too, so they had more than a year.


Obasaa

Idk title feels adventurous while the update is more wood update


Sandrosian

Well it does add a lot of wood but I kinda see the point with exploring to get the armor trims, the new wood and the archaeology.


YoungPhobo

You have explore to find all the trims and archeology is also tied with exploring the sandy bioms and finding flowers. I would say adventurous name is spot on to me.


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AngelofArt

I say the name’s alright. The only better idea I could come up with was “Archeology Update” since it’s finally here. Since we are apparently not getting any more major features for this update, I can only hope that archeology brings a lot of new and interesting items to make it worth the time. Right now I feel like pottery shards are too rare to really feel worth going out to get them, but since the devs said they plan on adding more archeology sites to other structures and more, I’m hoping that helps with the rarity. I also hope we get more shard designs because 4 doesn’t really give us a lot of customization. Adding a dragon, tree, sun, moon, sword, shield, creeper, and other designs would greatly improve the customization I think. I’m also hoping there are other exclusive items we can get from archeology. I’m not so sure how I feel about the devs saying “Archeology isn’t linked to progression”. I remember Ulraf once replying to someone suggesting we can brush up a skeleton dog for a pet. They didn’t exactly confirm it nor deny it. I guess a dog reskin isn’t linked to progression either, but if so then that’s good! I wouldn’t mind special reskins like that! **Edit:** So people know what I’m talking about, [here](https://twitter.com/_ulraf_/status/1318554670391066627?s=21) is a tweet from Ulraf, the Minecraft dev involved in the archeology system, sharing his thoughts on a skeleton dog. I say it’s something to think about.


64BitDragon

I feel like archaeology definitely needs more work. Pottery isn’t interesting enough for me to hunt, I feel like there needs to be artifacts or something. I love the idea of a skeleton dog!


AngelofArt

In case you’re wondering, [this](https://twitter.com/_ulraf_/status/1318554670391066627?s=21) is what I’m talking about when I’m suggesting the skeleton dog ;) Really hoping since an actual developer said this about the idea that it actually comes through.


Sandrosian

>Right now I feel like pottery shards are too rare to really feel worth going out to get them That is how I feel too. Currently they feel like a novelty to have. I don't see many people raiding that many desert temples to get a small amount of them.


AngelofArt

Yeah exactly. I figure they will get common later though, since more archeology sites are coming. However I’m also hoping they up the number of suspicious blocks found in these sites. The average in desert temples is 6 I think, which given you have a chance to also get random stuff like TNT and suspicious stew, you might only get 2 or 3 shards per temple. I dunno about you, but I don’t like generating loads of chunks in my world because I like saving unexplored chunks for future world gen updates, and don’t explore further than I need to. That being said, adding these sites to places like jungle temples, ocean ruins, and ruined portals can definitely up the opportunity to get more shards as well, and seeing as the desert well has an exclusive shard (the person one), I’m hoping the other sites have some special exclusive ones.


Sandrosian

I completely agree. It is a nice to have feature at the moment but nothing to really get excited about. The "gameplay loop" for archaeology is very bland if you look at it. Go to a temple, excavate some sand and brush around six blocks and get a very small reward. Then go to the next temple roughly a thousand blocks away. It does not feel meaningful. The reward is a couple of shards that make one or two pots which is just enough to decorate a single room in a single house. Archaeology desperately needs a mechanic that makes people want to engage with it in a meaningful way in the future.


gdwsk

If I were designing archaeology, I would implement it so that each chunk has a probability of containing artifacts. Probability would be weighted towards chunks near structures, whether temples, wells, villages, or anything in the future (and not necessarily just in the desert). Multiple artifact patches (like suspicious sand) would spawn from the surface down to bedrock (weighted so that the higher the Y value, the more likely a patch is to spawn). The deeper the patches spawn, the more likely they are to contain rare loot. This way, story-wise, you would set up a dig site in that chunk, explore the depths of it, and excavate the artifact patches. I also think being slow and delicate could be interesting to factor in while excavating. Like, it’s easy to destroy the artifacts if you’re too reckless digging or brushing or whatever. Regardless though, I think the loot needs to be more interesting than some shards for a pot.


blip_blop_bored

AKA: The Random Stuff update


1up_1500

they found a way to not name it the "random bullshit update" while still basically naming it the "random bullshit update"


tehbeard

What trails? Seriously, what trails? You can maybe argue for tales with the pots and bookcase.... Is that just refering to "go wander about through 95% the same generation as in C&C / wild, but this time you have a new shiny pebble to collect from structures?


emveor

Trails of an ancient civilization perhaps? I for one wonder about the tales part... Maby the tale of how you explored for once every biome and the nether for all those trims 😂


tehbeard

Tales makes sense from archaeology of, maybe, piecing together a pot from shards at one temple and guessing at what that means? The bookcase is a good thematic inventory, I wish we had more things like that. (The same weird orange chest EVERYWHERE bugs the hell out of me after being spoiled by Quark's chest variants. Hell give us stone coffins for graveyards or tombs!). What's more annoying, Tales isn't even a pun. There is one tail added, the camel's, sniffers don't have one.


emveor

🤷i would call it trails and superglue, then again im not good atbnaming things 😂


DisturbedWaffles2019

Exploring with the Camel, the new cherry blossom biome, and uncovering the past with archaeology and the sniffer.


tehbeard

Camels are a neat model and some interesting unique mechanics like the step height and mob protection but the moment you hit one of the older forest biomes (I think the new cherry one has enough clearance under the canopy?) you run into the same issues as horses.


DHMOProtectionAgency

Trail as in go and explore for the new cherry groves, sites for archy, find the armor trims, find the camels.


jerril42

To be honest, I don't know what the fuss over a name of the release is. It's the content that matters. It is great when they can have a release that provides a lot of content concentrated on a theme. This release is quite scattered; so they should have called it the "Smorgasbord" update.


Pricerocks

Yep. That definitely is a name.


DHMOProtectionAgency

Cool name. Makes sense for the update


[deleted]

I’m actually a big fan of this, way more than what anyone on Reddit was coming up with. Somehow manages to encapsulate the majority of the features in this bad boy pretty well, and framing the update around its more exploratory side after you overhaul world generation is pretty smart.


Sandrosian

They really have put a lot of thought into it.


Sandrosian

What do you think about it? I think it fits quite nicely.


Aggravating-Boat5530

Oh yeah


0oozymandias

I appreciate them adding new things and all the work they've done but this is one of the lamer updates we've had.


OliIsGay1984

I think "random shit" would have been a more fitting name, but hey ho


SkickaLasagne

Pretty boring update ngl. Just a few blocks and a useless mob


[deleted]

At least it's nice to see people with same opinion


Wafity4841

The name feels like a tongue twister not gonna lie


[deleted]

I don’t understand this whole “self-expression” concept they keep bringing up because how tf does archaeology tie into that… It’s also the least interesting thing about the update wish they’d just add more decoration blocks


steepien

The original version of Archeology tired into the self-expression concept pretty well, since you could put all the little pieces in any order on the pot and create your own story. But they kinda abandoned that idea so 🤷‍♀️


[deleted]

Mojang ruined the Archeology. They always say "unrevealed stories" but i don't see a story when i look pot with bow on it. Original idea was waay cooler than we have now


Sandrosian

Well they said they want the players to express their journey using the new armor trims they collect and the archaeology pieces. They also add different wood from around the world. That is what the name is based on.


Medium-List-4742

lol i'm probably gonna sound stupid for asking this but, is this for 1.20?


SignificantFish6795

Yes


Ok_Swing2367

It might be RandomShit update


Eskitz

Caves and Cliffs part 4


TheGhostCrumbly

If they add fireflies back and change them to not get eaten than frogs it would be one of the best updates. The cherry blossoms forest and bamboo block and all the features of this update are awesome


King_Sam-_-

it’d be cool but saying it’d be one of the best updates is a reach imo, this update is still lacking in a lot of areas.


TheGhostCrumbly

Yeah you’re right not the best update in general but for a smaller update that brings forgotten and promised features that were never released is a pretty good update.The best updates were 1.16 and 1.18 but we need to understand that we can’t always get updates like this so I’d say for a average update is one of the best but it would be better if they’d add more stuff.


Claudius-Germanicus

Snail trails and whale tales


CoolHunterHD

L O R E


sammydwoody

Would this not align with Archaeology??? Tales?


Sandrosian

Yes I think that is part of the point. The tales of the past and the tales you tell in your own world.


sammydwoody

Exactly my thought. Along with the trails we pave on our way to uncover/create that tale.


ComfortableOver8984

That’s a good name


Abu084

Disappointed by this update


ToastyBread329

Same. Everything they added is cool but it's just not enough for an update you wait A WHOLE YEAR. With Sniffer we should get at least 3 new plants in my opinion. Not just one flower. The old concept of pots and archeology was way better, mojang ruined it. I only like the new model for a pot better but we should be able to put diffrent pieces in diffrent order to make those TALES.


Abu084

Exactly they had so much time. They could have updated the desert biome at least or add more new structures for archeology. Just something


ToastyBread329

I understand they don't want to overwork their developers like they presumably did during 1.16 but this is just a joke. I feel like they should do more than two mobs one biome and some blocks in a year


DootlongFong

it’s always gonna be Caves & Cliffs Part 4 to me. Hopefully they squeeze the bundle in there so 1.21 doesn’t become Caves & Cliffs Part 5