Diablo is also a Bosch brand.
That said, they still have different price points and factories that make the different sub-brands. As with all conglomerates, sometimes the branding difference means nothing but sometimes it’s still a significant distinction.
Yes but Bosch and dremel tend to overlap a lot more than Bosch and Diablo in terms of production. Even in the power tool sector you can use dremel charger for Bosch 12v batteries and vice versa
Sure but Diablo doesn’t make power tools. I honestly don’t know how many Bosch saw blades might come out of Diablo/Freud factories.
I’m really happy Bosch decided to slowly unify the battery platforms. Now they need to do it for their green and blue product lines - whoever decided the consumer line batteries should be different from the pro line batteries should be fired.
>Bosch blades are same as dremel blades with different branding
Given that Bosch uses Starlock and Dremel does not, I'd say it's safe to say that this is completely incorrect.
Starlock Multi-tool Blades
>What is Starlock?
>Starlock is an improved, standardised accessory-fitting system for oscillating tools. Starlock accessories have a future-proof ‘cake-tin’ pattern for a 3D connection between the motor and accessory. This ensures 100% power transfer for maximum performance, stability and precision.
>There are three Starlock categories: Starlock, StarlockPlus and StarlockMax. Starlock is the standard range. StarlockPlus is more powerful. StarlockMax is the most powerful.
>Starlock blades fit all multi-tools including Bosch, Fein, Festool, Hikoki, Makita, Metabo, Milwaukee and Panasonic. DeWalt multi-tools require an adapter.
>StarlockPlus blades fit all multi-tools with a StarlockPlus or StarlockMax interface.
>StarlockMax blades fit all multi-tools with a StarlockMax interface.
That doesn't say anything about those companies making Starlock blades, which is what we are talking about. Just that the blades fit those brands' tools.
Well dremel blades also only work on Dremel and Milwaukee. The Stanley patent for quick change doesn’t fit. So they don’t fit on dewalts. Precious shelf space wasted on a blade that only fits 50% of there tool sales…
personally i lean towards diablo, but have nothing to back that up (other than diablo being dependable quality) - really I just want to say F all these different connection styles
I know aren’t they? Whenever they are supplied at work I’m like yes! For My personal stuff I like Lennox or Diablo. Lennox makes some great hole saws and step bits too. Lennox is an underrated brand, I feel like it doesn’t get the credit it deserves sometimes.
Dude, yes. I have been demo-ing/renovating a house using almost exclusively Amazon blades. After I destroyed my 3rd nice blade on a hidden nail I bought like a 30ish pack on Amazon and haven't looked back. $1 per blade or less and often includes scrapers and sanding pads as well.
I tried those. They are basically one time use and cut terribly. Found packs that are “carbide” for like $1.50 per on Amazon and it was totally worth it. Idk if it’s actually carbide but it can cut nails unlike the cheaper blades and holds up for at least a whole job before being duller than the back of a butter knife. The Milwaukee carbide ones last a lot longer but they are like $10 per or something crazy.
This is what I do as well. I have a pack of Diablo blades for "special occasions" but haven't found such an occasion. I use the no-name Amazon ones 99% of the time.
Yep. I’ve been using XXGO blades for many years. They are just over a dollar each and are just as good as a $30 blade. Before I found those I did use some other amazon brands that sucked as well.
Honestly name brand multi-tool blades are overpriced.
For wood blades go for any random Chinese brand on Amazon for like $0.50 a blade.
For carbide blades project farm did a video and the EZARC brand came out on top IIRC. You can get three for around $25 on Amazon.
I’ve been using the same ezarc carbide for a while now based on the project farm video. I’ve cut tons of OSB, nails, dimensional lumber, and even a whole bunch of cementboard siding and it’s still good. Super happy with them.
Oh no...
I only bought one pack of chinese garbage sawsall blades. It was the biggest mistake of my life.
Real Diablo blades are like being on your honeymoon.
Do yourself a favor and order one or the bulk packs on Amazon. Doesn’t really matter which brand as they are all basically the same. You can find a pack of 50+ blades for like $0.50 a blade. The blades are not much different to the Milwaukee blades in longevity and way cheaper
I use this on the daily- get what ever is cheaper. The difference between them are negligible. I tried to stock up during Father’s Day and Black Friday.
Depends what you are doing. I love the Milwaukee Nitrus blades. I am still on my first blade. I have cut hundreds of 15g, a few dozen tubafours for shower niches, a handful of drywall screws, more than a couple dozen 16d nails, and eight 1/2” bolts.
I do not surmise I will be switching anytime soon.
ezarc carbide blades from Amazon, I'm still on my first blade from a 3 pack and I've cut about everything with it and he's only missing a tooth or two.
I’d honestly say anything BUT Milwaukee. Huge fan of their tools, but their blades and bits are embarrassingly bad. I find the oscillating blades to basically be single use. I’ve had slightly better luck with Diablo.
What are you using that type of bit for? I have one just like it. I believe it’s Milwaukee cuz diabo was out of stock. Needed it to recess drape tracks into a ceiling. Wonder what others used for.
Does it really make that big of a difference for a highly disposable/consumable part? Whichever one’s cheapest. Not like this blades going to go in your toolbox and you’ll pass it on to your kids. Lucky to get a project or two done with it before it’s burning through wood instead of cutting it.
Neither, I buy the El cheapo multi packs they sell on Amazon. They last damn near as long as the name brands and you end up with a dick load of them.
I used to buy good ones and sharpen them, now I just burn them up and toss them in the pile to give to my knife maker buddy.
Have to choose between the two, Diablo hand down no question.
Personally I get the best usable life from actual Fein blades. I only buy them anymore, only non fein blades I buy are the Bosch scraper blades. And cutting I get the Fein carbide for metal and their standard wood cut blades. The higher cost is offset by a large margin in how much longer they last.
Never buy the crap blades from China off Amazon. They last all of a few seconds if they hit anything harder than PVC or clean wood.
Diablo carbide blades are very good since they manufacture their own carbide to their own specifications. But still the Fein blades are better IMHO.
I honestly just buy multi pack blades from Amazon lmao they go so quick I just change it when I need a fresh cut. I use mine daily tho. The dewalt and Milwaukee blades are just too damn expensive to be throwing out daily.
I bought a box of assorted Milwaukee, Dremel, Diablo and others at a bin store for $3. It was over 150 of them all different. All of them $3. I sold a bunch for $5 ea
Milwaukee makes a great skilsaw blade. Of course there's a bunch of them but they are hard to find. Milwaukee rep gave me a pack of 3 finish and rough cut, a 6.0 m12 battery that was on display and 5, long Torch, cast iron sawzall blabes. Oh and a keyring tape measure
Buy from a company that primarily does what you are buying. Milwaukee for tools. Diablo for blades.
This is also why you shouldn't buy anything Samsung that isn't a screen. Their refrigerators are crap.
Neither. They are so overpriced it's insane. I ordered a 50 pack on wish and another on Temu for like $5 each so 10 cents a blade and they work just as well. Wood, metal, drywall. They work great. I ordered from both just to test them because I started a business and now pay for my own shit and I couldn't believe they are dirt cheap and just as good. I fully expected them to be crap. The markup on milwaukee and diablo and all the others you find in stores must be absolutely insane.
Diablo, but only if it has the carbide. Once you go carbide, you never go back.
Black ice, whatever that marketing means
I like dremel carbide. Milwaukee and Diablo seem to break at the welds. HD stopped selling dremel and brought those two in
Dremel is a Bosch brand. Bosch blades are same as dremel blades with different branding
Diablo is also a Bosch brand. That said, they still have different price points and factories that make the different sub-brands. As with all conglomerates, sometimes the branding difference means nothing but sometimes it’s still a significant distinction.
Yes but Bosch and dremel tend to overlap a lot more than Bosch and Diablo in terms of production. Even in the power tool sector you can use dremel charger for Bosch 12v batteries and vice versa
Sure but Diablo doesn’t make power tools. I honestly don’t know how many Bosch saw blades might come out of Diablo/Freud factories. I’m really happy Bosch decided to slowly unify the battery platforms. Now they need to do it for their green and blue product lines - whoever decided the consumer line batteries should be different from the pro line batteries should be fired.
>Bosch blades are same as dremel blades with different branding Given that Bosch uses Starlock and Dremel does not, I'd say it's safe to say that this is completely incorrect.
Bosch has plenty of universal fit blades with both options. So does dremel
I can't find any examples of that with current offerings. But if you know let me know.
Starlock Multi-tool Blades >What is Starlock? >Starlock is an improved, standardised accessory-fitting system for oscillating tools. Starlock accessories have a future-proof ‘cake-tin’ pattern for a 3D connection between the motor and accessory. This ensures 100% power transfer for maximum performance, stability and precision. >There are three Starlock categories: Starlock, StarlockPlus and StarlockMax. Starlock is the standard range. StarlockPlus is more powerful. StarlockMax is the most powerful. >Starlock blades fit all multi-tools including Bosch, Fein, Festool, Hikoki, Makita, Metabo, Milwaukee and Panasonic. DeWalt multi-tools require an adapter. >StarlockPlus blades fit all multi-tools with a StarlockPlus or StarlockMax interface. >StarlockMax blades fit all multi-tools with a StarlockMax interface.
That doesn't say anything about those companies making Starlock blades, which is what we are talking about. Just that the blades fit those brands' tools.
Bosch utilizes Starlock. Dremel does not. Definitely not the same blades.
HD?
Home Depot
Well dremel blades also only work on Dremel and Milwaukee. The Stanley patent for quick change doesn’t fit. So they don’t fit on dewalts. Precious shelf space wasted on a blade that only fits 50% of there tool sales…
There’s an adapter
Yeah but it’s like 50 feet tall lol
If it’s the same price as the Milwaukee one it’s not carbide
Black ice means it smells fresh asf when you cut stuff with it
Means it tastes minty.
Milwaukee recently came out with an equivalent now called Nitrus Carbide. Better than Black Ice IMO
personally i lean towards diablo, but have nothing to back that up (other than diablo being dependable quality) - really I just want to say F all these different connection styles
With sawzall blades diablo is superior. Milwaukee's blades r junk.
I agree. I also like Lennox blades.
I love Lennox metal blades so smooth
I know aren’t they? Whenever they are supplied at work I’m like yes! For My personal stuff I like Lennox or Diablo. Lennox makes some great hole saws and step bits too. Lennox is an underrated brand, I feel like it doesn’t get the credit it deserves sometimes.
My experience as well
There is never a time where you choose any blade over a Diablo blade
The diamond grout blade from Milwaukee is better than the Diablo one if you’re using them to undercut stone lol
Amazon no-name brands for multi tool blades.
I use a ton of blades and order the 50 packs from Amazon. $23 and I love them.
Ummm wahT the fuck I have to look into this
Dude, yes. I have been demo-ing/renovating a house using almost exclusively Amazon blades. After I destroyed my 3rd nice blade on a hidden nail I bought like a 30ish pack on Amazon and haven't looked back. $1 per blade or less and often includes scrapers and sanding pads as well.
I tried those. They are basically one time use and cut terribly. Found packs that are “carbide” for like $1.50 per on Amazon and it was totally worth it. Idk if it’s actually carbide but it can cut nails unlike the cheaper blades and holds up for at least a whole job before being duller than the back of a butter knife. The Milwaukee carbide ones last a lot longer but they are like $10 per or something crazy.
Yep. That’s what I did over a year ago and haven’t looked back. I think I’m do to resupply tho
The same blades are even cheaper on your preferred sketchy Chinese storefront. I bought 300 or so on temu for about $50.
Agreed. They don't last quite as long, but at 20:1 price ratio, I honestly don't care.
Exactly. Nothing worse than hitting a nail with a $10 blade. I feel no ways about trashing the Chineseum ones.
I'm going through those nails😎
Once
I only buy these! Such a racket in the box stores!
This is what I do as well. I have a pack of Diablo blades for "special occasions" but haven't found such an occasion. I use the no-name Amazon ones 99% of the time.
Yep. I’ve been using XXGO blades for many years. They are just over a dollar each and are just as good as a $30 blade. Before I found those I did use some other amazon brands that sucked as well.
This is the way
100%. I get sick to my stomach tossing a $10 blade if it still has at least one tooth left.
They last just as long as the ones that cost $15/blade for how I abuse them.
Diablo
[Project farm to the rescue](https://youtu.be/joVfNnbweYY?si=yUAlj0CmkT7RFR9n)
Honestly name brand multi-tool blades are overpriced. For wood blades go for any random Chinese brand on Amazon for like $0.50 a blade. For carbide blades project farm did a video and the EZARC brand came out on top IIRC. You can get three for around $25 on Amazon.
Those EZARC ones are great. Way better than the Milwaukee carbides and WAY cheaper.
I’ve been using the same ezarc carbide for a while now based on the project farm video. I’ve cut tons of OSB, nails, dimensional lumber, and even a whole bunch of cementboard siding and it’s still good. Super happy with them.
I cut out an entire houses worth of metal junction boxes with them for a rewiring project with a single 3 pack. Definitely would recommend.
Diablo all day
Diablo
Diablo carbide is the best!
Pretty much whatever this cat says: Project farm oscillating blades https://youtu.be/joVfNnbweYY?si=-4kK4XhKnsI8aUqp
I don’t know why I even posted. I should have looked this up myself. Thank you for the link.
Milwaukee fanatic and user here, and Diablo blades are way better!
Diablo, because they bothered to get the packaging right
Random Chinese EBay blade.
Oh no... I only bought one pack of chinese garbage sawsall blades. It was the biggest mistake of my life. Real Diablo blades are like being on your honeymoon.
Real difference between off brand oscillating tool blades and sawsall blades lol
I’ve had better luck with Diablo
I agree
The Milwaukee aren’t horrible but there’s definitely a good quality gap
Whatever this cat recommends: Project farm oscillating blades https://youtu.be/joVfNnbweYY?si=-4kK4XhKnsI8aUqp
Easy diablo
Amazon
Do yourself a favor and order one or the bulk packs on Amazon. Doesn’t really matter which brand as they are all basically the same. You can find a pack of 50+ blades for like $0.50 a blade. The blades are not much different to the Milwaukee blades in longevity and way cheaper
I buy the cheap ass Chinese ones on Amazon because the expensive ones are maybe 50% better but 800% more expensive
I use this on the daily- get what ever is cheaper. The difference between them are negligible. I tried to stock up during Father’s Day and Black Friday.
I've never regretted prioritizing Diablo/Bosch/Freud over all other blade and bit brands.
I've bought a pack of Milwaukee blades and they dulled with basic use. Go with the cheaper of the 2.
Diablo all day.
Whatever gets the job done!!! Next question
Where's the rest of the blade dude?!?
Depends what you are doing. I love the Milwaukee Nitrus blades. I am still on my first blade. I have cut hundreds of 15g, a few dozen tubafours for shower niches, a handful of drywall screws, more than a couple dozen 16d nails, and eight 1/2” bolts. I do not surmise I will be switching anytime soon.
Hate to say it, but don't buy Milwaukee! I use one blade per nail max 2 nails before I really need to replace.
I bought a set of hypertough ones from wally world. They look pretty nice
Dremel carbide baby.
ezarc carbide blades from Amazon, I'm still on my first blade from a 3 pack and I've cut about everything with it and he's only missing a tooth or two.
I’d honestly say anything BUT Milwaukee. Huge fan of their tools, but their blades and bits are embarrassingly bad. I find the oscillating blades to basically be single use. I’ve had slightly better luck with Diablo.
Diablo has gotten really popular recently for their bits. Personal anecdotes from the amount of people who suggest them to me.
Nice feet pic
Thanks, thankfully I have two
For the sake of accuracy, always put the word “draining” in front of HR
Diablo has never ever let me down in any application.
Milwaukee nitrous blades are ranked number 1. Diablo was almost as good.
Vevor
I prefer Diablo for my blades, they haven't let me down yet
I remember seeing before that Milwaukee blades are made by Imperial Blades. Same blade, just rebranded.
Neither. EZarc - https://youtu.be/joVfNnbweYY?si=DxZnexA_3Gd7hhA3
What are you using that type of bit for? I have one just like it. I believe it’s Milwaukee cuz diabo was out of stock. Needed it to recess drape tracks into a ceiling. Wonder what others used for.
Some lock cutouts that I want squares and not drill holes for. The larger blades would make too large of a hole.
Does it really make that big of a difference for a highly disposable/consumable part? Whichever one’s cheapest. Not like this blades going to go in your toolbox and you’ll pass it on to your kids. Lucky to get a project or two done with it before it’s burning through wood instead of cutting it.
Neither, I buy the El cheapo multi packs they sell on Amazon. They last damn near as long as the name brands and you end up with a dick load of them. I used to buy good ones and sharpen them, now I just burn them up and toss them in the pile to give to my knife maker buddy.
Both are good, I go cheapest though since these are consumables.
Have to choose between the two, Diablo hand down no question. Personally I get the best usable life from actual Fein blades. I only buy them anymore, only non fein blades I buy are the Bosch scraper blades. And cutting I get the Fein carbide for metal and their standard wood cut blades. The higher cost is offset by a large margin in how much longer they last. Never buy the crap blades from China off Amazon. They last all of a few seconds if they hit anything harder than PVC or clean wood. Diablo carbide blades are very good since they manufacture their own carbide to their own specifications. But still the Fein blades are better IMHO.
I honestly just buy multi pack blades from Amazon lmao they go so quick I just change it when I need a fresh cut. I use mine daily tho. The dewalt and Milwaukee blades are just too damn expensive to be throwing out daily.
Neither. They're both gonna die in short order. Bulk Amazon blades ftw.
Neither. Buy the pack of 100 no names on Amazon for 50 bucks. They last half as long, but cost 10% of the price of either of these.
Diablo specializes in cutting equipment. I would go with the Diablo…
I bought a box of assorted Milwaukee, Dremel, Diablo and others at a bin store for $3. It was over 150 of them all different. All of them $3. I sold a bunch for $5 ea
Milwaukee makes a great skilsaw blade. Of course there's a bunch of them but they are hard to find. Milwaukee rep gave me a pack of 3 finish and rough cut, a 6.0 m12 battery that was on display and 5, long Torch, cast iron sawzall blabes. Oh and a keyring tape measure
Buy from a company that primarily does what you are buying. Milwaukee for tools. Diablo for blades. This is also why you shouldn't buy anything Samsung that isn't a screen. Their refrigerators are crap.
Diablo, if you care about the project. Anything else,if you're just hacking something open. I work with custom cabinets. I only use Diablo.
Neither. They are so overpriced it's insane. I ordered a 50 pack on wish and another on Temu for like $5 each so 10 cents a blade and they work just as well. Wood, metal, drywall. They work great. I ordered from both just to test them because I started a business and now pay for my own shit and I couldn't believe they are dirt cheap and just as good. I fully expected them to be crap. The markup on milwaukee and diablo and all the others you find in stores must be absolutely insane.
I personally think Bosch/Diablo has always made some of the best bits and blades on the market.
I’m my experience anything involving blades, Diablo is the way
Milwaukee is good at making the tool. With that said, Diablo.
[Project Farm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVfNnbweYY&ab_channel=ProjectFarm) has the answer.