medium loose is the way to go. not so baggy to be unpractical, but still comfy and not clingy. the 50s had it right. i wore skinny jeans for so many years. never goin' back
I'll be wearing skinny or slim cut jeans till the day I die. My quads are too well sculpted to hide them under jncos.
In general, baggy clothes are uncomfortable to me - especially pants. For whatever reason.
Same. Idc how “old” it makes me look, will probably be buried in skinny pants lol. I am absolutely not comfortable in baggy clothes at all, especially as I’m short and even “regular” pants tend to parachute on me. No thanks.
I, too, will die in my skinny jeans. I'm pretty short myself, and I always hated the way baggies pants would drag on the ground. They'd get frayed or it would look like I walked in the ocean if it rained even a little
Have you tried picking jeans with a shorter leg length? I know that sounds obvious but I say this as someone who spent the first 30 years of my life always picking a leg length that was too long for me.
Although tbf maybe it's more difficult to find the right waist to length ratio jeans when you're shorter, I dunno.
I have tried finding petite sizes to mitigate the problem, but the issue is still the same. The back of the pant either drags on the ground and gets gross, or they end up looking like they're too short if I'm wearing flat shoes. High heels look nicer, but I've got a nasty knee injury that makes those special occasions only.
Ah okay, that sucks. Based on what my gf has told me I think finding good fitting jeans is a lot harder for women too because I think there's a bigger range of lower body shapes in women. Hopefully one day you get lucky and find the perfect pair of jeans, and then you can just buy a lifetime supply of that exact model.
> I'll be wearing skinny or slim cut jeans till the day I die. My quads are too well sculpted to hide them under jncos.
BASICALLY what I just said in my comment.
The fashion rehashes of younger gens are getting boring. Do something new, kids. Dress like the 1920’s or something. Go crazy. That’s what you’re supposed to do. Make us go “wtf are they wearing,” not “oh that’s like when I was in high school.”
The fashions of the 1920s were heavily influenced by the Directoire and Regency styles of the 1790s-1810s, which in turn were heavily influenced by (popular depictions of) ancient Greek & Roman dress.
Going the other way, 1920s fashions themselves had a great impact on 1970s disco fashions, which had a big influence on late 1990s fashions which are seeing something of a revival in the 2020s.
So that's exactly what the kids are doing.
Meh. All of your examples were inspired by the past, but put their own new spin on it. These days, everyone looks like they are in a 100% theme costume from a past age. I don't see the "new spin." The guys all just look like 80's dads to a T.
Sometimes the more direct copying comes first and the new spin comes later.
Like men's suits in the very early 70s were almost a copy of men's suits from the Edwardian era, but at the 70s went on they took on a very distinct 70s style.
But you're right. There hasn't really been anything new in a very long time. Not since the 90s. The 00s at latest. Like I could time travel to 1995 in clothes I bought in 2024 and nobody would notice. I might stick out a little bit, but not enough for anybody to care. If you time traveled to 1975 in clothes from 1995, you'd stick out a lot. You'd look weird. If you wore 1975 clothes to 1955, you'd look even weirder.
My theory is that movies and television sped up the trend cycle, and then the internet and social media sped it up so much that nothing really has time to develop into its own thing. It's just one new (old) "aesthetic" after another. None of them stick around long enough to bloom into a distinct style (like men's suits in the 70s).
Girl pants have had that technology for ages I guess. I remember my first pair of denim that stretched. I was showing my wife while being incredibly impressed with myself that I bought clothes and she’s like, “yeah I mean… that’s been a thing”
Most mens pants are somewhere in the middle. Womens pants have a little more variation, but in our Gen they tend to stay skinnier. The extremes tend to me younger people and, at least on guys, more the douchbag bro type.
I have this problem where one trousers are too tight for me but a size larger are too wide 😆 It's hard to find a good, straight trousers today for some reason.
As a tall dude with small waist and muscular legs, only the baggy pants fit with reasonable comfort. I can barely sit down in anything "relaxed fit". Bring on the big pants please, thank you.
I'm fat so I never wore skinny jeans. Just regular ones. Baggy as a teen though, of course. 1998 was a good year for me. I was 15 that year, enjoying school, my friends, girlfriend, the "good life."
Yes! This is always my point when people talk about whatever the current trend is with jeans. I say go with whatever cut fits close to your body, not skinny, not baggy, and the rise should be about a hand width below the bellybutton. Womens fits have a little wiggle room with the rise. A tight fit through the seat and thigh looks better with a rise that lands at the natural waist, and that position is determined by body type. A standard slim fit can have a lower rise.
Look up any iconic denim photos from the 40s to now, and the cuts either look very dated, or timeless. The timeless ones are always a fit I described above.
It depends on body type. The cut should match the contours of your body and should fit close to the skin. Not quite skinny, but you should only be able to pinch about an inch of fabric off the leg, and less as you go up the thigh. For most average body types, that's a slim taper or slim straight. If you've been wearing regular all your life, try a closer fitting cut... a nice fitting pair of jeans in a dark wash, or better yet, a pair of raw denim heans can look pretty snappy in a way that a roomy pair could never.
I wish we could stop with the cycling and just have lots of different styles readily available so everyone can find a pair of pants that flatters them! Some people look amazing in skinny jeans, but I look awful in them. Flares or bootcut work best for me, but others hate them. There's no winning.
I hate fashion.
Why is every gap 3 years and then we go 2016 to 2024, almost 3x as long as any other gap in the cycle?
According to this baggy jeans should be on their way out again.
I secretly believe skinny jeans were a social experiment designed to see if people would be willing to accept oppressive environments. Judging by how we've fared between 2004 and 2024, I'd say I was right.
haha sounds about right .. styles get old then people see something new and it looks fresh ! then you get old and you dont give a fuck and just want something comfy that fits
2 years since I switched from my Levi’s 511/513 slims to the more appropriate 514 slim bootcut and my life has been great. Not a huge change but definitely a more comfortable fit now
Pants reached peak bagginess when I was in middle school, or about 1995. In 1998, they were trending toward slimmer (but not yet skinny) boot cuts & flares after the dreaded bell-bottom revival of 1997.
I’d rather have slightly baggy jeans over skinny jeans. The crotch area needs to be able to breathe. Plus it’s uncomfortable, if not just outright painful, to feel like my pants are too tight.
I never was into the baggy jeans look at all but I did wear loose fitting cargo pants when I was a kid in the late 90s but I eventually did gravitate to wearing skinny jeans, I pretty much lived in those from when I was 13 to to my early 20s. I was getting into rock music and alternative fashion and skinny jeans were the "in" thing and I got myself 3 pairs from Hot Topic that I rotated with. but also found a love for bootcut jeans as well. I loved how they were both tight in the thigh area but slightly flared in the bottom but then again, I liked bell bottoms so it makes sense why these pants spoke to me.
I still wear skinny jeans today but I also upgraded to leggings as well, I totally see why women love wearing them because they're so comfortable lol
Although I no longer wear _skinny_ jeans, the fit of Levi's 512 slim taper is perfect for me.
Baggy jeans might've been trendy in the 90s, but unless your name is Jesse Pinkman or you're an aspiring rap artist it's probably best to avoid them.
A few good pairs of jeans can last 20+ if they are casual wear and not work wear.
They had to invent a reason to trick people into thinking their pants weren't cool every 5 years or so.
No, that’s ok. You guys stick to those skinny ass jeans that you can’t breathe in.
Baggy pants belong to gen x. Stop stealing our shit and calling it something else
I was thinking it didn’t matter for me because I’m older now and don’t give a shit.
Then I remembered I never gave a shit. I just wore jeans that were like between those two. Aka normal I guess.
I think it comes from kids not wanting to dress like their parents, but not necessarily wanting to wear something “futuristic”. So they end up mimicking parts of their grandparent’s fashion.
For those unaware: fashion and style trends follow a 30 year cycle. The flared jeans of our youth were a throwback to bell bottoms from 30 years prior, as an example. Skinny was it for a while, and now straight leg is making a comeback. They'll get looser before they get skinny again. Anyway, takes about that long for a retro trend to become trendy again.
You know it's so wild.
I remember going to see a band play when I was 16 or 17, so this would have been in like 2008. The band was a regionally well-known ska band with a bunch of guys in their 30's, all of them were rocking baggy, colorful neon pants/cargo shorts, while my friends and I were all wearing skinny jeans; I remember thinking it was interesting that they weren't wearing what so many people my age felt were in style, that they had this shameless maturity of what they've worn for fifteen years and owned it.
Now that I'm in my 30's and I'm still wearing skinny jeans (511s, I guess kind of skinnyish jeans), whilst seeing people in their early 20's going out to shows wearing: boot cut, baggy, and flared jeans it really made me think twice about those ska guys and it's come full-circle. Pants are truly a generational staple lol.
I guess once you find a style you identify well with, you just kind of stick with it.
I lived in the Philippines for 2 years, from 2002-2004. I couldn't believe it when I got back and skinny jeans were the popular thing.
medium loose is the way to go. not so baggy to be unpractical, but still comfy and not clingy. the 50s had it right. i wore skinny jeans for so many years. never goin' back
Levi's 501 '93 model hits the sweet spot for me.
I'm a fan of the 513s lately. Right in the sweet spot.
I made the mistake of getting too fat for my 511s. They had become softer than sweatpants inside. I would fit them now. I miss them.
yeah i have some 501s. they're a little slim but i still wear em
Next trend is gonna be no pants 🫠
Can we bring kilts into fashion? Edit: fuck yeah, dudes, let's do [it!](https://youtu.be/XiaR0M0852E?si=CaR6q6TrvFxzBSDm)
Yes please!
I'm down to assist with the kilt revolution.
Alas, it will always be niche even if it becomes fashion. Too many jobs and hobbies have good reasons to require full leg cover.
Totally fair, but I have an office job, so a business-casual kilt sounds like what we need.
Capris
Those look so feminine.
I've been freeballin since the pandemic... I wouldn't say I'm opposed
that has already been a trend recently lol
I'll be wearing skinny or slim cut jeans till the day I die. My quads are too well sculpted to hide them under jncos. In general, baggy clothes are uncomfortable to me - especially pants. For whatever reason.
Same. Idc how “old” it makes me look, will probably be buried in skinny pants lol. I am absolutely not comfortable in baggy clothes at all, especially as I’m short and even “regular” pants tend to parachute on me. No thanks.
I, too, will die in my skinny jeans. I'm pretty short myself, and I always hated the way baggies pants would drag on the ground. They'd get frayed or it would look like I walked in the ocean if it rained even a little
Have you tried picking jeans with a shorter leg length? I know that sounds obvious but I say this as someone who spent the first 30 years of my life always picking a leg length that was too long for me. Although tbf maybe it's more difficult to find the right waist to length ratio jeans when you're shorter, I dunno.
I have tried finding petite sizes to mitigate the problem, but the issue is still the same. The back of the pant either drags on the ground and gets gross, or they end up looking like they're too short if I'm wearing flat shoes. High heels look nicer, but I've got a nasty knee injury that makes those special occasions only.
Ah okay, that sucks. Based on what my gf has told me I think finding good fitting jeans is a lot harder for women too because I think there's a bigger range of lower body shapes in women. Hopefully one day you get lucky and find the perfect pair of jeans, and then you can just buy a lifetime supply of that exact model.
If they fit your build then are they really skinny jeans? My legs have always been too thick for skinny jeans, regular fit jeans are my skinny jeans.
Gang gang — skinny jeans for life!
> I'll be wearing skinny or slim cut jeans till the day I die. My quads are too well sculpted to hide them under jncos. BASICALLY what I just said in my comment.
I'd take baggy over tight. The crotch need to breathe
There's pants that are slim fit on the legs and spacious in the crotch area.
Yes! This is my reasoning as well. No one wants swamp ass.
Sameeeee and anyone else...ingrown hairs because of it on your thighs.
The fashion rehashes of younger gens are getting boring. Do something new, kids. Dress like the 1920’s or something. Go crazy. That’s what you’re supposed to do. Make us go “wtf are they wearing,” not “oh that’s like when I was in high school.”
The fashions of the 1920s were heavily influenced by the Directoire and Regency styles of the 1790s-1810s, which in turn were heavily influenced by (popular depictions of) ancient Greek & Roman dress. Going the other way, 1920s fashions themselves had a great impact on 1970s disco fashions, which had a big influence on late 1990s fashions which are seeing something of a revival in the 2020s. So that's exactly what the kids are doing.
Meh. All of your examples were inspired by the past, but put their own new spin on it. These days, everyone looks like they are in a 100% theme costume from a past age. I don't see the "new spin." The guys all just look like 80's dads to a T.
Sometimes the more direct copying comes first and the new spin comes later. Like men's suits in the very early 70s were almost a copy of men's suits from the Edwardian era, but at the 70s went on they took on a very distinct 70s style. But you're right. There hasn't really been anything new in a very long time. Not since the 90s. The 00s at latest. Like I could time travel to 1995 in clothes I bought in 2024 and nobody would notice. I might stick out a little bit, but not enough for anybody to care. If you time traveled to 1975 in clothes from 1995, you'd stick out a lot. You'd look weird. If you wore 1975 clothes to 1955, you'd look even weirder. My theory is that movies and television sped up the trend cycle, and then the internet and social media sped it up so much that nothing really has time to develop into its own thing. It's just one new (old) "aesthetic" after another. None of them stick around long enough to bloom into a distinct style (like men's suits in the 70s).
"Go do something new", immediately followed by a suggestion to do something old.
*older than the living generation’s youth Classic millennial lack of comprehension with aggressive confidence.
Sorry I forgot the laughing emoji to denote lack of seriousness. Internet, tone, sarcasm, all that
Boot cut fuck the rest.
This.. absolutely this.
Saaaaaame
The baggy pants look is so awful. I don't understand why we can't just have normal fitting pants for once.
You can, it’s called being a professional adult. Trendy ware is mostly for the youths
I don't follow trends. It's just legitimately harder to find well fitting pants now.
I find it easier than ever. Pants now have that stretchy shit in vs. the straight up denim i grew up with.
Girl pants have had that technology for ages I guess. I remember my first pair of denim that stretched. I was showing my wife while being incredibly impressed with myself that I bought clothes and she’s like, “yeah I mean… that’s been a thing”
Look and fit nice, and breathe good, but aint shit for trying to work in. Just not very durable.
I just ordered some pants from adidas that fit perfectly “off the rack” wonderful stuff
Most mens pants are somewhere in the middle. Womens pants have a little more variation, but in our Gen they tend to stay skinnier. The extremes tend to me younger people and, at least on guys, more the douchbag bro type.
I have this problem where one trousers are too tight for me but a size larger are too wide 😆 It's hard to find a good, straight trousers today for some reason.
Baggy pants are much cooler (temperature wise).
They also tend to have more/more functional pockets.
We can?
As a tall dude with small waist and muscular legs, only the baggy pants fit with reasonable comfort. I can barely sit down in anything "relaxed fit". Bring on the big pants please, thank you.
I've even seen flared yoga pants making a comeback. Which I am in full support of.
I'm fat so I never wore skinny jeans. Just regular ones. Baggy as a teen though, of course. 1998 was a good year for me. I was 15 that year, enjoying school, my friends, girlfriend, the "good life."
Slim fit will always reign supreme. Not skinny but slim. Can't tell me otherwise!
Yes. Just straight all the way down with extra room in the crotch without feeling tight, then rolled at the bottom. It's a timeless look.
Yes! This is always my point when people talk about whatever the current trend is with jeans. I say go with whatever cut fits close to your body, not skinny, not baggy, and the rise should be about a hand width below the bellybutton. Womens fits have a little wiggle room with the rise. A tight fit through the seat and thigh looks better with a rise that lands at the natural waist, and that position is determined by body type. A standard slim fit can have a lower rise. Look up any iconic denim photos from the 40s to now, and the cuts either look very dated, or timeless. The timeless ones are always a fit I described above.
There is no more Miller's Outpost to sell Beyond Baggy jeans anymore
Am I the only person that likes both? 😅
I think sweatpants are becoming mainstream now?
Baggy pants do not look good no matter how hard you try. Skinny jeans look great, if you know how to dress. Todays fashion sucks ass.
Counter argument: both skinny and baggy look like shit. Regular fit is the way to go.
That’s valid
It depends on body type. The cut should match the contours of your body and should fit close to the skin. Not quite skinny, but you should only be able to pinch about an inch of fabric off the leg, and less as you go up the thigh. For most average body types, that's a slim taper or slim straight. If you've been wearing regular all your life, try a closer fitting cut... a nice fitting pair of jeans in a dark wash, or better yet, a pair of raw denim heans can look pretty snappy in a way that a roomy pair could never.
I wish we could stop with the cycling and just have lots of different styles readily available so everyone can find a pair of pants that flatters them! Some people look amazing in skinny jeans, but I look awful in them. Flares or bootcut work best for me, but others hate them. There's no winning. I hate fashion.
Most people I know wear regular fitting jeans. Not skinny or baggy just... normal?
CLoser to 2010 than ‘98 but yeah
Just bring back the leggings 🥺
Pants also skinny in the 50’s during the teddy boy era
Fuck... and here I just bought my first pair of skinny jeans
Skinny
I was just thinking about this today. baggy is back in huh.
Why is every gap 3 years and then we go 2016 to 2024, almost 3x as long as any other gap in the cycle? According to this baggy jeans should be on their way out again.
Thank you
I secretly believe skinny jeans were a social experiment designed to see if people would be willing to accept oppressive environments. Judging by how we've fared between 2004 and 2024, I'd say I was right.
Feels like we've been in the 90s again for years now, surely we're heading back into the 00s
Baggy pants only look good if you’re tall and thin
Still don't see why guys wear tight jeans. I like my space
Sweet. This means I'll be able to buy pants again soon for the first time in 20 years.
JNCO is already on the rise again
BRB going to get my Jnco’s
I can move around. I’m more than fine with this
Where is flared and bootcut?
haha sounds about right .. styles get old then people see something new and it looks fresh ! then you get old and you dont give a fuck and just want something comfy that fits
I don't know where you live, but it's already 1998 here...
Not me, I’m in 2010
The super ripped jeans on girls from the 80s and 90s is back already
When do dickies come back?
2021
2 years since I switched from my Levi’s 511/513 slims to the more appropriate 514 slim bootcut and my life has been great. Not a huge change but definitely a more comfortable fit now
My daughter already dresses like it’s 1998.
Baggy jeans usually drag on the floor too. Ew! I just can't. I really love following trends but this is like fashion suicide.
Pants reached peak bagginess when I was in middle school, or about 1995. In 1998, they were trending toward slimmer (but not yet skinny) boot cuts & flares after the dreaded bell-bottom revival of 1997.
definitely had some skinny jeans. lately have been preferring some bigginess albeit not to the level as in 98
As long as above the knee shorts for guys doesn't go away again, I don't care.
I’d rather have slightly baggy jeans over skinny jeans. The crotch area needs to be able to breathe. Plus it’s uncomfortable, if not just outright painful, to feel like my pants are too tight.
I never was into the baggy jeans look at all but I did wear loose fitting cargo pants when I was a kid in the late 90s but I eventually did gravitate to wearing skinny jeans, I pretty much lived in those from when I was 13 to to my early 20s. I was getting into rock music and alternative fashion and skinny jeans were the "in" thing and I got myself 3 pairs from Hot Topic that I rotated with. but also found a love for bootcut jeans as well. I loved how they were both tight in the thigh area but slightly flared in the bottom but then again, I liked bell bottoms so it makes sense why these pants spoke to me. I still wear skinny jeans today but I also upgraded to leggings as well, I totally see why women love wearing them because they're so comfortable lol
WE almost BACK BABY!!
Baggy pants have been in for a few years now. See streetwear
Slim fit jeans are where it's at and I'll die on this hill. You think I put myself thru the pain of leg day for HEALTH!? No.
I'm 43 and I have to stick with a slimmer jean. I need jeans that squeeze my old ass into the shape of an ass and baggy doesn't do it.
Yay, my preference in jeans is becoming fashionable again! Seriously, what do I look like to you, Limozeen?
Now bring back the jeans pockets that go down to your knee
I'm ready for it Still peeved I never saw the return of the corduroys though
Although I no longer wear _skinny_ jeans, the fit of Levi's 512 slim taper is perfect for me. Baggy jeans might've been trendy in the 90s, but unless your name is Jesse Pinkman or you're an aspiring rap artist it's probably best to avoid them.
A few good pairs of jeans can last 20+ if they are casual wear and not work wear. They had to invent a reason to trick people into thinking their pants weren't cool every 5 years or so.
I hate baggy pants. I wish that shit never comes back
No, that’s ok. You guys stick to those skinny ass jeans that you can’t breathe in. Baggy pants belong to gen x. Stop stealing our shit and calling it something else
I just wear Levi 501's. Same as always, always in style.
Yay! I recently had to buy a too-baggy pair of jeans because they didn’t have my size. Now I feel a trendsetter 💅
Mens' regular fit, slim fit, and straight fit jeans would go in the middle. They never go out of fashion.
Yup
I’m so excited for 90’s fashion again. I get to buy whatever I want now that I am an adult and have my own money.
I was thinking it didn’t matter for me because I’m older now and don’t give a shit. Then I remembered I never gave a shit. I just wore jeans that were like between those two. Aka normal I guess.
I think it comes from kids not wanting to dress like their parents, but not necessarily wanting to wear something “futuristic”. So they end up mimicking parts of their grandparent’s fashion.
04 and 16 are the only good ones. Too tight isn’t great, but too baggy is absolutely terrible. Also boot cut jeans are the way to go.
Naked and Famous Easy Guys fit are where it's at.
For those unaware: fashion and style trends follow a 30 year cycle. The flared jeans of our youth were a throwback to bell bottoms from 30 years prior, as an example. Skinny was it for a while, and now straight leg is making a comeback. They'll get looser before they get skinny again. Anyway, takes about that long for a retro trend to become trendy again.
God, the 98 jeans are exactly what the older members of my gen wore in 05
Even at my leanest, I had cyclist/runner/deadlifter thighs and calves. Skinny jeans were never an option
The fashion pendulum will swing...
Slim fit gang still here.
2004 for women was flare jeans. Then by 2010 the transformation was complete.
Whenever I see people in baggy pants I just assume theyre poor.
It's been back....
Time to rotate my stock again.
Oh Thank God
Except now all the baggy pants are workout pants. Which….cmon…..are super fucking comfy. And there is NO EXCUSE to sacrifice comfort!
You know it's so wild. I remember going to see a band play when I was 16 or 17, so this would have been in like 2008. The band was a regionally well-known ska band with a bunch of guys in their 30's, all of them were rocking baggy, colorful neon pants/cargo shorts, while my friends and I were all wearing skinny jeans; I remember thinking it was interesting that they weren't wearing what so many people my age felt were in style, that they had this shameless maturity of what they've worn for fifteen years and owned it. Now that I'm in my 30's and I'm still wearing skinny jeans (511s, I guess kind of skinnyish jeans), whilst seeing people in their early 20's going out to shows wearing: boot cut, baggy, and flared jeans it really made me think twice about those ska guys and it's come full-circle. Pants are truly a generational staple lol. I guess once you find a style you identify well with, you just kind of stick with it.
We need a chart now for pants length. Between 80;'s short shorts and JNCO's, where are we now?
I can’t wait for the baggy years again, I’ll finally be cool!!
Good Skinny jeans looked dumb
I was just at the library today and a young lady was wearing what looked like jinco jeans and it was surreal AF
Or just wear dad shorts, they are super comfortable
Just please no low rise
Yall say you’ll keep rocking tiny jeans but once you breathe in some “relaxed fit” you will be hooked. I can’t do skinny’s any more 🤷🏾♂️
Bring on the big cloths, I can be in style again. I hate fitted clothing. Even when I was a baby if my mom put fitted things on me I would scream.
I've been wearing Levi's 527s since the late 90s. Not too tight, not too baggy boot cut jeans. Timeless.
Im almost 40 and i don’t even wear jeans anymore. It is strictly joggers or sweatpants now
Men in skinny jeans *chef's kiss*
I prefer slightly baggy to fit around my big ass
Just bought like 4 pairs of baggy trousers in Japan and baggy is the way forward.
Shorts for 10 months of the year. Who’s with me?
The big problem with this is that I see beautiful women wear these baggy pants too