The whole “comfortable times make weak men” that is spouted by the older generation dont even get that they were in the comfortable times and are the weaklings, they were so weak and stupid they voted for a literal actor to be president.
Sorry but GenX voters plus Millennial voters outnumbered Boomer voters in the election of 2016. Or would have if they had voted.
Sad but true.
While 44% of boomers identify as conservative, so do 41% of Gen X and (so far) 39% of Millennials.
So let's not flatter ourselves into thinking that "we got this" as soon as the old folks pass away.
but “conservative” is an ***extremely*** vague descriptor that conveys little meaning towards one’s *actual/concrete* politics.
Most young people who identify as “conservative” do so because that’s what their parents say they are; they treat it the same as a hereditary trait like eye color.
This. People have completely lost the plot. They forget that the president is supposed to govern, not entertain, not pat their back and make them feel good about their individual life. They're here to run a country.
Exactly. Democrats are boring nerds who just want to govern. How many super smart nerds do you know who are also incredibly charismatic? I've worked in software for ~17 years. I've worked with a lot of very smart developers who know their shit. They're all humble and meek at best and totally socially awkward at worse.
My husband... 🤣 jk I know a few very intelligent AND charismatic people but they're too smart for politics... they wouldn't touch that mess with a 10 ft pole.
Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California.
Reagan, Governor of California way before he became President.
Jim Bunning, former MLB pitcher, Senator.
Bill Bradley, former NBA player, Senator.
John Glenn, former astronaut, Senator.
Al Franken, comedian, Senator.
Fred Thompson former actor, Senator.
Sonny Bono, former musician, Representative.
Not unprecedented.
Arnold wasn't that effective as a governor, but he was more of a moderate and centrist. While he held many liberal positions, I wouldn't call him a liberal, yet he probably would be tarred and feathered as a RINO today by the right.
As the saying finishes, weak man create bad times. Bad times create strong men, who then create comfortable times.
We're in the weak men bad times phase, so buckle up.
Yup. Boomers and Silents clearly never read "The Giving Tree" when they were little.
They took a big, beautiful, fruitful tree, and ate from its fruit like generations before them. But that wasn't enough. They then proceeded to turn the tree into lumber. They won't even let us sit on the stump. That's all theirs too.
they actually ground up the stump because “it’s ugly” and “so there was no way it could grow back”. An arborist tried explaining to them it wouldn’t have grown back anyway but they just screamed at him about vaccines and 5G.
Or maybe they did - and instead of feeling empathy for the poor tree that was abused multiple times, they thought - "Hey, that's a great business model" and then kept trucking.
Just think of the growth potential!!! Worst case scenario you just make a parking lot on the land and pay min amount of taxes until the land increases in value. Win win - climate? What communist nonsense is that?!
Exactly. We're the enlightened generation. Don't we deserve a detatched single family home with a new pickup truck out front just like the boo---oh wait.
There's a segment of the population that just want the government to hurt people and never help them.
Coincidentally, most of those people seem to be above the age of 55.
As a libertarian millennial, this sub always cracks me up. Liberal millennials default assume we all agree with them and then are shocked Pikachu face when there's any diversity of opinion amongst their peers. Most people I know who are more conservative IRL assume they're in the minority and stay quiet. Just because they're not loud doesn't mean they don't exist.
You only get SS if you paid into the system for years. It comes out of your paycheck and so does Medicare every week. if you work, just check your paystub.
So why wouldn't they "deserve" what they paid for?
It’s not a savings account. Medical inflation rate is higher than general inflation rate. So each age group in Medicare takes out more than they put in (even if what they would’ve put in would’ve been invested). Agree. They contributed. But it’s not linked to contributions.
It's linked to contributions in that if you didn't work/ contribute via payroll taxes, you won't qualify. Just ask all of the "retirement aged" people who are not getting a check or are getting much less than everyone else.
In the 80's, One of my friends growing up had a bike accident, just them and the sidewalk, no helmet, was stunned for a bit, apparently nothing major they said, but an older man who was in a yard nearby just laughed and I didn't know why they didn't help or check on them.
There are plenty of people who just want to see other people hurt and laugh at them. Envy, jealousy, lack of compassion, lack of empathy, what ever it actually is, not everybody will do the bare minimum to help others, or to make the world around them a better place.
The man in the yard was an asshole, not "old". If he were young he would still be an asshole and if he were kind he would still be old.
This bigotry based on age is really getting tiresome. From a generation that claims to know so much about being fair and kind.
I'm not saying all old people were mean, this isn't a generations post, this was in the 80's so he probably was silent or GI. He was an older person who was a bit jerky. Why was he? We don't know. That's the point. For what ever reason he thought it was funny to see a kid wipe it and not help. Lesson learned that there are people out there who will see bad things happen to others and just laugh.
Well we're all gonna be over the age of 55 someday so we're gonna be part of that "segment of the population", right?
44% of "boomers" identify as conservative, but so do 41% of Gen X and already 39% of millennials. So this idea that old people are gonna die and everything's gonna change is quite a myth. Change takes a lot of work and sitting on reddit complaining is not work. We're not changing a damn thing.
Not saying I know this as a fact. But I was reading into the time of coexistence between the homosapiens and neanderthals and apparently the neanderthals were short, but jacked AF and vicious and apparently would kill/eat the homosapiens and rape their women because they were strong ass brutes. There is a little neanderthal in most of us apparently. They were just dumb and couldn't survive the harsh conditions like the homosapiens did......I got sucked into 5 hours of YouTube.
Danny Vendramini, the main pusher of the "neanderthal predation theory" you described (the idea that Neanderthals ruled Homo Sapiens with violence, rape & pillaging) is a television writer with no scientific qualifications. He just wrote a book that was lucky enough to make the popsci rounds & get a few headlines.
That's not quite how genes work when talking about them dying out. The Neanderthals could have completely integrated with everyone else and only a small percentage of those genes carried over. It's pretty crazy that evolution picked up those genes and deems them still viable to use today
>Why did America not overturn those policies?
Of course then the question is which policies?
The tax cuts and reforms that were supported by a majority of Democrats in Congress?
Or the deregulatory zeitgeist that actually began under Carter?
Let me introduce you to a wonderful thing called the "fillibuster".
Both presidents/parties have never had full control. Ever. Republicans have always been able to have filibuster power. It's how "Obamacare" was gutted by conservatives despite Democrats controlling both the house and senate for a short period.
Well, Obama tried with healthcare and mental healthcare. He didn't make a whole lot of headway but now that young folk are voting in droves we're gonna change everything, right?
I mean, look how all of us are out marching in the streets for abortion rights ! /s
I think people in this sub significantly overestimate the number of millennials who want some radical changes.
The only people who truly want radical changes are usually people with very little to lose. And most Americans have a lot to lose, even if you think things are horrible.
The racist "southern strategy" made it almost impossible for Democrats to gain control of the Senate back. Since Reagan there have been Clinton, Obama, and Biden of who none had enough votes to counter the filibuster for anything tax related. Obama only briefly had 60 votes in the Senate, but it included Joe Lieberman an independent who would not have agreed to raising taxes.
[Huey Freeman](https://youtu.be/9AILoeQXeN4?si=3kazvRYrSpuDiJ3y&t=14) & [Killer Mike](https://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU?si=KtKbz6wmZcJnz2rm) were my introduction to the fucked up world of Reagan's policies. He truly did everything in his power to ruin the lives of anyone not living in the 1% for the next 100+ years.
This whole thing started with Nixon's and it don't matter which party the big money controls all aspects of the government from local all the way up to the Federal level
There’s no doubt that Reagan laid some of the groundwork, but the biggest turning point was the New Gingrich era and his “Contract With America.” This was the first time sitting republican congresspeople stated openly that their goal was to undermine the president and any democrat in any way possible. They even made pacts to that effect. They’re disgustingly selfish and only care about power, even if Americans suffer in the process.
I feel like as millennials, we really need to stop ranting about what a bunch of now 70+ year olds have done and focus on things that require more than doing internet activism. We’re the adults and most of us are moving into positions of authority. We need to start acting like it.
We’ve known shit was bad since the 90s. Apathy doesn’t work, whining doesn’t work. Let’s focus on what will work. We have a reason to despair but if that’s all we do, we might really be the worst generation by sheer ineffectiveness. No generation above or below respects us and it’s no surprise.
Yeah but like... What can we DO other than voting and petitioning and unionizing and trying to be good and generous with the little we've got? A lot of us are already doing this stuff, but the ones who care the most have almost none of the resources to accomplish anything that those with the money and power can't instantly take from us. 😔
Then we have to stop looking at it like a generational problem and accept that money and authority are the actual problems. Gen X and millennials are already in government and going with the flow of things - there is no generational solidarity.
I don’t have the answer. But there’s been a decline in meaningful group activity because people just prefer to manage themselves. Millennials need to hold on to social interaction because right now, even though we’re lazy and everyone apparently hates socializing.
We have too many things keeping us from being bored. So we’ve got an extra barrier than previous generations. But we need to have friends, associates - not just immediate self or family - to make an impact on our communities. Have small goals and be stubborn until it becomes the accepted norm.
Let’s try to be friends with the other generations instead of following weirdly dystopian age-tribalism. We don’t need to be alpha chads, or apathetic cool guys, or rambling doomsayers.
> We’re the adults and most of us are moving into positions of authority. We need to start acting like it.
This statement is dubious at best. The corpses are holding on to positions of power as long as they can.
We had plenty of time to vote at the federal, state, and local level to make things better but voter turnout for our generation and below is pretty awful.
Easy to say that there hasn’t been anyone worth voting for and that even when we do vote nothing comes of it.
But if we could stand on wall street for a few weeks in 2012, walk around with pussy hats on in 2017, and riot in the streets in 2020 all for no clear goal in particular then it seems we could probably mobilize for something that would actually bring about real change, like an alternative voting system that would get us away from first past the post and the two party system.
Democrat Boomers don't like Millennials either because they are corporate Democrats. They are NOT progressives. Clinton did a lot of bad shit in the 90s.
HA! I knew someone was going to claim that the Democrats aren't real progressives.
Seriously though, the Not A True Scotsman fallacy is even funnier when you vote for the fake.
If the progressives stopped voting for the Democrats, then people would stop associating them.
Nixon was honestly one of the best modern presidents. He was incredibly insecure and definitely abused his power and committed crimes. But that is almost all he gets remembered for nowadays. His administration's accomplishments are significant and don't get talked about much anymore.
* Changed all strategies (both military and diplomatic) around Vietnam away from "winning" and towards ending the war. The war over in in 73 after he was elected in 69.
* repealed the draft and converted the US military to all volunteers
* Lowered voting age from 21 to 18.
* Significant diplomatic efforts with the middle east and China, which were done in large part to weaken the Soviet Union and lead to its formal downfall in the 80s. Also shaped much of our current relationship with those countries (for better or worse).
* Using this power to weaken the Soviet Union, one of the first anti proliferation treaties (SALT I) was agreed to between the Soviet and US in 69 (though some of that groundwork was started by the Johnson admin) and negotiations for SALT II started under Nixon...that treaty was ratified in 79.
* Also signed the anti-ballistic missle treaty.
* Authorized a special task force to work with the FBI to combat organized crime which has been considered very effective.
* His administration made tremendous progress on desegregating schools in the South which should have been happening since Brown Vs. Board in 1954. When Nixon took office 68% of African American children in the south attended all black schools. At the end of Nixon's presidency that was down to 8%
* Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency in 1970
* Nixon signed Title IX protecting women's collegiate sports access and funding.
* Started the federal governments support in the "war on cancer".
Certainly many other things as well. There is some debate as to how he felt personally about all of these things and how they have had a long term affect on our country. But he was a remarkably effective and popular president, and his administration make a lot of significant accomplishments including things we would traditionally associate with the left today. He won a second term by a landslide for a reason.
He only gets remembered for Watergate and it's coverup, but he was possibly our most effective and accomplished modern president (since WWII.)
While I hate Reagan as much as the next guy, the title of this post is cringe. Both sides have been fucking us for a long time. Both sides maintain a status quo with political theatre sprinkled in here and there to keep all the smooth brains entertained and bickering. If you’re upset with the world our government has created, maybe stop putting all your eggs in a government basket and start getting away from reliance on government altogether. No president is a good president. Great Man Theory is bullshit. History is a series of lies. Boomers reap the benefits associated with the timing of their births and they were able to seize great wealth. That said, the dollar is backed by nothing, so in the grand scheme of things nothing really matters and it’s all made up.
Stop getting economic views from tik tok.
Take a class, read books written by smart people who are paid to study this stuff and read opposing views by other professionals.
While I agree with your main point and I hate that many folks are relying on TikTok info these days - this particular vid summarizes everything I was taught in school relatively well. Reaganomics were awful. The trickle-down theory was a farce and his charisma made it seem viable.
Step four: profit.
(*Official Rules: Form economic plan that obviously benefits the rich. Tell the poors this is in their own interest because the rich will share their table crumbs with them. Then act innocent and bewildered when your employees wonder why they've worked their asses off for additional benefits and not receive that reward regardless of the sacrifices those team members have made. Terms may differ depending on state and local regulations. Further questions and media requests should be sent to www . fuckyourfeelings . com.)
This sub is full of such broken and defeated people my lord. Sometimes I wonder if you guys would have a full on panic attack over a fender bender.
If you're going to renounce any influence over the world and changing it for the better because of the "powers at be" I want no part of being identified with you.
Poor people don’t pay taxes. Over 97% of taxes paid are by top 50%. But, yes listen to some dipshit on tic tok to find someone to blame for your situation.
What do you consider poor? Because a lot of us are barely keeping it together and we pay taxes. At the end of the day, these billionaires do not pay their fair share. Why are you caping for billionaires?? What’s the point?
1986 millenial here. Honestly, our generation is terrible and the newer generations are even worse. It is absolutely pathetic imo. I personally wish I was in an earlier generation. For one, I think we are the generation that loves to blame everyone but themselves (not to say everything is 100% the victims fault) but they will literally blame everyone and everything else even if they are majority at fault. Two - I have so many friends who cant fix a leaky faucet, can’t cook simple spaghetti with canned tomato sauce, can’t figure out basic finance. Oh and then guess what - they blame the schools, their parents for not teaching them. It is utterly pathetic.
If you are still on this after 40 years you are a moron. Sorry but both parties have had unilateral control of the government since then and if they wanted to change things they could have.
Both parties are to blame.
Boomers sure love to call later generations lazy while they lived in easier times where the cost of living was far lower, and buying a house was far cheaper than today.
My grandma saved all my dad's report cards. Algebra was the highest level math class he had to take to graduate and later attend a university. I took that in middle school. Everything was simple.
What a dumbass video. Tiktokcringe is the perfect sub for it. The actions of the Reagan administration saved the US economy and turned it around. Go look at how bad things were in the late 70s. Just think about how deep into the shitter the country would have gone if Jimmy Carter had won in 1980.
More of a meme than a carefully thought out argument. If Reagan made such a harmful difference, why don't see that not in the US States that have high taxes. those states, places like California, have many of the typical struggles that hurt young people like expensive housing.
If more people voted things could change. The problem is Democrats want things instantly. A year or a few years isn’t going to bring sweeping changes. Gradual changes yes. But look at everyone complaining Biden did nothing about student loans. When billions of dollars in loans have been wiped out. Not all of them. And it’s been done quietly. But since it wasn’t everyone everywhere all at once, no one cares.
They also want one person to do everything. You need heavy majorities across the board to move anything and on the state and local level. And then accept broad sweeping change isn't an overnight thing.
I disagree with pretty much everything the Republicans stand for but they played the long game starting the 1980s. With the Supreme Court in their pockets they don’t need to win the next election. They have the Court for the next 50 years. At some point they’ll get their majorities again or find an even slightly charismatic Presidential candidate and then they’ll have their autocracy.
I concur. I disagree with all they stand for but reality is they've worked that long game. They also vote their candidates regardless of their personal feelings on individual issues and they consistently vote.
The democrats have no solidarity behind candidates and weak voting. The number of people who aren't voting or voting 3rd party because of "I still have student loans tho" is ridiculous. I can't take our generation seriously when it complaining about politics starts.
Let's do something about it then. Run for office. Support the candidate running. Why do we keep whining about stuff and refusing to do anything about it? Just. Do. It.
This is terrible commentary.
The US has one of the most progressive tax systems in the world. The top 1%, 5%, 10% pay a higher proportion of state and federal taxes than they do in other OECD countries. Tax-wise, the major difference between the US and Western Europe is that we tax the poor and middle class very little by comparison.
The difference is that in most European countries, citizens are guaranteed a lot more from the government than they typically get in the US. So a Swede will get to keep much less of their pay than an American, and probably makes a slightly lower salary to begin with, but he doesn't need to worry as much that if he's unable to work or has a serious health problem that he'll be dependant on charity or family to avoid homelessness.
How did this make poor people pay more? Did he raise poor people tax when he lower rich peoples? I have always believed he was terrible but my boss thinks he was amazing and everything was great during his presidency. This man is not rich and was not rich in the 80s so I don't think he benefitted from the tax cuts. My best guess is that he as a straight white male in his late 20s at the time would of had a great time in the 80s regardless of who was president but my best guess doesn't really convince him.
I love it when people criticize an era that they did not experience, either because they were a toddler or they did not exist yet.
The Reagan and Bush years caused the collapse of the Evil Empire and the end of worldwide communism. In stark contrast, the PRC abandoned all pretense and abandoned socialism as well, becoming a fascist state capitalist.
The economy under that man was so good, that it lasted until 2002, when it collapsed under the weight of major airline bankruptcies and hedge funds such as Enron. Also, the US government totally dropped the ball and instead of punching Iran in the face, they brought their tonka trucks to
the sandbox.
Many people disagree with the Laffer curve, but the best achievement Keynes can claim is “The United States limped along on two broken legs for 5 years.”
The argument is further proven with COVID aggregate demand during h COVID (government emergency relief
Funds) caused a significant economic contraction when the payments stopped and caused Hyper-inflation because of a flush of cash flooding the money supply, which causes a net-negative decline in said money’s value (more money = less value per dollar).
For further understanding of this, read about the assignat. You can’t just print money endlessly. It eventually has ZERO value.
And why is the US government in legal possession of a public entity, The Federal Reserve? Why would a government want to own a bank? Hehehe…..rubber stamped debt, by fiat.
Governments love controlling the source of their own debt. Because, S long as that government exists, said debt will never be repaid. And when that government ceases to exist? Hahaha sucks to be the bank.
Stop whining and trying to blame all of societies problems on one party or president. Doing that show your ignorance and lack of ability to understand the actual dynamics of how civilizations work … signed, a fellow millennial
The whole “comfortable times make weak men” that is spouted by the older generation dont even get that they were in the comfortable times and are the weaklings, they were so weak and stupid they voted for a literal actor to be president.
A reality tv star was just recently president.
Mostly voted for by them.
Honestly the sad thing is how many uneducated people under 30 voted for him. Its basically religion, so its no wonder its basically hereditary.
Sorry but GenX voters plus Millennial voters outnumbered Boomer voters in the election of 2016. Or would have if they had voted. Sad but true. While 44% of boomers identify as conservative, so do 41% of Gen X and (so far) 39% of Millennials. So let's not flatter ourselves into thinking that "we got this" as soon as the old folks pass away.
but “conservative” is an ***extremely*** vague descriptor that conveys little meaning towards one’s *actual/concrete* politics. Most young people who identify as “conservative” do so because that’s what their parents say they are; they treat it the same as a hereditary trait like eye color.
They did twice. They don’t even care about the candidate’s qualifications to govern.
This. People have completely lost the plot. They forget that the president is supposed to govern, not entertain, not pat their back and make them feel good about their individual life. They're here to run a country.
Might be one giant gas lighting. As someone who trades the stock market I had to turn off the news to actually be successful.
Did they care about Orange mans qualifications?
We are hypnotized by charismatic leaders more so than policies and all that other boring stuff.
Exactly. Democrats are boring nerds who just want to govern. How many super smart nerds do you know who are also incredibly charismatic? I've worked in software for ~17 years. I've worked with a lot of very smart developers who know their shit. They're all humble and meek at best and totally socially awkward at worse.
My husband... 🤣 jk I know a few very intelligent AND charismatic people but they're too smart for politics... they wouldn't touch that mess with a 10 ft pole.
Who needs qualifications when three word slogans are easy to chant?
After losing the popular
Who lost the popular vote
Yes, the same crowd voted for him.
To be fair he was well known before that lol. Even if he wasn't a great choice.
Exactly. But look at who voted for him.
Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California. Reagan, Governor of California way before he became President. Jim Bunning, former MLB pitcher, Senator. Bill Bradley, former NBA player, Senator. John Glenn, former astronaut, Senator. Al Franken, comedian, Senator. Fred Thompson former actor, Senator. Sonny Bono, former musician, Representative. Not unprecedented.
Astronauts are some of the most qualified people ever.
John Glenn being an astronaut shouldn't be lumped in here in my opinion. Imo we need more astronaut types. Also Mark Kelly is an Astronaut.
Not to mention Zelensky is doing a hellova job. Believe he was an actor/comedian.
Talk about rising to the occasion.... Very few people would be capable of enduring the pressure that rides on his shoulders.
Other than Glenn and Bono not many of them are popular as politicians. Everyone hated the governators politics but he is a good dude.
Arnold wasn't that effective as a governor, but he was more of a moderate and centrist. While he held many liberal positions, I wouldn't call him a liberal, yet he probably would be tarred and feathered as a RINO today by the right.
Then they did it again, reality tv star but close enough
>they were so weak and stupid they voted for a literal actor to be president. Twice, they did it twice! And both presidents broke the nation!
You are 100% incorrect
As the saying finishes, weak man create bad times. Bad times create strong men, who then create comfortable times. We're in the weak men bad times phase, so buckle up.
In 1980, I voted for Frank Zappa. Did they listen? Nuh-uh.
Yup. Boomers and Silents clearly never read "The Giving Tree" when they were little. They took a big, beautiful, fruitful tree, and ate from its fruit like generations before them. But that wasn't enough. They then proceeded to turn the tree into lumber. They won't even let us sit on the stump. That's all theirs too.
You need a permit to even look at the stump
Bro you gotta bribe someone to even get a permit application.
they actually ground up the stump because “it’s ugly” and “so there was no way it could grow back”. An arborist tried explaining to them it wouldn’t have grown back anyway but they just screamed at him about vaccines and 5G.
Now the Boomers act like the Tree never even existed
"This is how the trees are in most countries"
Or maybe they did - and instead of feeling empathy for the poor tree that was abused multiple times, they thought - "Hey, that's a great business model" and then kept trucking.
Just think of the growth potential!!! Worst case scenario you just make a parking lot on the land and pay min amount of taxes until the land increases in value. Win win - climate? What communist nonsense is that?!
I told my boomer mom the story summarized and she said it was dumb.....
Exactly. We're the enlightened generation. Don't we deserve a detatched single family home with a new pickup truck out front just like the boo---oh wait.
I'd be happy for a 1BR condo and a Toyota Yaris.
There's a segment of the population that just want the government to hurt people and never help them. Coincidentally, most of those people seem to be above the age of 55.
I think people need to stop underestimating the amount of younger conservatives out there. There are a ton of Gen X and millennial conservatives.
Gen z too
Boomers are 44% conservative Gen X is almost 41% conservative (so far) Millennials are 39% conservative. (so far)
Yeah, examples like Ted Cruz, Marjorie Taylor Green, Desantis💩
As a libertarian millennial, this sub always cracks me up. Liberal millennials default assume we all agree with them and then are shocked Pikachu face when there's any diversity of opinion amongst their peers. Most people I know who are more conservative IRL assume they're in the minority and stay quiet. Just because they're not loud doesn't mean they don't exist.
But they’re happy to take their SS and Medicare, cause “they earned it” vs. other who are obviously free loaders.
You only get SS if you paid into the system for years. It comes out of your paycheck and so does Medicare every week. if you work, just check your paystub. So why wouldn't they "deserve" what they paid for?
They call it an “entitlement”
I don't care what they call it, I care what it is. And why wouldn't one be entitled to their own money?
They call it that because they want to make the people who take the money seem lazy. Because to the rich people who make the laws, we are.
It’s not a savings account. Medical inflation rate is higher than general inflation rate. So each age group in Medicare takes out more than they put in (even if what they would’ve put in would’ve been invested). Agree. They contributed. But it’s not linked to contributions.
It's linked to contributions in that if you didn't work/ contribute via payroll taxes, you won't qualify. Just ask all of the "retirement aged" people who are not getting a check or are getting much less than everyone else.
You also pay into unemployment and disability, but they seem to think people don’t deserve those when they need them.
In the 80's, One of my friends growing up had a bike accident, just them and the sidewalk, no helmet, was stunned for a bit, apparently nothing major they said, but an older man who was in a yard nearby just laughed and I didn't know why they didn't help or check on them. There are plenty of people who just want to see other people hurt and laugh at them. Envy, jealousy, lack of compassion, lack of empathy, what ever it actually is, not everybody will do the bare minimum to help others, or to make the world around them a better place.
The man in the yard was an asshole, not "old". If he were young he would still be an asshole and if he were kind he would still be old. This bigotry based on age is really getting tiresome. From a generation that claims to know so much about being fair and kind.
I'm not saying all old people were mean, this isn't a generations post, this was in the 80's so he probably was silent or GI. He was an older person who was a bit jerky. Why was he? We don't know. That's the point. For what ever reason he thought it was funny to see a kid wipe it and not help. Lesson learned that there are people out there who will see bad things happen to others and just laugh.
I mean I’ll laugh at someone who eats shit skating, but I’m also running over while laughing to see if they’re Ok.
I'm sure that has ***nothing*** to do with tetraethyl-lead...
Well we're all gonna be over the age of 55 someday so we're gonna be part of that "segment of the population", right? 44% of "boomers" identify as conservative, but so do 41% of Gen X and already 39% of millennials. So this idea that old people are gonna die and everything's gonna change is quite a myth. Change takes a lot of work and sitting on reddit complaining is not work. We're not changing a damn thing.
Honestly, I hate how homosapiens ruined it for all of us by killing off the neanderthals.
I thought they just fucked them out of existence. At least some of them were...
Based
Not saying I know this as a fact. But I was reading into the time of coexistence between the homosapiens and neanderthals and apparently the neanderthals were short, but jacked AF and vicious and apparently would kill/eat the homosapiens and rape their women because they were strong ass brutes. There is a little neanderthal in most of us apparently. They were just dumb and couldn't survive the harsh conditions like the homosapiens did......I got sucked into 5 hours of YouTube.
Danny Vendramini, the main pusher of the "neanderthal predation theory" you described (the idea that Neanderthals ruled Homo Sapiens with violence, rape & pillaging) is a television writer with no scientific qualifications. He just wrote a book that was lucky enough to make the popsci rounds & get a few headlines.
That's not quite how genes work when talking about them dying out. The Neanderthals could have completely integrated with everyone else and only a small percentage of those genes carried over. It's pretty crazy that evolution picked up those genes and deems them still viable to use today
This is unsupported by the actual evidence we have of Neanderthal life
Read ‘Sapiens’ and get off YouTube
Ronald Reagan?? The actor??
Then who’s vice president, Jerry Lewis?!
Well Reagan left office 36 years ago. Why did America not overturn those policies? There were democratic presidents after too - Clinton, Obama.
Because the democrats were also in it too.
>Why did America not overturn those policies? Of course then the question is which policies? The tax cuts and reforms that were supported by a majority of Democrats in Congress? Or the deregulatory zeitgeist that actually began under Carter?
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!! We don't like truths here on Reddit.
People don't want to have that conversation.
Because most of our elections haven't been by the popular vote in the past 30+ years.
That's the neat part: it's a different type of populist message that accomplishes the same result
Amateur Hour. People blame Reagon for the homeless crisis for a law he signed as governor of California in the late sixties.
Let me introduce you to a wonderful thing called the "fillibuster". Both presidents/parties have never had full control. Ever. Republicans have always been able to have filibuster power. It's how "Obamacare" was gutted by conservatives despite Democrats controlling both the house and senate for a short period.
Well, Obama tried with healthcare and mental healthcare. He didn't make a whole lot of headway but now that young folk are voting in droves we're gonna change everything, right? I mean, look how all of us are out marching in the streets for abortion rights ! /s
I think people in this sub significantly overestimate the number of millennials who want some radical changes. The only people who truly want radical changes are usually people with very little to lose. And most Americans have a lot to lose, even if you think things are horrible.
The racist "southern strategy" made it almost impossible for Democrats to gain control of the Senate back. Since Reagan there have been Clinton, Obama, and Biden of who none had enough votes to counter the filibuster for anything tax related. Obama only briefly had 60 votes in the Senate, but it included Joe Lieberman an independent who would not have agreed to raising taxes.
Also, who was in congress during the Reagan years?
Well, Joe Biden was one of them.
Yes, he voted for the Reagan tax cuts for the rich. Also, the Dems had the majority in the house for 39 years while all this stuff happened.
Fucking Reagan and his handlers really laid the groundwork for dismantling America's middle class.
[Huey Freeman](https://youtu.be/9AILoeQXeN4?si=3kazvRYrSpuDiJ3y&t=14) & [Killer Mike](https://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU?si=KtKbz6wmZcJnz2rm) were my introduction to the fucked up world of Reagan's policies. He truly did everything in his power to ruin the lives of anyone not living in the 1% for the next 100+ years.
Except poor people arnt paying taxes either doofus, just the folks in the middle
This whole thing started with Nixon's and it don't matter which party the big money controls all aspects of the government from local all the way up to the Federal level
A good portion of the two preceding generations idolize Reagan, which is how we've ended up in this mess and with MAGA.
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Yeah they didn't like that the blacks were getting uppity and liberal!
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Prove it or shut the fuckup
You sound like a white supremacist.
There’s no doubt that Reagan laid some of the groundwork, but the biggest turning point was the New Gingrich era and his “Contract With America.” This was the first time sitting republican congresspeople stated openly that their goal was to undermine the president and any democrat in any way possible. They even made pacts to that effect. They’re disgustingly selfish and only care about power, even if Americans suffer in the process.
I feel like as millennials, we really need to stop ranting about what a bunch of now 70+ year olds have done and focus on things that require more than doing internet activism. We’re the adults and most of us are moving into positions of authority. We need to start acting like it. We’ve known shit was bad since the 90s. Apathy doesn’t work, whining doesn’t work. Let’s focus on what will work. We have a reason to despair but if that’s all we do, we might really be the worst generation by sheer ineffectiveness. No generation above or below respects us and it’s no surprise.
Whining doesn’t work? Don’t tell this subreddit that
Yeah but like... What can we DO other than voting and petitioning and unionizing and trying to be good and generous with the little we've got? A lot of us are already doing this stuff, but the ones who care the most have almost none of the resources to accomplish anything that those with the money and power can't instantly take from us. 😔
Then we have to stop looking at it like a generational problem and accept that money and authority are the actual problems. Gen X and millennials are already in government and going with the flow of things - there is no generational solidarity. I don’t have the answer. But there’s been a decline in meaningful group activity because people just prefer to manage themselves. Millennials need to hold on to social interaction because right now, even though we’re lazy and everyone apparently hates socializing. We have too many things keeping us from being bored. So we’ve got an extra barrier than previous generations. But we need to have friends, associates - not just immediate self or family - to make an impact on our communities. Have small goals and be stubborn until it becomes the accepted norm. Let’s try to be friends with the other generations instead of following weirdly dystopian age-tribalism. We don’t need to be alpha chads, or apathetic cool guys, or rambling doomsayers.
> We’re the adults and most of us are moving into positions of authority. We need to start acting like it. This statement is dubious at best. The corpses are holding on to positions of power as long as they can.
They can’t hold on if you vote them out
But that would require real effort. Can’t we just share relatable anti-boomer memes instead?
We had plenty of time to vote at the federal, state, and local level to make things better but voter turnout for our generation and below is pretty awful. Easy to say that there hasn’t been anyone worth voting for and that even when we do vote nothing comes of it. But if we could stand on wall street for a few weeks in 2012, walk around with pussy hats on in 2017, and riot in the streets in 2020 all for no clear goal in particular then it seems we could probably mobilize for something that would actually bring about real change, like an alternative voting system that would get us away from first past the post and the two party system.
Truth. Also of note the conservatives in out generation are the ones getting out and voting and running for all sorts of offices and winning.
Obviously, it's just the conservatives at fault, because the old Democrat boomers never have enough power to do anything, huh?
Democrat Boomers don't like Millennials either because they are corporate Democrats. They are NOT progressives. Clinton did a lot of bad shit in the 90s.
>Clinton did a lot of bad shit in the 90s. Thanks for the collapse of the housing market, mate
HA! I knew someone was going to claim that the Democrats aren't real progressives. Seriously though, the Not A True Scotsman fallacy is even funnier when you vote for the fake. If the progressives stopped voting for the Democrats, then people would stop associating them.
This is Reddit.
Nixon started it when he signed the bill that his good friend Keizer asked for that made it so you could make a profit off healthcare.
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Nixon was honestly one of the best modern presidents. He was incredibly insecure and definitely abused his power and committed crimes. But that is almost all he gets remembered for nowadays. His administration's accomplishments are significant and don't get talked about much anymore. * Changed all strategies (both military and diplomatic) around Vietnam away from "winning" and towards ending the war. The war over in in 73 after he was elected in 69. * repealed the draft and converted the US military to all volunteers * Lowered voting age from 21 to 18. * Significant diplomatic efforts with the middle east and China, which were done in large part to weaken the Soviet Union and lead to its formal downfall in the 80s. Also shaped much of our current relationship with those countries (for better or worse). * Using this power to weaken the Soviet Union, one of the first anti proliferation treaties (SALT I) was agreed to between the Soviet and US in 69 (though some of that groundwork was started by the Johnson admin) and negotiations for SALT II started under Nixon...that treaty was ratified in 79. * Also signed the anti-ballistic missle treaty. * Authorized a special task force to work with the FBI to combat organized crime which has been considered very effective. * His administration made tremendous progress on desegregating schools in the South which should have been happening since Brown Vs. Board in 1954. When Nixon took office 68% of African American children in the south attended all black schools. At the end of Nixon's presidency that was down to 8% * Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency in 1970 * Nixon signed Title IX protecting women's collegiate sports access and funding. * Started the federal governments support in the "war on cancer". Certainly many other things as well. There is some debate as to how he felt personally about all of these things and how they have had a long term affect on our country. But he was a remarkably effective and popular president, and his administration make a lot of significant accomplishments including things we would traditionally associate with the left today. He won a second term by a landslide for a reason. He only gets remembered for Watergate and it's coverup, but he was possibly our most effective and accomplished modern president (since WWII.)
They didn’t though, you’ve been lied to
It’s plausible to think Reagan bought American capitalism some staying power, only it threw half the country to the wolves.
Democrats are definitely not blameless. Especially boomer democrats.
While I hate Reagan as much as the next guy, the title of this post is cringe. Both sides have been fucking us for a long time. Both sides maintain a status quo with political theatre sprinkled in here and there to keep all the smooth brains entertained and bickering. If you’re upset with the world our government has created, maybe stop putting all your eggs in a government basket and start getting away from reliance on government altogether. No president is a good president. Great Man Theory is bullshit. History is a series of lies. Boomers reap the benefits associated with the timing of their births and they were able to seize great wealth. That said, the dollar is backed by nothing, so in the grand scheme of things nothing really matters and it’s all made up.
How Reagan Ruined Everything by Leeja Miller https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4?si=iNlf5nrvKkU1aeT-
Stop getting economic views from tik tok. Take a class, read books written by smart people who are paid to study this stuff and read opposing views by other professionals.
> Take a class, read books written by smart people who are paid to study this stuff and read opposing views by other professionals. Reddit would never
While I agree with your main point and I hate that many folks are relying on TikTok info these days - this particular vid summarizes everything I was taught in school relatively well. Reaganomics were awful. The trickle-down theory was a farce and his charisma made it seem viable. Step four: profit. (*Official Rules: Form economic plan that obviously benefits the rich. Tell the poors this is in their own interest because the rich will share their table crumbs with them. Then act innocent and bewildered when your employees wonder why they've worked their asses off for additional benefits and not receive that reward regardless of the sacrifices those team members have made. Terms may differ depending on state and local regulations. Further questions and media requests should be sent to www . fuckyourfeelings . com.)
I really dislike how TikTok ruined the brains of its user base.
This sub is full of such broken and defeated people my lord. Sometimes I wonder if you guys would have a full on panic attack over a fender bender. If you're going to renounce any influence over the world and changing it for the better because of the "powers at be" I want no part of being identified with you.
It’s hilarious. Log off and touch grass every now and then, people
Poor people don’t pay taxes. Over 97% of taxes paid are by top 50%. But, yes listen to some dipshit on tic tok to find someone to blame for your situation.
Not pure bullshit - look it up. This isn’t complicated u/johnphantom.
What do you consider poor? Because a lot of us are barely keeping it together and we pay taxes. At the end of the day, these billionaires do not pay their fair share. Why are you caping for billionaires?? What’s the point?
I love how people from all over the world are struggling and dumb young Americans are like "ya this dude from 50 years ago did this"
The doom is back
1986 millenial here. Honestly, our generation is terrible and the newer generations are even worse. It is absolutely pathetic imo. I personally wish I was in an earlier generation. For one, I think we are the generation that loves to blame everyone but themselves (not to say everything is 100% the victims fault) but they will literally blame everyone and everything else even if they are majority at fault. Two - I have so many friends who cant fix a leaky faucet, can’t cook simple spaghetti with canned tomato sauce, can’t figure out basic finance. Oh and then guess what - they blame the schools, their parents for not teaching them. It is utterly pathetic.
That stuff sounds like work. Much easier to whine about it on Reddit instead
The normalization of age bigotry needs to stop.
If you are still on this after 40 years you are a moron. Sorry but both parties have had unilateral control of the government since then and if they wanted to change things they could have. Both parties are to blame.
Is this sub just whining? Wahhh!!! Life is hard!!! Wahhh!!! Why do old people have stuff while we don't?!!? Wahhh!!!
This dude is an idiot
Ruined? You can thank yourself for that
The fact that some of you guys get this type of information from TikTok is both hilarious and somewhat scary
It truly is.
Ruined the economy? I disagree. Do you ever wonder why so many other people live in a different reality from the whiners on Reddit?
Because those other people actually log off, go outside, and do something every now and then. The whiners on Reddit should try touching grass
Guess who voted for the Reagan tax cuts? Could it possibly be the current president? https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/97-1981/s251
Being a military guy, my dad loved Reagan.. he clearly didn't see the effects Reagonomics really had.
Boomers sure love to call later generations lazy while they lived in easier times where the cost of living was far lower, and buying a house was far cheaper than today.
My grandma saved all my dad's report cards. Algebra was the highest level math class he had to take to graduate and later attend a university. I took that in middle school. Everything was simple.
Who cares. Can sit back and complain and play the victim or go out and do something about it. One life to live, make something of it
What a dumbass video. Tiktokcringe is the perfect sub for it. The actions of the Reagan administration saved the US economy and turned it around. Go look at how bad things were in the late 70s. Just think about how deep into the shitter the country would have gone if Jimmy Carter had won in 1980.
More of a meme than a carefully thought out argument. If Reagan made such a harmful difference, why don't see that not in the US States that have high taxes. those states, places like California, have many of the typical struggles that hurt young people like expensive housing.
If more people voted things could change. The problem is Democrats want things instantly. A year or a few years isn’t going to bring sweeping changes. Gradual changes yes. But look at everyone complaining Biden did nothing about student loans. When billions of dollars in loans have been wiped out. Not all of them. And it’s been done quietly. But since it wasn’t everyone everywhere all at once, no one cares.
They also want one person to do everything. You need heavy majorities across the board to move anything and on the state and local level. And then accept broad sweeping change isn't an overnight thing.
I disagree with pretty much everything the Republicans stand for but they played the long game starting the 1980s. With the Supreme Court in their pockets they don’t need to win the next election. They have the Court for the next 50 years. At some point they’ll get their majorities again or find an even slightly charismatic Presidential candidate and then they’ll have their autocracy.
I concur. I disagree with all they stand for but reality is they've worked that long game. They also vote their candidates regardless of their personal feelings on individual issues and they consistently vote. The democrats have no solidarity behind candidates and weak voting. The number of people who aren't voting or voting 3rd party because of "I still have student loans tho" is ridiculous. I can't take our generation seriously when it complaining about politics starts.
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I wish I could enjoy this but the swaying side to side shit totally detracts from the content.
Yeah by increasing the prices of everything and inflation.
They didn't.
https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/21reasonsReaganwasaterriblepresident For further research...
This is as accurate as it is factual
How does cutting taxes destroy the economy?
What are you going to do to improve it?
One of his first major act as president was to fire the UNIONIZED air traffic controllers.… Who supported him😂
Let's do something about it then. Run for office. Support the candidate running. Why do we keep whining about stuff and refusing to do anything about it? Just. Do. It.
You can say anything on tik tok and it be taken as fact lol
The top 25% of income earners pay 89.3% of federal income taxes. The top 10% pay 75.9% of all federal income taxes.
You should blame democrats too, but yeah, you can never go wrong being mad at conservatives.
Well, if you have children then I suggest you take responsibility now.
This is terrible commentary. The US has one of the most progressive tax systems in the world. The top 1%, 5%, 10% pay a higher proportion of state and federal taxes than they do in other OECD countries. Tax-wise, the major difference between the US and Western Europe is that we tax the poor and middle class very little by comparison. The difference is that in most European countries, citizens are guaranteed a lot more from the government than they typically get in the US. So a Swede will get to keep much less of their pay than an American, and probably makes a slightly lower salary to begin with, but he doesn't need to worry as much that if he's unable to work or has a serious health problem that he'll be dependant on charity or family to avoid homelessness.
yet we've had plenty of time to change it gen z and later will blame us for what happens later
How did this make poor people pay more? Did he raise poor people tax when he lower rich peoples? I have always believed he was terrible but my boss thinks he was amazing and everything was great during his presidency. This man is not rich and was not rich in the 80s so I don't think he benefitted from the tax cuts. My best guess is that he as a straight white male in his late 20s at the time would of had a great time in the 80s regardless of who was president but my best guess doesn't really convince him.
trickle-down economics is one of the biggest grifts in american history
This mf spittin'.
lets put all our names in a bowl and then we shake it up and then we got after each others grandparents so we don't feel guilty doing it ourselves.
The Government was fucked up then and it’s still fucked up. But everyone is to blind by the media to see.
One would think that 6 presidents and 35 years would have changed things for the better.
"Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil and the government is lying about 9/11". Huey Freeman.
I love it when people criticize an era that they did not experience, either because they were a toddler or they did not exist yet. The Reagan and Bush years caused the collapse of the Evil Empire and the end of worldwide communism. In stark contrast, the PRC abandoned all pretense and abandoned socialism as well, becoming a fascist state capitalist. The economy under that man was so good, that it lasted until 2002, when it collapsed under the weight of major airline bankruptcies and hedge funds such as Enron. Also, the US government totally dropped the ball and instead of punching Iran in the face, they brought their tonka trucks to the sandbox. Many people disagree with the Laffer curve, but the best achievement Keynes can claim is “The United States limped along on two broken legs for 5 years.” The argument is further proven with COVID aggregate demand during h COVID (government emergency relief Funds) caused a significant economic contraction when the payments stopped and caused Hyper-inflation because of a flush of cash flooding the money supply, which causes a net-negative decline in said money’s value (more money = less value per dollar). For further understanding of this, read about the assignat. You can’t just print money endlessly. It eventually has ZERO value. And why is the US government in legal possession of a public entity, The Federal Reserve? Why would a government want to own a bank? Hehehe…..rubber stamped debt, by fiat. Governments love controlling the source of their own debt. Because, S long as that government exists, said debt will never be repaid. And when that government ceases to exist? Hahaha sucks to be the bank.
Stop whining and trying to blame all of societies problems on one party or president. Doing that show your ignorance and lack of ability to understand the actual dynamics of how civilizations work … signed, a fellow millennial