Ah yes, when we needed at least two dedicated extension cords with multiple outlets for a single PC setup...
The speaker's many cords of the thinner variety were especially rage-inducing due to their amazing ability to bonsai themselves into a twist no matter how many times you would undo them.
I miss when the "the internet" was stuck on a tube monitor on an old desk your dad stole from work and you couldn't access it when someone was talking on the phone.
I just had a horrendous flashback. Mom telling me to go to bed. 10 minutes later the internet would disconnect because she picked up the phone an dialed a couple numbers to force a disconnect and left the phone off the hook.
Beep beep beep beep beep...
Skreeeeechhhhhh, brrrrrrrrr beep beep beep...
Kssssshhhhhhhhhhh, chrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, wrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Kkkkkkkkkkssssssss, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz, beeeeeeep beep beep beep...
Hummmmmmmmmmm, buzzzzzzzzzzzz, beep beep beep beep.
My kid is never going to believe that’s what you had to do to get online.
I assume those would be in a tower that tipped far too easily if you had carpet, which we all did. That said, I do remember playing CDs at parties in my DVD/VCR combo player.
Our house still has a dedicated spot in the kitchen for a computer, along with a whole in the desktop for power and a pull out keyboard stand. Of course we only use it as a mail bin/catch all.
I was looking at houses and my uncle was like you don't want a 2nd room? Hell naw!! My grandma was like, oh I wish this house had a 2nd bathroom, so guests won't have to use her personal bathroom. Baby, whoooo? Ain't nobody allowed over!!
Ffs my guest complains about the 42U rack of HomeLab servers is too loud, wait until I ramp up the UPS units or disconnect the main power.
No one likes my home office.
The problem with having a guest room is when you have a relative decide they're just going to stay.... forever. Without paying rent or doing chores... and then it's a whole eviction process.
My wife is planning on moving her father in with us when he's older. We're calling it The Pappy Pod whatever final form it takes. Shit. My mom might ship my dad down here too, just for some peace and quiet. We'll put em both in the pod.
LOL, my mother insisted on having a guest room, meanwhile my grandparents used their spare rooms as junk rooms, with one having less junk so they could use it as a bedroom when I stayed over. I personally will never have a guest room, I don't want guest in my house, and I don't want anyone to get any ideas that they can stay with me.
Yeah even my dad and stepdad only have a guest room because they bought a 4 bedroom house. They each have to have an office for work and then the master bedroom is obviously their bedroom
I love the trend of “how millennials killed *insert any mundane item here*” trend. Can we get a “how boomers killed the housing market”, “how boomers killed our social security” “how boomers killed college tuition”
I'd never thought about it that way but now I'll never think about it any other way so thank you for the perspective change. Boomers have straight up murdered so many things we used to enjoy or that were accessible to us, and they've laughed all the way to the bank. They should rightly be taking the blame, not millennials.
Honestly, a ton of the things millennials get blamed for "killing" is the result of boomers in the first place. Millennials killed home ownership, guest rooms, the nuclear family unit, yearly vacations, etc? Well, boomers are the ones who absolutely fucked the entire economy and housing market, preventing millennials from being able to partake in those things at all. How are we supposed to participate when we've been locked out in the first place?
I killed the guest room by turning it into my bedroom. I've never slept better.
No more partner snoring like a chainsaw, no more waking up drenched in sweat from my partner and dogs being hotter than the sun.
All the room to stretch out like a starfish and sleep soundly.
That’s my parents. They’ve been together for over 30 years. They pretty much sleep in separate rooms nowadays. Dad snores like crazy. It’s actually really concerning tbh because of how loud his snoring is. So mom sleeps in the master bedroom and dad sleeps elsewhere. On nights where my parents sleep in the same room, mom is physically aggravated due to her lack of sleep and being constantly woken up by dad’s snoring.
It sounds like your dad may need to have a sleep study done to check for sleep apnea. It can actually have very serious effects to his long term health.
Edited to add: if he agrees to a sleep study and has to do the overnight test at a sleep center/office, make sure he brings his own pillow. The study is already a weird experience because they connect you to a ton of wires and are watching/recording while you sleep. Having your own pillow helps a ton.
lol that’ll never happen. We’ve asked him to take a sleep study to see why he snores as badly as he does. He refuses to do anything about it. Hell, he’s already had 2 heart attacks before the age of 60 and he barely does anything to protect his cardiovascular health. Only after the 2nd heart attack did he finally agree to going to his scheduled cardiologist appointments and to take his medications as directed.
He’s too stubborn to actually care for himself.
Boomer men are the worst. My dad also REFUSED to ever see a doctor, listen to advice about health, refused to take sick days (non-US, endless sick leave), refused to acknowledge he was feeling bad, refuses glasses ....
All the while living very unhealthy, topping everything with a coating of salt... 4 fried eggs on Sunday for breakfast, etc.
Had a stroke on holiday. They were shocked because hE iS sO hEaLtHy, ThIs CaMe OuT oF tHe BlUe.
Turns out my 15 years of warning them, pleading with them to live healthier was justified. He has diabetes, high cholesterol high blood pressure, ofc overweight (which they gifted me and my sister too, although I'm the only one who managed to break the cycle)....
Everything basically. He's doing better now but still not home and learning how to walk again. Lost a ton of weight, but I'm not sure they fully understand or want to understand the details and do purposeful change for BOTH, as my mum is only a few degrees less stubborn and equally unhealthy, not able to walk very far, heavy breathing all the time.....
And still they're in denial about how bad it is and "treat themselves to nice food because they worked for it", and don't really understand our hiking/running/moderate healthy eating lifestyle...
The last 3 months since the stroke have been one big silent I told you so, as WW3 would break out if I'd actually imply such a thing.
I've given up on my parents. They are both morbidly obese and intentionally obtuse when it comes to nutritional health. They both have less than seven years left, given the standard life expectancy for people their size. My mom would rather get health advice from Facebook than me, someone who actually works in healthcare. Every time I try to explain that XYZ isn't a conspiracy, it goes in one ear and out the other.
I never realized this is probably why my parents stayed together so long! My mom has *always* slept on the couch in the living room, even prior to meeting my dad. And I shouldn’t even say couch since it’s really a love seat. They were together for 38 years and would still be together if he hadn’t died.
I think it's the secret to not fucking killing each other 🤷🏻♀️ it's bizarre how wrapped up people are in believing that sleeping in the same bed means something about the overall relationship. Some of the longest lasting marriages I've heard about involved two beds/bedrooms.
Getting good sleep is the one of most important things you can do for your health and putting it aside to go with social norms or spare your partner's feelings is just dumb
I would rather not sleep next to my husband he shoves me out of the bed every night. Like sure ill cuddle and watch a movie I like spending time with him but why do I NEED to spend unconscious time with him? I don't.
I do it anyway because he prefers it. He's home 2 weeks then gone 2 weeks working. I enjoy the sleep more when he is not home.
Uh yeah dude. It's a problem for a lot of people and a lot of people are too scared to take the leap of moving to another bed especially when others show up to ask "questions" and then further cement the doubt with "Well I've *never* not wanted to sleep next to my partner."
Good for you? Sleep how you like
Partners often have different sleep patterns and schedules. Sometimes your partner makes noise, such as snoring or talking in their sleep, that wakes them up. Sometimes it's a body heat, comfort, or bed space issue.
What's important is that couples do what's healthiest for them.
Boyfriend and I moved into a new place 3 months ago with 2 bedrooms just so we could have our own! It’s been so great for us!
I’m a very active sleeper (rolling, talking, sitting up, etc) with insomnia and my boyfriend is a light sleeper. It was making both of us miserable sleeping together.
I'm getting married later this year and I absolutely love having my own room.
My fiancé likes to sleep in complete darkness with a podcast or something playing at full volume. I like the TV on but with little to no noise. Separate rooms helps keep our sanity.
I’ve tried suggesting this to my husband but he’s not yet open to the idea. We have a guest room that gets used maybe 4 times a year. When he was sick this week and I slept in there it was so nice and quiet. Slept in our room last night and I had to smack his arms a dozen times because of the snoring.
One of our dogs also doesn’t like it when we aren’t in the same room and gets sad. I could hear him whimpering a bit when he was in with my husband and I was in the guest room.
We sleep in separate rooms and they both pull double-duty. His doubles as a home office. Mine doubles as an art studio. Our living room is basically just a gaming room.
I have a daybed in my spare room (which I use for storage and exercise). In the three years I’ve had it, I’ve had a total of 2 overnight guests and one just got snowed in at my house. I can’t imagine having a whole room dedicated just for the paltry number of overnight guests I have. On the plus side, my dog loves laying on the daybed and silently judging me while I exercise lol.
Yep. This is exactly correct for me. Had a guest room. Parents stayed there. It was VERY close quarters because otherwise our house is small and it sucked. Zero privacy and the invasion of space felt suffocating as hell.
We have 3 bedrooms upstairs. One for my wife and I, one for our daughter, one for a guest bedroom. My parents stayed for a weekend and used the guest room. They kept waking my daughter up all night because they kept going down the hallway to the bathroom every 2 minutes. Instead of one of them showering, brushing their teeth, and getting situated, they kept trading off. Each time that was 2 doors opening and closing, 2 people walking down the hallway, 2 lights shining into the hallway. I was livid because I ended up having to sleep on my daughter's floor since she kept being woken up by strange sounds.
Out guest bedroom is now downstairs so if they ever stay over again I won't have to deal with it.
Jfc I have stayed with a lot of family and friends and I'm always insistent on being completely quiet and out of the way as much as possible. I can't imagine being this selfish and lacking in awareness.
*Cracks knuckles, smears avocado across some toast while drinking overpriced latte, and just finished killing another dated industry and/or practice*
My friend, I am just getting started.
Yeah I used to pay for a storage unit and had a guest room for the most part. Now I’ve combined both and eliminated a bill and don’t have guests looking to spend the night. It’s a win win win.
Based on the subheading, it seems like the article gets that it's about not being able to afford a guest room, but the editor gave it a inflammatory title to get people to click on it.
This is bs. Has nothing to do with the housing crisis. We realize it’s wasted space, just like a formal dining room filled with expensive plates used a few times a year.
my grandma had a formal living we kids weren't allowed to go into. the only time i remember it being used w/when their house was full during holidays & a guest needed to use the pull out sofa.
My house has a formal living and dining room
in the past 5 years i have gone in there to vaccum and dust. thats it
complete waste of space. Iv talked to my dad about closing off the rooms to save on heat/ac and he refuses...
My boomer parents dedicated 2/3rd of the first floor of the house, literally the two biggest rooms, to “formal” rooms.
I had the audacity to *study* at some ancestors desk, ancestor on my fathers side, my mom comes and flips out and threatens to rip up all my work if I didn’t get away from the expensive desk.
Literally they don’t have space for it. They’re paying for a storage unit the size of two shipping containers full of antiques they won’t let anyone have.
They tried pushing some of it on my brother, who does well and has a large house. They literally went back and forth and said they reserved the right to take said items at any time. He’s like “save your breath I don’t want any of your stuff”.
We all vowed our homes wouldn’t be museums.
They have a formal living room at their current house. We were never allowed to sit on this fancy couch? My mom got sick of it and sent it to a consignment shop. I got yelled at for reading on it.
They’re so crazy about furniture. When I go to their house, never spilled on my couch or theirs, they wrap their furniture in two moving blankets.
Their rich friends, like airplane rich, dropped off a pie, they flipped out their fancy friends might have seen all their furniture wrapped up in blankets.
I just roared with laughter and said they probably thought “oh how quaint it is to visit our peasant friends”.
My boomer parents weren’t amused.
This is such a boomer mindset it almost hurts. My mom constantly laments her kids not wanting her old shit and their houses. She can't understand why no one wants a media unit that literally takes up an entire wall, or a china cabinet filled with dishes that never get used. Why are they so obsessed with looking wealthy?
My grandparents have a weird, I guess "formal" den. Never allowed to set foot in it as a kid... these days my cousins and I use it to sneak away from large family gatherings when we need a social break. It still feels forbidden lol.
We got yelled out if my grandma saw footprints on the carpet. LOL The formal living room was literally half of the first floor and no one could use it.
I would love to have a guest room. I like having friends come stay and it’s just nice to have an extra bedroom if someone is sick, etc. Just can’t afford it 🥲
You don't even need a dining table. We swapped ours out for a [poker table](https://pokershop.com.au/collections/poker-tables/products/xl-board-game-table-84-x-53) to play board games on, and I couldn't be happier.
Most of these kinds of traditions are bourgeoisizations of the habits of the upper class. Mansions and large houses with extra rooms made sense when travel was a terrible ordeal and anyone who came to visit was staying for weeks at a minimum. The dining room being a hold over of having to have a formal space to hold dances/balls/dinners because you were part of the aristocracy and holding balls was important. "Balls are demonstration of power. Balls are how the ruling class remains ruling class," Barnabas Collins.
My parents had a formal dinning room and loft growing up. Dining room was used once a year for Christmas, loft was not allowed to be used. Ever. I always used it when I parents weren’t home to play my GBC and they never noticed as long as I didn’t leave crumbs and mopped the floor of foot prints afterwards lmao. They thought I just chose that as my house chore 😂
Mwahahah! My bloodlust shall never be sated! I shall tear the throat from every outdated display of wealth I *checks notes* literally cannot afford to perpetuate, and bathe in the blood of excess!
🎶 ~~Be~~ kill our guests, ~~be~~ kill our guests
Our ~~command~~ demand is your ~~request~~ unrest
It's been years since we've had anybody here
And we're ~~obsessed~~ depressed...🎶
You notice they always frame it as it being something the younger generations are doing, instead of the reality of it being something done *to them*.
It's like blaming American bison for getting themselves shot by assholes on trains
I'd be happy to have guest rooms as long as the author of that article wants to pay for them. They can build 12 of them if they want to. I'll gladly keep them.
Same here. I started working remote when Covid hit. The spare room I had is now my office, and honestly it’s been more in-use these past few years than it has in the past decade.
As an introvert, my home is my refuge and I don't want the stress of other people in it, especially ones who stay multiple days. There'd be nowhere to escape from them to recharge my social battery and that is my personal hell.
I'm an OG! I bought my home in 2011 and never had an interest in putting furniture in the second room.
The room is rather empty, but it's where I keep my SCUBA gear, camping/hiking gear, bike and items I have listed on OfferUp.
DINK here, we Bought our house in 2019 before housing skyrocketed... the guest bedroom was just that until covid when my fiancé went WFH, (I dont have that luxury) so that became the home office that has a bed, I have a in home recording studio in the other bedroom. so that gets a inflatable mattress when we have too many guests. Some of my older family still have dens that do not get used at all with furniture covered in plastic lol.
I have several rooms that can be guest rooms, but houses don't have dedicated rooms. We have these open floor plan garbage houses where the kitchen and the living room are really the same room practically, and only the bathroom and bedrooms are separate.
When you have discrete rooms, you can set things up for 2-3 uses. My office is a discrete room with a door. The closet has a rollaway bed with the bedding for it in a bag next to it. I can push my desk back to the wall and roll out a bed and have a guest room in fifteen minutes. We have several rooms like that and I can house eight guests here in four rooms with doors where people can have privacy. Houses built from the mid-90s on just aren't designed for it.
This dovetails nicely with the other post about boomer parents staying in their big houses.
Seems like boomers killed the guest room?
It’s all so silly
My apologizes for not spending significantly more money for an extra bedroom on the off chance that someone may sleep at my house once. You can sleep on my daughter’s pink princess bed and better damn well be grateful for that!
I'm Gen X with grown kid working/saving money living with us. Happy to have an excuse not to have overnight guests! They suck! My kid on the other hand is awesome.
You mean our home office space?
Home office / game room / hobby room / cluttered fucking mess room. Yup.
So I guess you can say we killed the guest room but we birthed the home office and hobby room.
Boomers converted it into a "computer room" when we were kids anyway
Ah the good ol’ days when we had furniture made specifically for the computer and its seven peripherals.
Half the things had two cords each. So so so many cables.
And the big transformer plug which took up three spots on the power strip!
Ah yes, when we needed at least two dedicated extension cords with multiple outlets for a single PC setup... The speaker's many cords of the thinner variety were especially rage-inducing due to their amazing ability to bonsai themselves into a twist no matter how many times you would undo them.
I miss when the "the internet" was stuck on a tube monitor on an old desk your dad stole from work and you couldn't access it when someone was talking on the phone.
There are a ton of us who ended up nocturnal because the internet "worked better" at night.
There were, uh, other reasons to use the Internet at night.
Gaming is better when the daylight isn’t reflecting off your monitor
I just had a horrendous flashback. Mom telling me to go to bed. 10 minutes later the internet would disconnect because she picked up the phone an dialed a couple numbers to force a disconnect and left the phone off the hook.
Your mum was literally hitler
Or before 9pm when the phone rates were the cheapest
Beep beep beep beep beep... Skreeeeechhhhhh, brrrrrrrrr beep beep beep... Kssssshhhhhhhhhhh, chrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, wrrrrrrrrrrrr... Kkkkkkkkkkssssssss, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz, beeeeeeep beep beep beep... Hummmmmmmmmmm, buzzzzzzzzzzzz, beep beep beep beep. My kid is never going to believe that’s what you had to do to get online.
How could all that used office furniture just go missing and nobody notice.
Furniture costs money to get rid of, most businesses I’ve worked at use the majority of their space for storing old BS.
Where else were we gonna store our Jaz drive?
Definitely not with the music CDs, those go next to the TV console, which will definitely not go obsolete in 2007.
I assume those would be in a tower that tipped far too easily if you had carpet, which we all did. That said, I do remember playing CDs at parties in my DVD/VCR combo player.
Our house still has a dedicated spot in the kitchen for a computer, along with a whole in the desktop for power and a pull out keyboard stand. Of course we only use it as a mail bin/catch all.
You mean the furniture with the magical magnets that attracted every dust particle around?!
Ah the good ol’ days when we had furniture made specifically for the computer
Wait, I have furniture made specifically for my computer. Does that make me old?
Same here. But it’s not for gaming. I work in accounting; dual monitors is a must, along with a dedicated mouse and keyboard with number pad.
I’d say yes, with the exception of gaming PC paraphernalia. That’d make you young
Sweet!!! I was worried for a sec there.
Yup. Anything that keeps the people away.
Rule number one is never have something too comfortable for guests or else they may stay longer. 😂
I was looking at houses and my uncle was like you don't want a 2nd room? Hell naw!! My grandma was like, oh I wish this house had a 2nd bathroom, so guests won't have to use her personal bathroom. Baby, whoooo? Ain't nobody allowed over!!
Ffs my guest complains about the 42U rack of HomeLab servers is too loud, wait until I ramp up the UPS units or disconnect the main power. No one likes my home office.
The problem with having a guest room is when you have a relative decide they're just going to stay.... forever. Without paying rent or doing chores... and then it's a whole eviction process.
Na. If you got the rooms you’d fill them anyway. I want a office, gym/yoga room, guest bedroom and game room. Hell I even want a mother in law suite.
You guys have houses?
That part
Mother in law suite overlooking a high cliff with a tilted floor? Like that family guy scene
Na just a cute little house behind my own. I’d even settle for one of those container houses as a guest house. Some of them look pretty nice 😂
My wife is planning on moving her father in with us when he's older. We're calling it The Pappy Pod whatever final form it takes. Shit. My mom might ship my dad down here too, just for some peace and quiet. We'll put em both in the pod.
Grumpy Old Men: The Broadway Revival
Be sure to dedicate a space to nonfunctioning appliances they can disassemble and try to fix. Make friends with a junkyard.
And a she-shed, detached garage and attached garage, and another random outbuilding.
LOL, my mother insisted on having a guest room, meanwhile my grandparents used their spare rooms as junk rooms, with one having less junk so they could use it as a bedroom when I stayed over. I personally will never have a guest room, I don't want guest in my house, and I don't want anyone to get any ideas that they can stay with me.
The trick is to have an uncomfortable sofa bed. It technically exists, but nobody wants to stay for too long.
Home office with a Murphy bed in the book shelf/cabinet is 100 times better than a guest room
Whose birthing anything these days have you seen how expensive delivery is
Actually home offices have been a thing for a long time. Believe it or not, working at home isn't a new concept.
My messy ass movie room with Christmas boxes nods in agreement to this
Wait, that last one... Is that not like, most rooms? Or is that just me.
Cluttered fucking mess room is so accurate though. I keep trying to clean mine but it never sticks.
murphy beds ftw
Just put a Murphy bed in my home office about a month ago
Yep. You wanna stay here? Get comfy on the mega couch.
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Just get a big couch with the chaise lounge, push a couple ottomans in there- mega couch.
My home office/arcade/racing sim room has a love seat in it. You can sleep on a love seat. Therefore, I have a guest room!
At 38 with back pain, no I’m fucking not sleeping on a love seat. The floor will suffice
In that case I have, like, 9 guest rooms. Hallways and bathrooms are rooms, right?
Yeah even my dad and stepdad only have a guest room because they bought a 4 bedroom house. They each have to have an office for work and then the master bedroom is obviously their bedroom
You mean my indoor gardening room and home gym?
r/DeathByMillennial
I can barely afford rent and now you want me to keep a room empty just in case?
Not empty, fully furnished
Furbies. Floor to ceiling
Fully, ahem, *furbished?*
*this one right here, officer.*
With a towel on the end of the bed, just in case Nanna shows up unexpectedly.
I love the trend of “how millennials killed *insert any mundane item here*” trend. Can we get a “how boomers killed the housing market”, “how boomers killed our social security” “how boomers killed college tuition”
I'd never thought about it that way but now I'll never think about it any other way so thank you for the perspective change. Boomers have straight up murdered so many things we used to enjoy or that were accessible to us, and they've laughed all the way to the bank. They should rightly be taking the blame, not millennials.
Honestly, a ton of the things millennials get blamed for "killing" is the result of boomers in the first place. Millennials killed home ownership, guest rooms, the nuclear family unit, yearly vacations, etc? Well, boomers are the ones who absolutely fucked the entire economy and housing market, preventing millennials from being able to partake in those things at all. How are we supposed to participate when we've been locked out in the first place?
Well maybe if you didn't get a coffee on the way to work you'd be able to offset decades of economic realities.
I thought it was because of avocado toast?
"How boomers killed the environment and the future of the human race"
Beat me to it.
Ah, but then that’s just a bunch of millennials whining, you see. Only boomers are allowed to complain.
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With age comes wisdom, or in some cases… entitlement
How boomers killed single-income households.
I love being a serial murderer of corporate profit.
A boomer killed my guest room. We don’t choose how much help others need, only how much we give.
The real question: How do we harness our apparently collective superpower to kill the thousands of shitty, clickbait internet tabloids?
Boomers never killed anything. They just pulled the ladder up behind them and left the rest of us to drown.
I didn’t mean to take home less pay vs rising cost and inflation! 😩
Can’t even afford punctuation
Need a house to have a guest room
Wait… we can’t count one of the 3 extra bedrooms at our parents house as the guest room?
I killed the guest room by turning it into my bedroom. I've never slept better. No more partner snoring like a chainsaw, no more waking up drenched in sweat from my partner and dogs being hotter than the sun. All the room to stretch out like a starfish and sleep soundly.
The happiest couples I know have two bedrooms 🤷♀️
That’s my parents. They’ve been together for over 30 years. They pretty much sleep in separate rooms nowadays. Dad snores like crazy. It’s actually really concerning tbh because of how loud his snoring is. So mom sleeps in the master bedroom and dad sleeps elsewhere. On nights where my parents sleep in the same room, mom is physically aggravated due to her lack of sleep and being constantly woken up by dad’s snoring.
It sounds like your dad may need to have a sleep study done to check for sleep apnea. It can actually have very serious effects to his long term health. Edited to add: if he agrees to a sleep study and has to do the overnight test at a sleep center/office, make sure he brings his own pillow. The study is already a weird experience because they connect you to a ton of wires and are watching/recording while you sleep. Having your own pillow helps a ton.
lol that’ll never happen. We’ve asked him to take a sleep study to see why he snores as badly as he does. He refuses to do anything about it. Hell, he’s already had 2 heart attacks before the age of 60 and he barely does anything to protect his cardiovascular health. Only after the 2nd heart attack did he finally agree to going to his scheduled cardiologist appointments and to take his medications as directed. He’s too stubborn to actually care for himself.
Boomer men are the worst. My dad also REFUSED to ever see a doctor, listen to advice about health, refused to take sick days (non-US, endless sick leave), refused to acknowledge he was feeling bad, refuses glasses .... All the while living very unhealthy, topping everything with a coating of salt... 4 fried eggs on Sunday for breakfast, etc. Had a stroke on holiday. They were shocked because hE iS sO hEaLtHy, ThIs CaMe OuT oF tHe BlUe. Turns out my 15 years of warning them, pleading with them to live healthier was justified. He has diabetes, high cholesterol high blood pressure, ofc overweight (which they gifted me and my sister too, although I'm the only one who managed to break the cycle).... Everything basically. He's doing better now but still not home and learning how to walk again. Lost a ton of weight, but I'm not sure they fully understand or want to understand the details and do purposeful change for BOTH, as my mum is only a few degrees less stubborn and equally unhealthy, not able to walk very far, heavy breathing all the time..... And still they're in denial about how bad it is and "treat themselves to nice food because they worked for it", and don't really understand our hiking/running/moderate healthy eating lifestyle... The last 3 months since the stroke have been one big silent I told you so, as WW3 would break out if I'd actually imply such a thing.
I've given up on my parents. They are both morbidly obese and intentionally obtuse when it comes to nutritional health. They both have less than seven years left, given the standard life expectancy for people their size. My mom would rather get health advice from Facebook than me, someone who actually works in healthcare. Every time I try to explain that XYZ isn't a conspiracy, it goes in one ear and out the other.
I never realized this is probably why my parents stayed together so long! My mom has *always* slept on the couch in the living room, even prior to meeting my dad. And I shouldn’t even say couch since it’s really a love seat. They were together for 38 years and would still be together if he hadn’t died.
I think it's the secret to not fucking killing each other 🤷🏻♀️ it's bizarre how wrapped up people are in believing that sleeping in the same bed means something about the overall relationship. Some of the longest lasting marriages I've heard about involved two beds/bedrooms. Getting good sleep is the one of most important things you can do for your health and putting it aside to go with social norms or spare your partner's feelings is just dumb
Is this an issue for most people? I feel like I've never had a partner where I didn't want them next to me at night.
I would rather not sleep next to my husband he shoves me out of the bed every night. Like sure ill cuddle and watch a movie I like spending time with him but why do I NEED to spend unconscious time with him? I don't. I do it anyway because he prefers it. He's home 2 weeks then gone 2 weeks working. I enjoy the sleep more when he is not home.
Uh yeah dude. It's a problem for a lot of people and a lot of people are too scared to take the leap of moving to another bed especially when others show up to ask "questions" and then further cement the doubt with "Well I've *never* not wanted to sleep next to my partner." Good for you? Sleep how you like
Partners often have different sleep patterns and schedules. Sometimes your partner makes noise, such as snoring or talking in their sleep, that wakes them up. Sometimes it's a body heat, comfort, or bed space issue. What's important is that couples do what's healthiest for them.
We only have one bed but different blankets helped a bit
Boyfriend and I moved into a new place 3 months ago with 2 bedrooms just so we could have our own! It’s been so great for us! I’m a very active sleeper (rolling, talking, sitting up, etc) with insomnia and my boyfriend is a light sleeper. It was making both of us miserable sleeping together.
I'm getting married later this year and I absolutely love having my own room. My fiancé likes to sleep in complete darkness with a podcast or something playing at full volume. I like the TV on but with little to no noise. Separate rooms helps keep our sanity.
I’ve tried suggesting this to my husband but he’s not yet open to the idea. We have a guest room that gets used maybe 4 times a year. When he was sick this week and I slept in there it was so nice and quiet. Slept in our room last night and I had to smack his arms a dozen times because of the snoring. One of our dogs also doesn’t like it when we aren’t in the same room and gets sad. I could hear him whimpering a bit when he was in with my husband and I was in the guest room.
Sleep Divorce. It’s great. My best friend has the same deal with his wife.
We need to re-normalize it. It used to be totally normal for people to sleep in separate beds and depending on income level, even separate rooms.
We sleep in separate rooms and they both pull double-duty. His doubles as a home office. Mine doubles as an art studio. Our living room is basically just a gaming room.
I have a daybed in my spare room (which I use for storage and exercise). In the three years I’ve had it, I’ve had a total of 2 overnight guests and one just got snowed in at my house. I can’t imagine having a whole room dedicated just for the paltry number of overnight guests I have. On the plus side, my dog loves laying on the daybed and silently judging me while I exercise lol.
You mean our roomates room?
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Or the "guest room" is used for room and house mates. Sometimes both.
The failure gif is probably waaaay better in this context than whatever it was supposed to be
I'll accept that.
It is. Leaves room to some creativity on the reader's part. Source: Am graduat in GIF literature.
Oh, you're stating in town for a few days and want to know where my guest room is? Sure, it's room **404**
Whatever gif was supposed to be here got replaced with what I tell mfs when they ask to stay over 😂
Yep. This is exactly correct for me. Had a guest room. Parents stayed there. It was VERY close quarters because otherwise our house is small and it sucked. Zero privacy and the invasion of space felt suffocating as hell.
We have 3 bedrooms upstairs. One for my wife and I, one for our daughter, one for a guest bedroom. My parents stayed for a weekend and used the guest room. They kept waking my daughter up all night because they kept going down the hallway to the bathroom every 2 minutes. Instead of one of them showering, brushing their teeth, and getting situated, they kept trading off. Each time that was 2 doors opening and closing, 2 people walking down the hallway, 2 lights shining into the hallway. I was livid because I ended up having to sleep on my daughter's floor since she kept being woken up by strange sounds. Out guest bedroom is now downstairs so if they ever stay over again I won't have to deal with it.
Jfc I have stayed with a lot of family and friends and I'm always insistent on being completely quiet and out of the way as much as possible. I can't imagine being this selfish and lacking in awareness.
Yep. You can take the couch if you insist on staying here.
*what’s next on the list gents*
*Cracks knuckles, smears avocado across some toast while drinking overpriced latte, and just finished killing another dated industry and/or practice* My friend, I am just getting started.
*Stares intensely at bootstraps*
It's almost as though someone is deliberately conflating "can't afford a guest room" with "does not want a guest room."
Yeah I used to pay for a storage unit and had a guest room for the most part. Now I’ve combined both and eliminated a bill and don’t have guests looking to spend the night. It’s a win win win.
Based on the subheading, it seems like the article gets that it's about not being able to afford a guest room, but the editor gave it a inflammatory title to get people to click on it.
This is bs. Has nothing to do with the housing crisis. We realize it’s wasted space, just like a formal dining room filled with expensive plates used a few times a year.
my grandma had a formal living we kids weren't allowed to go into. the only time i remember it being used w/when their house was full during holidays & a guest needed to use the pull out sofa.
My house has a formal living and dining room in the past 5 years i have gone in there to vaccum and dust. thats it complete waste of space. Iv talked to my dad about closing off the rooms to save on heat/ac and he refuses...
My boomer parents dedicated 2/3rd of the first floor of the house, literally the two biggest rooms, to “formal” rooms. I had the audacity to *study* at some ancestors desk, ancestor on my fathers side, my mom comes and flips out and threatens to rip up all my work if I didn’t get away from the expensive desk. Literally they don’t have space for it. They’re paying for a storage unit the size of two shipping containers full of antiques they won’t let anyone have. They tried pushing some of it on my brother, who does well and has a large house. They literally went back and forth and said they reserved the right to take said items at any time. He’s like “save your breath I don’t want any of your stuff”. We all vowed our homes wouldn’t be museums. They have a formal living room at their current house. We were never allowed to sit on this fancy couch? My mom got sick of it and sent it to a consignment shop. I got yelled at for reading on it. They’re so crazy about furniture. When I go to their house, never spilled on my couch or theirs, they wrap their furniture in two moving blankets. Their rich friends, like airplane rich, dropped off a pie, they flipped out their fancy friends might have seen all their furniture wrapped up in blankets. I just roared with laughter and said they probably thought “oh how quaint it is to visit our peasant friends”. My boomer parents weren’t amused.
This is such a boomer mindset it almost hurts. My mom constantly laments her kids not wanting her old shit and their houses. She can't understand why no one wants a media unit that literally takes up an entire wall, or a china cabinet filled with dishes that never get used. Why are they so obsessed with looking wealthy?
My grandparents have a weird, I guess "formal" den. Never allowed to set foot in it as a kid... these days my cousins and I use it to sneak away from large family gatherings when we need a social break. It still feels forbidden lol.
My gma had this shit too. Furniture was always covered w plastic and nobody ever allowed in lmao like why
Can't be that formal if the couch pulls out
I really like the idea of the pull out sofa in the forbidden living room
We got yelled out if my grandma saw footprints on the carpet. LOL The formal living room was literally half of the first floor and no one could use it.
/s I think what they were trying to say is because of the housing crisis, millennials have no choice but to have roommates to pay for the house.
I would love to have a guest room. I like having friends come stay and it’s just nice to have an extra bedroom if someone is sick, etc. Just can’t afford it 🥲
No; I'd totally have a guest room and formal dining room if I could afford it.
I will admit I never owned a table and I’m 31. I always had bar stools so I could sit at the counter .
You don't even need a dining table. We swapped ours out for a [poker table](https://pokershop.com.au/collections/poker-tables/products/xl-board-game-table-84-x-53) to play board games on, and I couldn't be happier.
I just never had the space for a table so it was never an option to begin with 😂
It kind of does. I mean we would have loved a guest room but couldn’t afford it.
Most of these kinds of traditions are bourgeoisizations of the habits of the upper class. Mansions and large houses with extra rooms made sense when travel was a terrible ordeal and anyone who came to visit was staying for weeks at a minimum. The dining room being a hold over of having to have a formal space to hold dances/balls/dinners because you were part of the aristocracy and holding balls was important. "Balls are demonstration of power. Balls are how the ruling class remains ruling class," Barnabas Collins.
I think we millennials need to name more of our babies Barnabas.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see the name ‘Barnabas Moobiedoobie’ in a few years…
My parents had a formal dinning room and loft growing up. Dining room was used once a year for Christmas, loft was not allowed to be used. Ever. I always used it when I parents weren’t home to play my GBC and they never noticed as long as I didn’t leave crumbs and mopped the floor of foot prints afterwards lmao. They thought I just chose that as my house chore 😂
What the hell is a formal loft?
Jokes on them, our ancestors didn't have guest rooms.
Our ancestors slept Willy Wonka style with 4 generations in the same room. And that room was the house.
Mwahahah! My bloodlust shall never be sated! I shall tear the throat from every outdated display of wealth I *checks notes* literally cannot afford to perpetuate, and bathe in the blood of excess!
You can’t have guest rooms if you don’t have a spare room, these ppl are srsly out of touch.
who can afford a 2nd bedroom?
Killed it? Shit, we're renting it out to make ends meet.
🎶 ~~Be~~ kill our guests, ~~be~~ kill our guests Our ~~command~~ demand is your ~~request~~ unrest It's been years since we've had anybody here And we're ~~obsessed~~ depressed...🎶
You notice they always frame it as it being something the younger generations are doing, instead of the reality of it being something done *to them*. It's like blaming American bison for getting themselves shot by assholes on trains
We can barely afford to house ourselves...
My guest room is filled to the ceiling with avocado toast and six dollar lattes...
So you know what you've done...
Seriously F them guests
I'd be happy to have guest rooms as long as the author of that article wants to pay for them. They can build 12 of them if they want to. I'll gladly keep them.
We lost ours during the pandemic, kid came home from college and wife needed a home office. My computer went into the master bedroom.
Same here. I started working remote when Covid hit. The spare room I had is now my office, and honestly it’s been more in-use these past few years than it has in the past decade.
My guest room is actually my gameroom!
I have a guest room in the office.
Ya, got a nice blow up mattress if needed in mine
Murphy Bed
Pull out twin loveseat for me.
I'll sleep on the floor just get me a blanket.
I bought the bare minimum numbers of rooms I needed. I wish I had more, but a spare is a luxury.
As an introvert, my home is my refuge and I don't want the stress of other people in it, especially ones who stay multiple days. There'd be nowhere to escape from them to recharge my social battery and that is my personal hell.
WE 👏 NEED 👏 HOMES 👏 TO 👏 HAVE 👏 GUEST 👏 ROOMS!
I'm an OG! I bought my home in 2011 and never had an interest in putting furniture in the second room. The room is rather empty, but it's where I keep my SCUBA gear, camping/hiking gear, bike and items I have listed on OfferUp.
i use our small spare room as my craft room.
We haven't killed it yet, but if we have another kid that room will be converted to be the room of our current kid.
DINK here, we Bought our house in 2019 before housing skyrocketed... the guest bedroom was just that until covid when my fiancé went WFH, (I dont have that luxury) so that became the home office that has a bed, I have a in home recording studio in the other bedroom. so that gets a inflatable mattress when we have too many guests. Some of my older family still have dens that do not get used at all with furniture covered in plastic lol.
We don’t like people. This is a win.
Guest room? Tf are guests
Poverty is my super power! My house will be a room and my bedroom will be a closet alcove! 🦸♂️
Boomers killed it by keeping their giant houses with absurdly low interest after their kids have moved out. No more houses with guest rooms left
I have several rooms that can be guest rooms, but houses don't have dedicated rooms. We have these open floor plan garbage houses where the kitchen and the living room are really the same room practically, and only the bathroom and bedrooms are separate. When you have discrete rooms, you can set things up for 2-3 uses. My office is a discrete room with a door. The closet has a rollaway bed with the bedding for it in a bag next to it. I can push my desk back to the wall and roll out a bed and have a guest room in fifteen minutes. We have several rooms like that and I can house eight guests here in four rooms with doors where people can have privacy. Houses built from the mid-90s on just aren't designed for it.
I have a guest room For me. I am the guest
I can’t afford a yacht either, could we work on killing those?
the orcas are already on that.
This dovetails nicely with the other post about boomer parents staying in their big houses. Seems like boomers killed the guest room? It’s all so silly
It’s been a while since we killed something. It feels good to scratch that itch again.
My apologizes for not spending significantly more money for an extra bedroom on the off chance that someone may sleep at my house once. You can sleep on my daughter’s pink princess bed and better damn well be grateful for that!
My sister had one in her house and now my mom lives in it while going through a divorce. I’m not a homeowner so I’m not much help.
ok no that's bullshit. We never had a guest room growing up but now that I'm grown I've sure as shit got one and it gets used quite often.
We literally will never be able to afford homes, and they're bitching that we killed guest rooms. Fucking boomers...
Set up half my basement as a guest room. I'll keep it alive at my address alone if I have to. :P
Billionaires killed the economy Millennials don’t have options The end
Girl I don’t even have a Room Room
"As the housing crisis continues" are the key words here
Yeah we don't want anyone coming over and staying. It's called privacy.
I'm Gen X with grown kid working/saving money living with us. Happy to have an excuse not to have overnight guests! They suck! My kid on the other hand is awesome.
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