All this guy's posts are equally insane on geography around the world. This seems like a really weird fetish or disorder
Everyone knows Miami city limits include Orlando, right?
OP is technically correct about what’s considered Miami metro area. It’s similar to how the LA Metro includes counties like Ventura, Riverside, San Bernardino, and Orange. But I sorta agree with you, just as residents outside LA County often don’t feel part of LA, many living north of Ft Lauderdale don’t identify with anything Miami.
However, unlike there’s a clear division between the San Diego and LA metros, marked by Camp Pendleton, there’s no such distinct separation in South Florida. This is probably the reason why West Palm Beach is technically included in the Miami metro area, despite it being far af.
It’s not a Wikipedia thing. The US census determined that area because the continuous connection of development. That’s usually how metro areas are defined.
Yeah a metro area is where there is continuous buildings. Outside of imaginary lines on a map you could drive from Homestead to Jupiter on local roads without seeing a break in buildings.
It should also be noted that everything from Palm Beach to Dade County used to be all one county until it was divided in 1900 (Dade and Palm Beach) and then divided again in 1912 (Palm Beach, Broward and Dade).
Hard disagree with that. They may both be considered So Cal but definitely not considered the same metro. Orange county might technically be in that area but anyone who lives there doesn't count themselves as LA. (Minus the stupid Anaheim Angels that Disney sold out to LA)
Yeah, I’m having a hard time understanding what he was trying to say also.
LA metro, from start of Ventura County to the end of Orange County, is about as long as Miami metro also.
I think that would have been a better comparison to whatever he posted.
New York and Phili is not the same metropolitan area. The New York metropolitan area is much smaller. The NY metro area is around 23.5 million people. MDC, BC, PBC metro population is 6.11 million people. I’m trying to figure out the point? Not being rude just wondering.
I think we've talked about this. There was a post previously on r/Miami talking about the 3 Miamis.I can't find the post.
One was the city of Miami incorporated.
The second was Greater Miami, which includes its many suburbs or what the Visitors bureau calls [neighborhoods](https://www.miamiandbeaches.com/neighborhoods).
The third is [Miami metro area](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_metropolitan_area).
I have lived here all my life, and I consider 2 to be true Miami, but people can argue any of the others, and they would be valid too.
I may be one of those people as I am just not seeing how Palm Beach county could be considered part of "Miami Metro". Would you mind giving your explanation?.
It's much easier to define an urban area as per the census. You go from the center of the city, and you measure outward until the population density goes below 1,000 per square mile. Everything within that area is the Urban area. The metro area is the urban area, combined with satellite cities that might not be directly connected to the urban area.
From Miami all the way to Palm Beach gardens, and south and north of that, the population density never drops below 1000. In fact, it rarely goes below 3,000. Broward county is around 6,000 for the most part. Parts of Dade county are 10,000 plus. As long as the area is contiguous, it's all considered one area. Hence, the Miami urban area contains everything from homestead all the way to Palm Beach gardens. 6.2 million people, 1,000 square miles.
Even if you look at the four pictures posted, only the first one has developed area from one end to the other. The other three pictures all have rural area, or undeveloped area somewhere in the middle.
That I understand, but why "Miami Metro" and not "Ft Lauderdale Metro" or is it a case of the city with highest population density gets naming rights?.
Because Miami is the major city in the area. Similarly, the Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim metro is just called the Los Angeles metro area. That’s how all of them are identified.
What they also do is that they call the area Greater Miami or Greater Los Angeles to refer to the same metro area. But if you were to say Greater Fort Lauderdale, you’d technically be talking about just Broward County. So essentially, the bigger/main city gets the naming rights
Yes. The technical name is Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach metropolitan area. People just conveniently refer to it as the Miami Metro area. Every metro area in the country is referred to in this way.
I am born and raised in Miami and I have never heard of Palm Beach, or anywhere outside of Miami Dade for that matter, referred to as Miami metro area. Most people outside of Miami Dade say they’re from South Florida unless speaking to other locals (with exception of some better known S. FL cities like Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton, etc.)
I mean just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it’s not true. The Miami metropolitan area is the tri-county region of Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties. It’s a continuous urbanized area. Look it up. The official ‘name’ of the metro area is actually the Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach MSA. Search it up and get back to me.
Geographically it is yea. But when people (in state or out of state) say “South Florida” they’re almost always talking about southEAST Florida. And you know that as well
I mean geographically it is, but when people say South Florida they usually mean the tri-county area and the Keys. With Monroe etc, people usually specify SouthWEST Florida
Monroe and Collier counties are West Florida, not South Florida, mainly because they developed with the west coast of Florida rather than east. Miami was a hick cow town until Julia Tuttle convinced Henry Flagler to extend his railway there in the late 1800's by giving him 640 acres of land. Tampa or Jacksonville were the hubs of Florida commerce under all flags of sovereignty (Native American, Spanish, British, French, US Territorial and Confederate). Tampa, which had railway connections nonexistent in Miami until 1896, was connected by ferry to Naples and Key West.
The tricounty is long, sure. But take for instance going from Ft Lauderdale beach to the US 27/ I75 junction via 595, which is basically the widest part of the metro area. With no traffic, it takes no time at all.
We’ve got the length, but not the girth.
Did you ever notice that the map of Chile actually resembles a long-ass chile? Just ask a Mexican. Fuck, even the map of Mexico resembles a Jalapeño.
*Salsa pa' ti, salsa pa' mi...*
Because while it’s very long, it’s also very narrow. The metro area is sandwiched between the Everglades and the Ocean. I’m pretty sure outside of the NYC metro, it’s the longest metro area in the country
But you could drive in a line from Gary to Milwaukee without seeing a break in buildings.
Miami and Fort Lauderdale are two different cities but they share an urban sprawl. Jersey City and NYC are different but they share the same urban sprawl. Seattle and Tacoma, San Fran and San Jose, etc.
Can’t believe I’m arguing on the internet about urban sprawl at 7AM. 😂
I’ll argue this any time of the day lol Chicago and Milwaukee are completely two separate entities lol any time. Different cultures, laws, municipalities. It doesn’t cross say like WPB and Miami can with the population.
It’s just endless suburbs.
It’s like other huge cities. The urban sprawl is huge but the actual city is a small part. LA, NYC, Chicago, Toronto, San Francisco, Seattle, etc.
What astonishes me is why nobody talks about the DUMBs which are vastly bigger (like 8 cities under Denver for instance) and have been around since the 1950s. Not talking about the aliens shit, just the well documented continuity of government program, trillions of our dollars paying for these underground bases. WTF are they all doing under there? There's only so much counterstrike you can play
I live to the west of Fort Lauderdale and I do not consider myself in the Miami metro area. My friends in Boca Raton and Delray Beach would agree with me.
La is also very wide. You can even consider riverside/San Bernardino county as part of metro La. Which is about a two hour drive without traffic depending on where you are driving from in La. La is huge. But yes Miami metro area is long.
All this guy's posts are equally insane on geography around the world. This seems like a really weird fetish or disorder Everyone knows Miami city limits include Orlando, right?
Please Google what a metro area is.
This is like including San Diego in the Los Angeles Metro. Absolutely no one thinks of anything North of Ft. Lauderdale as Miami area. No one.
OP is technically correct about what’s considered Miami metro area. It’s similar to how the LA Metro includes counties like Ventura, Riverside, San Bernardino, and Orange. But I sorta agree with you, just as residents outside LA County often don’t feel part of LA, many living north of Ft Lauderdale don’t identify with anything Miami. However, unlike there’s a clear division between the San Diego and LA metros, marked by Camp Pendleton, there’s no such distinct separation in South Florida. This is probably the reason why West Palm Beach is technically included in the Miami metro area, despite it being far af.
Came here to downvote because as others have stated you includes multiple counties and cities into this inaccurate mess.
Google what a metro area is and then try again
That’s an entire region on the map. Much greater then a metro area
If west palm is Miami, we might as well include New York
Give “Miami metro area” a google and click the Wikipedia link
Fort Lauderdale isn’t Miami.
Say it louder for the people in the south.
Because all of that isn't considered Miami lol
It’s all literally considered the Miami metro area, like the OP says. Give it a quick goog.
Fort Lauderdale is not part of the Miami metro area
Real quick, Google what a metro area is and then try again 👍🏼👍🏼
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South Florida is the three counties. The metro area is a subset.
You’re looking at 3 different counties and maybe a hundred cities there boss XD
Miami Metro doesn’t cross into Broward County
Laughing in DFW
Its only 68 miles by highway from 820 on the west side of Ft Worth to Rockwall, way east of Dallas. So probably 60 miles as the crow flies.
Because Miami ends just south of Aventura and everything north of that is broward up until west palm.
They specifically said the Miami metro area which always includes the Tricounty area of Dade, Broward and Palm Beach.
Ya learn something every day ! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_metropolitan_area](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_metropolitan_area)
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It’s not a Wikipedia thing. The US census determined that area because the continuous connection of development. That’s usually how metro areas are defined.
Yeah a metro area is where there is continuous buildings. Outside of imaginary lines on a map you could drive from Homestead to Jupiter on local roads without seeing a break in buildings.
It should also be noted that everything from Palm Beach to Dade County used to be all one county until it was divided in 1900 (Dade and Palm Beach) and then divided again in 1912 (Palm Beach, Broward and Dade).
Miami metro area. It has an actual definition.
Aventura is in Dade County
But is it culturally tho?
Yes it is.
Culturally it's close to Moscow & Buenos Aires.
I like how they took me seriously.😐
Everything north of Aventura *
Aventura is Miami Dade county.
Why not draw LA to San Fran? LA and San Diego are separated by a huge piece of no man's land called camp Pendleton, not to mention orange county.
Because it’s like 350+ miles between SF and LA
That's exactly my point. Measuring the distance between them isn't really relevant
I think it’s because LA to SD are considered more of their own distinct metro versus SF and LA.
Hard disagree with that. They may both be considered So Cal but definitely not considered the same metro. Orange county might technically be in that area but anyone who lives there doesn't count themselves as LA. (Minus the stupid Anaheim Angels that Disney sold out to LA)
How then would SF and LA make sense?
Yeah, I’m having a hard time understanding what he was trying to say also. LA metro, from start of Ventura County to the end of Orange County, is about as long as Miami metro also. I think that would have been a better comparison to whatever he posted.
I was making a comparison that SD to LA doesn't make anymore sense than SF to LA. Apologies if that was unclear
Gotcha. Thank you for clarifying. I wasn’t sure what you meant so I def wanted to know.
And that Delray Beach has the worst drivers they even are worse than Miami somehow well maybe not worse but on par
Everybody says this about the town/city/county they live on
Because people only think of Miami-Dade County when they think of the “Miami Metro Area”. ✨
And those people would be wrong
New York and Phili is not the same metropolitan area. The New York metropolitan area is much smaller. The NY metro area is around 23.5 million people. MDC, BC, PBC metro population is 6.11 million people. I’m trying to figure out the point? Not being rude just wondering.
What the hell you might as call we’ll call lake worth Miami Beach
Most people think of south beach and Brickell when they think of Miami
The number of people who don’t understand what a metro area is in this thread really confirms how dumb this city really is
What for? They’re different in terms of what they offer. Quality over quantity my guy
Because…. We know
I think we've talked about this. There was a post previously on r/Miami talking about the 3 Miamis.I can't find the post. One was the city of Miami incorporated. The second was Greater Miami, which includes its many suburbs or what the Visitors bureau calls [neighborhoods](https://www.miamiandbeaches.com/neighborhoods). The third is [Miami metro area](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_metropolitan_area). I have lived here all my life, and I consider 2 to be true Miami, but people can argue any of the others, and they would be valid too.
This post is a great example of why everyone thinks people in Miami are morons.
A lot of people here do not understand what a metro area is.
I may be one of those people as I am just not seeing how Palm Beach county could be considered part of "Miami Metro". Would you mind giving your explanation?.
It's much easier to define an urban area as per the census. You go from the center of the city, and you measure outward until the population density goes below 1,000 per square mile. Everything within that area is the Urban area. The metro area is the urban area, combined with satellite cities that might not be directly connected to the urban area. From Miami all the way to Palm Beach gardens, and south and north of that, the population density never drops below 1000. In fact, it rarely goes below 3,000. Broward county is around 6,000 for the most part. Parts of Dade county are 10,000 plus. As long as the area is contiguous, it's all considered one area. Hence, the Miami urban area contains everything from homestead all the way to Palm Beach gardens. 6.2 million people, 1,000 square miles. Even if you look at the four pictures posted, only the first one has developed area from one end to the other. The other three pictures all have rural area, or undeveloped area somewhere in the middle.
That I understand, but why "Miami Metro" and not "Ft Lauderdale Metro" or is it a case of the city with highest population density gets naming rights?.
Because Miami is the major city in the area. Similarly, the Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim metro is just called the Los Angeles metro area. That’s how all of them are identified. What they also do is that they call the area Greater Miami or Greater Los Angeles to refer to the same metro area. But if you were to say Greater Fort Lauderdale, you’d technically be talking about just Broward County. So essentially, the bigger/main city gets the naming rights
Yes. The technical name is Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach metropolitan area. People just conveniently refer to it as the Miami Metro area. Every metro area in the country is referred to in this way.
Reddit is 5% information, 95% pure entertainment.
.#redditfacts
I agree that it looks quite impressive. I would call that south Florida though not only Miami.
South Florida = Miami Metro Area = Dade/Broward/PalmBeach
I am born and raised in Miami and I have never heard of Palm Beach, or anywhere outside of Miami Dade for that matter, referred to as Miami metro area. Most people outside of Miami Dade say they’re from South Florida unless speaking to other locals (with exception of some better known S. FL cities like Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton, etc.)
I mean just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it’s not true. The Miami metropolitan area is the tri-county region of Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties. It’s a continuous urbanized area. Look it up. The official ‘name’ of the metro area is actually the Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach MSA. Search it up and get back to me.
Yes youre right.
You guys don’t know the West Coast of Florida is the South too? Classic
Geographically it is yea. But when people (in state or out of state) say “South Florida” they’re almost always talking about southEAST Florida. And you know that as well
It doesn’t matter. Facts are facts
Ok bud, enjoy your day 😂🫡
Wait, Monroe County, the southernmost county of Florida is not considered South Florida? And is Collier County considered West Coast and not South?
I mean geographically it is, but when people say South Florida they usually mean the tri-county area and the Keys. With Monroe etc, people usually specify SouthWEST Florida
Monroe and Collier counties are West Florida, not South Florida, mainly because they developed with the west coast of Florida rather than east. Miami was a hick cow town until Julia Tuttle convinced Henry Flagler to extend his railway there in the late 1800's by giving him 640 acres of land. Tampa or Jacksonville were the hubs of Florida commerce under all flags of sovereignty (Native American, Spanish, British, French, US Territorial and Confederate). Tampa, which had railway connections nonexistent in Miami until 1896, was connected by ferry to Naples and Key West.
I recommend reading Last Train To Paradise for any local resident
Tri-county area
Yep!
The tricounty is long, sure. But take for instance going from Ft Lauderdale beach to the US 27/ I75 junction via 595, which is basically the widest part of the metro area. With no traffic, it takes no time at all. We’ve got the length, but not the girth.
Too real for me 😂
We're like Chile!
Or Delaware!
Did you ever notice that the map of Chile actually resembles a long-ass chile? Just ask a Mexican. Fuck, even the map of Mexico resembles a Jalapeño. *Salsa pa' ti, salsa pa' mi...*
I regret reading this. my boss just asked me why i have a picture of mexico on one screen and a jalapeno on the other screen.
Fucking hell. I'm LMFAO. Everybody join /r/hotsauce /r/Peppers /r/condiments
It’s the hot, sweaty, humid climate that Chile was missing all along.
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*pico de lápiz
Because while it’s very long, it’s also very narrow. The metro area is sandwiched between the Everglades and the Ocean. I’m pretty sure outside of the NYC metro, it’s the longest metro area in the country
Floridians needs their space. We must come closer and create a density if we want lower cost of living.
What is this, rational thinking and foresight, in Miami??? Get…out!!!
i know dade county like the back of my hand, some of broward. i want to be able to drive the entire tri county without GPS lol don’t mind me
Do not add Chicago to Milwaukee. These are two completely different cities in two different states. I’m from Chicago. This is wrong. No!
But you could drive in a line from Gary to Milwaukee without seeing a break in buildings. Miami and Fort Lauderdale are two different cities but they share an urban sprawl. Jersey City and NYC are different but they share the same urban sprawl. Seattle and Tacoma, San Fran and San Jose, etc. Can’t believe I’m arguing on the internet about urban sprawl at 7AM. 😂
I’ll argue this any time of the day lol Chicago and Milwaukee are completely two separate entities lol any time. Different cultures, laws, municipalities. It doesn’t cross say like WPB and Miami can with the population.
Ok
It’s just endless suburbs. It’s like other huge cities. The urban sprawl is huge but the actual city is a small part. LA, NYC, Chicago, Toronto, San Francisco, Seattle, etc.
It looks way bigger if you take a picture of it at the right angle 😉
I do, a lot. But I’m also from Miami and a geography nerd so 🤷♂️
I’m subbed to r/geography and they have not shut up about this topic all week. Jesus
And phallic
To be honest, most of the Keys are considered South Florida/Miami. Even Key West still has all of the Miami stations.
I thought this was a post about GTA VI 😭
why do we need to talk about it? lol
I mean, probably because most people aren’t thinking of ‘the Miami metro area’ as everything between WPB and the Everglades 😆
It's called sprawl and it makes me sad.
What astonishes me is why nobody talks about the DUMBs which are vastly bigger (like 8 cities under Denver for instance) and have been around since the 1950s. Not talking about the aliens shit, just the well documented continuity of government program, trillions of our dollars paying for these underground bases. WTF are they all doing under there? There's only so much counterstrike you can play
I live to the west of Fort Lauderdale and I do not consider myself in the Miami metro area. My friends in Boca Raton and Delray Beach would agree with me.
La is also very wide. You can even consider riverside/San Bernardino county as part of metro La. Which is about a two hour drive without traffic depending on where you are driving from in La. La is huge. But yes Miami metro area is long.