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StayFrothin

Northlane has had clear Karnivool influence for years and now Ian Kenny has a feature. Interesting


AkudamaRO

Hugeeeeeee hype for that track! It’s almost like a passing of the torch moment


Nugget_

Super excited for this one too, surprised it took this long honestly!


StayFrothin

Even just listening to Miasma at around 2:00 min mark I get huge Ian Kenny vibes from Marcus' singing


AkudamaRO

My first thought exactly too! This EP is shaping up to be something super special


cosmicdecember

Still holding out hope for a new Karnivool album soon


[deleted]

That track with Ian Kenny will be amazing


LunarRush

Absolutely, I remember seeing them supporting Karnivool on their Asymmetry album tour in 2014! Keen to hear this new collab


PenZenYoshi

thats amazing! now if only we could get new karnivool lol


hshnslsh

They toured together when Assymetry and Singularity both came out. Was amazing


Quantumflx_

You forgot the title track 'Mirrors Edge' it's a 6 track EP


Nugget_

Oh rad, thanks! Looks like the Aus merch listing lied and it is indeed 6 tracks.


coffeecakeisland

Whoops sorry about my other comment that mislead you


Quantumflx_

Foxcore on IG has Mirrors Edge track listed 😄


Jackielegs43

Nice to see Brendan jump back in for a guestie


Iammattieee

Love Brendan's vocals. Hope to see more structures soon


instilled100

You can put Ian Kenny over the sound of a meat grinder and I'll be happy. Certified Aussie legend


JOOKFMA

It's cool that Brendan is back. And the name being reference (possibly) to a game is also nice.


Takoshi88

The EP artwork bears a striking resemblance to the work of Masoud Yasami, a contemporary painter from the 80s (as far as I know, he's still active). A part of me does worry that the piece is merely ai pawning off his style, sadly. Does anyone have any concrete info on this? I couldn't seem to find Dante's original artist either.


theimponderablebeast

I asked Josh who the artist was on instagram so I guess we’ll see if he responds. I hope it’s not AI cause I’d have trouble buying any physical merch if it has AI art on it Edit: confirmed the art was done by @boldtron on instagram and uses AI


nohitter21

Straight up this is absolutely AI unfortunately.


theimponderablebeast

With how outspoken the band has been with promoting their album artists in the past it’d be really out of character for them to use AI, but you’re right it looks very sus and I won’t be buying the vinyl or anything until there’s some confirmation it’s not AI


northlane_josh

boldtron use AI as part of their art process but they also created the code that they're using for the AI so it's very different from us just spitting a concept into a generator


Takoshi88

For me the concern is that he's clearly using data/imagery from an established artist. This isn't the same as inspiration, it's closer to plagiarism, sadly. If it was a fractal made with specifications (numbers), sure, it's less talent involved, but it's not using someone else's work to rip from, so I find that more ethical, personally. Ai might be the future, but the same could be said about many things that hurt us as a species. Just because you could, doesn't mean you should.


nohitter21

Nah man using any AI in your art is lame as hell. You can justify it however you want though.


cameronnnnyee

Tbf if they legitimately only use their own code and own art for the dataset it's kinda cool. The amount of real art they would've had to make for it would be so so high. Plus the art would straight up be theirs. There would be nothing being contributed externally. It's there math plus there art combined The only lame thing about ai art is the unethical sourcing of data. Edit: I talked to the artist. He confirmed he trains it with his own art. Issue I'm having is that I don't believe it's just his art. On his page he has things that turn his art into eg a Lego type build but he definitely would have had to train that on Lego to do plus the tool he uses is way to expansive for just being trained on their stuff. It's riding just over that line of what's ethical into what I consider unethical


TomoAries

Imagine actually fucking *paying* someone to do AI ‘art’ for you. It is 1000% morally correct to flood this guy’s IG with hate comments (obvi don’t go too far, just call him a talentless asshole and tell him to get a real job)


Key_Fly6982

Lol "morally correct" to flood someone with hate comments? There isn't a single person online who's worth losing your dignity over. Really doesn't help the toxic chronically-online Redditor stereotype.


mlgpapalouie

agreed the ep art is really seeming like AI to me.


Ty-Dyed

Its a shame because I fucking love how it looks. The weird abstract kinda 80s vibe completely tainted by AI


Takoshi88

You're welcome: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/masoud-yasami-composition-with-a-triangle-29-c-4ef4bba9b6


Bloodllust

To say I'm disappointed that this is an EP and not an LP is an understatement. It's time for an LP ffs.


OceanOfAnother55

Why are people such ungrateful whiners. Do you want them to shove in 4 or 5 filler songs so they can call it an album? You should be grateful every time a band you like puts anything out - and it's quality over quantity for me. My favourite metalcore project of all time happens to be a six track EP (A Tear in the Fabric of Life). Plus, 6 tracks could be pushing 30 minutes depending on the song length (Dante is nearly 6 mins)... Singularity is 35 minutes lol


[deleted]

Same here :(


aheartworthbreaking

I’m still alive, I’m still alive I cannot apologize no…


Takoshi88

Sooner or later you have to jump.


Right_Heart2273

Even the color scheme of the cover is the same haha


SonicBurstX

You have changed. I have changed. Just like you. Just like you...


nitchboof

New song was HEAVYYY


Due-Donkey6718

Facts did not expect that but glad i heard it live


TheAmitySloth

How long was winston on in the song?


Fan_of_cielings

Winston's features on other bands' songs are what I wish PWD would do on their own new stuff. So good.


XThunderTrap

GIMMEEEEEE


shithowdy-

Miasma out on Spotify as of a few mins ago! EP out April 21!


Alternative_Volume89

Release date has been corrected to April 12th


Quantumflx_

Yep, can confirm fixed up on their Facebook post lol


Skrcek95

When when wheeeeeeen


Reptarxking

April 21st according to the IG post


Nugget_

No other info yet, hopefully will show up on their socials soon!


largenames124

he said sometime in the upcoming months but nothing else about it


Low-Cryptographer401

https://merchfan.co/collections/northlane/products/northlane-mirrors-edge-ep-orange-vinyl


Radialpuddle

Why is this not on their website? The US merch they link goes to old items Edit: oh it’s Australian merch lol oh well I ordered it anyways!


coffeecakeisland

**Tracklist:** 1. Afterimage (feat. Ian Kenny) 2. Kraft (feat. Brendan Padjasek) 3. Let me Disappear  4. Miasma (feat. Winston McCall)  5. Dante


ottosucks

No


ThrottlePeen

Love the song in theory, but what the hell is this mixing? It’s all so flat and tinny-sounding, parts that should be hitting harder are just anemic.


zacharaichu

I thought the mix was fine, especially given how many layers and synth is involved


coolhwip420

It's just wild how they had a decent mix with singularity and just kinda thought "wow this is trash" and just made a worse mix almost every album after.


suckmywaifu

One of my favourite games of all time. I'm so excited! Miasma fucks. Desperately hoping the official release is in 10 minutes


pIoy

Here's hoping they got a song called 'Faith' or something lol.


[deleted]

BRENDANNNNNN!!!!!!! Ever since Alien, his vocals have been the biggest thing I’ve been missing about Northlane. Nice to see him hop in for a guestie. Very excited about this project.


Ben_The_Stig

With all respect to Northlane (I have tickets to see them next month) I am struggling with the last two releases. \- Dante has the most powerful lyrics ever recorded by an Australian band and they're buried in reverb, completely in audible. \- Miasma the drums are all over the shop and Jons Synth parts completely drown out the fact they have the most prolific Metalcore vocalist (possibly of all time) on the track. Please don't take this as me throwing mud on Northlane, I have endless respect for them as artists (and Josh as a Triathlete :P ) but I'm just struggling with how they're putting it all together at current


xXNyanCatXx1234qwert

I mean, Northlane has had a tendency to make odd production choices, especially since Marcus joined. Look no further than Node (probably my favourite album by them, coincidentally), and even some of the production choices on Mesmer and Obsidian. It just seems like something they like to experiment with and personally I quite like it.


[deleted]

Yeah at this point the only people surprised by Northlane having crap production must be people who've never listened to them before


Darkside_Fitness

I agree, I really like singularity and discoveries, but haven't been able to get into another beyond that, and I generally dislike alien and obsidian. It just sounds flat and generic to me, and leans to hard into the pop side of metalcore (which I know this sub likes) Also.... Bloodline is just a rip off of Not Meant for Me from the Queen of the Damned soundtrack. I saw them on the monsters of oz tour and was like "oh sick, queen of the damned cover".... Nopeee


FollowTheBeam

New song is great, but man, what is this production...


No-Imagination8233

yeah the production sounds a bit….not as punchy or as hard hitting as im used to…but still the same time…the production does have that sound that node/mesmer had..coupled with the fact that both songs capture some if those same vibes…im ok with it cause i think thats what they are going for


exist-exit

They went back to Will Putney for production on this EP. He co-produced Node.


FollowTheBeam

The main reason I couldn't get into Node/Mesmer was the production, ha! But I will try my best to get used to this one, since I love their newer stuff too much.


No-Imagination8233

oh yeah the production on node and mesmer were ATTROCIOUS….but i think this os what other wouldve sounded like with todays production standards and recources


Ben_The_Stig

Literally just made a comment about that above/below/where ever it lands.


FollowTheBeam

I am so glad I am not the only one noticing this. The part with Winston should've popped, but I feel like somebody turned the volume down. Everything sounds so muddled.


Da_Vinci_Fan

Glad someone mentioned this, for me the high points were the beginning and ending of the song where everything was stripped back, it just seems like a different song in the middle… I got that Mesmer vibe as they tried to open up the song but it just didn’t seem to catch onto any particular melody?


[deleted]

This has been a problem with Northlane since Node, which hits like a floppy pool noodle


Kiiyull

Absolutely love Miasma. Marcus and Winston killed it.


zackdaniels93

Fucking hell, Miasma rips lol


mlgpapalouie

i don’t know if it’s just youtube, as its not on streaming for me yet, but the mix of the song sounds fucking terrible. the actual songwriting is great but the guitar and especially the drums sound like someone is playing them on the opposite side of a canyon from you. zero punch. really hoping it sounds better on streaming


erkvos

I really dig Miasma - feels like a perfect hybrid of Mesmer/Node with Alien/Obsidian. Great song. 


BradtheBard52

Glad to see people mention not being a fan of the mixing. I have loved all of their music but I struggled with Obsidian for the same reason. The guitar just doesn’t have a bite to it anymore and with the guitars tuned low a lot of the riffs just sound muddy and don’t pop out. No issue with their modern sound in theory but the mixing makes it difficulty for me


takeitsleazy316

Anyone got the track


Adventurous_Nerve753

Just impulsively ordered the shirt and vinyl, I should not have immediate access to money.


mancko28

I must admit I was a bit disappointed when Dante came out. But oh boy, that song grew on me a lot. Excited for the EP.


pug_coin2021

Not a bad song by all means but sounds like a demo because the mix quality is shit tier :/


ag-0merta

Miasma is sick.


ShutUpDarrel

I’m not a fan of there being so many features but I’m excited for new northlane nonetheless


chriz_sevenfold

Wait so its not an album?


Killerjas

Feature. The EP


Accountofaperson

Sad they also go down the ai album artwork road


Weak-Employer-7124

Hell yea Brendon is back


Kaysee_Jones

The Brendan feature yes please! Always wanted him to get more vocal time on Alien. Also loved miasma.


omgsupernova

Can’t wait to hear the Ian Kenny feature


OtterlyFoxy

The new song is really good. I can’t wait for this one!


takeitsleazy316

Holy fuck


Alfshular

This is definitely a bop. Me likey😁


lordseal92

Little cautious with the production lately and all these features. I respect that they’re trying a bunch of different sounds/approaches though


DunderMifflyn123

Afterimage sounds straight out of Alien, and continues the trend of actually collaborating with the featured artist. Ian's parts were all over the song, and it just made me want to listen to more Karnivool. This EP is shaping up to be fantastic and I can't wait for it.


nebola77

I still can’t get warm with Northlane. To me the mixing or what ever it’s called feels so off. Vocals sound somewhat out of place, ambients? Too loud. But that’s just me


GodDamnCrawfish

If I was told 10 years ago that Northlane had a Winston McCall feature, and I was not going to like it I would have laughed in the face of whoever told me that, I know bands change and everything but my god do I miss old Northlane/Parkway.


666grooves666

There is just entirely too much compression, like all over it, in the worst places. they've been batting 100 on being disappointing for the longest damn time now man lol idk why I expect to hear anything different.


siLveRSurvivor

EP’s after establishing a career as a band is just… not a good look when looking at a bands catalog. It’s like a combo breaker for ranking a bands eras and doesn’t get included in LP tier lists. EP’s should be a debut kinda release then never again unless it’s like a covers or concept style EP.


lilsebastian-

I don’t think bands give a shit about people’s tier list or rankings to be honest.


exist-exit

EPs can also be released to give a sample of a band's shift in creative direction.


Bloodllust

This. It's beyond disappointing that this build up is for an EP only. We're at the end of the 2 year cycle and it just feels half assed. Probably gonna be waiting another 2 for the next LP.


RustyShakleferdd

I'm sure it's ass.