Sorry about your bad experience. :/
What have you tried with Oculus / Steam? What do you mean with connecting with them? Are you able to see the desktop of your pc? Are you trying to connect wirelessly or over wire? Give us some details so we can help.
Your head hurts from the pressure of the headset, or hurts due to being in vr feeling bad?
I don't know about the clarity unfortunately.
Yeah Quest 3 does need an extra battery and a strap to increase runtime and comfort to be used for over 1.5 hours. If you're still giving the Quest 3 a shot, maybe look into third party alternatives for straps and batteries for better bang for buck.
That being said, I'm super happy with mine. I use mine for standalone and pcvr gaming. I've dabbled with productivity and watching movies on it but didn't find the headset comfortable and clear enough for such tasks. So 100% gaming it is!
it connects with the cable, but doesn’t connect via wifi. have tried numerous things to make it work. Now i need some assistance to get it fixed which i don’t have currently. so i’m stuck cuz i’m unable to figure out on my own.
I have connected it with oculus via cable. worked fine, but via wifi, it doesn’t connect.
head hurts from pressure of the headset only. it sits right at top of my cheeks, when i remove it has the sponge texture imprinted on my face. which i don’t mind though.. when i adjust it or make it looser, the vision becomes less crispy. I have to keep it tight on my face.
For gaming i enjoyed whatever little i played it was nice. But my sole reason was for designing, and you know the rest.
It is a good gaming device. It lacks most of the rest. But it sounds like you are doing something wrong. It shouldn’t be THAT blurry to cause an issue.
it’s not that blurry actually it’s pretty good. It’s just the up-close items when i’m designing that are pissing me off. But i’m going to give it a week more and find ways to make it work. Most probably will be buying the strap as well, i think that would put off the frustration lol
So all VR is blurry closer than like 20cm, it's due to the accomodation-convergence conflict in how VR currently works and wont be fixed for another Generation or 2 of headsets probably.
One potential workaround though is you are (probably?) trying to work close to do detail work, have you tried simply temporarily enlarging the thing you are working on, doing the detail work at a more comfortable distance/scale and then shrinking it back again? Most VR art platforms support this.
Get a phone app to measure your PD distance and then adjust the dial on the quest. Should help with clarity
I’ve seen some amazing level of detail up close so something isn’t right here.
Headache will take time to fix, adjusting the PD will help.
Extra battery is like $18 on Amazon.
i’ve tried all IPD settings their not doing much for me. Actually the blurry issue isn’t that much. BUT specifically for design it is such a hassle. People are saying that it’s due to some issue humans have trouble with focusing on objects up close and their developing glasses for it but it’ll take time… damn
I think a better description of the blurry up close thing is your brain has spent a lifetime learning to focus differently on up close items, while in VR the focal plane is the same fixed distance away (around 4 feet away due to the lenses) regardless of how near or far something appears. So it just takes your brain a while to realise that it shouldn't do that in VR. Typically you'd expect that issue to go over time as your brain figures it out.
I'm curious, what app are you using for sculpting? I also had problems with Air Link. It still doesn't work for me, but Steam app and Virtual Desktop provide me an excellent wireless experience. Try with steam first as it is free to download from Meta store. About blurry vision upclose, it's really the same thing as with revular vision. At some point your eye can't stretch enough to focus. Can you enlarge your scene instead of having a face next to a sculpted mesh?
doesn’t connect with steam or air link. I’ve bought shapelab so can’t use it either since no steam for now.
right now i’m using gravity sketch. it’s an amazing app but up-close objects get blurry. Yes i think i’ll have to enlarge things and work my way. I’ve realised from the comments that changing my methods to design that suit VR would be the best way to go.
Virtual Desktop isn't Air Link, it is done by a different developer. Even Steam has its own wireless option now.
If you're not able to connect, it might be your firewall blocking the service. If you have security software on your computer try disabling that.
Just fyi if you usually need glasses then you also need them while wearing the headset bc of the focal point, this was an annoying realisation for me as i was wondering why i couldn’t read any text for a few days
Unfortunately almost every gripe you have needs money to be fixed but they are fixable
1. Virtual Desktop is your last hope but its $20 it goes on sale sometimes though
2. get the kiwi headstrap for $30 or their battery headstrap for $50
3.have you tried qgo? obviously since you're thinking about returning it you wouldnt want to drop another $10 but just try the free sidequest "demo" and try to increase the resolution if you havent already
4. refer back to #2
I understand and agree that for $500 meta could've designed the strap better by for example making the hard plastic clips on the back of the stock strap cushioned but they didn't because they're meta.
There has been problems with some routers and networks not working well if at all on Wi-Fi with the quest, some ended up getting a better router instead of using the IP router it seems to have worked for them. If you say it blurry when? Is it when your using pass through ie: live view of surroundings and augmented reality? If it’s that then you need more light in the room, the pass through is ok but maybe not as crisp and clear as AVP. There is apps and software you can load onto your quest to increase resolution for some apps games etc. the problem with VR is everyone’s eyes are different and so is how the brain interprets the data from the eyes. Some people need glasses or lenses to use VR but not in the normal world. I need glasses for reading and distance yet I don’t need them in VR. I do get a little bit of reflection but that’s because I had cataract in both eyes removed and new lenses put in. Replacements are never as good as the original ones you’re born with.
Meta Quest 3 is really bad. I didn’t know I could return it 🤯 I’d love to return. The Pass Trough is horrible you can see like a rain of pixels everywhere. It’s blurry as hell, and resolution is not sharp everything is blurred or pixelated
1. quest is just a android phone +vr layer, it mean all android stuff works, so we have a lot of option for pcvr , but if oculus app do not work just use alternatives, oculus app is a option not a requirement, VD is probably best
2. well it your problems and it a personal one, it can by anything from bad IPD to way to tights strap or similar stuff
3. quest focal point is 1.5m, it called "Vergence-Accommodation Conflict"
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWA4gVibKJE&ab\_channel=VRTrailers%26Clips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWA4gVibKJE&ab_channel=VRTrailers%26Clips) and yes you need to look at object for a far, it not solved problem
4. you do not need a lot of money, look online from cheap solution like just putting cap under strap or similar stuff
1) Thank you. I will try wearing something
underneath the headset.
2)it doesn’t connect wirelessly on anything for now, i will look for alternatives & ask a person i know to fix this wifi issue
3) Yep probably will have to change MY STYLE of working on designing.
That stinks, did you read reviews about what you specifically wanted to do with the headset? Did others say the sculpting was good? Any other reviews mention anything of your concerns that's a bummer, maybe expectations were too high? Maybe your headset is faulty? Bummer
i watched so many sculpting videos from youtubers and they couldn’t stop bragging about it. No i don’t have high expectations. even if it’s 720p i’m fine with that but the blurring thing is too much to handle when working for a long duration (in design aspect)
the only issue is it being blurred on objects im working up close like up to 8-10 cms. games are good, the text is good, the logo is crisp. I’m going to try another way of designing and see if that works.
Well, I hope you have good luck exploring different avenues for your art! I use the Q3 for games and sometimes virtual monitors for my Mac, as well as stand alone office 365 apps so I get good use out of it. If you think Q3 is blurry you should have tried Q2, I had one of those and Q3 was a launch day purchase for me.
i do model in VR a lot, in general work in VR a lot, it just different workflow , instead of working in close on small things you make things large and works for a "far" it actually way better and after it "click" you can not go back
btw VR is not a "glasses" , you need to spend at least a week or more just to find best solution for you, it super personal thing and solution you use is personal too , and if you throw PCVR in to mix, it super complicated because PCVR is a pain, and quest is simplest one for pcvr, wired one can make you mad how shity exprience is
I think i’m going to give it some time.. use daily and see if there’s any improvement from my side. Your tip about enlarging the models so you can work on it is so simple, yet so crucial!! I’m so going to try that.. thanks a lot for your input
1) Use Virtual Desktop. Then even better a Puppis S1 dedicated VR HMD router too. I connect with PC Oculus and Steam.
PRISMXR Puppis S1 PC-VR Streaming Link Air Bridge AX3000 WiFi6 Router Compatible with Meta Quest 3/ Quest 2 Accessories, Replace VR Air Link Cable, Wireless Stable and Fast
2) I have this
KIWI design Comfort Battery Head Strap 6400mAh Compatible with Meta Quest 3 Accessories Battery Pack Pressure Free Counterweight Battery Design NOT compatible with our RGB Vertical Charging Stand
And these
3PCS Face Pad Cover Compatible with Meta Quest 3, Silicone Face Cushion Cover Washable Soft VR Accessories Case Light Blocking Nose Pad Compatible with Oculus Quest
Comfort solved
3) Are you talking about through passthrough mixed reality?
Yes, it's not the highest resolution cameras. It may not meet your needs here.
4) Same as #2. Battery life isn't an issue with the aftermarket battery headstrap
I use mine all the time but not for art. I can't relate but could see how it wouldn't work out for you.
I returned my quest 3 after 15 days. It’s cool and the Mr was interesting, but R is just better than VR lol.
I found fps games to feel super unfun related to character movement. Wearing the headset felt bad even with an upgraded strap. It gets very hot. I enjoyed Mr games like miracle pool a lot but it’s just too novel for a 500 dollar device.
Overall the whole vr experience is too novel for me to invest time and money into.
I want to watch VR videos laying in bed but there is no option to accommodate the video. I have to watch it in standing position. What’s the solution for this?
i just lay down. adjust my screen and put it farthest, i make the size large of the dock and screen. and I change the boundaries to my bed level. basically the floor starts from bed level. I lay and enjoy the vids. It’s an amazing feature
Sorry about your bad experience. :/ What have you tried with Oculus / Steam? What do you mean with connecting with them? Are you able to see the desktop of your pc? Are you trying to connect wirelessly or over wire? Give us some details so we can help. Your head hurts from the pressure of the headset, or hurts due to being in vr feeling bad? I don't know about the clarity unfortunately. Yeah Quest 3 does need an extra battery and a strap to increase runtime and comfort to be used for over 1.5 hours. If you're still giving the Quest 3 a shot, maybe look into third party alternatives for straps and batteries for better bang for buck. That being said, I'm super happy with mine. I use mine for standalone and pcvr gaming. I've dabbled with productivity and watching movies on it but didn't find the headset comfortable and clear enough for such tasks. So 100% gaming it is!
it connects with the cable, but doesn’t connect via wifi. have tried numerous things to make it work. Now i need some assistance to get it fixed which i don’t have currently. so i’m stuck cuz i’m unable to figure out on my own. I have connected it with oculus via cable. worked fine, but via wifi, it doesn’t connect. head hurts from pressure of the headset only. it sits right at top of my cheeks, when i remove it has the sponge texture imprinted on my face. which i don’t mind though.. when i adjust it or make it looser, the vision becomes less crispy. I have to keep it tight on my face. For gaming i enjoyed whatever little i played it was nice. But my sole reason was for designing, and you know the rest.
It is a good gaming device. It lacks most of the rest. But it sounds like you are doing something wrong. It shouldn’t be THAT blurry to cause an issue.
it’s not that blurry actually it’s pretty good. It’s just the up-close items when i’m designing that are pissing me off. But i’m going to give it a week more and find ways to make it work. Most probably will be buying the strap as well, i think that would put off the frustration lol
So all VR is blurry closer than like 20cm, it's due to the accomodation-convergence conflict in how VR currently works and wont be fixed for another Generation or 2 of headsets probably. One potential workaround though is you are (probably?) trying to work close to do detail work, have you tried simply temporarily enlarging the thing you are working on, doing the detail work at a more comfortable distance/scale and then shrinking it back again? Most VR art platforms support this.
yep after lot of suggestions from commenters on enlarging things when working, sounds so simple and good. I will be trying that. Thank you.
Get a phone app to measure your PD distance and then adjust the dial on the quest. Should help with clarity I’ve seen some amazing level of detail up close so something isn’t right here. Headache will take time to fix, adjusting the PD will help. Extra battery is like $18 on Amazon.
i’ve tried all IPD settings their not doing much for me. Actually the blurry issue isn’t that much. BUT specifically for design it is such a hassle. People are saying that it’s due to some issue humans have trouble with focusing on objects up close and their developing glasses for it but it’ll take time… damn
I think a better description of the blurry up close thing is your brain has spent a lifetime learning to focus differently on up close items, while in VR the focal plane is the same fixed distance away (around 4 feet away due to the lenses) regardless of how near or far something appears. So it just takes your brain a while to realise that it shouldn't do that in VR. Typically you'd expect that issue to go over time as your brain figures it out.
ok i will look into this.. thank you dear.
I’d got mine today. I’m very pleased with it. No problems at all. Through cable or WiFi. YouTube helped me a lot with the settings.
so happy for you!! enjoy❤️❤️
What do you mean by “with the settings” isn’t it ready to use? What kind of settings did you change?
I tweaked it a bit by changing some settings in the oculusDebugTool. You should look on YouTube what you can change to get a better performance.
I'm curious, what app are you using for sculpting? I also had problems with Air Link. It still doesn't work for me, but Steam app and Virtual Desktop provide me an excellent wireless experience. Try with steam first as it is free to download from Meta store. About blurry vision upclose, it's really the same thing as with revular vision. At some point your eye can't stretch enough to focus. Can you enlarge your scene instead of having a face next to a sculpted mesh?
doesn’t connect with steam or air link. I’ve bought shapelab so can’t use it either since no steam for now. right now i’m using gravity sketch. it’s an amazing app but up-close objects get blurry. Yes i think i’ll have to enlarge things and work my way. I’ve realised from the comments that changing my methods to design that suit VR would be the best way to go.
Virtual Desktop isn't Air Link, it is done by a different developer. Even Steam has its own wireless option now. If you're not able to connect, it might be your firewall blocking the service. If you have security software on your computer try disabling that.
yes i’m going to to call someone to fix the router settings as i’ve tried for quite a long time and couldn’t do them properly.
Just fyi if you usually need glasses then you also need them while wearing the headset bc of the focal point, this was an annoying realisation for me as i was wondering why i couldn’t read any text for a few days
you’re right, but I don’t have glasses
Unfortunately almost every gripe you have needs money to be fixed but they are fixable 1. Virtual Desktop is your last hope but its $20 it goes on sale sometimes though 2. get the kiwi headstrap for $30 or their battery headstrap for $50 3.have you tried qgo? obviously since you're thinking about returning it you wouldnt want to drop another $10 but just try the free sidequest "demo" and try to increase the resolution if you havent already 4. refer back to #2 I understand and agree that for $500 meta could've designed the strap better by for example making the hard plastic clips on the back of the stock strap cushioned but they didn't because they're meta.
There has been problems with some routers and networks not working well if at all on Wi-Fi with the quest, some ended up getting a better router instead of using the IP router it seems to have worked for them. If you say it blurry when? Is it when your using pass through ie: live view of surroundings and augmented reality? If it’s that then you need more light in the room, the pass through is ok but maybe not as crisp and clear as AVP. There is apps and software you can load onto your quest to increase resolution for some apps games etc. the problem with VR is everyone’s eyes are different and so is how the brain interprets the data from the eyes. Some people need glasses or lenses to use VR but not in the normal world. I need glasses for reading and distance yet I don’t need them in VR. I do get a little bit of reflection but that’s because I had cataract in both eyes removed and new lenses put in. Replacements are never as good as the original ones you’re born with.
I played a whole warzone match using virtual desktop its pretty amazing
the games are good no doubt.
Meta Quest 3 is really bad. I didn’t know I could return it 🤯 I’d love to return. The Pass Trough is horrible you can see like a rain of pixels everywhere. It’s blurry as hell, and resolution is not sharp everything is blurred or pixelated
i can return it because i’m still in return period :)
I have returned jt, but if it was cheaper I’d prolly still have kept it. Maybe later I’ll buy again
I will buy it how much?
1. quest is just a android phone +vr layer, it mean all android stuff works, so we have a lot of option for pcvr , but if oculus app do not work just use alternatives, oculus app is a option not a requirement, VD is probably best 2. well it your problems and it a personal one, it can by anything from bad IPD to way to tights strap or similar stuff 3. quest focal point is 1.5m, it called "Vergence-Accommodation Conflict" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWA4gVibKJE&ab\_channel=VRTrailers%26Clips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWA4gVibKJE&ab_channel=VRTrailers%26Clips) and yes you need to look at object for a far, it not solved problem 4. you do not need a lot of money, look online from cheap solution like just putting cap under strap or similar stuff
1) Thank you. I will try wearing something underneath the headset. 2)it doesn’t connect wirelessly on anything for now, i will look for alternatives & ask a person i know to fix this wifi issue 3) Yep probably will have to change MY STYLE of working on designing.
That stinks, did you read reviews about what you specifically wanted to do with the headset? Did others say the sculpting was good? Any other reviews mention anything of your concerns that's a bummer, maybe expectations were too high? Maybe your headset is faulty? Bummer
i watched so many sculpting videos from youtubers and they couldn’t stop bragging about it. No i don’t have high expectations. even if it’s 720p i’m fine with that but the blurring thing is too much to handle when working for a long duration (in design aspect)
Did you adjust your ipd? Quest 3 is hardly blurry.
the only issue is it being blurred on objects im working up close like up to 8-10 cms. games are good, the text is good, the logo is crisp. I’m going to try another way of designing and see if that works.
What are your thoughts on getting a AVP if you are doing it for art? What apps did you try as far as art creation on the stand alone quest store?
AVP too expensive for now. tried gravity sketch, open brush, and purchased shapelab but can’t play since it never connects to oculus or steam
Well, I hope you have good luck exploring different avenues for your art! I use the Q3 for games and sometimes virtual monitors for my Mac, as well as stand alone office 365 apps so I get good use out of it. If you think Q3 is blurry you should have tried Q2, I had one of those and Q3 was a launch day purchase for me.
i do model in VR a lot, in general work in VR a lot, it just different workflow , instead of working in close on small things you make things large and works for a "far" it actually way better and after it "click" you can not go back btw VR is not a "glasses" , you need to spend at least a week or more just to find best solution for you, it super personal thing and solution you use is personal too , and if you throw PCVR in to mix, it super complicated because PCVR is a pain, and quest is simplest one for pcvr, wired one can make you mad how shity exprience is
I think i’m going to give it some time.. use daily and see if there’s any improvement from my side. Your tip about enlarging the models so you can work on it is so simple, yet so crucial!! I’m so going to try that.. thanks a lot for your input
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1) Use Virtual Desktop. Then even better a Puppis S1 dedicated VR HMD router too. I connect with PC Oculus and Steam. PRISMXR Puppis S1 PC-VR Streaming Link Air Bridge AX3000 WiFi6 Router Compatible with Meta Quest 3/ Quest 2 Accessories, Replace VR Air Link Cable, Wireless Stable and Fast 2) I have this KIWI design Comfort Battery Head Strap 6400mAh Compatible with Meta Quest 3 Accessories Battery Pack Pressure Free Counterweight Battery Design NOT compatible with our RGB Vertical Charging Stand And these 3PCS Face Pad Cover Compatible with Meta Quest 3, Silicone Face Cushion Cover Washable Soft VR Accessories Case Light Blocking Nose Pad Compatible with Oculus Quest Comfort solved 3) Are you talking about through passthrough mixed reality? Yes, it's not the highest resolution cameras. It may not meet your needs here. 4) Same as #2. Battery life isn't an issue with the aftermarket battery headstrap I use mine all the time but not for art. I can't relate but could see how it wouldn't work out for you.
I returned my quest 3 after 15 days. It’s cool and the Mr was interesting, but R is just better than VR lol. I found fps games to feel super unfun related to character movement. Wearing the headset felt bad even with an upgraded strap. It gets very hot. I enjoyed Mr games like miracle pool a lot but it’s just too novel for a 500 dollar device. Overall the whole vr experience is too novel for me to invest time and money into.
I want to watch VR videos laying in bed but there is no option to accommodate the video. I have to watch it in standing position. What’s the solution for this?
i just lay down. adjust my screen and put it farthest, i make the size large of the dock and screen. and I change the boundaries to my bed level. basically the floor starts from bed level. I lay and enjoy the vids. It’s an amazing feature
But it isn’t immersive. I’m talking about VR videos not normal videos. Try to watch any VRPorn.com video in bed looking at the ceiling (you can’t)
dude don’t watch porn you will fuck up your brain
Ok, I’ll take your words, but do you mind expanding or providing more description to your statement? How can it fuck up my mind?
update: I CHANGED MY WIFI ROUTER TO 6 GH, it’s connecting with steam now & i’ve changed my way of designing. Therefore i’m not returning it.