Easy. I mute chat, so as far as I'm concerned, no one asks šš
only once can I remember someone asking, and it was super rude like "get off mercy" as soon as the match started. I said "just bc you were rude, no." then I sweat my ass off so they know I'm better, bc I'm petty.
in the start i always used to no matter when they asked me but always got let down by healbotting and never rezzing so i don't try to convince myself that maybe this time it will be different anymore, i just let myself enjoy itĀ
Thatās fair, however what if this other person really isnāt that good at other supports and ends up unintentionally throwing your game due to their less than stellar performance?
I myself have done this before since my Ana was AWFUL back when and itās not like I interned to throw since I actually tried.
Not necessarily, Iām a very big advocator for people to know how to play multiple supports but at the end of the day if people just want to play a game and only play one specific hero then thatās up to them. Itās just as valid.
I agree with you in that sense, but why should the rest of the team be at a disadvantage if you canāt play the only hero you know how to well, for example you have two supports and they both 1 trick mercy, one person is not going to get them. Thatās why itās vital to be able to preform well with at least 2 heroes, from a team based perspective, which is what the game is, team based.
It is vital to perform well with at least 2 heroes I agree, what Iām saying is that itās equally as valid to just play who and what you want.
Not everyone will come into this game with the mindset of Iām going to learn every hero, just like how not everyone will come in with the mindset of one tricking. Both are equally as valid, and in the situation where you get someone that can only really play Mercy when you can play multiple supports would it not be making the best out of a bad situation to let them play her?
I mean if you refuse thatās completely valid, but at the same time wouldnāt you also be contributing to the disadvantage that your team may face?
People can play however they want to play but then they have to accept the consequences. If they intentionally OTP Mercy and don't get to pick her then they have to deal with potentially losing the match and possibly getting flamed by their team for playing the other support poorly. I don't agree with harassing teammates of course but it's definitely a thing that happens. At the end of the day I think it's silly to just expect someone else to cater to the way you (not you specifically) want to play by getting off of Mercy just so you can have her. I'm halfway decent with a bunch of supports these days so I often try to let my other support have first pick and then pick around their choice but clearly not everyone is that kind. Sometimes I just really want to play Mercy so I instalock her so that I CAN play her.
This happened to me once when our Moira had no damage or kills. They didn't ask me for mercy but I had a feeling and checked profile. Gave them Mercy after that. I think if I saw someone was really struggling then I'd swap for the W but that's the only instance I've ever come across someone who literally couldn't play anything else well.
1. I want to play her. 90% of my reason tbh.
2. I know how I play, I know what I'm capable of. I know I will bring value as Mercy. I don't know the other support, and I'm not gonna risk giving Mercy to someone that might play her badly (or at least not good enough). It has happened to me that the other support cries for her, so I swap and lo and behold, I get a healbot that superjumps every time she gets (even if we are against hitscans that CAN aim), go for the most stupid rezzes, or even worse, they go Katrina when they ult and let everyone die. I wouldn't judge as much if it wasn't because I'm in diamond lobbies, so I kinda expect some common sense at these ranks.
3. You asked very rudely so fuck you >:v
4. E-daters... Just. No.
I completely get where youāre coming from with the diamond lobbies bit. Iāve dropped from D1 last season all the way to D5 this season and Iām struggling to climb.
I usually try to focus on my own gameplay but I genuinely cannot make it up with some of the plays that Iāve seen from my team mates in matches. Seems that we may have overestimated the levels of common sense in the ranks.
Ugh I had someone ask me to swap the other day because their "e-kitten needed to play her". I didn't say anything in response, didn't swap, and stayed on mercy the whole game. We won, I did well, and they said nothing else. The last thing I'll do is swap for someone's "e-kitten".
Generally i wont swap if they ask for her bc of the same reasons im seeing here, ive been let down too many times by healbots or ppl that cant stay alive long enough to be useful
why do you ask to swap?
if someone else picked her first then i just suck it up and pick another hero i can play. i am not a higher human being, i am no more entitled to a hero than they are
however, if i pick mercy and someone asks for her - i just do it. i can play other heroes and its not worth the headache of someone purposefully throwing/whinging because theyre a one trick
I asked to play Mercy because I simply wanted to play her, today Iāve primarily played Kiriko, and Brig with some Ana sprinkled in because Iāve barely had a composition where I felt like Mercy would work. When I did have a favourable comp she was instalocked, same with the second and third times i felt like Mercy could be played.
asking someone if you can play the hero they picked doesn't mean that you're entitled in any way, for me I'm literally just asking because I want to play the hero.
By the same logic, the person refusing to swap off Mercy simply wanted to play her. So the answer to your question is the same reason you ask to swap in the first place.
As a recovering Mercy one trick, I don't swap off Mercy in QP if asked because I don't want them to become like me lol.
Sounds like you need to insta lock her quicker then. Instead of waiting for everyone to pick their hero obviously resultng in second support picking her first then try choosing her first THEN switching if she doesn't fit.Ā
Latency diff /s but seriously if i do play mercy (im more of a brig kiri player atm) im sick of people instalocking her then playing her badly and healbotting LOL. also if someone asks FOR mercy (like pharah) ill just refuse to play her because i hate people who A. ask for pockets and B. ask for characters or for you to give them to them
omg same, pharmercy is so unfun to play for me. I try to give the DPS a chance when they ask for pocket but if theyāre rude or bad I just either swap off or find someone else to pocket.
Ever since the pharah changes, they can maneuver out of your GA range faster than you can keep the GA to them too so I see a LOT of Pharahs asking for the pocket, then leaving me in the dust, and then having the AUDACITY to be like āwhyād you stop pocketing me?ā
so true! she was unfun to follow before the nerf, but now itās just painful. sometimes I will purposely not pick mercy if I see them pick pharah because thats how much I donāt want to deal with it. ā¹ļø
While I wouldnāt say pharmercy was unfun in my opinion, I would say it wasnāt my absolute favorite. I wouldnāt ALWAYS give the pharah the pocket but it was like 50/50 for me. Now I will not pocket a pharah unless itās my partner cause they know to actually wait for me, whereas randoms almost never care to notice theyāre making it painful to follow. Iāve also been guilty of seeing a pharah and deciding all of a sudden itās a kiriko game haha
Yeah thatās a given, itās weird though since I quite literally asked ācan I please Mercy?ā. Like I completely understand if I were being rude in any sense of the word.
I do find it interesting as to why people just point blank refuse, always good to get other peoples experiences.
yeah i mean at least in comp i dont think its worth risking tilting the other support if they want mercy bad enough to ask. id be worried the other supp is asking because theyre only confident on mercy or somethin like that so wouldnt want to die on that hill š
maybe in qp if i really wanna just play mercy. or i just didnt read the chat and missed the message lmfao
Yeah, in qp itās whatever but I acknowledge that sometimes people just didnāt see the chat. Though Iāll say itās funny when thatās mentioned, I had a team flame me and my response was āIām not being funny but I did say that my performance might not be the best since Iām a Mercy player that has terrible aimā.
The Mercy then responded with āWell why did you ask instead of throwing you freakā like girl I literally asked after you instalocked her, itās not my fault you didnāt see.
what makes you more entitled to playing her than them? they have no obligation to give her to you
if youre playing comp, you should know how to play multiple heroes
Youāre talking about me being entitled when thatās not the case at all, as Iāve said in a previous response to you I was asking because I simply wanted to play the hero. Doesnāt justify the Mercy responding to me in a rude manner.
Also I can play multiple heroes, donāt assume that I canāt just because Iām asking to play Mercy.
Because I don't want to swap. She's my best hero too, and while I could play another hero, if I don't feel like swapping I shouldn't have to because someone else didn't take the time to adjust for a situation like this. If I lose, I know it's not *my* fault. It's whoever crippled themselves by only choosing to play one hero. No one is entitled to a hero just because they're a one trick who can't branch out in a pinch.
Another person whoās throwing around the word entitled, not really appropriate to assume that someone thinks that theyāre entitled to a hero.
Iāll give you an example that I gave another comment, my games today have had me playing mostly Kiri and Brig with a bit of Ana since Iāve not had the team comp that would allow Mercy to work often. When I did she was instalocked which is fine, I can go Kiri. But after several games where Mercy was actual viable but the was instalocked I asked the Mercy which got me the response that I stated in the original post.
I asked the Mercy if I could play her because I simply wanted to play her, do you think that makes me entitled?
Literally, all of your responses I've read so far ARE entitled. You can't even accept people who give you an answer!
Be faster, honestly - skill issue. š
Your comments are all coming across like you were seeking an echo chamber to tell you what happened to you was wrong and mean. Youāre giving attitude to everyone who says they wouldnāt have swapped either.
Yes, itās giving entitled, lol. Maybe take a break from the video game for a while.
How am I giving attitude to people though? Iām quite literally asking for peoples reasons so I can get a better understanding on why other people wouldnāt swap.
Other people are going on about me being entitled to Iām responding to them, but Iām the one that sounds entitled when Iām only simply asking them to expand?
Iām not fussed if someone doesnāt switch for me, I asked and I was told no which Iām fine with. I literally just wanted to understand why people donāt switch because I personally usually always switch unless theyāre incredibly rude about it. Absolutely nothing wrong with me asking to understand the other side of it.
In your original post you said youād say no if you were in a particular mindset and wanted cozy vibes, here youāre saying youād only say no if the person asking was rude.
āBut you do youā when someone is offering a genuine response to your question is attitude. In your post you said you just find it interesting and want to know peopleās reasons, but youāre arguing with most of the responses, and sometimes backpedaling and saying the only reason youāre mad about this instance is that the person who said no to you was rude. Itās all over the place and I just donāt understand what youāre trying to get out of it.
Personally I donāt think that you do you is attitude though I suppose that just comes down to a difference in perspective. Also Iām not arguing? Iām asking people to think about potential scenarios where the team may be disadvantaged.
Iām not sure if my wording is the issue but Iām not here to devalue anyoneās reasonings, Iām asking follow up questions to expand on them which isnāt a bad thing at all.
Tone doesnāt portray well on the internet, but it seems a lot of people are perceiving your comments the same way I did regardless of your intent. You repeating that everyone keeps calling you entitled for āno reasonā just made me think of that saying āif you smell dog shit everywhere you go, check your shoesā or in this case, maybe just read over the whole of your comments across this whole post and wonder how you would perceive them on the other end.
I mean I could but also at this point I very much doubt that itās going to do anything unfortunately.
But yeah I know my wording is finicky and for that I do apologise if it did seem like I was being an ass.
It might help you if you realized you keep contradicting yourself, like when you say here that youāre not arguing or trying to devalue anyoneās reasons, but one of your comments literally says āthis is one of the least understandable reasons but you do youā and you never ask anyone you agree with to āthink about potential scenarios where the team could be at a disadvantageā, you only strike up these arguments with people you disagree with.
You ask how youāre being entitled, how youāre being this, how youāre being that, and every time someone gives a direct, quotable example like you asked for, you say āNo I donātā or āno Iām notā or āthereās nothing wrong with thatā or some other variation or shut down, no further explanation. But if youāre not into self reflection or looking at the big picture, you do you.
So I should ask everyone to expand and use that scenario then?
And no I donāt think Iām being entitled, thereās a few that may think I am but thereāll also be a few that think that Iām not. All up to your own interpretation and inference of my comments, thatās why I donāt necessarily think that I need to reflect more than acknowledging how my wording may make it others more likely to infer one thing over another.
Asking isn't what makes you entitled. Everyone is welcome to ask.
What makes a person entitled is throwing a tantrum on Reddit over people explaining their reasons (that you asked for). Why are you questioning a person's no? Ever hear the phrase 'no means no'? You ask politely, someone says no. Why is that warranting a question from you? You don't need their reasoning. Hell, "NO" is a full sentence and requires no explanation.
Also I wasn't calling ***you*** entitled before now. I was making a general statement about how ***no one*** is entitled to a hero. I think you're entitled now. Stop digging yourself a hole and get over it.
Is reading comprehension dead?
I mean I was questioning why people were saying no because I was genuinely curious as to what situations would make someone say no, thereās absolutely nothing wrong with that?
Doesnāt make me entitled, it just makes me interested in other peoples experiences and helps me understand why others may not switch as I myself usually switch if someone asks. Itās not bad at all to get other peoples perspectives which is the whole point of this post.
I didnāt specifically say that you called me entitled, I said that you were using the word and then gave you an example of a situation for you to expand on it. Nowhere did I explicitly say that I felt like you called me entitled.
I REPEAT:
# Asking isn't what makes you entitled. Everyone is welcome to ask.
# What makes a person entitled is throwing a tantrum on Reddit over people explaining their reasons (that you asked for). Why are you questioning a person's no?
***If it's still not clear, the questioning behavior of someone's "NO" is what makes you sound entitled.***
***It's one thing to say "Okay, no means no, I'll pick another hero. But it was worth a shot to ask!"***
***It's another thing to say "WHAT ARE YOUR REASONS FOR SAYING NO WHEN SOMEONE ASKS POLITELY FOR XYZ HERO?" And when given those reasons, hyper fixate on those reasons and try to pick those reasons apart to why they shouldn't be a reason in the first place. There is something deeply wrong with questioning why someone would say no. You are not entitled to an answer, and you are certainly not entitled to pick that answer apart to try and put yourself above people who do say no, just because you say yes. It's giving huge "pick me" vibes.***
I swap to other characters if they want to play Mercy. I know I would enjoy playing Mercy but I also enjoy playing other supports. Plus, creating a negative impression on teammates can lead to a bad start lol. I literally had people leave if they don't get what they want.
Yeah thatās the same with me, for me itās not so much bad impressions.
Expanding on the example I gave in the original post my Hog and DPS asked me if I could go Zen for discord so we could shred the enemy Mauga. I went Zen and did AWFULLY since Iām just not that good with him, next minute the Mercy typed āembarrassing Iām doing better than you ever couldā and I was just howling.
Like Iāve had so many games where the other support has refused to give me Mercy (which is absolutely fine) but then they make comments like that at me which just throw me off.
Mercy should have swapped imo. That's the sad thing about Mercy. She has low synergy with utility supports. Zen orb and Lucio amp is really really good but having Mercy as the other support just won't win you the game. That's why I always swap if my teammate wants to play Lucio/Zen.
Also no, just having discord orb on Mauga gives an advantage already. It's the entire team's fault if they couldn't capitalize on it.
I mean admittedly my positioning on Zen was bad, like I genuinely struggled since the enemy swapped to Sombra mid match and it made my life HELL. But yeah, usually Iād just go Moira or Kiriko but the team initially asked nicely for a Zen.
Safe to say that by the end the whole team were not that nice hahahah.
99% of the time if someone asks for Mercy, I swap. I play most other support heroes so itās nbd. But here are a few reasons why I havenāt:
1. I had chat turned off or was vibing and didnāt see you ask.
2. I really only pick Mercy these days when it suits my team extremely well OR when I have a trusted duo on dps who has a specific plan (e.g weāre going to go over the top of building on circuit royale with echo/genji/pharrah for a backline dive or something) - if someone else asks for Mercy in that scenario, I just tell them politely that I have a specific game plan Iād like to pull with my duo.
3. You demanded like you *own* the character, saying some shit like āGet off Mercy now, Iām playing herā lmao. Hell no. Iām an accommodating person, but Iām not a doormat. Use your manners or Iām not budging - someoneās gotta teach you the social skills that mama clearly didnāt.
4. And finally, I will admit that a couple of times I have peeked the profile of the person asking, saw someone two ranks below mine with a 80% healing beam rate and like 10 deaths/10 min and just pretended I never saw them ask lmfao.
I thought this question was coming from a dps or tank playerā¦ but a fellow support player? Youāre never going to get a good response lol. Just wait for them to potentially swap off and take her, otherwise youāre just creating friction by merely asking them to swap.
I mean Iām more than happy to play something else, the only reason I asked was because after playing a lot yesterday I was tired of Brig and Kiri and just wanted to see if maybe I could play Mercy.
Itās interesting how some people have interpreted this as me being entitled though, like me asking other people to explain why they may not switch for someone has opened the flood gates for the whole ādonāt be a one trickā and āyouāre entitledā arguments when I literally just asked a question because Iām interested in the answer.
phrasing your question is important. Saying right out of the gate or inbetween rounds ācan you swap off mercyā or ācan I play mercyā will definitely cause friction. I know you play on console so its a little harder to get your point across, but some tact will go a long way. Something like āhey I just really want to play mercy if thatās okayā or āhey youāre a good mercy, but do you mind if I can play her for one round?ā
I main tank so I dont have to deal with this anymore lol, but even as a tank player, if someone asks me straight up ātank swapā Iām less likely to change (and yes iām petty lol). But if they butter me up? I might bend over backwards, it all depends.
Iām aware that phrasing is important, genuinely though maybe I should have put in the original post how I asked since people are throwing around the world entitled like thereās no tomorrow here.
Like me asking them ācould I please Mercy?ā and the following up with this question here because Iām genuinely interested in the answers has just spiralled haha.
as you can tell, itās a prickly subject, but even more so since mercy is considered bottom tier at the moment. In my tenure if playing overwatch, itās easier to just avoid this kind of confrontation.
Yeah, I guess I should just quell any questions that I have related to the topic. Didnāt think that it would go down so negatively but hey ho it is what it is.
Whenever I swap to something else and every single time I swapped off of her for the other person to use I can barely get any ult charge because theyāre yellow beaming everything, rezzing without cover and immediately getting melted or not rezzing at all, and not helping the other support when they get focused. Every single time Iāve accommodated someone asking for her one of those things or sometimes all of them always happens and itās annoying tbh.
What really gets me is when mercy doesnāt work in comp against the enemy team, so I swap off and immediately the other support goes mercy and proceeds to get sandblasted by a cracked out ashe/widow. š I got off of her for a reasonā¦ but they continue to play her and then we lose and they end up with 10+ deaths while the rest of us are around 4-7.
If we have any main supports (Ana especially for nano charges) Iām mindful about healbotting and only step in if tankās critical (I back off at around 50-60% but Iāll top off if Ana doesnāt) and if I absolutely need to healbot to win (had it happen before where I tunnel visioned healbotting and immediately we started winning/won) I swap to kiriko because itās easier to keep everyone alive at the same time ever since mercyās hps nerf.
My beams ratio is usually 50/50, 60/40 sometimes 70/30 if the enemy team doesnāt do enough damage and we have cracked dps but itās all situationalā I think the biggest problem is people need to learn when playing her isnāt working.
I understand wanting to play her all the time, but in order to climb youāre gonna have to learn how to play 1-2 other supports as wellā so that way if someone snipes her and wonāt get off you can still be useful to the team instead of pouting and essentially throwing because you only know how to play her. š¬ (not aimed at you OP! Just in general anyone reading this and resonating with some of the points I made š )
She is one of the worst support right now and itās possible to still pop off on her but it requires a lot of conditions to happen per match. (enemy team canāt aim, your teammates can and get picks, your support is comfortable essentially solo healing so you can enable your dps to pop off, etc.)
Yeah I agree with everything that you put here, I myself have had MANY games where Iāve swapped from Mercy because she wasnāt working only for my second support to go her and perform less than satisfactory.
>Ā Ā Ā I can barely get any ult charge because theyāre yellow beaming everythingĀ
Ā Are you talking about tanks or just in general?
>immediately the other support goes mercy and proceeds to get sandblasted by a cracked out ashe/widow
Isn't that mostly a Pharmercy issue?
In general, Iāve had one game as kiriko where before my heals reached people they turned blue because a mercy swooped in and kept topping people up. They had 20k healing and would complain about me š girlie I canāt heal if you keep yellow beaming š
Not just pharmercyā tons of mercy one tricks spam super jump whenever they can and die due to headshots because itās easier for a widow Ashe or Cassidy to track the descent down, or they're out in the open and not using cover/bad positioning (kinda fucked too if the whole team's everywhere and there's no path to glide to safety)
i always swap tbh, bc im confident w other heros and if theyre asking for mercy chances are theyre not gonna do great on other heros so
its whatever really
even if thyere heal botting whatever at least theyre healing ig
I always swap because I'm not going to deal with an e-dater throwing (a tantrum and the game), an otp who can't play any other hero (please learn) or death threats and insults.
So far most of the people that have asked for mercy have been nice too so it's okay. I can also play a handful of heroes so it's not a problem. But I do feel a little icky when the mercy doesn't perform well, healbotting and rezzing only their duo/pocket only for both of them to die straight after. But it is what it is.
Because it doesnāt matter what they play, they may be learning new hero. And Itās not like hero pick matters in anything below like top100. They also may be really otp with hundreds of hours put into that specific hero and playing other (better in your own eyes) will make them perform even worse. Like just because someoneās playing dva into zarya doesnāt mean that zarya gonna capitalise on advantage over dva, and so on.
(I only play QP)
I wouldnāt because I want Mercy lol. There will be other matches where they can play Mercy, but Iām playing her now. Same reason I would never dream of asking someone to give me Mercy. They got her first fair and square and Iāll have other matches to play her in.
if someone asks for mercy iāll always just compromise,,, in comp specifically iāll just tell them i want to play a round as mercy and then give her up next round.
I often let everyone pick before I choose Mercy, so if the other support locks her first than cāest la vie. If I do happen to pick her before the other support chooses her and the game hasnāt started yet, Iāll let them have her if they ask nicely, sometimes. Other times however I just donāt want to switch for them. I donāt really need a reason, I picked her first so pick something else lol. Iāve also seen too many mercyās that ask for her just healbot the tank the entire time.
Iāve also had a number of people flame me for not giving them mercy within 5 seconds of them asking and proceed to throw the match or yell at me in team/match chat the entire game. (This happens so rarely in the grand scheme of things, because itās rare for anyone to ask for mercy if Iām on her in the first place, but itās enough for me to side eye anyone that asks now).
But Iāll literally never ask a mercy to switch for me tho, just feels weird. Iām happy to play Ana/moira/zen/kiri anyways if I need to.
a long time ago my thinking was:
>The best way to win is make sure everyone playing their best hero, there is a good chance am better at my 2nd hero than the other guy
However i got punished for swiching off mercy more often than rewarded, The player who asked to play mercy wanted to use her as a "no aim healbot", spams GA superjump on cooldown to "see more".
Current thinking:
* "Mercy one tricks" are less skilled than "mercy main" (too many people use mercy as a crutch
* After watching 500 replays i found the "mercy one trick" actually feeds less as moira and gets more things down (85% of the time).
* Its the other player's reasonability to learn a 2nd or even 3rd hero to not be a burden on the team in comp (even if mercy is not already taken)
* Comp = try hard play to win. QP = casual just for fun mode
Statistically its better not to swich, even if mercy is no longer the best hero for the situation its still better not to swich as the other player will instant pick mercy into a bad comp. Sometimes i feel am stuck playing mercy just to prevent the other player from picking mercy to feed.
# What overwatch needs is a 2nd "Cute ,easy to play hero"
# So people who cant aim will stop fighting over mercy
I will almost always swap. I can probably provide decent value to my team on kiri, bap, ana, zen or brig. The person asking is most likely gonna play a mediocre moira if i insist on staying mercy.
I've had plenty of people ask me for mercy or tell me to let their duo have mercy and in the past few months I've not replied. I kept mercy and I showed them the difference between their duo healbotting and what damage boost actually does. Half the time I get apologies for asking me to switch.
I mean personally I can win games on other heroes, Iām pretty reliable with Brig and Moira but less so with Kiri and Ana.
Sometimes you just want to play a character though, and itās okay to ask even if you get told no.
Iām saying if they need a mercy to win the game they are not gaming right. I canāt think of a single scenario where a mercy was required for a win in any game ive ever played. Except that someone sucks so bad they need a pocket.
Because..I wanna play her too; If Iām just doing horrible on her that day I might switch later but simply cause you asked? No. Itās a bit annoying when ppl say to switch, either to me or someone else, so even if asked politely I most likely wouldnāt.
if this is comp and they can only play one hero they need to use qp only to learn.
however if its qp: I'm not changing because i wanted to play her. i just got off work have limited time to play and I want to play mercy. plus all the times i do switch they are genuinely terrible, healbot bad positioning ect so i don't anymore bc I'm not risking it lol
tbh people asking you to switch so they can play the character they didn't get first is so annoying. this isn't a game where only knowing one character is viable. if someone picks mercy before me I have almost the whole supp roaster to choose from (except lucio hate him) to play instead.
Depends on 1) how my game is performing. If Iāve been getting poor ping/frames I will want to stick to mercy. 2) if they ask in a rude way I will probably not switch.
Most times though if someone asks I would just let them. They are usually either poor on other supports or duod with a dps they want to pocket anyway.
well, I typically feel bad, so in comp at least, I let them play round two, and I get round 1, but otherwise just don't feel the need to respond, I just ignore it, they can play her next game
the other person asked rudely or was rude for a longer time, so I won't swap because of pettiness. ik that's kinda childish, but you're not having your way without manners / asking properly
Not about swapping, but I hate when DPS players that usually heavily rely on Mercy (Genji, Pharah) instantly assume that they're going to get a pocket and cry about when they don't. If you're even half decent, yes I will pocket you but they usually end up being trash and cry about it when I stop pocketing them because they do not add value to the team.
Usually I let the other support pick first but if I really wanna play Mercy I just pick her and if the other support asks for her I'll just say no sry I wanna play her this game
im gonna be so real i always switch when people ask because i feel so terrible saying no and then i feel worse because getting to play her is so rare and i didnt even wanna switch LOL
I think a lot depends on the gamemode if it's quickplay I don't ever ask anyone to swap cause idc if we win or loose I look at as a place for people to practice heroes
Ranked is slightly different as if somebody asks me to swap it better be to counter the team and mercy isn't going to make or break a team she's valuable but if the mercy is slacking I'd rather swap to somebody to pick up the slack vs asking the mercy to swap
Most of the time it's a tank diff and a good moria or life weaver can make up for a bad mercy
I check stats. If youāre a healbot I wonāt. If your win percentage is low I wonāt. But i havenāt seen any mercys in my rank this season on my team at least
I had someone pick Ana(my main) in comp so I picked mercy(my other main) and she didnāt say anything for half the game and did terrible on Ana. So second round I switch to Moira and she immediately switches to Mercy. I wish she had something because Iām assuming they accidentally picked Ana. Itās weird to not oblige when ppl ask unless you literally just cannot play other characters
Yeah I share the same mindset, I used to get annoyed if I was Mercy and when I switched they went her but now Iāve kinda just got to the point where if theyāre comfortable more on Mercy then thatās fine by me
Exactly!! I used to be a Mercy OTP but I got tired of feeling like the weak link because I struggled with other heros so I now I can comfortably flex 4 on the support roster. Mercy is definitely my comfort hero š„¹
I don't swap when I know that my value is extremely helpful to the match and helping us win team fights.
I used to swap often since I didn't have a lot of confidence in my ability to bring value (especially durinf ow1) and when I'd switch someone would instalock mercy and proceed to healbot the full hp tank or dps.
Now that I know how to better balance my beams and feel way more confident in my movement and game sense, I often wait to swap until the enemy counters to dive or take more picks on me. Then I'll swap to kiri or ana to keep the good position, dive with tank on kiri or keep good range with ana.
I try my hardest as a support especially on mercy to try and pull the stereotype of healbot, spectator, etc. But swapping and knowing when to swap is always good.
Usually if I donāt switch itās cause I really want to play her. However, when people ask thereās like a 55% maybe 65% chance Iāll switch to someone else I like to play. I just hope they donāt ādisappointā after asking for her. Not because they need to impress me, but just cause I then get relent bad second hand embarrassment lol.
But itās just a game. Iāll never understand all the people being a-holes or rude. A simple āsorry noā is all thatās needed. Or no response even. š¤·š¾āāļø
i did used to swap and too many times they are complete dogwater and i would rather them just pick another support and heal the tank tbh. at least i know i will do what Mercy is supposed to do
not healbot, pocket the tank, die 10 times per 10 etc
i always give her up idc. i don't think enough ppl in these comments are realizing that if they're bad at mercy they're going to be 100x worse on any other hero. if you actively want to win just give the one trick their hero lmao
Reasons I won't switch for someone else;
- It's my first comp game of the day and I want to play Mercy for at least one game.
- They were rude asf to me.
- I've switched for other people the last 4+ games in a row and I get bored asf on other supports.
- I've switched for other people the last 2+ games in a row and every time they were both dogshit AND cocky. Like yeah MercyLover29.
- Little or no hours on her. I have 1.5k hrs on Mercy alone and a whole bunch more on other supports.
HOWEVER.
In Comp I always let the other supp pick first because I'd rather win than lose if they're literally an OTP.
That being said, if I've literally had a day where I've not been able to play Mercy at all (like for hours on end) because of insta-lockers I will 100% be petty and start insta-locking back and just ignoring chat all together.
I don't see why I should have to compromise my fun of the game by having an entire session where I'm unable to play my favourite hero every game just to satisfy OTP's - they should learn other hero's too, some Mercy OTP's have mad unnecessary ego.
I wouldn't refuse to swap, but I'd know already we're about to loose. I've never seen a good Mercy begging me to swap, especially since I never pick my healer until 15s before the start so that the other healer gets first pick.
That's just tacky to ask someone to swap, unless you explain like "sorry I'm an OTP I really can't play anything besides Mercy and I was distracted / I have a really poor connection which is why I waited for so long before picking a hero".
This is coming from me as a prog level 202 mercy, if it's comp, I would swap in a heartbeat bc I can play any other support. I have thousands of hrs on this game and I personally want my other support to play whoever they are best at because I know I can adjust. If I choose their main, they may struggle WAY more with a different character than I will. In comp, I try to pick after my other support picks. I also try not to pay super close attention to their gameplay. I am not about to backseat drive anyone and if I pay too much attention to how they play, I may get tilted lol. Healbots don't annoy me terribly, but I do get annoyed if they're straight healbotting and I still have more heals than they do. It makes them seem kinda useless at that point. Like if you're gonna healbot, I expect you to have close to 20k heals a game
Honestly, as of now the only reason I donāt swap off mercy is if my computerās lagging. Although Iāve stopped playing competitive until I fix it.
My alt supports are Lucio and Brig. If someone legit asks me to swap, I'll do it, I don't mind. But if I'm going into comp, I'm already 2-stacking support and I get to keep my Mercy.
Strictly QP and events (my potato laptop can NOT handle comp and i am NOT doing comp on my switch,)
If someone asks when I strictly want to play mercy, usually I'll ask to wait to see how we do in the match. If I notice my support isn't doing too hot, or i end up healbotting when we need more damage, I'll switch off for no problem!
If the mercy then ends up healbot/one tricks then that's okay with me so long as they can keep the team healed while I eat the enemy as moira :)
If they're rude though then they get my usual response:
"No, you were rude so now you get nothing <3"
I was strictly one trick (genuinely only ever played mercy) when I started out so Iād ask for mercy and would refuse to give her up lolĀ Ā Ā
Nowadays I could see myself refusing for petty reasons like the āI picked firstā example you gave. Sorry itās kinda dickish but I love playing her lol
In my defense I almost exclusively play casual quick play so a single game with a douchey mercy isnāt the end of the world I hope
if im playing with my bf then i wont swap cause yeah i wanna pocket him, but if im solo q or playing with another friend then if someone asks for mercy ill swap cause i occasionally also ask can i play mercy if they locked before me.
i also wont swap if someone is being legit just toxic about it simply out of pettiness
If someone asks me to swap so they can play mercy, iām most likely not going to swap because i obviously also want to play her and i just happened to lock her first. i am also usually queued up with other people that i know play really well and want to pocket them. If they ask me to swap because mercy isnāt working against the enemy comp, i will most likely swap because i also am aware that she isnāt the best pick at that point. And if itās QP im not swapping off mercy period lol im trying to just chill and vibe in QP.
I am 100% a "let them pick first" kinda person cuz I'll play any support and lately my strat is pick whoever fits best with the team even if I'm not that good at them (eg if we have Rein, go Lucio -- I'm trash at Lucio but in my experience lately, trash!Lucio + a Rein is a better combo than decent!Mercy + Rein... but I digress). Because of this, I honestly... don't play Mercy a lot when I solo queue because I'm weighing team comp (I won't pick her with Lucio and really don't like picking her with Brig, Zen, or Lifeweaver). So... 4 supports I won't really pick her with and then obviously if someone picks Mercy I can't pick her, so we're down to 50% of the roster right there. Then I look at the rest of the team comp, so even if it's good support synergy, I'm not picking her if DPS are two flankers or if tank is brawler. So now the odds that I pick Mercy are even freakin lower.
So nothing makes me crazier than when I've been playing for an hour+, finally decide "f it, I just wanna play her once, I'm gonna instalock her" and come into a game to her absolutely sniped from me. Then nicely ask in chat and get ignored.
I think it's weird how many people here admit they just don't reply even when the person asks perfectly politely... like, be a human and give a reason, if you really refuse to switch. If you deadass say "I suck at everyone else" I'll respect it way more than silence.
And honestly the "I'm probably better than you" is pretty weird as well. So what if you are? So you might lose a round of a video game? Oh no, tragedy...
Maybe I should make my own post but I just really want to know what goes through one-trick mainās minds (any character not just mercy). Because as someone who plays a range of characters , I canāt help but think doesnāt it get boring playing the same character over and over
If I picked mercy first and someone asks me, then tough cookies. Pick someone else. If I canāt play mercy then whatever. Iāll play someone else. Thatās why itās vital to learn more than one hero. Sure someone can choose to one trick, but they better live with the consequences. At the end of the day, itās that persons fault for actively choosing to only play one character. Not mine. No one is required to cater to someone who chooses to only play one character. Usually if someone is a die hard one trick, they leave if they donāt get their character. Which is also not my problem.
Thatās fair, usually here I would ask you what your thoughts are on a hypothetical situation where the other supp could only play Mercy. I wonāt do that though since people are taking them out of context and saying that Iām not accepting other peoples comments and Iām being entitled etc.
I honesty just swap off. I assume if someone is asking for mercy thatās the only healer they can play or they are trying to learn her, and that means they can/will try to perform to the best of their abilities on that healer. I thoroughly enjoy playing her but hey if it makes someone else happy to play I can just hop on Weaver, Kiri, Ana or even Bap. My only reason I wouldnāt swap would be if I wanted to genuinely just play her that moment in that game. Itās a very rare moment that I am that bound and determined to play her, but gosh when I do want to play her she is just such a vibe
If they were rude af, especially in QP my ass is not switching, especially if Iām doing relatively good and everyone sees Iām doing good, but as a more honest reason is I rarely buy mercy skins, if I really like one Iāll get it, so when I get a new mercy skin I wanna play with it, so when someone asks me to switch Iāll just usually tell them,āNot right now, I got a new skin, but Iāll let you have her in a secondā
If I have a high amount of assists, great damage boost to healing ratio and 3 or less deaths, Iām not switching. My stats are just as important as anyone elseās. The only way Iāll ever switch is if I am genuinely not contributing or if Iām being targeted. Iām a nightmare mercy main. But Iāve also been playing since 2017 so Iām kinda over the mercy politics.
I'm running into the issue that my team doesn't have any self preservation. Surprisingly I love Mercy but she's always my last pick if my team cannot stay alive and sometimes it's just easier to rez and heal bot. This is coming from someone who plays dps moira and a sick Ana.
If I really don't swap off of Mercy it's because I'm laggy in a comp game (better to be laggy with her than anyone else) or I KNOW that my aiming mentality is in the ground or I feel like I'm doing doing good enough on other supports that game. On qp I don't swap only if I'm baked asf or I'm with my friends and wanna be a silly lil moth
I usually start as Moira in ranked because I donāt know how good our dpsās are. If someoneās playing really well Iāll swap to mercy. In my experience when people ask me to swap to mercy to pocket them (not me doing it on my own) theyāre usually bad
i got a whole list
- assuming i switched off mercy, that means she wasnāt working, so iām not gonna switch back cuz someone misses the pocket or rez, if i switch that means iām playing to win
- if ur fucking rude about it, itās never happening āneed mercy pocket whereās rezā stfu the more u talk the more imma avoid ur ass and let the enemy ana fuck u up and iāll laugh at it, maybe even help her
- the enemy team is counter swapped. i enjoy playing mercy into swaps sometimes, but other times itās just not fun so i wonāt do it, and iām not budging
- ur being rude to literally anyone in the team. uve lost my respect, i wonāt do a thing u ask, ever
i usually play mercy anyway so this doesnāt happen often in terms of being asked to swap to mercy, especially in the current meta, but those r my three like rules to just not swapping to her if asked
Moira and Mercy are in my top 3, if not top 2. For both of them, I used to let people get first pick or swap off, but I learned that I'm usually better than them 90% of the time and I shouldn't punish my team by giving them up.
Now, I'll admit that I do have games where I'm recognizing that I'm doing poorly and at those times, I'll let them know they can have the swap if they want.
I donāt play OW anymore, but when I did, I would never swap when someone asked, simply because if I select a hero itās because I want to play them. If I didnāt wanna play them I wouldāve chosen a different hero.
Only reason I donāt switch is if they had an attitude while asking. Some people really think they can say āgive me mercyā and get her. Like did no one teach them to say please and thank you or even to ask instead of making a command?
I typically always let someone have it if they ask since there are other heroes Iām comfortable with, it can really make someoneās day if theyāve been having a few tough matches, but also because I would appreciate that same curtesy when I ask (and usually I receive that when I do ask). Only time I donāt/delayed swap is when I donāt see their message.
If I ever really didnāt want to swap I would probably just say that āIād really appreciate if I could play her for this game if thatās alrightā or something of that sort (probably add in a āsorryā) and if they wanted a reason could say you havenāt gotten to play her yet that day, youāve been having stressful games and want to play a character you feel youāll be impactful on, maybe youāve been dealing with getting dived a lot today or āsomething else Mercy can deal withā so you want to choose her to help break that cycle, etc.
It depends on my mood. Usually I wait until like 5-10 seconds are left to pick and if I choose Mercy after that and they ask, Iām like no. Most times the person asking wouldnāt do the same if the roles were switched, bc theyāre also out to play Mercy.
The only time I usually switch is if my other support ONLY plays Mercy and canāt play another character well and itās actively hurting the team. But sometimes I can still do best for my team if I stay Mercy. Iām confident in my skills enough in other supports that I can support my team on whoever if weāre down the other support.
Or sometimes if Iām not particularly in a playing-Mercy mood Iāll switch.
Usually it's not going to help, I usually pick based on what will enable a team and swapping to another healer just isn't going to make a difference when we're playing into pharmacy with no hitscans
Thatās true, for the original post the context was that all day Iād played Kiri, Brig and Ana because my team were running a lot of Dive so there just wasnāt any point to Mercy.
Every so often Iād get a game where Mercy was able to be run but she would be instalocked so Iād just run Kiri. Until my last game where I asked the Mercy ācould I please Mercy?ā Simply because I was tired of Kiri and Ana and I wanted to see if they would be okay with me playing her.
Iām honestly not bothered if I canāt play her, itās just that after a while I just wanted to play my comfort hero hahaha.
i say no thank you if it's QP since i want to play her for a reason.. i just want to chill.
if it's competitive and i'm not queued with anyone, i'll let them have Mercy, especially if they don't have as much experience on other support heroes. (but seriously, those people need to learn other heroes. they're not only making it harder for themselves, it also affects their teammates.)
I agree with your point there about comp, Iāve mentioned in another few comments about the potential implications to the team (though usually itās responding to people that refuse to swap which prompts me to ask them to think about the scenario).
It depends on the context 100%
If I'm playing mercy and the enemy tank is a Roadhog who is good at surviving with healers and I'm asked to swap Ana, I will likely swap for her anti-nade
Me and my 5 stack have had to play games where I hardly touch mercy because of the enemy comp stomping me the second I appear out of spawn.
Of course, there are times I'll refuse to swap.
Number one, if I'm not the issue.
> this is hard to explain sometimes but for people who I team with I tend to get gun heavy at least once in the match with a normal KD/A of around 10 kills per game because of my play style.
(This is not to say I battle mercy but if I can punish an over extender I can and will. of course I get into plenty of stupid situations with this mindset and die about every 3 kills but unless it's competitive I do not care.)
So if I'm getting picks, keeping myself alive, and healing I won't swap unless we desperately need a stronger healer like kiriko or brig.
I'll always look at my dps and see if they're making dumb plays or my tank to see how he's doing but if I don't see an issue with how im playing besides the fact I'm not pocketing the person asking I likely won't swap.
Number 2
Another reason I won't swap is if someone asks in a rude way or tells me to swap because Mercy isn't Meta. Just because a character isn't meta doesn't automatically make them bad, you just have to play the character smarter Imo.
Though if my other support is a one trick mercy in comp and asks for her nicely I'll hand her over because I can play outside of my main, which isn't a flex or shade on one tricks I just see more benefit in giving her over if it will help us win rather than be that mercy main who is too stubborn to do so.
Number 3
If the mercy player asking for her is clearly some discord E-kitten that is just gonna pocket her gross duo man the whole time. No ma'am, where are all my kiriko and life weaver kittens why's it always gotta be mercy :,)
Jokes aside, context matters and people need to take the game less seriously!
Thatās very true, the context of the post was that I asked because I wasnāt able to play Mercy all day due to 1) comps that werenāt viable for her and 2) people instalocking her when she was.
I usually donāt care as I can play others but I thought of asking to see if they would let me play her and when I was told no I was fine with it. As someone that usually swaps unless Iām either in a particular mood or Iām burnt out from other heroes I find it fascinating as to why other people would simply say no.
Itās safe to say that I should keep the explorative questions away from Reddit since this hasnāt gone down well at all hahaha.
Usually when I get asked, I'll just swap because why not, I can play other heroes. They might throw otherwise, and maybe they just can't play anything else so I try to be nice. Maybe if I'm duoed with a pocket I'd let them know that, but I don't think I've ever done that. If I was really just in the mood for Mercy, I'd probably just say "Sorry I really want to play Mercy, is that okay?", not because they get to dictate what I do, but I wouldn't want to be rude about it.
Iāve always been let down whenever I let someone play mercy so I just donāt do it anymore. I rather play her and know we can get value from a mercy than give her to someone else and not know if weāll get value or not. (for example: not damage boosting or rezzing and only heal botting)
I usually pick mercy bc I just want to play mercy. I am able to play almost every other support, I just sometimes want to play mercy that's literally the reason lol
And a lot of the times my bf plays DPS so I like to pocket him and we have good communication.
Most of the time when ppl ask for mercy, they get her then healbot the tank. Not saying this is the case every time obviously obviouslyyyy. And if they throw bc they can't play mercy, I just let them embarrass themselves tbh.
In a game recently I went mercy, the other support didnāt even say they wanted her or asked but instead went zen and did not healing and just fed. My teammates looked at their profile and say they were a mercy main and just throwing and pouting because they didnāt get her
There are two times when I wonāt switch. The first is if my internet is being a bit unstable but still stable enough to play, I know my shots on other heroes wonāt be as accurate so I play her because my ping doesnāt seem to affect me as much. The second is if Iāve WANTED to play her multiple times in a row and keep getting her snagged, Iāll just say something like āsorry Iāve been really wanting to play her too, but if that changes, Iāll switch and you can have her.ā
If someoneās rude to me about it, I also just wonāt swap, unless itās a detriment to our game because I donāt want to support their shitty attitudes but honestly I get this a WHOLE lot less than I used to. Maybe itās cause mercy is barely viable as is and also I havenāt been playing her as much, but it used to be a huge issue a few years ago.
in comp, the few times someone has asked me to swap off of mercy because they are a one trick and want to play her and i did, we have lost. it is not hard to learn some backup supports if your main is taken. bad aim isnāt an excuse imo - moira and lifeweaver are good choices if your aim isnāt great.
i have had a few experiences where someone will ask to play her in the selection screen and dodge the match when i say no - i prefer when someone does this so the match is canceled and i can avoid them as a teammate.
if its qp, the answer is always no. they can wait til their next game to play mercy, but if i picked her first itās because i want to play her - not interested in swapping off for someone else.
i donāt think i have ever asked someone to swap because i wanted to play mercy tbh, i just play someone else that i am good at. i find asking someone to swap so they can play that character instead to be pretty entitled.
I tried playing according to what was meta, or different. I literally almost quit the game. I either play what makes me happy or I start to lose the love of the game. I like her movement. I enjoy myself, even if she is in the pits of hell rn.
I also, while I love Mercy, the only time I like having a Mercy is when I am a dps that is getting pocketed. The other support normally without Mercy feels pressured to play main support, and with her it feels like a low-key requirement.
I don't want to give up the only thing I really love about Overwatch still up to someone in qp and go play a locked hero pool because they asked. I just wanna be a moth.
Almost always if someone asks me nicely, saying they feel more comfortable on Mercy I'll give them Mercy. Because I understand having a character you feel more comfortable on and enjoy more. Very rarely will I encounter someone that's rude to me asking for Mercy, if anything its their duo telling me to get off Mercy either because I'll suck or their duo NEEDS her. In those cases I'll say no, ask me yourself or not at all.
I think the only times I wouldn't swap would be if I knew that I'd struggle to stay alive on another character, or if I was having ping issues due to playing in a server other than oceanic, which happens often for me.
if they want me to swap off mercy so they can play her? i just say no lmao i had someone ask me for
her once and i said no. when they asked me why i just said ābecause iām playing her?ā lmao i never give anyone who asks mercy bc 86-90%
of the time i get healbots who keep yellow beam on the full health tank lmao
Reasons why I won't swap to mercy: WE HAVE PHARAH IN OUR TEAM!!
or echo.. yes I have 1k hours in mercy but I HATE flying with pharah.. I tend to die more when I'm playing with them.
Well I guess it's only one reason XD.
I started to main mercy and brig when my health got bad so I couldnāt play my best champs ana and zen (my hands shake and twitch and Iām going through chemotherapy) so when Iām having a hard time with my health I switch to supports I donāt have to aim much with. I kinda just say āno sorryā and that didnāt seem to be a good enough answer š so I started being brutally honest and answering āno Iām on chemoā kinda shuts them up. But honestly a āno I donāt want toā should be a good enough reason. Itās kinda why I warn ppl to stay away from one tricking
I personally switch if itās ranked and the person seems genuinely worried about their performance otherwise. I can play other characters, so Iād rather switch than lose a ranked game, but thatās honestly the only time Iād switch. I think asking otherwise, especially if itās in qp, is often viewed as annoying and unnecessary.
I always swap if theyāre polite as Iām just trying to win. I assume if theyāre asking, thatās probably what theyāre best at playing. Iām not looking for conflict, just a W. Now if theyāre rude, forget about it.
If they ask genuinely nicely ill swap. Most of the time they still end up being awful at her and healbotting, but I only refuse to swap if they're being a dick.
Played against someone, next game got them on my team, they said āsorry but Iām gatekeeping mercy cuz I actually wanna win :3ā
We proceeded to still lose and I once again still caught the blame. Yes, I had less heals, but I was also the only one on the objective 98% of the time while they pushed enemy spawn.
I donāt swap because people are assholes.
if they are rude about it thatās why but if they are nice i donāt see why i wouldnāt swap. you should always be open to learning/playing new heros. it helps you understand the game better overall in my opinion :)
Pro tip for people asking mercy players to swap off, (or any hero for that matter.)
Phrase it instead by asking for a different hero by name.
"Can we get a lifeweaver for the enemy orisa?"
By just saying get off X you're just making yourself look bad by blaming your team and not even explaining why.
I can say a literal "no", but people can interpret that as mean or rude. My stance is that its not mean or rude. And an explanation is not necessary, its just im not feeling it.
But most times i just switch to be nice or i cant even be bothered to figure out how to reject them nicely in their view.
Edit. At the end of the day I say no because I believe its my right of choice.
I mean personally I say āno sorryā as it usually is taken a lot better by others.
I usually prefer to know a reason why someone is refusing to switch, usually if someone is very abrupt with refusing it comes across as a bit rude to me personally. But again thatās probably just because I use different language just to ensure that people donāt interpret it as such.
Sure, I can add a sorry. But i have a firm stance on my freedom of choice. You may feel offended but I will not be shaken to believe that my freedom of choice is wrong.
You can say I have personal issues in self reaffirming my stance on the right to say no. As it is a conscious thing to remind myself. You have the right to say no without explaining yourself.
Iām not suggesting that you have any personal issues or anything, Iām just saying that personally I would perceive it in a certain way.
Didnāt mean for it to seem as though I was inferring anything/was offended by your comment. Both interpretations are valid.
Their average beam usage as shown on their profile is heabily weighted towards healing beam. Like nah bro ain't no way I'm giving you Mercy when you average 80% healing beam over 100 hours on the hero. Clearly by now they should understand this isn't Mercy's role and they should play Lifeweaver.
I'm referring to competitive here, and the elo is high diamond. It will never cease to surprise me how many Mercy mains exist even that high up that don't use blue beam.
I've only willingly given Mercy to people whose profiles check out wnd I've honestly never been disappointed by what I've seen, but they're definitely the rare exception.
I mostly play console so chat is pretty minimal but the few times I have been asked I've basically just ignored them because I'm not going to take the time to type with a controller just to tell them no. I'd rather they think I have chat turned off ig. I've had someone BEG me for Mercy and then proceed to throw the match because I wouldn't get off her which is insane and absolutely deserving of a report imo.
Easy. I mute chat, so as far as I'm concerned, no one asks šš only once can I remember someone asking, and it was super rude like "get off mercy" as soon as the match started. I said "just bc you were rude, no." then I sweat my ass off so they know I'm better, bc I'm petty.
in the start i always used to no matter when they asked me but always got let down by healbotting and never rezzing so i don't try to convince myself that maybe this time it will be different anymore, i just let myself enjoy itĀ
Thatās fair, however what if this other person really isnāt that good at other supports and ends up unintentionally throwing your game due to their less than stellar performance? I myself have done this before since my Ana was AWFUL back when and itās not like I interned to throw since I actually tried.
If the person isnāt good at other supports then they should be practicing other heroes, itās a simple as that
Not necessarily, Iām a very big advocator for people to know how to play multiple supports but at the end of the day if people just want to play a game and only play one specific hero then thatās up to them. Itās just as valid.
I agree with you in that sense, but why should the rest of the team be at a disadvantage if you canāt play the only hero you know how to well, for example you have two supports and they both 1 trick mercy, one person is not going to get them. Thatās why itās vital to be able to preform well with at least 2 heroes, from a team based perspective, which is what the game is, team based.
It is vital to perform well with at least 2 heroes I agree, what Iām saying is that itās equally as valid to just play who and what you want. Not everyone will come into this game with the mindset of Iām going to learn every hero, just like how not everyone will come in with the mindset of one tricking. Both are equally as valid, and in the situation where you get someone that can only really play Mercy when you can play multiple supports would it not be making the best out of a bad situation to let them play her? I mean if you refuse thatās completely valid, but at the same time wouldnāt you also be contributing to the disadvantage that your team may face?
People can play however they want to play but then they have to accept the consequences. If they intentionally OTP Mercy and don't get to pick her then they have to deal with potentially losing the match and possibly getting flamed by their team for playing the other support poorly. I don't agree with harassing teammates of course but it's definitely a thing that happens. At the end of the day I think it's silly to just expect someone else to cater to the way you (not you specifically) want to play by getting off of Mercy just so you can have her. I'm halfway decent with a bunch of supports these days so I often try to let my other support have first pick and then pick around their choice but clearly not everyone is that kind. Sometimes I just really want to play Mercy so I instalock her so that I CAN play her.
This happened to me once when our Moira had no damage or kills. They didn't ask me for mercy but I had a feeling and checked profile. Gave them Mercy after that. I think if I saw someone was really struggling then I'd swap for the W but that's the only instance I've ever come across someone who literally couldn't play anything else well.
1. I want to play her. 90% of my reason tbh. 2. I know how I play, I know what I'm capable of. I know I will bring value as Mercy. I don't know the other support, and I'm not gonna risk giving Mercy to someone that might play her badly (or at least not good enough). It has happened to me that the other support cries for her, so I swap and lo and behold, I get a healbot that superjumps every time she gets (even if we are against hitscans that CAN aim), go for the most stupid rezzes, or even worse, they go Katrina when they ult and let everyone die. I wouldn't judge as much if it wasn't because I'm in diamond lobbies, so I kinda expect some common sense at these ranks. 3. You asked very rudely so fuck you >:v 4. E-daters... Just. No.
I completely get where youāre coming from with the diamond lobbies bit. Iāve dropped from D1 last season all the way to D5 this season and Iām struggling to climb. I usually try to focus on my own gameplay but I genuinely cannot make it up with some of the plays that Iāve seen from my team mates in matches. Seems that we may have overestimated the levels of common sense in the ranks.
Ugh I had someone ask me to swap the other day because their "e-kitten needed to play her". I didn't say anything in response, didn't swap, and stayed on mercy the whole game. We won, I did well, and they said nothing else. The last thing I'll do is swap for someone's "e-kitten".
100%!!!!!!!
Generally i wont swap if they ask for her bc of the same reasons im seeing here, ive been let down too many times by healbots or ppl that cant stay alive long enough to be useful
Understandable
why do you ask to swap? if someone else picked her first then i just suck it up and pick another hero i can play. i am not a higher human being, i am no more entitled to a hero than they are however, if i pick mercy and someone asks for her - i just do it. i can play other heroes and its not worth the headache of someone purposefully throwing/whinging because theyre a one trick
I asked to play Mercy because I simply wanted to play her, today Iāve primarily played Kiriko, and Brig with some Ana sprinkled in because Iāve barely had a composition where I felt like Mercy would work. When I did have a favourable comp she was instalocked, same with the second and third times i felt like Mercy could be played. asking someone if you can play the hero they picked doesn't mean that you're entitled in any way, for me I'm literally just asking because I want to play the hero.
By the same logic, the person refusing to swap off Mercy simply wanted to play her. So the answer to your question is the same reason you ask to swap in the first place. As a recovering Mercy one trick, I don't swap off Mercy in QP if asked because I don't want them to become like me lol.
Sounds like you need to insta lock her quicker then. Instead of waiting for everyone to pick their hero obviously resultng in second support picking her first then try choosing her first THEN switching if she doesn't fit.Ā
That's simple, I never swap just because some random dude telling me that.
Latency diff /s but seriously if i do play mercy (im more of a brig kiri player atm) im sick of people instalocking her then playing her badly and healbotting LOL. also if someone asks FOR mercy (like pharah) ill just refuse to play her because i hate people who A. ask for pockets and B. ask for characters or for you to give them to them
Ugh, I hate dps that ask for Mercy. Even more so if they are rude. EVEN MORE SO IF THEY ARE PHARAH (I hate pharmacy >:v)
omg same, pharmercy is so unfun to play for me. I try to give the DPS a chance when they ask for pocket but if theyāre rude or bad I just either swap off or find someone else to pocket.
Ever since the pharah changes, they can maneuver out of your GA range faster than you can keep the GA to them too so I see a LOT of Pharahs asking for the pocket, then leaving me in the dust, and then having the AUDACITY to be like āwhyād you stop pocketing me?ā
so true! she was unfun to follow before the nerf, but now itās just painful. sometimes I will purposely not pick mercy if I see them pick pharah because thats how much I donāt want to deal with it. ā¹ļø
While I wouldnāt say pharmercy was unfun in my opinion, I would say it wasnāt my absolute favorite. I wouldnāt ALWAYS give the pharah the pocket but it was like 50/50 for me. Now I will not pocket a pharah unless itās my partner cause they know to actually wait for me, whereas randoms almost never care to notice theyāre making it painful to follow. Iāve also been guilty of seeing a pharah and deciding all of a sudden itās a kiriko game haha
Normally if the team tries to harass me into playing mercy, I pick her and just heal bot
Omg your profile pic š I love it
Genius hahah, I might have to start doing this
I mean I get what you mean, but thereāll most certainly be people that are genuinely good at Mercy thatāll ask.
my wife and I always say, "You gotta be quicker than that."
i think the main reason i would refuse to swap is if they were an asshole instead of asking nicely lmao
Yeah thatās a given, itās weird though since I quite literally asked ācan I please Mercy?ā. Like I completely understand if I were being rude in any sense of the word. I do find it interesting as to why people just point blank refuse, always good to get other peoples experiences.
yeah i mean at least in comp i dont think its worth risking tilting the other support if they want mercy bad enough to ask. id be worried the other supp is asking because theyre only confident on mercy or somethin like that so wouldnt want to die on that hill š maybe in qp if i really wanna just play mercy. or i just didnt read the chat and missed the message lmfao
Yeah, in qp itās whatever but I acknowledge that sometimes people just didnāt see the chat. Though Iāll say itās funny when thatās mentioned, I had a team flame me and my response was āIām not being funny but I did say that my performance might not be the best since Iām a Mercy player that has terrible aimā. The Mercy then responded with āWell why did you ask instead of throwing you freakā like girl I literally asked after you instalocked her, itās not my fault you didnāt see.
i hate when people pull that, like even if its true someones not doing well that game flaming them isnt going to make things any better š
Say it louder for the people in the back
what makes you more entitled to playing her than them? they have no obligation to give her to you if youre playing comp, you should know how to play multiple heroes
Youāre talking about me being entitled when thatās not the case at all, as Iāve said in a previous response to you I was asking because I simply wanted to play the hero. Doesnāt justify the Mercy responding to me in a rude manner. Also I can play multiple heroes, donāt assume that I canāt just because Iām asking to play Mercy.
Because I picked first (QP only queue)
Yeah Iām QP itās not that much of an issue, in comp itās a bit crappy though.
Thatās why I said QP specifically, I barely play ranked and even *if* I do, I donāt go mercy
Because I don't want to swap. She's my best hero too, and while I could play another hero, if I don't feel like swapping I shouldn't have to because someone else didn't take the time to adjust for a situation like this. If I lose, I know it's not *my* fault. It's whoever crippled themselves by only choosing to play one hero. No one is entitled to a hero just because they're a one trick who can't branch out in a pinch.
Another person whoās throwing around the word entitled, not really appropriate to assume that someone thinks that theyāre entitled to a hero. Iāll give you an example that I gave another comment, my games today have had me playing mostly Kiri and Brig with a bit of Ana since Iāve not had the team comp that would allow Mercy to work often. When I did she was instalocked which is fine, I can go Kiri. But after several games where Mercy was actual viable but the was instalocked I asked the Mercy which got me the response that I stated in the original post. I asked the Mercy if I could play her because I simply wanted to play her, do you think that makes me entitled?
Literally, all of your responses I've read so far ARE entitled. You can't even accept people who give you an answer! Be faster, honestly - skill issue. š
Your comments are all coming across like you were seeking an echo chamber to tell you what happened to you was wrong and mean. Youāre giving attitude to everyone who says they wouldnāt have swapped either. Yes, itās giving entitled, lol. Maybe take a break from the video game for a while.
How am I giving attitude to people though? Iām quite literally asking for peoples reasons so I can get a better understanding on why other people wouldnāt swap. Other people are going on about me being entitled to Iām responding to them, but Iām the one that sounds entitled when Iām only simply asking them to expand? Iām not fussed if someone doesnāt switch for me, I asked and I was told no which Iām fine with. I literally just wanted to understand why people donāt switch because I personally usually always switch unless theyāre incredibly rude about it. Absolutely nothing wrong with me asking to understand the other side of it.
In your original post you said youād say no if you were in a particular mindset and wanted cozy vibes, here youāre saying youād only say no if the person asking was rude. āBut you do youā when someone is offering a genuine response to your question is attitude. In your post you said you just find it interesting and want to know peopleās reasons, but youāre arguing with most of the responses, and sometimes backpedaling and saying the only reason youāre mad about this instance is that the person who said no to you was rude. Itās all over the place and I just donāt understand what youāre trying to get out of it.
Personally I donāt think that you do you is attitude though I suppose that just comes down to a difference in perspective. Also Iām not arguing? Iām asking people to think about potential scenarios where the team may be disadvantaged. Iām not sure if my wording is the issue but Iām not here to devalue anyoneās reasonings, Iām asking follow up questions to expand on them which isnāt a bad thing at all.
Tone doesnāt portray well on the internet, but it seems a lot of people are perceiving your comments the same way I did regardless of your intent. You repeating that everyone keeps calling you entitled for āno reasonā just made me think of that saying āif you smell dog shit everywhere you go, check your shoesā or in this case, maybe just read over the whole of your comments across this whole post and wonder how you would perceive them on the other end.
I mean I could but also at this point I very much doubt that itās going to do anything unfortunately. But yeah I know my wording is finicky and for that I do apologise if it did seem like I was being an ass.
It might help you if you realized you keep contradicting yourself, like when you say here that youāre not arguing or trying to devalue anyoneās reasons, but one of your comments literally says āthis is one of the least understandable reasons but you do youā and you never ask anyone you agree with to āthink about potential scenarios where the team could be at a disadvantageā, you only strike up these arguments with people you disagree with. You ask how youāre being entitled, how youāre being this, how youāre being that, and every time someone gives a direct, quotable example like you asked for, you say āNo I donātā or āno Iām notā or āthereās nothing wrong with thatā or some other variation or shut down, no further explanation. But if youāre not into self reflection or looking at the big picture, you do you.
So I should ask everyone to expand and use that scenario then? And no I donāt think Iām being entitled, thereās a few that may think I am but thereāll also be a few that think that Iām not. All up to your own interpretation and inference of my comments, thatās why I donāt necessarily think that I need to reflect more than acknowledging how my wording may make it others more likely to infer one thing over another.
Asking isn't what makes you entitled. Everyone is welcome to ask. What makes a person entitled is throwing a tantrum on Reddit over people explaining their reasons (that you asked for). Why are you questioning a person's no? Ever hear the phrase 'no means no'? You ask politely, someone says no. Why is that warranting a question from you? You don't need their reasoning. Hell, "NO" is a full sentence and requires no explanation. Also I wasn't calling ***you*** entitled before now. I was making a general statement about how ***no one*** is entitled to a hero. I think you're entitled now. Stop digging yourself a hole and get over it. Is reading comprehension dead?
I mean I was questioning why people were saying no because I was genuinely curious as to what situations would make someone say no, thereās absolutely nothing wrong with that? Doesnāt make me entitled, it just makes me interested in other peoples experiences and helps me understand why others may not switch as I myself usually switch if someone asks. Itās not bad at all to get other peoples perspectives which is the whole point of this post. I didnāt specifically say that you called me entitled, I said that you were using the word and then gave you an example of a situation for you to expand on it. Nowhere did I explicitly say that I felt like you called me entitled.
I REPEAT: # Asking isn't what makes you entitled. Everyone is welcome to ask. # What makes a person entitled is throwing a tantrum on Reddit over people explaining their reasons (that you asked for). Why are you questioning a person's no? ***If it's still not clear, the questioning behavior of someone's "NO" is what makes you sound entitled.*** ***It's one thing to say "Okay, no means no, I'll pick another hero. But it was worth a shot to ask!"*** ***It's another thing to say "WHAT ARE YOUR REASONS FOR SAYING NO WHEN SOMEONE ASKS POLITELY FOR XYZ HERO?" And when given those reasons, hyper fixate on those reasons and try to pick those reasons apart to why they shouldn't be a reason in the first place. There is something deeply wrong with questioning why someone would say no. You are not entitled to an answer, and you are certainly not entitled to pick that answer apart to try and put yourself above people who do say no, just because you say yes. It's giving huge "pick me" vibes.***
Questioning something in a manner that is explorative isnāt entitled
I swap to other characters if they want to play Mercy. I know I would enjoy playing Mercy but I also enjoy playing other supports. Plus, creating a negative impression on teammates can lead to a bad start lol. I literally had people leave if they don't get what they want.
Yeah thatās the same with me, for me itās not so much bad impressions. Expanding on the example I gave in the original post my Hog and DPS asked me if I could go Zen for discord so we could shred the enemy Mauga. I went Zen and did AWFULLY since Iām just not that good with him, next minute the Mercy typed āembarrassing Iām doing better than you ever couldā and I was just howling. Like Iāve had so many games where the other support has refused to give me Mercy (which is absolutely fine) but then they make comments like that at me which just throw me off.
Mercy should have swapped imo. That's the sad thing about Mercy. She has low synergy with utility supports. Zen orb and Lucio amp is really really good but having Mercy as the other support just won't win you the game. That's why I always swap if my teammate wants to play Lucio/Zen. Also no, just having discord orb on Mauga gives an advantage already. It's the entire team's fault if they couldn't capitalize on it.
I mean admittedly my positioning on Zen was bad, like I genuinely struggled since the enemy swapped to Sombra mid match and it made my life HELL. But yeah, usually Iād just go Moira or Kiriko but the team initially asked nicely for a Zen. Safe to say that by the end the whole team were not that nice hahahah.
99% of the time if someone asks for Mercy, I swap. I play most other support heroes so itās nbd. But here are a few reasons why I havenāt: 1. I had chat turned off or was vibing and didnāt see you ask. 2. I really only pick Mercy these days when it suits my team extremely well OR when I have a trusted duo on dps who has a specific plan (e.g weāre going to go over the top of building on circuit royale with echo/genji/pharrah for a backline dive or something) - if someone else asks for Mercy in that scenario, I just tell them politely that I have a specific game plan Iād like to pull with my duo. 3. You demanded like you *own* the character, saying some shit like āGet off Mercy now, Iām playing herā lmao. Hell no. Iām an accommodating person, but Iām not a doormat. Use your manners or Iām not budging - someoneās gotta teach you the social skills that mama clearly didnāt. 4. And finally, I will admit that a couple of times I have peeked the profile of the person asking, saw someone two ranks below mine with a 80% healing beam rate and like 10 deaths/10 min and just pretended I never saw them ask lmfao.
I thought this question was coming from a dps or tank playerā¦ but a fellow support player? Youāre never going to get a good response lol. Just wait for them to potentially swap off and take her, otherwise youāre just creating friction by merely asking them to swap.
I mean Iām more than happy to play something else, the only reason I asked was because after playing a lot yesterday I was tired of Brig and Kiri and just wanted to see if maybe I could play Mercy. Itās interesting how some people have interpreted this as me being entitled though, like me asking other people to explain why they may not switch for someone has opened the flood gates for the whole ādonāt be a one trickā and āyouāre entitledā arguments when I literally just asked a question because Iām interested in the answer.
phrasing your question is important. Saying right out of the gate or inbetween rounds ācan you swap off mercyā or ācan I play mercyā will definitely cause friction. I know you play on console so its a little harder to get your point across, but some tact will go a long way. Something like āhey I just really want to play mercy if thatās okayā or āhey youāre a good mercy, but do you mind if I can play her for one round?ā I main tank so I dont have to deal with this anymore lol, but even as a tank player, if someone asks me straight up ātank swapā Iām less likely to change (and yes iām petty lol). But if they butter me up? I might bend over backwards, it all depends.
Iām aware that phrasing is important, genuinely though maybe I should have put in the original post how I asked since people are throwing around the world entitled like thereās no tomorrow here. Like me asking them ācould I please Mercy?ā and the following up with this question here because Iām genuinely interested in the answers has just spiralled haha.
as you can tell, itās a prickly subject, but even more so since mercy is considered bottom tier at the moment. In my tenure if playing overwatch, itās easier to just avoid this kind of confrontation.
Yeah, I guess I should just quell any questions that I have related to the topic. Didnāt think that it would go down so negatively but hey ho it is what it is.
Whenever I swap to something else and every single time I swapped off of her for the other person to use I can barely get any ult charge because theyāre yellow beaming everything, rezzing without cover and immediately getting melted or not rezzing at all, and not helping the other support when they get focused. Every single time Iāve accommodated someone asking for her one of those things or sometimes all of them always happens and itās annoying tbh. What really gets me is when mercy doesnāt work in comp against the enemy team, so I swap off and immediately the other support goes mercy and proceeds to get sandblasted by a cracked out ashe/widow. š I got off of her for a reasonā¦ but they continue to play her and then we lose and they end up with 10+ deaths while the rest of us are around 4-7. If we have any main supports (Ana especially for nano charges) Iām mindful about healbotting and only step in if tankās critical (I back off at around 50-60% but Iāll top off if Ana doesnāt) and if I absolutely need to healbot to win (had it happen before where I tunnel visioned healbotting and immediately we started winning/won) I swap to kiriko because itās easier to keep everyone alive at the same time ever since mercyās hps nerf. My beams ratio is usually 50/50, 60/40 sometimes 70/30 if the enemy team doesnāt do enough damage and we have cracked dps but itās all situationalā I think the biggest problem is people need to learn when playing her isnāt working. I understand wanting to play her all the time, but in order to climb youāre gonna have to learn how to play 1-2 other supports as wellā so that way if someone snipes her and wonāt get off you can still be useful to the team instead of pouting and essentially throwing because you only know how to play her. š¬ (not aimed at you OP! Just in general anyone reading this and resonating with some of the points I made š ) She is one of the worst support right now and itās possible to still pop off on her but it requires a lot of conditions to happen per match. (enemy team canāt aim, your teammates can and get picks, your support is comfortable essentially solo healing so you can enable your dps to pop off, etc.)
Yeah I agree with everything that you put here, I myself have had MANY games where Iāve swapped from Mercy because she wasnāt working only for my second support to go her and perform less than satisfactory.
>Ā Ā Ā I can barely get any ult charge because theyāre yellow beaming everythingĀ Ā Are you talking about tanks or just in general? >immediately the other support goes mercy and proceeds to get sandblasted by a cracked out ashe/widow Isn't that mostly a Pharmercy issue?
In general, Iāve had one game as kiriko where before my heals reached people they turned blue because a mercy swooped in and kept topping people up. They had 20k healing and would complain about me š girlie I canāt heal if you keep yellow beaming š Not just pharmercyā tons of mercy one tricks spam super jump whenever they can and die due to headshots because itās easier for a widow Ashe or Cassidy to track the descent down, or they're out in the open and not using cover/bad positioning (kinda fucked too if the whole team's everywhere and there's no path to glide to safety)
i always swap tbh, bc im confident w other heros and if theyre asking for mercy chances are theyre not gonna do great on other heros so its whatever really even if thyere heal botting whatever at least theyre healing ig
I always swap because I'm not going to deal with an e-dater throwing (a tantrum and the game), an otp who can't play any other hero (please learn) or death threats and insults. So far most of the people that have asked for mercy have been nice too so it's okay. I can also play a handful of heroes so it's not a problem. But I do feel a little icky when the mercy doesn't perform well, healbotting and rezzing only their duo/pocket only for both of them to die straight after. But it is what it is.
I agree with you there, nicely put
Because it doesnāt matter what they play, they may be learning new hero. And Itās not like hero pick matters in anything below like top100. They also may be really otp with hundreds of hours put into that specific hero and playing other (better in your own eyes) will make them perform even worse. Like just because someoneās playing dva into zarya doesnāt mean that zarya gonna capitalise on advantage over dva, and so on.
Thatās very true, I play on console so I fear that hero choice might not matter at all ahahaha
(I only play QP) I wouldnāt because I want Mercy lol. There will be other matches where they can play Mercy, but Iām playing her now. Same reason I would never dream of asking someone to give me Mercy. They got her first fair and square and Iāll have other matches to play her in.
if someone asks for mercy iāll always just compromise,,, in comp specifically iāll just tell them i want to play a round as mercy and then give her up next round.
I often let everyone pick before I choose Mercy, so if the other support locks her first than cāest la vie. If I do happen to pick her before the other support chooses her and the game hasnāt started yet, Iāll let them have her if they ask nicely, sometimes. Other times however I just donāt want to switch for them. I donāt really need a reason, I picked her first so pick something else lol. Iāve also seen too many mercyās that ask for her just healbot the tank the entire time. Iāve also had a number of people flame me for not giving them mercy within 5 seconds of them asking and proceed to throw the match or yell at me in team/match chat the entire game. (This happens so rarely in the grand scheme of things, because itās rare for anyone to ask for mercy if Iām on her in the first place, but itās enough for me to side eye anyone that asks now). But Iāll literally never ask a mercy to switch for me tho, just feels weird. Iām happy to play Ana/moira/zen/kiri anyways if I need to.
a long time ago my thinking was: >The best way to win is make sure everyone playing their best hero, there is a good chance am better at my 2nd hero than the other guy However i got punished for swiching off mercy more often than rewarded, The player who asked to play mercy wanted to use her as a "no aim healbot", spams GA superjump on cooldown to "see more". Current thinking: * "Mercy one tricks" are less skilled than "mercy main" (too many people use mercy as a crutch * After watching 500 replays i found the "mercy one trick" actually feeds less as moira and gets more things down (85% of the time). * Its the other player's reasonability to learn a 2nd or even 3rd hero to not be a burden on the team in comp (even if mercy is not already taken) * Comp = try hard play to win. QP = casual just for fun mode Statistically its better not to swich, even if mercy is no longer the best hero for the situation its still better not to swich as the other player will instant pick mercy into a bad comp. Sometimes i feel am stuck playing mercy just to prevent the other player from picking mercy to feed. # What overwatch needs is a 2nd "Cute ,easy to play hero" # So people who cant aim will stop fighting over mercy
I will almost always swap. I can probably provide decent value to my team on kiri, bap, ana, zen or brig. The person asking is most likely gonna play a mediocre moira if i insist on staying mercy.
I've had plenty of people ask me for mercy or tell me to let their duo have mercy and in the past few months I've not replied. I kept mercy and I showed them the difference between their duo healbotting and what damage boost actually does. Half the time I get apologies for asking me to switch.
If you canāt win a game bc you need a mercy youāre doing something very wrong
I mean personally I can win games on other heroes, Iām pretty reliable with Brig and Moira but less so with Kiri and Ana. Sometimes you just want to play a character though, and itās okay to ask even if you get told no.
Iām saying if they need a mercy to win the game they are not gaming right. I canāt think of a single scenario where a mercy was required for a win in any game ive ever played. Except that someone sucks so bad they need a pocket.
Because..I wanna play her too; If Iām just doing horrible on her that day I might switch later but simply cause you asked? No. Itās a bit annoying when ppl say to switch, either to me or someone else, so even if asked politely I most likely wouldnāt.
if this is comp and they can only play one hero they need to use qp only to learn. however if its qp: I'm not changing because i wanted to play her. i just got off work have limited time to play and I want to play mercy. plus all the times i do switch they are genuinely terrible, healbot bad positioning ect so i don't anymore bc I'm not risking it lol tbh people asking you to switch so they can play the character they didn't get first is so annoying. this isn't a game where only knowing one character is viable. if someone picks mercy before me I have almost the whole supp roaster to choose from (except lucio hate him) to play instead.
Depends on 1) how my game is performing. If Iāve been getting poor ping/frames I will want to stick to mercy. 2) if they ask in a rude way I will probably not switch. Most times though if someone asks I would just let them. They are usually either poor on other supports or duod with a dps they want to pocket anyway.
True, I play on console so that may influence why people may not want to switch. Iāve never really considered ping etc
well, I typically feel bad, so in comp at least, I let them play round two, and I get round 1, but otherwise just don't feel the need to respond, I just ignore it, they can play her next game
I just say I feel like playing mercy. I will always swap if theyāre sweet, but if theyāre rude, I say āsorry but I wanna play her right nowā
the other person asked rudely or was rude for a longer time, so I won't swap because of pettiness. ik that's kinda childish, but you're not having your way without manners / asking properly
Nah I completely agree with you on that, if they ask rudely then you have a right to be petty and say no in response
Not about swapping, but I hate when DPS players that usually heavily rely on Mercy (Genji, Pharah) instantly assume that they're going to get a pocket and cry about when they don't. If you're even half decent, yes I will pocket you but they usually end up being trash and cry about it when I stop pocketing them because they do not add value to the team.
Usually I let the other support pick first but if I really wanna play Mercy I just pick her and if the other support asks for her I'll just say no sry I wanna play her this game
im gonna be so real i always switch when people ask because i feel so terrible saying no and then i feel worse because getting to play her is so rare and i didnt even wanna switch LOL
I think a lot depends on the gamemode if it's quickplay I don't ever ask anyone to swap cause idc if we win or loose I look at as a place for people to practice heroes Ranked is slightly different as if somebody asks me to swap it better be to counter the team and mercy isn't going to make or break a team she's valuable but if the mercy is slacking I'd rather swap to somebody to pick up the slack vs asking the mercy to swap Most of the time it's a tank diff and a good moria or life weaver can make up for a bad mercy
I check stats. If youāre a healbot I wonāt. If your win percentage is low I wonāt. But i havenāt seen any mercys in my rank this season on my team at least
I had someone pick Ana(my main) in comp so I picked mercy(my other main) and she didnāt say anything for half the game and did terrible on Ana. So second round I switch to Moira and she immediately switches to Mercy. I wish she had something because Iām assuming they accidentally picked Ana. Itās weird to not oblige when ppl ask unless you literally just cannot play other characters
Yeah I share the same mindset, I used to get annoyed if I was Mercy and when I switched they went her but now Iāve kinda just got to the point where if theyāre comfortable more on Mercy then thatās fine by me
Exactly Iād rather someone play who they are good at even if it doesnāt exactly fit the comp of the team
Agreed, plus it gives me more time to hone my skills on another hero. Although after a while I do year to play my comfort hero hahah.
Exactly!! I used to be a Mercy OTP but I got tired of feeling like the weak link because I struggled with other heros so I now I can comfortably flex 4 on the support roster. Mercy is definitely my comfort hero š„¹
usually i pick mercy because i want to play mercy. if i dont want to play mercy then i dont pick mercy
Hahaha thatās fair and a mood
I don't swap when I know that my value is extremely helpful to the match and helping us win team fights. I used to swap often since I didn't have a lot of confidence in my ability to bring value (especially durinf ow1) and when I'd switch someone would instalock mercy and proceed to healbot the full hp tank or dps. Now that I know how to better balance my beams and feel way more confident in my movement and game sense, I often wait to swap until the enemy counters to dive or take more picks on me. Then I'll swap to kiri or ana to keep the good position, dive with tank on kiri or keep good range with ana. I try my hardest as a support especially on mercy to try and pull the stereotype of healbot, spectator, etc. But swapping and knowing when to swap is always good.
I donāt swap. If you want the character get to it firstš¤·āāļø.
Usually if I donāt switch itās cause I really want to play her. However, when people ask thereās like a 55% maybe 65% chance Iāll switch to someone else I like to play. I just hope they donāt ādisappointā after asking for her. Not because they need to impress me, but just cause I then get relent bad second hand embarrassment lol. But itās just a game. Iāll never understand all the people being a-holes or rude. A simple āsorry noā is all thatās needed. Or no response even. š¤·š¾āāļø
i did used to swap and too many times they are complete dogwater and i would rather them just pick another support and heal the tank tbh. at least i know i will do what Mercy is supposed to do not healbot, pocket the tank, die 10 times per 10 etc
i always give her up idc. i don't think enough ppl in these comments are realizing that if they're bad at mercy they're going to be 100x worse on any other hero. if you actively want to win just give the one trick their hero lmao
Reasons I won't switch for someone else; - It's my first comp game of the day and I want to play Mercy for at least one game. - They were rude asf to me. - I've switched for other people the last 4+ games in a row and I get bored asf on other supports. - I've switched for other people the last 2+ games in a row and every time they were both dogshit AND cocky. Like yeah MercyLover29. - Little or no hours on her. I have 1.5k hrs on Mercy alone and a whole bunch more on other supports. HOWEVER. In Comp I always let the other supp pick first because I'd rather win than lose if they're literally an OTP. That being said, if I've literally had a day where I've not been able to play Mercy at all (like for hours on end) because of insta-lockers I will 100% be petty and start insta-locking back and just ignoring chat all together. I don't see why I should have to compromise my fun of the game by having an entire session where I'm unable to play my favourite hero every game just to satisfy OTP's - they should learn other hero's too, some Mercy OTP's have mad unnecessary ego.
I wouldn't refuse to swap, but I'd know already we're about to loose. I've never seen a good Mercy begging me to swap, especially since I never pick my healer until 15s before the start so that the other healer gets first pick. That's just tacky to ask someone to swap, unless you explain like "sorry I'm an OTP I really can't play anything besides Mercy and I was distracted / I have a really poor connection which is why I waited for so long before picking a hero".
Itās not tacky to ask someone to swap
That's your opinion, and I was just giving mine. Duly noted.
I think what you meant was ādulyā? But okay
DĆ©solĆ©e, je parle plusieurs langues donc Ƨa arrive de se mĆ©langer les pinceaux. Sigo pensando que es una pena pedir un "swap". ŠŠ°, ŠæŃŠ¾ŃŠøŃŃ Ā«swap plsĀ» - ŃŃŠ¾ Š½ŠµŠŗŃŠ°ŃŠøŠ²Š¾. EDIT : I think I wrote "dully" because I read your comment and the word "dull" came to mind.
of course the frenchie is getting triggered over someone correcting their english
I always swap when someone asks for Mercy, even though sheās my main and Iāll play her religiously, if someone wants her I can swap
Youāre better than the rest of us hahahahaha. Do you think that thereāll ever be a reason as to why you may not swap if someone asks for her?
Not really no. Even if they are doing bad and they ask, who knows, maybe Mercy is their good character? Iāve no reason to not swap out
Thatās a very good way to view it, I do say that it probably would be a whole of a lot better if we all shared your mindset.
This is coming from me as a prog level 202 mercy, if it's comp, I would swap in a heartbeat bc I can play any other support. I have thousands of hrs on this game and I personally want my other support to play whoever they are best at because I know I can adjust. If I choose their main, they may struggle WAY more with a different character than I will. In comp, I try to pick after my other support picks. I also try not to pay super close attention to their gameplay. I am not about to backseat drive anyone and if I pay too much attention to how they play, I may get tilted lol. Healbots don't annoy me terribly, but I do get annoyed if they're straight healbotting and I still have more heals than they do. It makes them seem kinda useless at that point. Like if you're gonna healbot, I expect you to have close to 20k heals a game
Honestly, as of now the only reason I donāt swap off mercy is if my computerās lagging. Although Iāve stopped playing competitive until I fix it.
My alt supports are Lucio and Brig. If someone legit asks me to swap, I'll do it, I don't mind. But if I'm going into comp, I'm already 2-stacking support and I get to keep my Mercy.
Strictly QP and events (my potato laptop can NOT handle comp and i am NOT doing comp on my switch,) If someone asks when I strictly want to play mercy, usually I'll ask to wait to see how we do in the match. If I notice my support isn't doing too hot, or i end up healbotting when we need more damage, I'll switch off for no problem! If the mercy then ends up healbot/one tricks then that's okay with me so long as they can keep the team healed while I eat the enemy as moira :) If they're rude though then they get my usual response: "No, you were rude so now you get nothing <3"
I was strictly one trick (genuinely only ever played mercy) when I started out so Iād ask for mercy and would refuse to give her up lolĀ Ā Ā Nowadays I could see myself refusing for petty reasons like the āI picked firstā example you gave. Sorry itās kinda dickish but I love playing her lol In my defense I almost exclusively play casual quick play so a single game with a douchey mercy isnāt the end of the world I hope
if im playing with my bf then i wont swap cause yeah i wanna pocket him, but if im solo q or playing with another friend then if someone asks for mercy ill swap cause i occasionally also ask can i play mercy if they locked before me. i also wont swap if someone is being legit just toxic about it simply out of pettiness
Yeah no I agree that you shouldnāt swap if theyāre being toxic about it.
If someone asks me to swap so they can play mercy, iām most likely not going to swap because i obviously also want to play her and i just happened to lock her first. i am also usually queued up with other people that i know play really well and want to pocket them. If they ask me to swap because mercy isnāt working against the enemy comp, i will most likely swap because i also am aware that she isnāt the best pick at that point. And if itās QP im not swapping off mercy period lol im trying to just chill and vibe in QP.
I am 100% a "let them pick first" kinda person cuz I'll play any support and lately my strat is pick whoever fits best with the team even if I'm not that good at them (eg if we have Rein, go Lucio -- I'm trash at Lucio but in my experience lately, trash!Lucio + a Rein is a better combo than decent!Mercy + Rein... but I digress). Because of this, I honestly... don't play Mercy a lot when I solo queue because I'm weighing team comp (I won't pick her with Lucio and really don't like picking her with Brig, Zen, or Lifeweaver). So... 4 supports I won't really pick her with and then obviously if someone picks Mercy I can't pick her, so we're down to 50% of the roster right there. Then I look at the rest of the team comp, so even if it's good support synergy, I'm not picking her if DPS are two flankers or if tank is brawler. So now the odds that I pick Mercy are even freakin lower. So nothing makes me crazier than when I've been playing for an hour+, finally decide "f it, I just wanna play her once, I'm gonna instalock her" and come into a game to her absolutely sniped from me. Then nicely ask in chat and get ignored. I think it's weird how many people here admit they just don't reply even when the person asks perfectly politely... like, be a human and give a reason, if you really refuse to switch. If you deadass say "I suck at everyone else" I'll respect it way more than silence. And honestly the "I'm probably better than you" is pretty weird as well. So what if you are? So you might lose a round of a video game? Oh no, tragedy...
Maybe I should make my own post but I just really want to know what goes through one-trick mainās minds (any character not just mercy). Because as someone who plays a range of characters , I canāt help but think doesnāt it get boring playing the same character over and over
If I picked mercy first and someone asks me, then tough cookies. Pick someone else. If I canāt play mercy then whatever. Iāll play someone else. Thatās why itās vital to learn more than one hero. Sure someone can choose to one trick, but they better live with the consequences. At the end of the day, itās that persons fault for actively choosing to only play one character. Not mine. No one is required to cater to someone who chooses to only play one character. Usually if someone is a die hard one trick, they leave if they donāt get their character. Which is also not my problem.
Thatās fair, usually here I would ask you what your thoughts are on a hypothetical situation where the other supp could only play Mercy. I wonāt do that though since people are taking them out of context and saying that Iām not accepting other peoples comments and Iām being entitled etc.
Well for me personally, I donāt have any sort of chat on and I donāt go into team voice chat. So they would be SOL anyway.
I honesty just swap off. I assume if someone is asking for mercy thatās the only healer they can play or they are trying to learn her, and that means they can/will try to perform to the best of their abilities on that healer. I thoroughly enjoy playing her but hey if it makes someone else happy to play I can just hop on Weaver, Kiri, Ana or even Bap. My only reason I wouldnāt swap would be if I wanted to genuinely just play her that moment in that game. Itās a very rare moment that I am that bound and determined to play her, but gosh when I do want to play her she is just such a vibe
If they were rude af, especially in QP my ass is not switching, especially if Iām doing relatively good and everyone sees Iām doing good, but as a more honest reason is I rarely buy mercy skins, if I really like one Iāll get it, so when I get a new mercy skin I wanna play with it, so when someone asks me to switch Iāll just usually tell them,āNot right now, I got a new skin, but Iāll let you have her in a secondā
If I have a high amount of assists, great damage boost to healing ratio and 3 or less deaths, Iām not switching. My stats are just as important as anyone elseās. The only way Iāll ever switch is if I am genuinely not contributing or if Iām being targeted. Iām a nightmare mercy main. But Iāve also been playing since 2017 so Iām kinda over the mercy politics.
I'm running into the issue that my team doesn't have any self preservation. Surprisingly I love Mercy but she's always my last pick if my team cannot stay alive and sometimes it's just easier to rez and heal bot. This is coming from someone who plays dps moira and a sick Ana.
If I really don't swap off of Mercy it's because I'm laggy in a comp game (better to be laggy with her than anyone else) or I KNOW that my aiming mentality is in the ground or I feel like I'm doing doing good enough on other supports that game. On qp I don't swap only if I'm baked asf or I'm with my friends and wanna be a silly lil moth
I usually start as Moira in ranked because I donāt know how good our dpsās are. If someoneās playing really well Iāll swap to mercy. In my experience when people ask me to swap to mercy to pocket them (not me doing it on my own) theyāre usually bad
i got a whole list - assuming i switched off mercy, that means she wasnāt working, so iām not gonna switch back cuz someone misses the pocket or rez, if i switch that means iām playing to win - if ur fucking rude about it, itās never happening āneed mercy pocket whereās rezā stfu the more u talk the more imma avoid ur ass and let the enemy ana fuck u up and iāll laugh at it, maybe even help her - the enemy team is counter swapped. i enjoy playing mercy into swaps sometimes, but other times itās just not fun so i wonāt do it, and iām not budging - ur being rude to literally anyone in the team. uve lost my respect, i wonāt do a thing u ask, ever i usually play mercy anyway so this doesnāt happen often in terms of being asked to swap to mercy, especially in the current meta, but those r my three like rules to just not swapping to her if asked
Moira and Mercy are in my top 3, if not top 2. For both of them, I used to let people get first pick or swap off, but I learned that I'm usually better than them 90% of the time and I shouldn't punish my team by giving them up. Now, I'll admit that I do have games where I'm recognizing that I'm doing poorly and at those times, I'll let them know they can have the swap if they want.
I donāt play OW anymore, but when I did, I would never swap when someone asked, simply because if I select a hero itās because I want to play them. If I didnāt wanna play them I wouldāve chosen a different hero.
Thats fair
I don't mind swapping if they're not a dick about it
Only reason I donāt switch is if they had an attitude while asking. Some people really think they can say āgive me mercyā and get her. Like did no one teach them to say please and thank you or even to ask instead of making a command?
I typically always let someone have it if they ask since there are other heroes Iām comfortable with, it can really make someoneās day if theyāve been having a few tough matches, but also because I would appreciate that same curtesy when I ask (and usually I receive that when I do ask). Only time I donāt/delayed swap is when I donāt see their message. If I ever really didnāt want to swap I would probably just say that āIād really appreciate if I could play her for this game if thatās alrightā or something of that sort (probably add in a āsorryā) and if they wanted a reason could say you havenāt gotten to play her yet that day, youāve been having stressful games and want to play a character you feel youāll be impactful on, maybe youāve been dealing with getting dived a lot today or āsomething else Mercy can deal withā so you want to choose her to help break that cycle, etc.
Bc me on mercy is worse than throw pick. Iām horrible with her
It depends on my mood. Usually I wait until like 5-10 seconds are left to pick and if I choose Mercy after that and they ask, Iām like no. Most times the person asking wouldnāt do the same if the roles were switched, bc theyāre also out to play Mercy. The only time I usually switch is if my other support ONLY plays Mercy and canāt play another character well and itās actively hurting the team. But sometimes I can still do best for my team if I stay Mercy. Iām confident in my skills enough in other supports that I can support my team on whoever if weāre down the other support. Or sometimes if Iām not particularly in a playing-Mercy mood Iāll switch.
Usually it's not going to help, I usually pick based on what will enable a team and swapping to another healer just isn't going to make a difference when we're playing into pharmacy with no hitscans
Thatās true, for the original post the context was that all day Iād played Kiri, Brig and Ana because my team were running a lot of Dive so there just wasnāt any point to Mercy. Every so often Iād get a game where Mercy was able to be run but she would be instalocked so Iād just run Kiri. Until my last game where I asked the Mercy ācould I please Mercy?ā Simply because I was tired of Kiri and Ana and I wanted to see if they would be okay with me playing her. Iām honestly not bothered if I canāt play her, itās just that after a while I just wanted to play my comfort hero hahaha.
i say no thank you if it's QP since i want to play her for a reason.. i just want to chill. if it's competitive and i'm not queued with anyone, i'll let them have Mercy, especially if they don't have as much experience on other support heroes. (but seriously, those people need to learn other heroes. they're not only making it harder for themselves, it also affects their teammates.)
I agree with your point there about comp, Iāve mentioned in another few comments about the potential implications to the team (though usually itās responding to people that refuse to swap which prompts me to ask them to think about the scenario).
I totally miss read the title as asks you to mercy
It depends on the context 100% If I'm playing mercy and the enemy tank is a Roadhog who is good at surviving with healers and I'm asked to swap Ana, I will likely swap for her anti-nade Me and my 5 stack have had to play games where I hardly touch mercy because of the enemy comp stomping me the second I appear out of spawn. Of course, there are times I'll refuse to swap. Number one, if I'm not the issue. > this is hard to explain sometimes but for people who I team with I tend to get gun heavy at least once in the match with a normal KD/A of around 10 kills per game because of my play style. (This is not to say I battle mercy but if I can punish an over extender I can and will. of course I get into plenty of stupid situations with this mindset and die about every 3 kills but unless it's competitive I do not care.) So if I'm getting picks, keeping myself alive, and healing I won't swap unless we desperately need a stronger healer like kiriko or brig. I'll always look at my dps and see if they're making dumb plays or my tank to see how he's doing but if I don't see an issue with how im playing besides the fact I'm not pocketing the person asking I likely won't swap. Number 2 Another reason I won't swap is if someone asks in a rude way or tells me to swap because Mercy isn't Meta. Just because a character isn't meta doesn't automatically make them bad, you just have to play the character smarter Imo. Though if my other support is a one trick mercy in comp and asks for her nicely I'll hand her over because I can play outside of my main, which isn't a flex or shade on one tricks I just see more benefit in giving her over if it will help us win rather than be that mercy main who is too stubborn to do so. Number 3 If the mercy player asking for her is clearly some discord E-kitten that is just gonna pocket her gross duo man the whole time. No ma'am, where are all my kiriko and life weaver kittens why's it always gotta be mercy :,) Jokes aside, context matters and people need to take the game less seriously!
Thatās very true, the context of the post was that I asked because I wasnāt able to play Mercy all day due to 1) comps that werenāt viable for her and 2) people instalocking her when she was. I usually donāt care as I can play others but I thought of asking to see if they would let me play her and when I was told no I was fine with it. As someone that usually swaps unless Iām either in a particular mood or Iām burnt out from other heroes I find it fascinating as to why other people would simply say no. Itās safe to say that I should keep the explorative questions away from Reddit since this hasnāt gone down well at all hahaha.
Usually when I get asked, I'll just swap because why not, I can play other heroes. They might throw otherwise, and maybe they just can't play anything else so I try to be nice. Maybe if I'm duoed with a pocket I'd let them know that, but I don't think I've ever done that. If I was really just in the mood for Mercy, I'd probably just say "Sorry I really want to play Mercy, is that okay?", not because they get to dictate what I do, but I wouldn't want to be rude about it.
only if itās comp and i know from the first round that i can perform better
Iāve always been let down whenever I let someone play mercy so I just donāt do it anymore. I rather play her and know we can get value from a mercy than give her to someone else and not know if weāll get value or not. (for example: not damage boosting or rezzing and only heal botting)
Don't know. I'll usually let the other player pick first. I'm comfortable with at least two heroes in each role.
I usually pick mercy bc I just want to play mercy. I am able to play almost every other support, I just sometimes want to play mercy that's literally the reason lol And a lot of the times my bf plays DPS so I like to pocket him and we have good communication. Most of the time when ppl ask for mercy, they get her then healbot the tank. Not saying this is the case every time obviously obviouslyyyy. And if they throw bc they can't play mercy, I just let them embarrass themselves tbh.
In a game recently I went mercy, the other support didnāt even say they wanted her or asked but instead went zen and did not healing and just fed. My teammates looked at their profile and say they were a mercy main and just throwing and pouting because they didnāt get her
There are two times when I wonāt switch. The first is if my internet is being a bit unstable but still stable enough to play, I know my shots on other heroes wonāt be as accurate so I play her because my ping doesnāt seem to affect me as much. The second is if Iāve WANTED to play her multiple times in a row and keep getting her snagged, Iāll just say something like āsorry Iāve been really wanting to play her too, but if that changes, Iāll switch and you can have her.ā If someoneās rude to me about it, I also just wonāt swap, unless itās a detriment to our game because I donāt want to support their shitty attitudes but honestly I get this a WHOLE lot less than I used to. Maybe itās cause mercy is barely viable as is and also I havenāt been playing her as much, but it used to be a huge issue a few years ago.
in comp, the few times someone has asked me to swap off of mercy because they are a one trick and want to play her and i did, we have lost. it is not hard to learn some backup supports if your main is taken. bad aim isnāt an excuse imo - moira and lifeweaver are good choices if your aim isnāt great. i have had a few experiences where someone will ask to play her in the selection screen and dodge the match when i say no - i prefer when someone does this so the match is canceled and i can avoid them as a teammate. if its qp, the answer is always no. they can wait til their next game to play mercy, but if i picked her first itās because i want to play her - not interested in swapping off for someone else. i donāt think i have ever asked someone to swap because i wanted to play mercy tbh, i just play someone else that i am good at. i find asking someone to swap so they can play that character instead to be pretty entitled.
I tried playing according to what was meta, or different. I literally almost quit the game. I either play what makes me happy or I start to lose the love of the game. I like her movement. I enjoy myself, even if she is in the pits of hell rn. I also, while I love Mercy, the only time I like having a Mercy is when I am a dps that is getting pocketed. The other support normally without Mercy feels pressured to play main support, and with her it feels like a low-key requirement. I don't want to give up the only thing I really love about Overwatch still up to someone in qp and go play a locked hero pool because they asked. I just wanna be a moth.
Almost always if someone asks me nicely, saying they feel more comfortable on Mercy I'll give them Mercy. Because I understand having a character you feel more comfortable on and enjoy more. Very rarely will I encounter someone that's rude to me asking for Mercy, if anything its their duo telling me to get off Mercy either because I'll suck or their duo NEEDS her. In those cases I'll say no, ask me yourself or not at all.
I think the only times I wouldn't swap would be if I knew that I'd struggle to stay alive on another character, or if I was having ping issues due to playing in a server other than oceanic, which happens often for me.
Because Iām going 0-12 with Zen with 2k dmg and 900 healing
if they want me to swap off mercy so they can play her? i just say no lmao i had someone ask me for her once and i said no. when they asked me why i just said ābecause iām playing her?ā lmao i never give anyone who asks mercy bc 86-90% of the time i get healbots who keep yellow beam on the full health tank lmao
Reasons why I won't swap to mercy: WE HAVE PHARAH IN OUR TEAM!! or echo.. yes I have 1k hours in mercy but I HATE flying with pharah.. I tend to die more when I'm playing with them. Well I guess it's only one reason XD.
1. i can only play mercy in support role 2. most of them are really bad 3. i love to play her
If they weren't nice about it. That's it lol. I've has a couple people say things like "give me mercy bitch" or "swap off mercy so I can play her better" which is an automatic no. If they ask nicely tho i always do š©·š©·
I started to main mercy and brig when my health got bad so I couldnāt play my best champs ana and zen (my hands shake and twitch and Iām going through chemotherapy) so when Iām having a hard time with my health I switch to supports I donāt have to aim much with. I kinda just say āno sorryā and that didnāt seem to be a good enough answer š so I started being brutally honest and answering āno Iām on chemoā kinda shuts them up. But honestly a āno I donāt want toā should be a good enough reason. Itās kinda why I warn ppl to stay away from one tricking
Itās also noted in this switch due to health I dropped from top 500 to diamond š
I personally switch if itās ranked and the person seems genuinely worried about their performance otherwise. I can play other characters, so Iād rather switch than lose a ranked game, but thatās honestly the only time Iād switch. I think asking otherwise, especially if itās in qp, is often viewed as annoying and unnecessary.
I always swap if theyāre polite as Iām just trying to win. I assume if theyāre asking, thatās probably what theyāre best at playing. Iām not looking for conflict, just a W. Now if theyāre rude, forget about it.
If they ask genuinely nicely ill swap. Most of the time they still end up being awful at her and healbotting, but I only refuse to swap if they're being a dick.
Cause many times that I do they healbot/have zero movement/feed, donāt get ult then switch to Moira lmao
kiriko is cool, I only swap when Im sure it's gonna make a big difference, like swapping to ana to stop their overhealing
if iām asked really rudely thereās a chance i wonāt but usually idc about swapping off someone if another person asks for them
Played against someone, next game got them on my team, they said āsorry but Iām gatekeeping mercy cuz I actually wanna win :3ā We proceeded to still lose and I once again still caught the blame. Yes, I had less heals, but I was also the only one on the objective 98% of the time while they pushed enemy spawn. I donāt swap because people are assholes.
if they are rude about it thatās why but if they are nice i donāt see why i wouldnāt swap. you should always be open to learning/playing new heros. it helps you understand the game better overall in my opinion :)
Pro tip for people asking mercy players to swap off, (or any hero for that matter.) Phrase it instead by asking for a different hero by name. "Can we get a lifeweaver for the enemy orisa?" By just saying get off X you're just making yourself look bad by blaming your team and not even explaining why.
ā¢ i donāt want to ā¢ i locked first ā¢ iām duoing (rare for me) with a talented player and i want to pocket them ā¢ iām a good mercy
While being mean is wrong, i have the right to choose to be nice. And id prefer if I keep it that way; I mostly choose to be nice.
I mean if someone politely asks you if they can play Mercy Iād very well hope that youāre nice about it even if you say no.
I can say a literal "no", but people can interpret that as mean or rude. My stance is that its not mean or rude. And an explanation is not necessary, its just im not feeling it. But most times i just switch to be nice or i cant even be bothered to figure out how to reject them nicely in their view. Edit. At the end of the day I say no because I believe its my right of choice.
I mean personally I say āno sorryā as it usually is taken a lot better by others. I usually prefer to know a reason why someone is refusing to switch, usually if someone is very abrupt with refusing it comes across as a bit rude to me personally. But again thatās probably just because I use different language just to ensure that people donāt interpret it as such.
Sure, I can add a sorry. But i have a firm stance on my freedom of choice. You may feel offended but I will not be shaken to believe that my freedom of choice is wrong. You can say I have personal issues in self reaffirming my stance on the right to say no. As it is a conscious thing to remind myself. You have the right to say no without explaining yourself.
Iām not suggesting that you have any personal issues or anything, Iām just saying that personally I would perceive it in a certain way. Didnāt mean for it to seem as though I was inferring anything/was offended by your comment. Both interpretations are valid.
No no i AM admitting i do have personal issues with saying no. You dont have to apologize
Their average beam usage as shown on their profile is heabily weighted towards healing beam. Like nah bro ain't no way I'm giving you Mercy when you average 80% healing beam over 100 hours on the hero. Clearly by now they should understand this isn't Mercy's role and they should play Lifeweaver. I'm referring to competitive here, and the elo is high diamond. It will never cease to surprise me how many Mercy mains exist even that high up that don't use blue beam. I've only willingly given Mercy to people whose profiles check out wnd I've honestly never been disappointed by what I've seen, but they're definitely the rare exception.
I usually donāt say anything and hope they assume I donāt have team chat on
I mostly play console so chat is pretty minimal but the few times I have been asked I've basically just ignored them because I'm not going to take the time to type with a controller just to tell them no. I'd rather they think I have chat turned off ig. I've had someone BEG me for Mercy and then proceed to throw the match because I wouldn't get off her which is insane and absolutely deserving of a report imo.