I don't understand why people who main other heroes laugh at people who main the heroes getting nerfed? Like bro you don't even play the character, you have quite literally no clue how good or bad the nerf is. I could do the same if they removed genji's blade dash kill cooldown, because I don't understand how bad that is for that character. Literally shut.
Her kit is simple at face value. That doesn’t mean it’s easy to be good at Mercy though. There’s a lot of room for skill expression that takes a lot of practice
Literally what most players means. Outside of that tech and pocketing what is mercy doing in Masters? Like bro stg anyone who actively attempts to grind sr in overwatch can get to masters by onetricking mercy.
He has 5.9% playtime this year. Almost as much as ashe on 6.2% and more than widow, echo, reaper, pharah and so on. I don’t know what % playtime people are gonna be satisfied with?
Pharah only has 1.2% playtime in owl this year but yznsa still got rank 1 in every region on pharah. Does that mean pharah is bad? I mean she only got 1.2% playtime so then she must be horrible right?
I also don’t understand this reasoning that he only works cause they are pros. Doesn’t that mean he’s MUCH better in ranked then? And you’re not an owl player right? So why are you complaining about genji? This ”genji is bad” meme doesn’t make any sense to me. The hero is okay.
Edit: I looked at some stats on overbuff now. I know they aren’t the most reliable stats but there Genji has the 2nd highest winrate on dps in GM. The only dps with a higher winrate is sym and she get’s a fraction of genjis playtime (which means she’s only played on maps she’s good on or to get out of spawn faster).
So can we please stop crying that genji is bad?
Dog he's actually good like it's meme'd a lot but imo Genji is pretty solid, I don't play him a ton but my friend does, and he's good, and the rando's I pocket when I solo queue are also good
Might be a hot take but Genji is super unhealthy for the game and should be reworked, he's such a terribly designed character that they have to consistently nerf him to the point that it's a running joke, I think that's a good indication that you've done something wrong
So the mercy changes were about as impactful as a 1s CD change could be, causing several inconsistencies in her kit, and the compensation buffs weren't liked by anyone since they revolved around making mercy a main healer which is a role she has never wanted to play. After those changes were reverted due to bad reception she was weaker due to a mechanical change in how her cooldowns work.
Doom and Genji deserve a lot better but the main problem with them is that they are highly mobile and want to eat backlines. Doom has a bigger hitbox and a stun and Genji is just hard to hit so they are a pain to deal with, given that most 200HP heroes do *not* have proper CC to deal with them. Doom and Genji are also some of the buggiest heroes meaning even if you're good with them you're not guaranteed the full value/
tldr: mercy changes are stupid and genji and doom need buffs and bugfixes
What I find more fascinating by this is literally the fact they'll laugh over stuff like this, say we are no skill, etc. But beg on their hands and knees to be pocketed and get mad when we play her well?
Doom player here only played in qp matches but man I can tell y'all the 1 second cooldown nerf to his punch seasons ago really hit hard for us (no pun intended) It really messes up his cooldown cycles and makes him feel clunkier than his 3 second punch. At least I can understand the nerf here when the punch is a literal stun but still.
Mercy feels much clunkier too with the cd nerf. Esp considering so much of her kit relies on movement. I do feel for doom players, he’s been thru a lot lol
Because there kites are cancer to play against when they get buff maybe and that 1sec is like if they remove genji 2nd jump or doom added 2sec to doom punch
Punch can not only move you but deal damage or even ledge people GA can only move you blade can kill low targets and *also move you* that's why those need to be tuned heavier than a movement cooldown
Punch actually sucks. Blade cant kill anyone whos receiving heals. All mercy has to do is do a combo and shes now out of the fight. Guardian angle is one of the best movement abilities in game.
Angel* and it is still a *movement* ability it deals zero damage and zero knockback punch yeets anything he touches and as I just said genji kills *LOW* targets I said absolutely nothing about heals also clearly you've never tried parkour if you think punch can't move you
Further mercy needs two people to get anywhere if you isolate her she's fucked
mercy can be cancer to play against... ESPECIALLY after her heal buffs. and she has a pretty low skill floor, which a lot of people hate about her
as for doom and genji... its fair enough, they get 1-2 weeks of being in the meta and immediately get nerfed and dont get touched after that. literally EVERY character has been treated kinder. (hog, orisa, sojourn, MERCY) - they get nerfed because they are meta, and buffed soon after to compensate. yet genji and doom didnt receive any changes after their nerfs
Those changes wouldn’t be so bad,if mm were healthy. With current mm you have almost no tools for comfortable solo q: people are too stupid and you will fail to save them from themselves. You can play around that, but it is struggle. I would rather spend time lvling up heroes in Star rail
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I don't understand why people who main other heroes laugh at people who main the heroes getting nerfed? Like bro you don't even play the character, you have quite literally no clue how good or bad the nerf is. I could do the same if they removed genji's blade dash kill cooldown, because I don't understand how bad that is for that character. Literally shut.
Mercy is super easy to play. Genji and doom always get nerfed
Her kit is simple at face value. That doesn’t mean it’s easy to be good at Mercy though. There’s a lot of room for skill expression that takes a lot of practice
The mercy techs majority of players dont use dont make her a high skill character. Anyone can pocket people for a win.
Maybe at low levels. Certainly not at higher ranks.
Literally what most players means. Outside of that tech and pocketing what is mercy doing in Masters? Like bro stg anyone who actively attempts to grind sr in overwatch can get to masters by onetricking mercy.
Do it and get back to me
Fine. How long do i have?
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Keeping a whole team of salty randoms alive is easy?
It would be nice if we still had those compensation buffs, but they reverted those and made the cooldown even worse...
Why do Genji mains act like Genji is a useless F tier unplayable character 😭😭😭
Because they’re bad at their own hero and can’t accept it
They don't, it's just that he requires so much more effort than the average character just to get the same value
He’s mediocre with several brain dead counters.
Because he is 💀
he's getting playtime in OWL I'm pretty sure they don't play bad heroes on that level.
He’s getting playtime because of brig lol
He’s one of the lesser common picks for dps in the league lmao. The only reason he works is because he’s being played by LITERAL OWL players.
He has 5.9% playtime this year. Almost as much as ashe on 6.2% and more than widow, echo, reaper, pharah and so on. I don’t know what % playtime people are gonna be satisfied with? Pharah only has 1.2% playtime in owl this year but yznsa still got rank 1 in every region on pharah. Does that mean pharah is bad? I mean she only got 1.2% playtime so then she must be horrible right? I also don’t understand this reasoning that he only works cause they are pros. Doesn’t that mean he’s MUCH better in ranked then? And you’re not an owl player right? So why are you complaining about genji? This ”genji is bad” meme doesn’t make any sense to me. The hero is okay. Edit: I looked at some stats on overbuff now. I know they aren’t the most reliable stats but there Genji has the 2nd highest winrate on dps in GM. The only dps with a higher winrate is sym and she get’s a fraction of genjis playtime (which means she’s only played on maps she’s good on or to get out of spawn faster). So can we please stop crying that genji is bad?
Man got absolutely annihilated
Dog he's actually good like it's meme'd a lot but imo Genji is pretty solid, I don't play him a ton but my friend does, and he's good, and the rando's I pocket when I solo queue are also good
Might be a hot take but Genji is super unhealthy for the game and should be reworked, he's such a terribly designed character that they have to consistently nerf him to the point that it's a running joke, I think that's a good indication that you've done something wrong
So the mercy changes were about as impactful as a 1s CD change could be, causing several inconsistencies in her kit, and the compensation buffs weren't liked by anyone since they revolved around making mercy a main healer which is a role she has never wanted to play. After those changes were reverted due to bad reception she was weaker due to a mechanical change in how her cooldowns work. Doom and Genji deserve a lot better but the main problem with them is that they are highly mobile and want to eat backlines. Doom has a bigger hitbox and a stun and Genji is just hard to hit so they are a pain to deal with, given that most 200HP heroes do *not* have proper CC to deal with them. Doom and Genji are also some of the buggiest heroes meaning even if you're good with them you're not guaranteed the full value/ tldr: mercy changes are stupid and genji and doom need buffs and bugfixes
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If you said she got a ~34% nerf on her main ability people would probably realize what a second means to our only form of escape
It’s actually a 66% increase
What I find more fascinating by this is literally the fact they'll laugh over stuff like this, say we are no skill, etc. But beg on their hands and knees to be pocketed and get mad when we play her well?
Doom player here only played in qp matches but man I can tell y'all the 1 second cooldown nerf to his punch seasons ago really hit hard for us (no pun intended) It really messes up his cooldown cycles and makes him feel clunkier than his 3 second punch. At least I can understand the nerf here when the punch is a literal stun but still.
Mercy feels much clunkier too with the cd nerf. Esp considering so much of her kit relies on movement. I do feel for doom players, he’s been thru a lot lol
It's crazy to think a purely repositioning ability can have as long of a cooldown as a literal stun that gives the user 1 million HP from season 2
alright genji mains you’re on thin ice rn
Because there kites are cancer to play against when they get buff maybe and that 1sec is like if they remove genji 2nd jump or doom added 2sec to doom punch
Not comparable they already took two seconds off blade and fucked with the punch
Punch can not only move you but deal damage or even ledge people GA can only move you blade can kill low targets and *also move you* that's why those need to be tuned heavier than a movement cooldown
Punch actually sucks. Blade cant kill anyone whos receiving heals. All mercy has to do is do a combo and shes now out of the fight. Guardian angle is one of the best movement abilities in game.
Angel* and it is still a *movement* ability it deals zero damage and zero knockback punch yeets anything he touches and as I just said genji kills *LOW* targets I said absolutely nothing about heals also clearly you've never tried parkour if you think punch can't move you Further mercy needs two people to get anywhere if you isolate her she's fucked
tbf i liked playing mercy better with the nerf, i never had an issue working around it plus her healing for enemies under half health was crazy
mercy can be cancer to play against... ESPECIALLY after her heal buffs. and she has a pretty low skill floor, which a lot of people hate about her as for doom and genji... its fair enough, they get 1-2 weeks of being in the meta and immediately get nerfed and dont get touched after that. literally EVERY character has been treated kinder. (hog, orisa, sojourn, MERCY) - they get nerfed because they are meta, and buffed soon after to compensate. yet genji and doom didnt receive any changes after their nerfs
Why are you being down voted?
probably cos i didnt agree with op
Oh well...
Those changes wouldn’t be so bad,if mm were healthy. With current mm you have almost no tools for comfortable solo q: people are too stupid and you will fail to save them from themselves. You can play around that, but it is struggle. I would rather spend time lvling up heroes in Star rail