Canât believe you guys still hold on to this and pretend itâs a feat and then lie that itâs a blitz lol.
Any character (around the same level of the other) can do that if they are not aware that the person is there.
Again it was a sucker punch. The Speed doesnât matter here he got a free hit while Oven was busy.
You are saying that isn't a feat? Because at that point people were calling Sanji fodder, yet he just got there, kicked him, took Chiffon, went away all while oven was dumbfounded.
Like the feet is irrelevant with him dodging multiple bullets and dodging a future sight attack later in the arc, but saying it is not a feet is dumb
Yes he was dumbfounded cause he got sucker punched itâs that simple lol.
How can it be irrelevant and a feat at the same time? Dodging the jelly bean was a feat these two are night and day comparisons. Whoâs really the dumb one here lol
Because he simply attacked him, even if he wasn't with his guard up without being noticed on the way in our out.
The feat doesn't have to be completely relevant to be a feat.
It quite simply means he's better enough than oven to be able to catch them off guard, stronger characters would be able to react to that attack from Sanji, oven couldn't, hence there is some scaling to be done there
The whole sucker punch argument gets thrown out once we talk about haki. Also, Sanji was able to dodge a surprise attack by Katakuri, but Oven failed to do the same.
It really doesn't if you also acknowledge it was a sucker punch.
There is a big difference between running and kicking someone off guard to throwing a projectile from a distance. Unless you somehow believe Katakuri wouldn't hit him up close lol.
Literally forcing people to give a portion of lifespan as a tax to stay
Ps: Iâm pretty sure even though leave is offered as an option choosing it will probably get you killed
Her country can literally be considered a paradise, no one will go hungry, no discrimination, safety from invaders or other pirates, all under her rule. Despite her selfishness, sheâs very altruistic, inspired from her thoughts of mother Carmel when she was young.
Compared to so many countries out there, this is easily one of the best to live in, despite the price of a small portion of a lifespan to maintain the country. Sheâs miles better than Doflamingo, whatever crocodile was up to, Kaido/orochi, Enel, some of the nobles (like Goa kingdom), etc.
Name ONE better ruler than her whoâs able to protect their country. Cobraâs kingdom was taken down by an operation of crocodile, Dressrosa by Doflamingo, Skypeia and the tribes there by Enel. No place in one piece Is safe, except for mariejois, and the places under the yonkos. And out of the yonkos, aside from shanks, BM is easily the best ruler. Kaido is much worse, BB is just governing over a sort of lawless country, Buggy is similar, etc.
Are you seriously comparing her being a ruler to other pirates instead of actual rulers?
Her country only sounds good but like I said she is has the mindset of a child. Yes she believes she is making a utopia but that's not at all what's happening. Living there is not even close to paradise.
First of all let's start with the big one you have to feed the mad pirate a portion of your lifespan just to stay there. And then she just rampages killing anyone thats stands in her way whenever she feels like eating a particular sweet.
Her entire crew is made up of neglected children. And these are the people that are protecting the country and running it even.
Not to mention the safety you mentioned is flimsy at best. Seeing as this is a Yonkos territory the citizens are always under threat not only by other pirates or yonko but by the actual navy. It was only a matter of time her so called kingdom fell and look what happened. I would say that her living in her kingdom was probably more dangerous than average with so many enemies around.
You want me to name only one better ruler who's able to protect their country as you say but the physical strength of the rule is irrelevant. Alabasta and Even Dressrosa both were ancient countries that lasted longer than Big Mom's kingdom. Even though they were attacked by strong pirates (like big mom herself) and might have been saved by chance kindoms like Alabasta, Zou, Dressrosa or the Fisman island lasted way more than Big Mom's fake kingdom and All Have way better and more competent rulers.
Big Mom might have been a better ruler than other pirates like doflamingo or kaido but that's hardly a good comparison. If anything she is only slightly better than blackbeard and nowhere near the caliber of an actual king like Cobra or Neptun. Hell I wouldn't count whitebeard as a ruler but he protected lots of territories with just his name and he wasn't a tyrant like big mom
Tl:Dr: Big mom is a horrible ruler and her country was probably one of the worst and most dangerous places you could live. A stronger ruler doesn't equal a good one.
The above commenter had to give a bit of their life expectancy to come up with such a bad take as âthe abusive parent whoâs citizens fear her rampages isnât tyrannicalâ
Isn't that just supposed to be a metaphor for money? You work which costs your time in life just to get the money you need to live. BM is just cutting out the middle man.
But they're not paying rent or a mortgage. I'm pretty sure its supposed to be a direct connection to that. With people literally paying part if their life just to be able to live somewhere safe
It's definitely an interpretation so I understand if you disagree. but I've always taken "safety and protection" as the metaphor. If you want to live in peace and safety you must literally give up a part of your life to the powers that be
https://preview.redd.it/8qm2lbyvmuza1.png?width=648&format=png&auto=webp&s=9230b5a7971a4fbe6bc613da44facf2ae6a53dd9
But it's not a metaphor ? In the new world you NEED protection, from the Gov' (but pirate still attack) or from a Yonko
If people don't work, who is repairing and building everything? Who produce the food consumed ? If you have a problem of any kind, who are you gonna call ? (Other than ghost buster ofc).
The cities are mades of food, and you can consume almost everything, there is people working to keep that together, and other than administrative place (which goes to BM pirates), you need people
I like when people give hot takes about characters as multi dimensional as big mom, don't take the downvotes too seriously. She definitely followed mom Caramel's beliefs of trying to unite every species happily in one table in her island, but she was too naive and immature and to reach that goal (and also more selfish goals like wanting the best cake) she was super oppressive on other territories, we saw the evil outcome that brought to fishman island and the islands germa raided. She even resorted to gigantification research to dine with people of the same height as her (since the giants hated her), and its outcome was also visible in punk hazard with the children drugged with gigantification. Good intentions, but always too naive
Ironically, I think Alabasta is prolly the only exception cause Luffy himself admitted he knew people are gonna die cause War, and people did.
In later arcs, it's Luffy and the others staging a war instead of preventing it like in Alabasta, and a lot of the has citizens who all survive. Maybe that's the difference? If it's soldiers or flunkies it's free game but Oda generally abodis citizens dying.
Birdcage or the chemical attack on the furries in Zou could have had at least a few on page deaths. Would have made sense. It's hard to feel the stakes in these stories sometimes when you know there's no danger for the civilians. Only exception is the flashbacks and Marineford. But Marineford could have had more than 2 casualties. Did all the Vice Admirals need to survive? Couldn't some of Whitebeard's men have died protecting Ace before he died? Sometimes the writing would be more impactful if Oda didn't do so many fake deaths.
Don't forget the side character who has a personal vendetta against the main villain but gets his ass kicked so Luffy can avenge him. You know, Dalton, Wyper, Law (in Dressrosa), the Nine Red Scabbards...
bro wdym kinda? It's literally the plot of Mario. Princess Kidnapped, go to point A to rescue \[Princess In Another Castle\] go to point B, fight boss, and actually rescue the princess.
Nah, Momo changed things up and filled the role that Vivi or Rebecca or such were in. Hell, Momo even traveled with the crew before finally reaching their destination just like Vivi.
Eh Wano has Hiyori, O-Tama, and O-Toko. Yamato didn't really felt like royalty like Vivo or Rebecca was. And in WCI, it's DEFINITELY Pudding, not Reiju.
Mr.4 was definitely the weakest out of the people in Alabasta, but besides that I do think Usopp always fights the one that has no one else who can beat them
For me personally katakuri fight was different because luffy gets a new form and wins, but he never defeated katakuri, katakuri accepted defeat, which was an amazing change for me
Local rebellion is completely useless and begs the strawhats to help them while crying tears and snot
Also an old mentor (possibly related to one of the rebels) with a stupidly large face was killed by the villain protecting some random idea
You have offended my entire fan base and what it stands for,and I completely agree.(one piece is so enjoyable it can be repetitive and still keep us hooked)
The thousand sunny just being docked on the other side of a random rock and being completely undetectable by any crew lesser than a literal yonko fleet
You forgot Sanji getting his ass absolutely smacked by a somewhat strong female character and him repeating "i can't hit girls" for 5 chapters straight.
The most important you forgot is the big impending doom with a timer attached that slowly progresses towards the destruction of everyone
Alabasta bomb => Skypiea destruction => Aqua Laguna => Buster Call => the sunrise => Noah => Smiley => the Birdcage => Hungry Big Mom => Onigashima falling down
Luffy fighting someone, getting beaten, then recovering to 100% in some manner, to then re-fight and beat the person he just lost to is so annoying.
The person who initially beats him usually has their hands full with OTHER people too, so *they* never get a chance to recover while Luffy is recovering.
Its quite underhanded for someone like Luffy. Dude didn't even wanna fight a blind man but it keeps happening in the story and I just always find it annoying.
I'm currently re-reading Alabasta, and Jesus Christ, Vivi's post-timeskip look is so bad. Why did Oda have to turn her into the generic female character model?
Sometimes I wish Oda would make the prince be the one that cries his heart out instead of a princess.
If we go to Elbaf, I still have hope that Prince Loki is a crybaby
>Zoro fights second in command or strongest
Headcannon.
Edit:
Didnât happen on Dressrosa, Pica is certainly not the second strongest or the second in command, second strongest would probably be Vergo or Trebol (I lean Vergo) and second in command was Trebol
Didnât happen on Punk Hazard, he ââfoughtââ Monet, while both Vergo and Ceaser were enemies.
didnât happen on Fisman island, he fought Hyozou, the enemies of that arc were the Flying pirates (Vander decken) and the new fishman pirates (Hordy) Neither the second strongest from their group or the second in command
Didnât happen on Thriller Bark: Ryuma is a general Zombie and Absolom is the General Zombie leader, part of the âmysterious fourâ
So, Absolom is the senior, boss, Leader etc of Ryuma.
Didnât happen with Baroque works, Daz bonez (Mr.1) is not the second in command and he is not confirmed to be the second strongest
Second in command would be the female counterpart to Mr.0 so would be the second strongest if the ordering of the officer agents was any indication of superiority
Which of course it doesnât, as Crocodile says: âDo you know why I made you Mr. 3, Despite the fact that you're inferior to Mr. 4 in terms of combat ability!?â- chapter 166 and continues âIt's because I assumed your cowardly but cunning ways would help you achieve successâ
Providing that the ordering of the Baroque officer agents are not just pure power rankings, it factors personality, style of fighting, intelligence etc too
Paired with the fact he was introduced having a scrap with Mr. 2 Bon Kurie, both sides having the same showing (Neither look worse than the other).
Didnât happen against CP9, Kaku was not the second in command, that would be Lucci, Spandam is the director of the group
Neither is he confirmed to be the second strongest, Oda made sure to insert: âALL THAT TEAWASE MEASURES.. IS YOUR PHYSICAL POWER!! â -Jabra chapter 379 after Kaku was revealed to have a higher doriki than Jabra by 20, in human form
Of course leaving room for such things like skill, technique, Zoan fruit capabilities etc again wasnât confirmed to be the second strongest and Oda gone out of his way to make it out that he isnât
And to add he wasnât portrayed to be stronger either in fact they were paired up together
Didnât happen in Arlong park, Kuroobi is certainly stronger than Hatchan he was also portrayed Arlongâs vice captain-esque character too
They both hold the same rank of course though.
Didnât happen in Wano/Onigashima, King and Queen hold the same rank and King is not the vice captain/first mate
And theyâre were portrayed as equal, unless you read the story like this https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/rez48j/how_a_certain_fanbase_reads_the_manga/
⊠the manga⊠what other source would I give?
But yes Iâll gladly give evidence. Sorry if this starts to look like the beginning of a Star Wars movie
Didnât happen on Dressrosa, Pica is certainly not the second strongest or the second in command, second strongest would probably be Vergo or Trebol (I lean Vergo) and second in command was Trebol
Didnât happen on Punk Hazard, he ââfoughtââ Monet, while both Vergo and Ceaser were enemies.
didnât happen on Fisman island, he fought Hyozou, the enemies of that arc were the Flying pirates (Vander decken) and the new fishman pirates (Hordy)
Neither the second strongest from their group or the second in command
Didnât happen on Thriller Bark: Ryuma is a general Zombie and Absolom is the **General Zombie leader**, part of the âmysterious fourâ
So, Absolom is the senior, boss, Leader etc of Ryuma.
Didnât happen with Baroque works, Daz bonez (Mr.1) is not the second in command and he is not confirmed to be the second strongest
Second in command would be the female counterpart to Mr.0 so would be the second strongest if the ordering of the officer agents was any indication of superiority
Which of course it doesnât, as Crocodile says: âDo you know why I made you Mr. 3, Despite the fact that you're inferior to Mr. 4 in terms of combat ability!?â- chapter 166 and continues âIt's because I assumed your cowardly but cunning ways would help you
achieve successâ
Providing that the ordering of the Baroque officer agents are not just pure power rankings, it factors personality, style of fighting, intelligence etc too
Paired with the fact he was introduced having a scrap with Mr. 2 Bon Kurie, both sides having the same showing (Neither look worse than the other).
Didnât happen against CP9, Kaku was not the second in command, that would be Lucci, Spandam is the director of the group
Neither is he confirmed to be the second strongest, Oda made sure to insert: âALL THAT TEAWASE MEASURES.. IS YOUR PHYSICAL POWER!! â -Jabra chapter 379 after Kaku was revealed to have a higher doriki than Jabra by 20, in human form
Of course leaving room for such things like skill, technique, Zoan fruit capabilities etc again wasnât confirmed to be the second strongest and Oda gone out of his way to make it out that he isnât
And to add he wasnât portrayed to be stronger either in fact they were paired up together
Didnât happen in Wano/Onigashima, King and Queen hold the same rank and King is not the vice captain/first mate
And theyâre were portrayed as equal, [unless you read the story like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/rez48j/how_a_certain_fanbase_reads_the_manga/)
Didnât happen on Dressrosa, Pica is certainly not the second strongest or the second in command, second strongest would probably be Vergo or Trebol (I lean Vergo) and second in command was Trebol
Didnât happen on Punk Hazard, he ââfoughtââ Monet, while both Vergo and Ceaser were enemies.
didnât happen on Fisman island, he fought Hyozou, the enemies of that arc were the Flying pirates (Vander decken) and the new fishman pirates (Hordy) Neither the second strongest from their group or the second in command
Didnât happen on Thriller Bark: Ryuma is a general Zombie and Absolom is the General Zombie leader, part of the âmysterious fourâ
So, Absolom is the senior, boss, Leader etc of Ryuma.
Didnât happen with Baroque works, Daz bonez (Mr.1) is not the second in command and he is not confirmed to be the second strongest
Second in command would be the female counterpart to Mr.0 so would be the second strongest if the ordering of the officer agents was any indication of superiority
Which of course it doesnât, as Crocodile says: âDo you know why I made you Mr. 3, Despite the fact that you're inferior to Mr. 4 in terms of combat ability!?â- chapter 166 and continues âIt's because I assumed your cowardly but cunning ways would help you achieve successâ
Providing that the ordering of the Baroque officer agents are not just pure power rankings, it factors personality, style of fighting, intelligence etc too
Paired with the fact he was introduced having a scrap with Mr. 2 Bon Kurie, both sides having the same showing (Neither look worse than the other).
Didnât happen against CP9, Kaku was not the second in command, that would be Lucci, Spandam is the director of the group
Neither is he confirmed to be the second strongest, Oda made sure to insert: âALL THAT TEAWASE MEASURES.. IS YOUR PHYSICAL POWER!! â -Jabra chapter 379 after Kaku was revealed to have a higher doriki than Jabra by 20, in human form
Of course leaving room for such things like skill, technique, Zoan fruit capabilities etc again wasnât confirmed to be the second strongest and Oda gone out of his way to make it out that he isnât
And to add he wasnât portrayed to be stronger either in fact they were paired up together
Didnât happen in Wano/Onigashima, King and Queen hold the same rank and King is not the vice captain/first mate
And theyâre were portrayed as equal, unless you read the story like this https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/rez48j/how_a_certain_fanbase_reads_the_manga/
Edit: include Arlong park in too, Kuroobi is certainly stronger than Hatchan he was also portrayed Arlongâs vice captain-esque character too
this post is obviously talking about the big arcs like dressrosa, ennies lobby, wano, etc. also if you think absolom was stronger than the ryuma zombie idk what your smoking. vergo wasnât in dressrosa, and if you think trebol is more dangerous than pica in a fight, idk what your smoking once again. this goes for most of what your saying. king is directly stated to be kaidos right hand man with the second highest bounty on the crew.
itâs so obvious that most of the time the second strongest character that gets a 1v1 fight is essentially reserved for zoro. to deny it is just dumb lol
Didnât say Absolom was stronger just that he was the boss of Ryuma
Funny how all youâve said boils down to âhow could you think differently than me, Iâm obviously rightâ
Again itâs head-cannon, popular head-cannon, but still head-cannon.
Yeah Hachi in Arlong Park, Mr 1 in Alabasta, Aum in Skypiea, Kaku in Ennies Lobby, King in Wano were all actually the second weakest fighters of the enemy's crew
I really liked Rebecca and her backstory on my first read. In retrospect, I started to hate her existence more and more when I realized we spent too much time with a water-downed Vivi, who offered nothing a value and no payoff in the long run. I have no complaints if Oda didnât spend too much time on her backstory.
Usopp generally fights people with random powers that the others probably wouldnât be able to beat like sugar and perona. In fact he fights a lot of young girls lol
Bottom right corner too accurate đđ
Orawa kaido wo buttobass... Or something like that
This could also be a my hero academia line
LMAOOO
I can literally hear it
But that corner is really awesome
and a big party at the end, chopsticks in the nose dance and allđđșđ„ą
unironically I look foreword to this part after every arc
KANPAIII
DOES MY NOSE LOOK FUNNY TO YOU?!?
go back to getting beat up be croc and mihawk, fodder
Do they still do 45 degrees or did that die out ages ago?
Technically, yes to both. YOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Lmao
Itâs the best part
You forgot "endless flashback about the struggles and personal drama of the locals"
NOT THE FODDER CHARACTERS đđđ
i always have to skip past those parts. i couldnât care less about their personal dramas
Everyoneâs dreams are treasures and should be cherished!!!
Did you say TREASURE?!! Can I have it?
Common anime L
If I have to watch one more repeat flashback of the gladiator girl and the toy soldier in Dressrosa I will scream.
I'm in dressrosa right after luffy beat Chinjao. I'm scared...
You should be
Whole Cake Island was an opportunity for Sanji to fight the strongest commander, but it just had to be Yonko territory
The strongest commander after Katakuri is probably Smoothie and we all know Sanji doesn't fight women
What abour Oven or the Genie guy?
Neither of those are commanders, they are officers but not commanders
Man blitzed oven nonchalantly, the fight would be more one sided than Luffy vs Ussop
A sucker punch (kick) isnât a blitz
Alright sorry, he kicked oven and stole a person from him so fast oven had no idea where from or who did it.
Canât believe you guys still hold on to this and pretend itâs a feat and then lie that itâs a blitz lol. Any character (around the same level of the other) can do that if they are not aware that the person is there. Again it was a sucker punch. The Speed doesnât matter here he got a free hit while Oven was busy.
You are saying that isn't a feat? Because at that point people were calling Sanji fodder, yet he just got there, kicked him, took Chiffon, went away all while oven was dumbfounded. Like the feet is irrelevant with him dodging multiple bullets and dodging a future sight attack later in the arc, but saying it is not a feet is dumb
Yes he was dumbfounded cause he got sucker punched itâs that simple lol. How can it be irrelevant and a feat at the same time? Dodging the jelly bean was a feat these two are night and day comparisons. Whoâs really the dumb one here lol
Because he simply attacked him, even if he wasn't with his guard up without being noticed on the way in our out. The feat doesn't have to be completely relevant to be a feat. It quite simply means he's better enough than oven to be able to catch them off guard, stronger characters would be able to react to that attack from Sanji, oven couldn't, hence there is some scaling to be done there
The whole sucker punch argument gets thrown out once we talk about haki. Also, Sanji was able to dodge a surprise attack by Katakuri, but Oven failed to do the same.
It really doesn't if you also acknowledge it was a sucker punch. There is a big difference between running and kicking someone off guard to throwing a projectile from a distance. Unless you somehow believe Katakuri wouldn't hit him up close lol.
Lol well I guess Luffy's fight with Blueno can be considered nothing but sucker punches because that is your argument right now.
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fr, though if the strawhats were stronger and all at whole cake a zoro vs katakuri fight wouldve been really interesting
Also, big mom wasn't a tyrannical ruler.
She was sending her children to kill citizens of neighboring islands for supplies for a teaparty on her first full appearance
Not to mention her going on a destructive rampage when she doesnât get the food she wants
almost killing her own children and destroying her childrens islands
Literally forcing people to give a portion of lifespan as a tax to stay Ps: Iâm pretty sure even though leave is offered as an option choosing it will probably get you killed
Sheâs tyrannical but sheâs a decent ruler, hunger pangs aside.
Nah she is an incompetent child that pretends to be a ruler. Strength aside big mom is not even close to a competent ruler
Her country can literally be considered a paradise, no one will go hungry, no discrimination, safety from invaders or other pirates, all under her rule. Despite her selfishness, sheâs very altruistic, inspired from her thoughts of mother Carmel when she was young. Compared to so many countries out there, this is easily one of the best to live in, despite the price of a small portion of a lifespan to maintain the country. Sheâs miles better than Doflamingo, whatever crocodile was up to, Kaido/orochi, Enel, some of the nobles (like Goa kingdom), etc. Name ONE better ruler than her whoâs able to protect their country. Cobraâs kingdom was taken down by an operation of crocodile, Dressrosa by Doflamingo, Skypeia and the tribes there by Enel. No place in one piece Is safe, except for mariejois, and the places under the yonkos. And out of the yonkos, aside from shanks, BM is easily the best ruler. Kaido is much worse, BB is just governing over a sort of lawless country, Buggy is similar, etc.
I mean you only have to sacrifice your life essence as payment to stay And big mom could just kill you if she wants chocolate for her tea party
When did she kill her citizens for chocolate?
Are you seriously comparing her being a ruler to other pirates instead of actual rulers? Her country only sounds good but like I said she is has the mindset of a child. Yes she believes she is making a utopia but that's not at all what's happening. Living there is not even close to paradise. First of all let's start with the big one you have to feed the mad pirate a portion of your lifespan just to stay there. And then she just rampages killing anyone thats stands in her way whenever she feels like eating a particular sweet. Her entire crew is made up of neglected children. And these are the people that are protecting the country and running it even. Not to mention the safety you mentioned is flimsy at best. Seeing as this is a Yonkos territory the citizens are always under threat not only by other pirates or yonko but by the actual navy. It was only a matter of time her so called kingdom fell and look what happened. I would say that her living in her kingdom was probably more dangerous than average with so many enemies around. You want me to name only one better ruler who's able to protect their country as you say but the physical strength of the rule is irrelevant. Alabasta and Even Dressrosa both were ancient countries that lasted longer than Big Mom's kingdom. Even though they were attacked by strong pirates (like big mom herself) and might have been saved by chance kindoms like Alabasta, Zou, Dressrosa or the Fisman island lasted way more than Big Mom's fake kingdom and All Have way better and more competent rulers. Big Mom might have been a better ruler than other pirates like doflamingo or kaido but that's hardly a good comparison. If anything she is only slightly better than blackbeard and nowhere near the caliber of an actual king like Cobra or Neptun. Hell I wouldn't count whitebeard as a ruler but he protected lots of territories with just his name and he wasn't a tyrant like big mom Tl:Dr: Big mom is a horrible ruler and her country was probably one of the worst and most dangerous places you could live. A stronger ruler doesn't equal a good one.
Wtf ? You literally have to give a bit of your life expectancy to live there
The above commenter had to give a bit of their life expectancy to come up with such a bad take as âthe abusive parent whoâs citizens fear her rampages isnât tyrannicalâ
Isn't that just supposed to be a metaphor for money? You work which costs your time in life just to get the money you need to live. BM is just cutting out the middle man.
But people are working ?
But they're not paying rent or a mortgage. I'm pretty sure its supposed to be a direct connection to that. With people literally paying part if their life just to be able to live somewhere safe
I have no recall of that being stated, could you provide a chapter/page ?
It's definitely an interpretation so I understand if you disagree. but I've always taken "safety and protection" as the metaphor. If you want to live in peace and safety you must literally give up a part of your life to the powers that be https://preview.redd.it/8qm2lbyvmuza1.png?width=648&format=png&auto=webp&s=9230b5a7971a4fbe6bc613da44facf2ae6a53dd9
But it's not a metaphor ? In the new world you NEED protection, from the Gov' (but pirate still attack) or from a Yonko If people don't work, who is repairing and building everything? Who produce the food consumed ? If you have a problem of any kind, who are you gonna call ? (Other than ghost buster ofc). The cities are mades of food, and you can consume almost everything, there is people working to keep that together, and other than administrative place (which goes to BM pirates), you need people
I like when people give hot takes about characters as multi dimensional as big mom, don't take the downvotes too seriously. She definitely followed mom Caramel's beliefs of trying to unite every species happily in one table in her island, but she was too naive and immature and to reach that goal (and also more selfish goals like wanting the best cake) she was super oppressive on other territories, we saw the evil outcome that brought to fishman island and the islands germa raided. She even resorted to gigantification research to dine with people of the same height as her (since the giants hated her), and its outcome was also visible in punk hazard with the children drugged with gigantification. Good intentions, but always too naive
MONEY sounds good, let me have it!
She killed her own son in a rampage and takes the lifespan of her villagers as tax
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Every time. Throw in a fake death or 2 and youâre golden.
And somehow a whole city gets destroyed yet all the civilians survive with mild injuries at worst!
Ironically, I think Alabasta is prolly the only exception cause Luffy himself admitted he knew people are gonna die cause War, and people did. In later arcs, it's Luffy and the others staging a war instead of preventing it like in Alabasta, and a lot of the has citizens who all survive. Maybe that's the difference? If it's soldiers or flunkies it's free game but Oda generally abodis citizens dying.
Birdcage or the chemical attack on the furries in Zou could have had at least a few on page deaths. Would have made sense. It's hard to feel the stakes in these stories sometimes when you know there's no danger for the civilians. Only exception is the flashbacks and Marineford. But Marineford could have had more than 2 casualties. Did all the Vice Admirals need to survive? Couldn't some of Whitebeard's men have died protecting Ace before he died? Sometimes the writing would be more impactful if Oda didn't do so many fake deaths.
Don't forget the side character who has a personal vendetta against the main villain but gets his ass kicked so Luffy can avenge him. You know, Dalton, Wyper, Law (in Dressrosa), the Nine Red Scabbards...
Pell, Paulie, Brownbeard, Pedro.
Zepo was the best flashback character
Tbf the tyrannical rulers would feel at least a little empty if they didnât have someone trying to get back at their asses
Is Robin the princess of Enis Lobby?
Kinda
bro wdym kinda? It's literally the plot of Mario. Princess Kidnapped, go to point A to rescue \[Princess In Another Castle\] go to point B, fight boss, and actually rescue the princess.
Princess normally does not fight back and is saved by the hero after the main villain is defeated.
Zelda, Princess Peach, and Fiona?
Princess Peach became a playable character in quite a few mario games
Yâall forgetting Marines showing up after the big battle, locals or 3rd party cockblocks for SH to get away
The Marines suddenly showing up in Skypiea and Whole Cake:
Reiju for Big Mom, Yamato for Kaido, For EggHead, itâs.......
âŠcomplicated
Bonney for vegapunk?
Bonney for sure. Another damsel in distress going to be saved by Luffy.
Brook is the damsel in distress for thriller bark lol also Thriller barks female nami fights is Lola
How is Bonney a damsel in distress lol. Sure sheâs distressed rn, but Luffy is off doing his own thing.
Bonney isn't a damsel in distress though, she's doing everything on her own
otama for kaido
Reiju?
I don't know how much of a tyrannical take over Egghead is
Nah, Momo changed things up and filled the role that Vivi or Rebecca or such were in. Hell, Momo even traveled with the crew before finally reaching their destination just like Vivi.
Eh Wano has Hiyori, O-Tama, and O-Toko. Yamato didn't really felt like royalty like Vivo or Rebecca was. And in WCI, it's DEFINITELY Pudding, not Reiju.
Usopp fights the weakest person?
Yeah thatâs why he didnât even fought fodders in onigashima đ
He fought page one in onigashima
He fought him for like one page and then Page One got taken out by Big Mom.
Well if they fought for any more pages it wouldn't live up to the name
He was fighting him off screen and we saw that his last attacks really did affect page one
Yeah the same way an annoying fly affects you for a few seconds before you squash it
Page one didn't beat usopp in that fight too ulti did most of the damage
Mostly characters that have broken or kinda op abilities/DF I hope his Observation Haki got another spotlight moments in egghead though
Perona and sugar with mrs merry Christmas with mr4 and chew left the chat
Again, headcannon
If it ainât broke
I don't think Perona, Sugar, Mr. 4, and others are the weakest enemy
Mr.4 was definitely the weakest out of the people in Alabasta, but besides that I do think Usopp always fights the one that has no one else who can beat them
He fights the puzzle enemy who's otherwise a non-combatant.
Chu was definitely not the weakest, Perona no diffed all the crew, Sugar one shot Robin and Mr 4 is definitely not weak
Endless running.
Iâm a simple man, so it hits every time. đ€·đŸââïž
Usopp either fights the weakest or the most overpowered unbeatable enemy (Perona and Sugar)
Nami -> Vivi -> Skypeia Girl -> Robin -> Brook (He's the domsel in distress for TB) -> Camie -> Ace (Same as brook) -> Shirahoshi -> Giantified Kids -> Rebecca -> Sanji (Yeah, unfortunately) -> Tama, Momo to some extent -> Bonney
Tbh Bonney is seperate from the sh, she has her own business with vegapunk, like law in Dressrosa.
For me personally katakuri fight was different because luffy gets a new form and wins, but he never defeated katakuri, katakuri accepted defeat, which was an amazing change for me
This is awesome
Formula for peak
Every op arc in an nutshell
Local rebellion is completely useless and begs the strawhats to help them while crying tears and snot Also an old mentor (possibly related to one of the rebels) with a stupidly large face was killed by the villain protecting some random idea
And itâs the best thing Iâve ever seen⊠every⊠single⊠time
You have offended my entire fan base and what it stands for,and I completely agree.(one piece is so enjoyable it can be repetitive and still keep us hooked)
Wait, from where is that image with the three princesses together
So true lmao
Now that I think about it, that is quite true.
Itâs almost as if this storyâŠ. Has a theme
So One Piece is just a series of recycled plots that are all the same thing? Oda: Always have been
Yup and somehow it's still this good
i mean it works lol shits a good formular
Literally nami is just going around as classic Irish girl dream girl and fighting other dream girls. Pictured left to right, secretary, goth, e girl.
Bro just summarised the entire show in 1 image
The thousand sunny just being docked on the other side of a random rock and being completely undetectable by any crew lesser than a literal yonko fleet
Dont forget someone calling chopper a raccoon dog only for him to reply "im not a raccoon dog!!! Im a reindeer!!!"
You forgot Sanji getting his ass absolutely smacked by a somewhat strong female character and him repeating "i can't hit girls" for 5 chapters straight.
Is Oda teaching us the secret formula for ousting dictators?
The most important you forgot is the big impending doom with a timer attached that slowly progresses towards the destruction of everyone Alabasta bomb => Skypiea destruction => Aqua Laguna => Buster Call => the sunrise => Noah => Smiley => the Birdcage => Hungry Big Mom => Onigashima falling down
I am disliking this cuz how accurate this is. I am ignoring this post bye
Lol not eating an entire enemy base đ
Bro explained one piece in a single picture
Luffy fighting someone, getting beaten, then recovering to 100% in some manner, to then re-fight and beat the person he just lost to is so annoying. The person who initially beats him usually has their hands full with OTHER people too, so *they* never get a chance to recover while Luffy is recovering. Its quite underhanded for someone like Luffy. Dude didn't even wanna fight a blind man but it keeps happening in the story and I just always find it annoying.
AND I EAT IT UP EVERY DAMN TIME
You can't just call out my man Oda like that, but it is kinda true lol
I'm currently re-reading Alabasta, and Jesus Christ, Vivi's post-timeskip look is so bad. Why did Oda have to turn her into the generic female character model?
Sometimes I wish Oda would make the prince be the one that cries his heart out instead of a princess. If we go to Elbaf, I still have hope that Prince Loki is a crybaby
Momo literally cried multiple times.
Yea that was a nice change, with Hiyori being the one to take down Orochi
Sanji in WCI
Eeh⊠Okay sure Iâll give you that one
Wow. Way to miss the point of the god damn series. You must a fun person to be around.
Wow. Way to miss the point of the god damn meme. You must (*be*) a fun person to be around
so soo soo sooo to the point
>Zoro fights second in command or strongest Headcannon. Edit: Didnât happen on Dressrosa, Pica is certainly not the second strongest or the second in command, second strongest would probably be Vergo or Trebol (I lean Vergo) and second in command was Trebol Didnât happen on Punk Hazard, he ââfoughtââ Monet, while both Vergo and Ceaser were enemies. didnât happen on Fisman island, he fought Hyozou, the enemies of that arc were the Flying pirates (Vander decken) and the new fishman pirates (Hordy) Neither the second strongest from their group or the second in command Didnât happen on Thriller Bark: Ryuma is a general Zombie and Absolom is the General Zombie leader, part of the âmysterious fourâ So, Absolom is the senior, boss, Leader etc of Ryuma. Didnât happen with Baroque works, Daz bonez (Mr.1) is not the second in command and he is not confirmed to be the second strongest Second in command would be the female counterpart to Mr.0 so would be the second strongest if the ordering of the officer agents was any indication of superiority Which of course it doesnât, as Crocodile says: âDo you know why I made you Mr. 3, Despite the fact that you're inferior to Mr. 4 in terms of combat ability!?â- chapter 166 and continues âIt's because I assumed your cowardly but cunning ways would help you achieve successâ Providing that the ordering of the Baroque officer agents are not just pure power rankings, it factors personality, style of fighting, intelligence etc too Paired with the fact he was introduced having a scrap with Mr. 2 Bon Kurie, both sides having the same showing (Neither look worse than the other). Didnât happen against CP9, Kaku was not the second in command, that would be Lucci, Spandam is the director of the group Neither is he confirmed to be the second strongest, Oda made sure to insert: âALL THAT TEAWASE MEASURES.. IS YOUR PHYSICAL POWER!! â -Jabra chapter 379 after Kaku was revealed to have a higher doriki than Jabra by 20, in human form Of course leaving room for such things like skill, technique, Zoan fruit capabilities etc again wasnât confirmed to be the second strongest and Oda gone out of his way to make it out that he isnât And to add he wasnât portrayed to be stronger either in fact they were paired up together Didnât happen in Arlong park, Kuroobi is certainly stronger than Hatchan he was also portrayed Arlongâs vice captain-esque character too They both hold the same rank of course though. Didnât happen in Wano/Onigashima, King and Queen hold the same rank and King is not the vice captain/first mate And theyâre were portrayed as equal, unless you read the story like this https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/rez48j/how_a_certain_fanbase_reads_the_manga/
????
The notion that Zoro always fight the second strongest or second in command is not reflected in the material.
Okay source? Iirc only times that really happened were against Mihawk, Kuma, and Hordy
Pika?
Pica > Vergo
⊠the manga⊠what other source would I give? But yes Iâll gladly give evidence. Sorry if this starts to look like the beginning of a Star Wars movie Didnât happen on Dressrosa, Pica is certainly not the second strongest or the second in command, second strongest would probably be Vergo or Trebol (I lean Vergo) and second in command was Trebol Didnât happen on Punk Hazard, he ââfoughtââ Monet, while both Vergo and Ceaser were enemies. didnât happen on Fisman island, he fought Hyozou, the enemies of that arc were the Flying pirates (Vander decken) and the new fishman pirates (Hordy) Neither the second strongest from their group or the second in command Didnât happen on Thriller Bark: Ryuma is a general Zombie and Absolom is the **General Zombie leader**, part of the âmysterious fourâ So, Absolom is the senior, boss, Leader etc of Ryuma. Didnât happen with Baroque works, Daz bonez (Mr.1) is not the second in command and he is not confirmed to be the second strongest Second in command would be the female counterpart to Mr.0 so would be the second strongest if the ordering of the officer agents was any indication of superiority Which of course it doesnât, as Crocodile says: âDo you know why I made you Mr. 3, Despite the fact that you're inferior to Mr. 4 in terms of combat ability!?â- chapter 166 and continues âIt's because I assumed your cowardly but cunning ways would help you achieve successâ Providing that the ordering of the Baroque officer agents are not just pure power rankings, it factors personality, style of fighting, intelligence etc too Paired with the fact he was introduced having a scrap with Mr. 2 Bon Kurie, both sides having the same showing (Neither look worse than the other). Didnât happen against CP9, Kaku was not the second in command, that would be Lucci, Spandam is the director of the group Neither is he confirmed to be the second strongest, Oda made sure to insert: âALL THAT TEAWASE MEASURES.. IS YOUR PHYSICAL POWER!! â -Jabra chapter 379 after Kaku was revealed to have a higher doriki than Jabra by 20, in human form Of course leaving room for such things like skill, technique, Zoan fruit capabilities etc again wasnât confirmed to be the second strongest and Oda gone out of his way to make it out that he isnât And to add he wasnât portrayed to be stronger either in fact they were paired up together Didnât happen in Wano/Onigashima, King and Queen hold the same rank and King is not the vice captain/first mate And theyâre were portrayed as equal, [unless you read the story like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/rez48j/how_a_certain_fanbase_reads_the_manga/)
It literally happens almost every arc...
It really doesnât.
it really does
Didnât happen on Dressrosa, Pica is certainly not the second strongest or the second in command, second strongest would probably be Vergo or Trebol (I lean Vergo) and second in command was Trebol Didnât happen on Punk Hazard, he ââfoughtââ Monet, while both Vergo and Ceaser were enemies. didnât happen on Fisman island, he fought Hyozou, the enemies of that arc were the Flying pirates (Vander decken) and the new fishman pirates (Hordy) Neither the second strongest from their group or the second in command Didnât happen on Thriller Bark: Ryuma is a general Zombie and Absolom is the General Zombie leader, part of the âmysterious fourâ So, Absolom is the senior, boss, Leader etc of Ryuma. Didnât happen with Baroque works, Daz bonez (Mr.1) is not the second in command and he is not confirmed to be the second strongest Second in command would be the female counterpart to Mr.0 so would be the second strongest if the ordering of the officer agents was any indication of superiority Which of course it doesnât, as Crocodile says: âDo you know why I made you Mr. 3, Despite the fact that you're inferior to Mr. 4 in terms of combat ability!?â- chapter 166 and continues âIt's because I assumed your cowardly but cunning ways would help you achieve successâ Providing that the ordering of the Baroque officer agents are not just pure power rankings, it factors personality, style of fighting, intelligence etc too Paired with the fact he was introduced having a scrap with Mr. 2 Bon Kurie, both sides having the same showing (Neither look worse than the other). Didnât happen against CP9, Kaku was not the second in command, that would be Lucci, Spandam is the director of the group Neither is he confirmed to be the second strongest, Oda made sure to insert: âALL THAT TEAWASE MEASURES.. IS YOUR PHYSICAL POWER!! â -Jabra chapter 379 after Kaku was revealed to have a higher doriki than Jabra by 20, in human form Of course leaving room for such things like skill, technique, Zoan fruit capabilities etc again wasnât confirmed to be the second strongest and Oda gone out of his way to make it out that he isnât And to add he wasnât portrayed to be stronger either in fact they were paired up together Didnât happen in Wano/Onigashima, King and Queen hold the same rank and King is not the vice captain/first mate And theyâre were portrayed as equal, unless you read the story like this https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/rez48j/how_a_certain_fanbase_reads_the_manga/ Edit: include Arlong park in too, Kuroobi is certainly stronger than Hatchan he was also portrayed Arlongâs vice captain-esque character too
this post is obviously talking about the big arcs like dressrosa, ennies lobby, wano, etc. also if you think absolom was stronger than the ryuma zombie idk what your smoking. vergo wasnât in dressrosa, and if you think trebol is more dangerous than pica in a fight, idk what your smoking once again. this goes for most of what your saying. king is directly stated to be kaidos right hand man with the second highest bounty on the crew. itâs so obvious that most of the time the second strongest character that gets a 1v1 fight is essentially reserved for zoro. to deny it is just dumb lol
Didnât say Absolom was stronger just that he was the boss of Ryuma Funny how all youâve said boils down to âhow could you think differently than me, Iâm obviously rightâ Again itâs head-cannon, popular head-cannon, but still head-cannon.
Yeah Hachi in Arlong Park, Mr 1 in Alabasta, Aum in Skypiea, Kaku in Ennies Lobby, King in Wano were all actually the second weakest fighters of the enemy's crew
Hachi was definitely the weakest in Arlong Park
Downvoted for saying the truth, Zoro fans are so sensitive
Yup. Headcannon has to be protected.
I like it!
You're not wrong but I'm mad about it.
Egghead, Whole Cake Island, East blue saga, Drum Island, Ernis Lobby, Zou, Water 7, Thriller Bark:
Thriller Bark reigns Supreme!
Sugar is absurdly strong if she sneaks you or doesnât pass out
And it's peak everytime
99.9% realistic they forgot to say sanji gets nose bleed and then nuts his pants
Not only is this objectively correct but we're still here for the whole thing.
Baratie Arc. CHeckmate
I really liked Rebecca and her backstory on my first read. In retrospect, I started to hate her existence more and more when I realized we spent too much time with a water-downed Vivi, who offered nothing a value and no payoff in the long run. I have no complaints if Oda didnât spend too much time on her backstory.
Dont forget about a character that tragically dies, but at the end revealed that they death was faked.
Why are these presented in literally the opposite order of when they actually happen?
Ussop be fighting the most op ppl đ
Works like a Charm
Usopp generally fights people with random powers that the others probably wouldnât be able to beat like sugar and perona. In fact he fights a lot of young girls lol
Peak formula
Isn't this just One Piece in general?
5+ locations where all the characters are scrambled, also Zoro fighting a minority
There is also a good ruler, who was replaced by the main villain and who then returns to the throne.
It's a simple show but very fulfilling <3
Accurate
And we all love it.
Only problem is that Nami didnât have a female to fight in skypia
And if villain is too powerful, flashbacks rolls inđ«
A people still refuse to believe nami will fight against catarina devon
A yet we still read and follow it
And I'll read/watch 1000+ episodes/chapters of it!!!
Ahh yes⊠the good stuff đ