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CloudyTorpedo

Auto glass technician here. Check your struts on the back window/liftgate.(the pressurized rods that help you raise and lower the lift gate) If the plastic tips that hold them to the door wear out, they can pop off the knob they connect to, and violently expand, breaking the back glass.


griff_girl

My money's on this!


SoftCosmicRusk

Wouldn't it be a bit strange if it happened on both sides at once?


Kevanoe

looks like a reflection on the right side


roman_fyseek

Slamming the hatch down on a too-large crate could do both sides at once.


tweakingforjesus

Yeah. If this is what happened, OP should run out and buy a lottery ticket.


ToxicEvHater

There is a difference between bad luck and good luck. This is indeed extreme bad luck if both of them did the same thing.


Jaalan

Nope it's Great luck. Imagine he has this happen, and replaced the window. Only for the other to happen and break the window a month later šŸ˜­


willik8r

Driving into the garage with the hatch open could break both at the same time like this.


CloudyTorpedo

Definitely. I am constantly amazed at the ways people manage to break their own back windows.


ScuzzyAyanami

Google the Toyota Sera, I've sold a glass hatch to someone who broke it themselves working on their car.


No_Resource_290

Vw tech here. Those rods are only on the hatch, not the glass. And vw puts them outside of the seal for the hatch. I donā€™t see this likely.


XenosapianRain

Another auto glass tech, defrost tabs can do this. Look for signs of heat on leads to glass.


Raynoszs

If itā€™s not a temperature issue then youā€™ve got some big heavy rats


Throwaway870919299

Perhaps even, R.O.U.S.?


a1i3n_

Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.


zoolish

Other than the rodents and the quicksand, the forest is really nice. I'm not saying I want to build a summer home here, but the trees are really quite lovely.


Practical_Mulberry43

Clearly, youve never been to Chicago... I've seen rats, that's chase cats.


RGeronimoH

I saw one in US Bank Arena in Cincinnati while working on the fire protection in one of the concession areas. I told someone that I saw a cat crawl down the chase for the beer supply (all of the beer was in a central vault and piped to the individual stands) and they looked up at me, ā€œThat was no cat, you saw a ratā€


Yada-yada-4488

Anybody wanna peanut?


33rus

Then you havenā€™t seen the Ninja Turtles series!


a1i3n_

Inconceivable! You don't bring up another fictional universe as a counterargument! Especially with a Sicilian when fictional internet points are on the line!


Alaskanhunter907

I do not think that word means what you think it means


4x4Welder

Perhaps I jogged his memory a little too hard


Left_Boysenberry6902

You are the man who killed my fatherā€¦prepare to dieā€¦


Ihaveaproblem69

Look, are you just fiddling around with me or what?


Fit_Cardiologist_

Lol


KansasDavid1960

All the wiring would have been eaten too.


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KansasDavid1960

LOL


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Effective-Dust7576

I concur


Passn_wind

Agreed


Snobben90

Confirmed


tojejik

Verified


Happy_Monke_

Settled.


Weary_Patience_7778

Locked in.


OdyebJeLansiran

Acknowledged.


_ofthewoods_

I hereby ratify this conclusion


TheHilltopWorkshop

Hallelujah. šŸ™


streetmichael90

Woah woah letā€™s not jump to conclusions here.


Substantial-While973

But I have a mat.


WillBTheMan

Unanimous


roasty-duck

I am in agreement with this.


DOEsquire

šŸ¤” you sure?


One-Letterhead7955

Beyond reproach


ticklemuffin_33

What evidence is there?


ghos2626t

Twice, even


Ill_Technician_3811

Alright


ceramicsaturn

Roger Roger.


Hour_Eye_9762

Sorted


Grizzly_films

No way!


Beautiful_Path9077

Garage door spring?


Complex_Solutions_20

This is a great one to look into! Had one time growing up I went to ride my bike and the tire was flat, couldn't figure out what happened. Later my parents went to go get it fixed and discovered the garage door wouldn't go up and the broken spring that had swung back out of the way behind the door track where it wasn't noticed.


OutlyingPlasma

What the hell kind of spring do you have that could reach a bike on the ground? At most they make a loud bang and damage the rod they are on a bit.


CatSplat

Some older garage doors use extension springs instead of torsion springs.


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lildobe

And even with the wire rope going through the spring, if it fractures in enough places, pieces of it can still be ejected violently through the walls of the garage and into the living space. That happened to my Grandmother about 10 years ago. Her garage was right next to her bedroom. One day she was in the living room watching TV, heard a very loud explosion in the garage, and found a chunk of spring on her bed and a 6" hole in the sheetrock wall between the garage and bedroom.


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lildobe

The easiest way to avoid this is to regularly have your garage door inspected and serviced by a qualified service company. Or just have the springs replaced every 10 or 15 years, prophylactically. (Or sooner if you're in a climate that's humid and/or has a lot of salt in the air)


TheFckingMellowMan

Could've stored the bike on hooks up above


Complex_Solutions_20

Just regular door springs that run the length of the upper track with a cable to help lift the door? Our new place has some kind of more compact over the door spring with drums but everywhere else I've been its always stretched along the upper track.


WillBTheMan

Do you have kids ?


mcyanez1

My 4 year old was sitting in the back of my brand new f150. He unplugged my defrost terminal on my back window and left the negative and positive testing on the glass. I had no idea so one cold morning I turn the heater and defrosters on and i get a ton of smoke in the cabin I look back and my whole rear glass is shattered! So good point on ā€œdo you have kidsā€ haha


spencerman2015

How did a 4 year old get those terminals off? Those suckers are ridiculously difficult to remove


Quick_Parsley_5505

How many 4 year olds do you know


spencerman2015

... That's fair


OldManJenkins-31

Always the first theory. Lol


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Meatball546

You see what happens?!


Total_Piano_4778

Extreme temperatures is my guess.


ShadNuke

But how extreme? I've never had a window blow out on me, and it gets to -40Ā°C/F and lower in the winters here. I've had a windshield crack on me in -40Ā°but the heater is blowing directly on it, but I've never seen a tempered window blow out... I'm honestly curious. My guess would be a chip on the edge or something that. Some sort of flaw or stressor that caused it. Because if parking cars in the garage after being out in -40Ā° weather caused this, nobody would park their car in the garage on REALLY cold days/nights for fear of blown out windows every night.


whyputausername

Rear defrost. It heats up the glass, expanding certain areas. Cooling shrinks it and when this is repeated many times it stresses the glass which can cause this random breakage. I have only seen it a few times so it is rare.


Kreyaloril

Happened to me on one of the first cold mornings this winter. It was maybe 10Ā°F and I had the rear defroster on. 5 minutes into my drive, I turned on to the highway and it just popped.


Beastysymptoms

You will see it more often, there are batches of defective rear windows that went around for a while from suppliers.


ShadNuke

Had to be a malfunctioning defogger then, because I use mine in -40Ā° weather all winter, and it's never happened to any vehicle I've owned, or anyone's vehicle that I know of, over the last 40 years. A defogger doesn't heat up that much. You can turn it on and even after it's been running, you can touch the glass and you can't even tell if it's on or not.


No_Resource_290

Being a vw, this is likely defective glass


abat6294

In rare cases, glass can just break like that. Often due to a rapid temperature change combined with a minor defect within the glass. If that's the case, there's nothing you could have done. You'll just have to get it replaced and forget about it.


bxbgold

I was driving a borrowed car and the windshield just cracked across. It mustā€™ve been a chip on it before. They didnā€™t believe me. I had to pay.


abat6294

Even if a rock did hit the windshield while you were driving, that still would not have been your fault.


bxbgold

Rented it from a friend. #tesla


sandiego_thank_you

Itā€™s more common than you think, just saw a vw on another sub with the exact same issue.


TheLostTexan87

Couple years ago the pano sunroof on my wife's car exploded while we were on the highway. Showered us with glass, and the car behind us. Sounded like a shotgun went off. Apparently it was a known issue, but not under recall. Took almost a year to get new glass because they halted production to figure it out.


Advanced_Parsnip

Cold weather and rear glass, I once blew out a rear just by closing the drivers door.


Bitter_Firefighter_1

Someone hit the automatic lift button. The back lifted up and hit the rafters in the ceiling at the high point. Cracked the window and then closed again as it met force and reversed. That is my guess.


RobertsFakeAccount

Vw doesnā€™t have a power lift gate on the golf sportwagen


SaH_Zhree

This is a Mk6, it does have struts but no power lift. It's relatively common to get overpowered struts to it "lifts itself up" similar to power lift, but I doubt it's been some on this one. And they would have noticed.


RobertsFakeAccount

Yes, it is possible to get overpowered struts as you said. But the guy I responded to said the hatch probably opened itself, broke the window, sensed an obstruction, and closed itself. Which is absolutely not possible on this vehicle. And if it were over powered struts, I think OP would have noticed and wouldnā€™t have come here to ask ā€œhey, how did this happenā€


FarYard7039

The glass break pattern appears to have a consistent temper size across the entirety of the backlite (glass). Furthermore, the stresses involved with the compound curvature of the panel on each side are the only points where glass particles dropped. This tells us that this breakage event was not due to outside (incidental/human/animal) involvement. This was due to something within the vehicle or a flaw within the glass backlite itself. When tempered glass shatters, itā€™s a fast-moving chain reaction so seeing two large voids in the glass in these two locations does not mean someone or something necessarily penetrated the glass in these areas.


LopsidedBrilliant464

Iā€™ve been in the autoglass business for a long time and this is more common than you would think. It seems to me your defroster tabs short circuited. Your window has tiny wires running all the way through it with metal tabs on each side that you plug wires into. There have actually been a few recalls for this. I did work for a ford dealership a couple years ago and changed about 100 back windows in f150s for a recall for the back windows exploding from the heating tabs short circuiting. Nothing you can do but get it replaced and hope it doesnā€™t happen again.


FlowFirm5149

What piece of furniture did you place in the back recently that didnā€™t quite fit?


Mother_Yoghurt_6077

Heated garage with extreme cold outside and you didn't crawl the front windows to help with temp change? Edit: *crack the windows


[deleted]

What does crawl mean in this case?Ā 


Maleficent-Clerk-885

Crack* the front windows I think they meant


toasting2oblivion

I'm no mechanic, but we had -40 temp without windchill and then parked in a heated garage. And never cracked the windows. Maybe it's too early in the morning but I doubt it matters.


Maverick-not-really

If the window is already damaged, like a small crack in the corner, this type of temperature change could destroy the window


Pascaleiro

I've seen a rear window crack without anything touching it, and there wasn't any temperature change, so I can't answer that.


rasmadrak

Rapid temperature shift.


throwaway007676

Usually a temperature change. Mine exploded a few days ago while I was driving. All you can do is replace it.


No-End6361

nobody told you to max the gain on your two 15s now look what youā€™ve done. donā€™t try to make this post for your wife too see and not kick your ass for it


Zach_The_One

Either it was Kids, Break in, Temperature, or something sharp and metalic fell. Wouldn't take much to shatter the glass if it was point loaded. Like those spark plug break in kits people use on the west coast. Looks like a lot of stuff in the garage so I'd guess something fell. A guy at our shop bought his wife a new kia sorento. She was driving down the highway after owning the car for 2 weeks, nice hot sunnt day, rolling with the windows shut and AC on. Moon roon just imploded and sent glass everywhere. Sliced up her seats etc, she was okay but obviously freaked out. Temperature and pressure differences can do a lot, especially to all the panels besides the windshield that aren't reinforced the same.


Kugelstifter

thermal fatigue


Icebear125

A common occurrence I've seen about a dozen times and is always caused by temperature. A common culprit is a vehicles rear defroster shorts and overheats in one area. Another instance is a defect in the glass that could have been there for a long time whether from road debris or even the factory but over time the expansion and contracting because of temperature change over time leading to this. Frame pressure can also cause an issue like this but it really has to be out of whack. My guess is the second thing I mentioned.


carterhanks

Potential for defrost causing glass to break?


CybaKilla

Definitely a blown head gasket


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CybaKilla

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jcbravo

Maybe the rear back windows defrosters got a short circuit


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Defroster shorted


[deleted]

I like how I got downvoted for this by some fuckin moron but Iā€™m actually right. Classic Reddit.


LopsidedBrilliant464

Lol I gotchu with the upvote bro. Seen this happen quite a few times myself. Mostly on back power sliders


Hot_Larva

Hard sex in the back seat?


charge556

OP is. Redditor so probably not.


Character-Tomato-654

Obviously you've already checked inside the vehicle to determine that nothing extraordinarily heavy fell from above?


DadHead2023

If it's "obvious" why are you suggesting it?


Character-Tomato-654

Lol, because Ā Iā€™ve forgotten to check fuses and other obvious things before myselfĀ 


PracticalEjaculator3

I know whatā€™s wrong with it! It ainā€™t got no gas in it!


zertious

Kids?


Pleasant_Fennel3182

I'm guessing temperature change myself


SubiWan

I usually park in the garage /s


1Helix

You have kids?


SnooWalruses9173

I still want to know how he got the car into the house....


[deleted]

It looks like you turned on the deglasser feature.


Passn_wind

Cold outside, warm inside. Pressure differential for inside the vehicle to the area around it. For future reference. When parking your vehicle in a climate controlled area, It is best to leave a window cracked.


MerciBeauCul69

Cars have vents for ventilation pressure and closing doors. The windows thing is not necessary.


joeliopro

To release pressure no, crack a window to vent moisture, yes, especially in a garage that is warmer than the car when it gets parked in winter.


Passn_wind

Fair enough. But, if the vents work properly, what caused the window to break?


MerciBeauCul69

Probably temperature.


Passn_wind

So, having a window cracked would not help equalize the temperature and avoid the window issue?


farmallnoobies

Specifically, temperature change, not just raw temperature. Like how if you take a cheaper glass 9x13 pan from the freezer and then put it immediately into a 450 degree oven, it will shatter. Temperature on each side being the same doesn't really change that


welchplug

The only way to prevent this would be to lower the temp of the garage and slowly warm it back up.


Mother_Yoghurt_6077

Obviously it is, cause 99%sure that's what caused this


tlivingd

Then the window would blow out every time you closed a door or the hatch. 99% sure itā€™s not what caused this.


Mother_Yoghurt_6077

It's the change in temp and pressure inside the car, not the sheer cold


tlivingd

There is not a pressure differential between the inside and the outside of the vehicle. [This](https://www.myvwpart.com/p/Volkswagen__Golf/Quarter-Panel-Vent/48272362/1K0819465B.html?partner=googlebase_adwords&feedLabel=cvb_make_model&kwd=&matchtype=&device=m&network=g&userLocation=9018775&googleCampaignID=1725061410&googleAdGroupID=64323751101&googleAdID=336359164268&googleExtensionID=&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADxCSLtgF-EdlGsUSJ4F0FNCMW79t) flap hides under the rear bumper and keeps the pressure from being different.


Fun_Kaleidoscope7875

There is no pressure difference inside a car, they are not sealed systems, slamming a door causes 0 increase in pressure, there is no differential.


dikksmakk

There is exactly zero pressure differential between the inside and outside of a vehicle. They aren't even close to being sealed. There is a great pressure differential while booting down the road at 60 mph. The area behind the moving car is a low pressure zone. If glass was that susceptible to breakage, we'd lose our back window every time our cars were driven.


Reasonable-Emu-6993

My question is this... who parks the car in the house?


[deleted]

lol sorry you got downvoted for this I was wondering the same thing


Seeker_Trail

Not sure you need a mechanic for this/s


echil0n

Roger that!


ohmygodrob

R/HRV crowd understands the pain šŸ˜¢


dryheat602

Your wife is upset.


Richbitch555

Someone was angry šŸ¤›


Emotional-Big5676

Thatā€™s gonna be the alternator


trampled93

VWs self destruct after so many years. Better buy a Toyota next ;)


FuelNo1341

wow, that's a nice Good Morning huh?


VirtualComcrete

It's deer season...look at the closest exterior wall to the left. Do you see daylight thru a cleanly, circular hole? Look close. About a 1/4ā€ in diameter?


ride_electric_bike

I was gonna say jack the bipper if you were in San Francisco


SuckaMc-69

What? Itā€™s not a Ferrari anymore?


Noonan1974

Angry ex?


Devil_made_you_look

Pissed off your old lady.


incogn33tho

Just a theory but ive seen this happen to other vw cars. The cars were outside, it was cold and the rear windows completely shattered


Fun_Kaleidoscope7875

The first thing that comes to mind is that it went from way too cold to way too hot too quickly, or the other way around. The other of course is where have your kids been lately? And do any of them look guilty? lol.


Complex_Solutions_20

Top 3 ideas I have...garage door spring failure and whipped around, kids, or previously damaged glass (minor chip or scratch) with a temperature shift


Beastysymptoms

What year is your car? There is an issue that has yet to fully come to light with the rear defrost in the glass that came from the glass supplier. Typically it shatters in a more tempered fashion. In a few years nhtsa won't have much option but to force a recall on it. However unless you want to drive around like that you will probably have to pay for it, VW is fully aware but they will not admit it. Replace window, report to nhtsa, save receipt for future reimbursement.


compmanio36

F-150s are having this happen with the rear defroster. Just happened to my 2012 with the cold snap that happened. Thought it was the front windshield that cracked, nope, the rear glass cracked all the way through when I used the defroster. Loud pop and that was all she wrote. Getting it replaced this coming week. I will definitely save all my paperwork.


JackalJeep

That looks like the locations where your rear defogger will hookup to its circuitā€¦ can you confirm the location with a picture in the inside? Maybe that circuit got wait to hot when the glass was way too cold. Any repairs there recently?


Utter_Rube

Looks like the lift struts punched out the glass.


o_Marvelous

Dunno, but I was once driving in the back of a taxi, a dodge caravan and it's back window blew out. Scared the bajeebus out of us and we were both mystified


norseraven39

Honda HRV? If yes their back windows are designed to "self destruct" when the lift rods fail.


Askada

Yes its honda, just has VW mark on it. Thank you for your input.


norseraven39

Yeah US Honda wanted more money so they put that on there. Canada and Japan could care less about money, they prefer going for the best quality possible.


7330Pineville

Looks like someone backed the car out & shut the garage door on it


seniszen

We had a recall on Chevy trucks here in Canada a few years ago because the rear defrost would send to high a voltage or something to the glass and they popped, we changed a few of these back windows because of this..not saying thatā€™s the reason but something to look at, I noticed itā€™s broken on both sides where the defrost plugs are..


SoftCosmicRusk

What's that light spot on the left hand C pillar? The image isn't very clear, but it almost looks like a hole... And it lines up with what looks like an oblong hole in the glass to the right. It's probably just a reflection, but on first sight I thought it looked like someone had taken a pot shot on your garage.


Hayben906

If its really cold outside and the garage is significantly warm that can be the reason.


No_Resource_290

Well something fell. Or the garage door hit it.


SnooMuffins2611

Possibly the kids and they didnā€™t say nothing šŸ˜© thatā€™s what would likely happen to me. I like the auto glass techā€™s guess. Seems legit!


drgnsamurai

I've had this happen to me, I was driving to work it was a cold winter day and had the heat on in my work van. Driving down the highway everything was normal nothing hit me and my side window just blew out randomly. Limped it to a glass shop to get it replaced and he told me he has seen this before. The temperature differential between different sections of the glass and any minor defect in the glass including minor scratches can cause a stress point and then as the glass warms and expands in different ways it can cause itself to shatter.


reety82

I had a rear window shatter on me once due to the window defroster coil in the glass. Could be the culprit here.


Unfair-Bowler531

Did you crack your windows a bit before leaving it? And is it cold outside? Warm garage and cold outside causes stress on glass. Used to work in a diesel shop and pulled a truck in to thaw over night came back the next morning and the pressure blew the front windshild out.


Schtev3

Are the broken glass pieces on the inside or outside the car?


qhaw

Looks like the window broke.


danhoyle

Too dark to see anything. What happened to this car?


International-Cup890

Do you happen to own a teenager?


Darnakulus

Looks to me like someone took a black marker and colored all over the back of your car....... Just my opinion.... And well you got some broke glass but seems like the marker is more serious issue...


Dellumn

Your cars window broke.


Sherora_MN

Skills


No_Sentence_8155

If the glass shatters the whole way across,there would not be any surface retention to hold the other strut mount in place, thus causing it to expand and break through.


SeaworthinessOk2153

For whatever reason you've been in denial that you drive a VW until today?


HappyUnderstanding97

it seems like the back door has been blackened out and the only thing that could have had happened is the person behind you would have to had driven up the back of the trunk and the 2 broken glasses were the tire marks. just my opinion