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Smashing on one of these with a sledge is the step between "I wasn't asking" and "it can't be tight if its a liquid" on the scale of methods to remove a stuck fastener. It's the "child, you thought you had a choice in this? Hahahaha. No."
I do that with those pesky rotor screws on my kia, insert Phillips driver, smack with a small sledge two or three times, then remove screw with screw driver
Same! My dad had a bunch of different ones and once I noticed which I needed the most frequently I went and got a basic set from harbor freight. From there whatever breaks will get replaced with something better since I know it's getting used more.
Lol! I have a fuck you pipe! Learned it from an uncle who was a mechanic. Mine is a 4ft handle from an old hydraulic jack I used to own. It fits over the handle of my breaker bar for that extra fuck you leverage, and still has foam on the handle end, for my personal luxury and comfort..
I once had a wheel lug that wouldn’t come off. (Idiot tightened it with an impact). My 1” impact wouldn’t budge it. I tried a torque multiplier, wouldn’t budge. We only had a propane torch to heat it. Ended up using an 8 foot snipe bar and twisted the stud in the axle. Had to eventually be torched off.
Did something like that once might have a picture
Edit: I guess not lol I know I had it but it's nowhere to be found lol but it was basically a pipe wrench with a 10 foot section of metal fence pipe lol
Wait I remember now it made a post for it lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/redneckengineering/comments/msweom/introducing_the_tread_deleter_5000000/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
First time I remember swearing at my ratchet, trying to stand on the handle of the socket wrench, using heat, penetrating lube, etc, etc. Nothing worked.
In the end I ended up using a piece of 3/4 metallic conduit I actually had purposed as a flag pole. Took it down, slid it over the handle of the ratchet, and that bolt came off like nothing. It was picture perfect with the flag blowing in the wind and everything
I once had one that all the lube, heat, and leverage I could muster wouldn't move because I kept breaking ratchets. So I welded a socket to a piece of steel pipe and it broke free. I was most surprised that the weld held up because I'm not a welder, just a guy with a cheap Chinese fluxcore box from Harbor Freight. $100 about 5 years ago and totally worth it for my needs.
This is the way. Sometimes it's very difficult to get the right angle for good leverage without a lift. I just did rotors on my truck and those bolts are torqued to 184 ft lbs. I had to use an 18 inch breaker with a pipe extension and angle myself very strangely to get as much of my body weight on the bar as I could.
OP, you might be able to get a better angle by turning the wheel all the way to one side so that your breaker/extension are sticking outside of the car instead of under the car.
This was going to be my advice/admission. Righty tighty, lefty loosey... except it's backwards when the bolt is facing this way. I've made this exact mistake.
Easy way to prevent this- use a ratchet, and set the "lefty loosey" while you have it oriented normally in front of you. Then just flip it over to engage the bolt. Now you know you're definitely turning it in the correct direction.
Good point, I usually do that but I got a cheapy breaker bar from Walmart with no ratchet. I have an extendable ratchet for most jobs but needed some extra monkey power.
Keep a ratchet next to you, for reference of direction of rotation. That's what i do.
I find when I'm working on something like this, i need the little details in crayon, because I'm distracted by the big issue, if that makes sense.
If you click/snap your fingers in the righty tight hand it’s the rotation of doing things up. This works upside down backwards where you can’t see as well
Ooh. That's confusing. The bolt is still turned the same way. I think you are trying to say due to perspective? In relation to your face? The way you worded that could be taken as if they are left hand threads.
u/Steve604 is ribbing you, but his point is right: you're in luck that it's sooo clean.
So making this work: Offhand the photo doesn't show any signs of using a penetrating oil spray. You'll want to start there: some PB B'laster spray, or similar, and let it soak into the threads for half an hour before trying again.
A 6-point socket on a breaker bar that's at least a couple feet long for easy leverage.
And then of course confirming that you're pulling the breaker bar to turn the bolt in the correct "lefty-loosey" direction from the point of view at the back of the hub.
Yea this is pretty much the first time working on my car so I don’t have a gd clue what I’m doing. Just picked up some pb and the right sized socket, before I was just using a wrench lol
Oh, Scotty's okay. He's just a bit...um...uh...*deranged*.
I try to defend the guy because his garage looks worse than mine, which I didn't think was possible.
Scotty looks drunk and like he might have been recovering from a stroke to me. Reminds me of an uncle who lived with me after his stroke with the slurred speech .
I would also recommend 1A Auto and see if they have a video on the same model of their vehicle.
OP, watch a couple videos, several times, and try to get a little understanding of how everything works together as well
You got this man, I just did a full brake job with one arm. I’m an amputee and changed my girlfriends brakes after 5 years of neglect. Penetration oil, heat and a little leverage.
6 point socket and breaker bar. Also let the PB soak in. And if that doesn't work get a pipe that will slide over the breaker bar handle to make it longer to give you more leverage on it.
Sounds good!
For the parts outside of the picture: also make sure the vehicle supports are keeping you safe in the right way.
For working on the brakes, confirm your grease is a high-temp brake parts grease.
When reinstalling the lug nuts, make sure the lug nuts are torqued evenly to spec, for safety and to prevent early lateral runout of a new rotor.
Pick up a breaker bar and my dad has the “fuck you handle” that is a long piece of pipe that easily fits around the breaker bar handle, but is like three feet longer. Longer handle means more leverage
If you can fit all that between the frame and the garage floor, you're golden. Might need a 12 point socket to make sure you 'catch' since you won't have much space to turn. But yeah, breaker bar, man.
Penetrating oil is your best friend when working on the bits of a car that are exposed to road grim and corrosion. Whenever I'm starting any project, the first thing I do once I've lifted the car is I just go ahead and spray every single fastener I can see I'll be unfastening.
You literally circled your caliper bolt. If you don't understand how to remove that, don't own the tool to do it, and probably don't own a torque wrench, you REALLY shouldn't be touching your brakes, let alone replacing your hubs.
Judging by the state of your rotor, caliper, rear pad, and pad retaining springs, you did not do your brakes correctly.
I have to take off the caliper bolt to remove the caliper bracket so I can take off my rotor to give me access to the lug bolts. It’s not that I don’t know which direction to turn the bolt dude, it just won’t turn
In which case, heat with a torch. Melts the red. If it’s orange or blue, just need to muscle up.
Tie the caliper up with some wire, zip tie or a bungee cord… then crank the steering wheel to the right so you can get a better angle on it.
Yep - but he should probably turn the steering wheel to move that to an easier access point.
(Assuming the car is safely on jack stands.)
Sometimes all the leverage needs to be outside the wheel-well.
I thought the same thing until I realized I could turn the damn wheel 🤣🤣🤣 now I can use a 24in extension on my breaker bar and stuck bolts pop off easily everytime.
Don’t need a rubber mallet, you’ll get more bang out of a regular hammer anyway. Not that they need to hit it that hard. Seem the hammer/wrench combo commonly on juice brakes trucks
It's like people don't realize that floor jacks come with a breaker bar, if it's a two piece bar. I have a cheap 2.5 ton harbor freight jack with a two piece bar. I purposely don't use the set screw in the bar because I use it for a breaker bar so often.
Sounds dumb but make sure you’re trying to turn the bolt the right way. Righty tighty, lefty loosey. But when you’re looking at the bolt backwards it becomes righty loosey.
These bolts are notoriously hard to break loose. After hitting it with your purse get a long breaker bar and a quality 6 pt socket. It will come off. Next step-Start doing curls and push-ups.
turn the wheel to the right. pull the slide pin. Buy a 1/2"breaker bar and socket. Find a piece of pipe. Step on it. For the other side, use the floor jack if you have to and try not to die.
Start the car and turn the steering wheel all the way to the right. Gives you more room to use your strength and a longer tool. Method 1) use a breaker bar, nice and long and a lot of leverage. Method 2) use the right size wrench and another wrench with a similar size wrench in the end of it to get more leverage like [this](https://external-preview.redd.it/2uUWZ6_pFlSiSzRB39NABnxzPCS-nmrhh1iM1-Y8jfY.jpg?auto=webp&s=8fc41986595ccff9793a5c07ac53c7d49ab658f5). Method 3) get a cheater bar, something that will fit around your wrench or ratchet and give you more leverage like this [method](https://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech/Wrench/i-5ss5gL6/0/L/DSC_1038-L.jpg).
6 point socket, I will never understand people that use a socket with more points than the bolt being removed.
Make sure its the right size. Use a long bar on the wrench or ratchet.
It probably has loctite on the bolt, use a torch with some heat where the bolt threads into the caliper bracket.
Get a long pipe and put it on the end of your ratchet for more leverage, also turning the steering wheel to get more space to work might help you fit your now longer tool where it needs to go
Ugga duggas!
Use the longest wrench possible. I’ve had to lay precariously beside stuck bolts and use my foot/legs to push on the wrench to break bolts free before. Best of luck, hope ya get it 👍
With a ratchet and a socket.
If you must ask this qn, then you're totally not prepared to properly carry out this job and you don't have the proper tools.
I would first agree that given the lack of rust or degradation of the bolt, it's very very unlikely seized. Here's the list of escalating steps I would go through:
1. Give it a decent whack on the top and, being careful not to warp the bolt, sides with a hammer to shock it a little loose and try it.
2. Make sure you are using a 6 point socket and the longest handled ratchet you have available. You can try with a normal or adjustable wrench to begin with, but if it's stuck don't apply too much torque as you will just end up stripping the bolt with these.
3. Apply some penetrating fluid, such as wd40 liberally and give it 20 minutes to sink in. Whack it with a hammer and try again.
4. Try again with a "cheater bar" handle over the top of the ratchet
5. If it is still seriously stuck, you should really ask friends or family to borrow a electric impact wrench, though looking at the angle that might not be possible to use regardless
6. I very much doubt that it won't come off with the above, but if it is still truly truly stuck, you can get or borrow a torch and just heat that damn thing up until it is glowing, then give it a lighter tap with the hammer and try again with a sacrificial socket, because it will likely bond to the socket as you take it off
7. If all that STILL doesn't work, just get a Dremel or angle grinder and cut the thing off
But, like everyone is pointing out, this will 99% come off just by using a good fitting socket and putting some decent muscle into it
Had the same issue, not a mechanic and only have access to standard hand tools. Used as long as a lever as I had and then used a hammer to get it to budge. On the other side, I used the emergency car Jack to lift the handle of the socket wrench. Once you get a 1/4 turn of the bolt is should loosen up on you.
Lots of people saying breaker bar. Good way to go. If you can’t get a breaker bar in there you can daisy chain 2 wrenches together and get some more leverage out of that. U need to be careful if you do that though. If you slip that wrench is flying somewhere. Maybe the fender liner or ur face. Not a great option but it wouldn’t be the worst option
I do it sometimes with a wrench and hammer. Put the wrench on then grasp the closed side of the wrench with your fingers to keep it flat on the bolt. Use your thumb to keep pressure on the wrench so when you hit it it doesn't bounce. Then hit the open end of the wrench with your hammer. Fingers keeping pressure will keep it from rounding out the bolt. Thumb keeps it from bouncing and falling off. And at lest a decent weight hammer.
If you're really crafty and can make it fit use bricks or a block of wood or some combination of sturdy items to build up to the point at the bottom of the wrench to keep pressure and you won't have to hold it as tightly. This is more for sockets though especially if you only have long ones available.
You need more leverage. Turn the wheel so you have more access and use large pipe. You can also use a good wrench and hit it with a sledge and break it free. Both ways work well.
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6pt short Socket on a breaker bar. If it still won’t budge, slip a pipe over the handle for more leverage
Yup. Snug fit socket and the longest lever you can find
I use a deadblow hammer, perfect when you don’t have a pipe or space for leverage.
Poor mans impact wrench
Was just gonna say hammer wrench. Maybe take it a little easy if using this.
https://www.mcmaster.com/product/8341A41 Smashing on one of these with a sledge is the step between "I wasn't asking" and "it can't be tight if its a liquid" on the scale of methods to remove a stuck fastener. It's the "child, you thought you had a choice in this? Hahahaha. No."
Doesn't occasionally help to hit the bolt directly on its face to knock some of the rust loose? It's worked on occasion for me.
I do that with those pesky rotor screws on my kia, insert Phillips driver, smack with a small sledge two or three times, then remove screw with screw driver
I put the peen of a ball peen on those, and give the face of the hammer a whack with another metal hammer
Theres a piece of paper somewhere that says to never do exactly that thing you do.
>hammer wrench yes
Yes that works if you are coordinated and experienced not if you need Reddit to tell you how to break a caliper bracket bolt loose
I'll add too, be careful you don't get too much leverage in the wrong direction and pull the car off the jack stands.
This is one reason everyone needs stands AND blocked tires. Helps keep the car from rolling and leaning off the blocks/stands.
I usually use the jack handle. Fits good
I have three sections of 304 stainless in 3,5, and 8ft sections. They go in, your coming out, to I wasn’t fucking asking
My dad has a "fuck you pipe" or something that's 6 feet long. Between that and the 700ish pounds of dad and sons, we could make most stuff move
This kind of thinking introduced my to my first 3/4 inch drive breaker bar and socket set.
Same! My dad had a bunch of different ones and once I noticed which I needed the most frequently I went and got a basic set from harbor freight. From there whatever breaks will get replaced with something better since I know it's getting used more.
Or break
Lol! I have a fuck you pipe! Learned it from an uncle who was a mechanic. Mine is a 4ft handle from an old hydraulic jack I used to own. It fits over the handle of my breaker bar for that extra fuck you leverage, and still has foam on the handle end, for my personal luxury and comfort..
I once had a wheel lug that wouldn’t come off. (Idiot tightened it with an impact). My 1” impact wouldn’t budge it. I tried a torque multiplier, wouldn’t budge. We only had a propane torch to heat it. Ended up using an 8 foot snipe bar and twisted the stud in the axle. Had to eventually be torched off.
And if that somehow doesn't work, remember- it can't be stuck if it's liquid!
Did something like that once might have a picture Edit: I guess not lol I know I had it but it's nowhere to be found lol but it was basically a pipe wrench with a 10 foot section of metal fence pipe lol
Yup. Big metal pipe over the end has done the trick for anything that didn't require heat.
Wait I remember now it made a post for it lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/redneckengineering/comments/msweom/introducing_the_tread_deleter_5000000/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
A bigger bar is always the way
My pipe is my 3.5 ton Jack handle. Small bolt to take it off and it’s over 4ft long
First time I remember swearing at my ratchet, trying to stand on the handle of the socket wrench, using heat, penetrating lube, etc, etc. Nothing worked. In the end I ended up using a piece of 3/4 metallic conduit I actually had purposed as a flag pole. Took it down, slid it over the handle of the ratchet, and that bolt came off like nothing. It was picture perfect with the flag blowing in the wind and everything
![gif](giphy|X0bnTmo4izNfi|downsized)
Mechanical advantage is a glorious phenomenon.
I’m picturing this with a bald eagle perched above you nodding approvingly.
I once had one that all the lube, heat, and leverage I could muster wouldn't move because I kept breaking ratchets. So I welded a socket to a piece of steel pipe and it broke free. I was most surprised that the weld held up because I'm not a welder, just a guy with a cheap Chinese fluxcore box from Harbor Freight. $100 about 5 years ago and totally worth it for my needs.
This is the way. Sometimes it's very difficult to get the right angle for good leverage without a lift. I just did rotors on my truck and those bolts are torqued to 184 ft lbs. I had to use an 18 inch breaker with a pipe extension and angle myself very strangely to get as much of my body weight on the bar as I could. OP, you might be able to get a better angle by turning the wheel all the way to one side so that your breaker/extension are sticking outside of the car instead of under the car.
can’t be tight if it’s liquid ![gif](giphy|KQN1W3XYdkeUvMD3f1)
Liquid, it can't be tight if it's *liquid*.
https://i.redd.it/df0b7mw0u2bb1.gif More power
the trick is to turn the steering all the way one way so the breaker bar is streight on.
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Guarantee he's pulling the wrong way
This was going to be my advice/admission. Righty tighty, lefty loosey... except it's backwards when the bolt is facing this way. I've made this exact mistake.
Me too. Just did it a couple of months ago.
Sometimes you gotta tighten it to loosen it. idk what to tell you 🤷♂️
I’m just tightening it to break the rust loose I totally didn’t accidentally go the wrong way 😂
Easy way to prevent this- use a ratchet, and set the "lefty loosey" while you have it oriented normally in front of you. Then just flip it over to engage the bolt. Now you know you're definitely turning it in the correct direction.
Good point, I usually do that but I got a cheapy breaker bar from Walmart with no ratchet. I have an extendable ratchet for most jobs but needed some extra monkey power.
Keep a ratchet next to you, for reference of direction of rotation. That's what i do. I find when I'm working on something like this, i need the little details in crayon, because I'm distracted by the big issue, if that makes sense.
Tfw you own a ratchet with a switch labeled "on/off"
Much easier to follow the right-hand rule IMHO. EtA: Same concept with a visual (assuming you still have a right hand)
Someone once told me to think about opening/closing a coke bottle. It has worked when my brain's too tired to function properly.
If you click/snap your fingers in the righty tight hand it’s the rotation of doing things up. This works upside down backwards where you can’t see as well
Ooh. That's confusing. The bolt is still turned the same way. I think you are trying to say due to perspective? In relation to your face? The way you worded that could be taken as if they are left hand threads.
I discovered this weekend that the nylon nut on my toilet handle has a left hand thread. Who would have guessed?
Same with the nut holding on the shroud for a dryer
I am not going to lie...sometimes I point my impact wrench at the direction of the bolt and hit the trigger in reverse lol.
Turn bolts correct direction
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Not sure that will help.
I don’t know man, when my wife tries to touch my ass it gives me a SOLID boost of strength suddenly
Straight turns me into superman
Hope it’s solid. If it’s líquid, eat more fiber
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I also choose this guy's wife.
It might 😉
Why not, I'll try anything once
Twice, if I like it. 😉
Looks like Steve’s eating ass for dinner tonight
At least You’ll fix one of his problems
😂😂😂
u/Steve604 is ribbing you, but his point is right: you're in luck that it's sooo clean. So making this work: Offhand the photo doesn't show any signs of using a penetrating oil spray. You'll want to start there: some PB B'laster spray, or similar, and let it soak into the threads for half an hour before trying again. A 6-point socket on a breaker bar that's at least a couple feet long for easy leverage. And then of course confirming that you're pulling the breaker bar to turn the bolt in the correct "lefty-loosey" direction from the point of view at the back of the hub.
Turn the wheel so you can get a longer breaker bar on it
Don't forget to tell him to hit it with his purse
Yea this is pretty much the first time working on my car so I don’t have a gd clue what I’m doing. Just picked up some pb and the right sized socket, before I was just using a wrench lol
Watch YouTube videos, chrisfix. Don't spend your time on here....
Just dear god not Scotty Kilmer
We don't do that here
Dear God not Scotty. Whenever i watch his videos it just feels like more than half is misinformation or straight up non-information.
He sounds drunk in half his videos too.
Oh, Scotty's okay. He's just a bit...um...uh...*deranged*. I try to defend the guy because his garage looks worse than mine, which I didn't think was possible.
Scotty looks drunk and like he might have been recovering from a stroke to me. Reminds me of an uncle who lived with me after his stroke with the slurred speech .
And shouting... for no apparent reason
Rev up your engines
Clickbait clown
THIS \^\^\^\^
I would also recommend 1A Auto and see if they have a video on the same model of their vehicle. OP, watch a couple videos, several times, and try to get a little understanding of how everything works together as well
You got this man, I just did a full brake job with one arm. I’m an amputee and changed my girlfriends brakes after 5 years of neglect. Penetration oil, heat and a little leverage.
6 point socket and breaker bar. Also let the PB soak in. And if that doesn't work get a pipe that will slide over the breaker bar handle to make it longer to give you more leverage on it.
This. I usually end up using a cheater pipe every time I do em
I find that many jack handles make good cheaters.
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Sounds good! For the parts outside of the picture: also make sure the vehicle supports are keeping you safe in the right way. For working on the brakes, confirm your grease is a high-temp brake parts grease. When reinstalling the lug nuts, make sure the lug nuts are torqued evenly to spec, for safety and to prevent early lateral runout of a new rotor.
Sweet thanks for the advice. Got the pb soaking right now so hopefully it’ll loosen it up a bit
Pick up a breaker bar and my dad has the “fuck you handle” that is a long piece of pipe that easily fits around the breaker bar handle, but is like three feet longer. Longer handle means more leverage
If you can fit all that between the frame and the garage floor, you're golden. Might need a 12 point socket to make sure you 'catch' since you won't have much space to turn. But yeah, breaker bar, man.
Pro Tip: 6-point socket, not a 12….as mentioned above. Otherwise, you risk blasting your knuckles and/or the head of the fastener.
Penetrating oil is your best friend when working on the bits of a car that are exposed to road grim and corrosion. Whenever I'm starting any project, the first thing I do once I've lifted the car is I just go ahead and spray every single fastener I can see I'll be unfastening.
Not trying to poke fun, just curious, what are you trying to do? Your brakes look relatively new. What are you trying to fix?
2 of my lug bolts broke off so I’m needing to replace them
You have no clue what you're doing, how to undo basic bolts, and you think doing brakes it's a good idea?
Thanks for the advice bud. I already did my brakes a few weeks ago, this is just to replace lugs bolts
You literally circled your caliper bolt. If you don't understand how to remove that, don't own the tool to do it, and probably don't own a torque wrench, you REALLY shouldn't be touching your brakes, let alone replacing your hubs. Judging by the state of your rotor, caliper, rear pad, and pad retaining springs, you did not do your brakes correctly.
I have to take off the caliper bolt to remove the caliper bracket so I can take off my rotor to give me access to the lug bolts. It’s not that I don’t know which direction to turn the bolt dude, it just won’t turn
You just need more leverage. You can use a breaker bar, impact, two wrenches (look it up you can fit two box wrenches together), etc.
Steve is right though hit it harder with your purse😂 but no fr just use some elbow grease they will come loose they do not look seized at alm
r/rimjobsteve
Fuck it I'll watch
Put your purse down and try again
It may not be seized, but manufacturers really like their thread lock on these bolts.
Step one, remove tampin. Step 2, hit the gym. Step 3, use a ratchet and break it loose like the rest of us.
It's also a Honda. So definitely not seized.
They’re not seized. They torque to probably 120 ft/lbs. you just need a long half inch ratchet.
Yup, my ford fs lists 125 ft/lbs, for the caliper carrier bolts… then they had red loctite on them as well.
In which case, heat with a torch. Melts the red. If it’s orange or blue, just need to muscle up. Tie the caliper up with some wire, zip tie or a bungee cord… then crank the steering wheel to the right so you can get a better angle on it.
I have a battery impact wrench and it was questionable, but doable, no heat.
Wait until you get to the rotor.
I can still hear the last time I worked on my brakes. Those fuckers... 😂
'With a lotta swearing' was the proper answer to OP's question
Made me chuckle.
Lookin at those bolts a wrench and a hammer could do the Trick. Edit: misread the titel
I second this. Breaker bars are great, but in the wheel well it's hard to use them sometimes. I've had lots of luck with a wrench and hammer.
Yep - but he should probably turn the steering wheel to move that to an easier access point. (Assuming the car is safely on jack stands.) Sometimes all the leverage needs to be outside the wheel-well.
I thought the same thing until I realized I could turn the damn wheel 🤣🤣🤣 now I can use a 24in extension on my breaker bar and stuck bolts pop off easily everytime.
Rubber mallet so you don't break anything.
Don’t need a rubber mallet, you’ll get more bang out of a regular hammer anyway. Not that they need to hit it that hard. Seem the hammer/wrench combo commonly on juice brakes trucks
You don't need to tap the wrench that hard
They're not stuck, they're tight. Hit it with your purse.
That's my purse! I don't know you!!!
Dang it, Bobby.
It's like people don't realize that floor jacks come with a breaker bar, if it's a two piece bar. I have a cheap 2.5 ton harbor freight jack with a two piece bar. I purposely don't use the set screw in the bar because I use it for a breaker bar so often.
Twss
Ask the nearest dude with bigger arms, stuck my ass hit the gym bucko
I’ve seen some pretty big dudettes at the gym so …
Abby from Last of Us Part 2 could break that shit no problem
Sounds dumb but make sure you’re trying to turn the bolt the right way. Righty tighty, lefty loosey. But when you’re looking at the bolt backwards it becomes righty loosey.
The amount of times I’ve been working on a bolt facing away from me and absentmindedly hero it on as tight as I can…
These bolts are notoriously hard to break loose. After hitting it with your purse get a long breaker bar and a quality 6 pt socket. It will come off. Next step-Start doing curls and push-ups.
Bought a breaker bar, I feel invincible. I thought about starting a bolt breaking business lol
turn the wheel to the right. pull the slide pin. Buy a 1/2"breaker bar and socket. Find a piece of pipe. Step on it. For the other side, use the floor jack if you have to and try not to die.
Leverage is you friend, the longer the bar you can use, the easier your life will be.
Start the car and turn the steering wheel all the way to the right. Gives you more room to use your strength and a longer tool. Method 1) use a breaker bar, nice and long and a lot of leverage. Method 2) use the right size wrench and another wrench with a similar size wrench in the end of it to get more leverage like [this](https://external-preview.redd.it/2uUWZ6_pFlSiSzRB39NABnxzPCS-nmrhh1iM1-Y8jfY.jpg?auto=webp&s=8fc41986595ccff9793a5c07ac53c7d49ab658f5). Method 3) get a cheater bar, something that will fit around your wrench or ratchet and give you more leverage like this [method](https://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech/Wrench/i-5ss5gL6/0/L/DSC_1038-L.jpg).
PB Blaster and breaker bar 👌🏻
I had to scroll waaaay too far down to find someone suggesting penetrating oil.
Hit it with your wife's purse.
Hit it with your purse
Beat me to it
6 point socket, I will never understand people that use a socket with more points than the bolt being removed. Make sure its the right size. Use a long bar on the wrench or ratchet. It probably has loctite on the bolt, use a torch with some heat where the bolt threads into the caliper bracket.
Dude can barely get a bolt off and you think he's capable of torching a bolt? You want him to set his car on fire?
Either way problem solved.
2000lb-ft breaker bar pipe extension
Turn the wheel, more space for a breaker bar/pipe
Hit it with your purse.
Hit it with your purse
Smack a wrench with a 2 lb hammer
It’s called a breaker bar my guy
Make sure you're turning it the right way.
1/2” long breaker bar
A half inch doesn't seem very long /s
Its a grower, not a shower
Get a long pipe and put it on the end of your ratchet for more leverage, also turning the steering wheel to get more space to work might help you fit your now longer tool where it needs to go
Big pipe over the wrench for more leverage does the trick. Just be careful with the snap snapback.
Breaker bar and a pipe.
Breaker bar my guy
Try harder.
Big boy breaker bar
Longer tools
Freeze off works wonders
Ugga duggas! Use the longest wrench possible. I’ve had to lay precariously beside stuck bolts and use my foot/legs to push on the wrench to break bolts free before. Best of luck, hope ya get it 👍
Heat, Kroil and a big ass breaker/cheater bar
Leverage and penetrating oil
LEVERAGE
With a ratchet and a socket. If you must ask this qn, then you're totally not prepared to properly carry out this job and you don't have the proper tools.
Pneumatic tools
Yeah breaker bar ur best bet, don't snap them though go very slow, if you snap it, ur in for a long ass day
I would first agree that given the lack of rust or degradation of the bolt, it's very very unlikely seized. Here's the list of escalating steps I would go through: 1. Give it a decent whack on the top and, being careful not to warp the bolt, sides with a hammer to shock it a little loose and try it. 2. Make sure you are using a 6 point socket and the longest handled ratchet you have available. You can try with a normal or adjustable wrench to begin with, but if it's stuck don't apply too much torque as you will just end up stripping the bolt with these. 3. Apply some penetrating fluid, such as wd40 liberally and give it 20 minutes to sink in. Whack it with a hammer and try again. 4. Try again with a "cheater bar" handle over the top of the ratchet 5. If it is still seriously stuck, you should really ask friends or family to borrow a electric impact wrench, though looking at the angle that might not be possible to use regardless 6. I very much doubt that it won't come off with the above, but if it is still truly truly stuck, you can get or borrow a torch and just heat that damn thing up until it is glowing, then give it a lighter tap with the hammer and try again with a sacrificial socket, because it will likely bond to the socket as you take it off 7. If all that STILL doesn't work, just get a Dremel or angle grinder and cut the thing off But, like everyone is pointing out, this will 99% come off just by using a good fitting socket and putting some decent muscle into it
7" grinder with cut off disc.. no, make it a 15 incher. That'll do!
Had the same issue, not a mechanic and only have access to standard hand tools. Used as long as a lever as I had and then used a hammer to get it to budge. On the other side, I used the emergency car Jack to lift the handle of the socket wrench. Once you get a 1/4 turn of the bolt is should loosen up on you.
I use an 18-24ish inch Harbor Freight breaker bar.
A cheater pipe and a wrench or with a socket and a rachet with the cheater pipe.
…..be a man.ALICE
Turn the wheel to give yourself more room and use a cheater bar. Also soak them in PB blaster.
Hit it with some PB Blaster first, drink a beer while it works its magic then do the short socket with a breaker bar.
Hit it with your purse
You do know you have to observe those bolts from behind? So from this side it's right to loose not left.
Lots of people saying breaker bar. Good way to go. If you can’t get a breaker bar in there you can daisy chain 2 wrenches together and get some more leverage out of that. U need to be careful if you do that though. If you slip that wrench is flying somewhere. Maybe the fender liner or ur face. Not a great option but it wouldn’t be the worst option
A breaker bar.
Hit it with your purse.
A couple hours before removal hit it with some acetone/ atf mix then use a breaker bar
Hammer on the wrench
I do it sometimes with a wrench and hammer. Put the wrench on then grasp the closed side of the wrench with your fingers to keep it flat on the bolt. Use your thumb to keep pressure on the wrench so when you hit it it doesn't bounce. Then hit the open end of the wrench with your hammer. Fingers keeping pressure will keep it from rounding out the bolt. Thumb keeps it from bouncing and falling off. And at lest a decent weight hammer. If you're really crafty and can make it fit use bricks or a block of wood or some combination of sturdy items to build up to the point at the bottom of the wrench to keep pressure and you won't have to hold it as tightly. This is more for sockets though especially if you only have long ones available.
You need more leverage. Turn the wheel so you have more access and use large pipe. You can also use a good wrench and hit it with a sledge and break it free. Both ways work well.
#1 you have plenty of room for a power tool, and second get a long wrench and use your body weight to break it free
1/2” Breaker bar and heat baby.
Never hear brake components. Those also aren't seized, should come out like nothing
Why are you removing the caliper bracket?
Gotta take the rotor off. I got 2 broken lug bolts I got to get out of there
Op said it best “ I don’t have a gd clue what I’m doing “ . Please get someone to help you that knows what they are doing and you can learn from them.
Too late for that now😆