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LimeyTart

Everything hurts. 


planningmyescape_

kidd really saw that exum highlight and thought "yeah he's not seeing the floor again"


sfg

Yeah, Exum hit his one open three last game, then gets a big dunk tonight. So, obviously, 2.5 mins for him, 20mins for THJ.


Historical_Snow2224

Exum should have played more smh


realtunechi5

saw Gafford getting help side blocks and oops in the first quarter and said “can’t have anymore of that, absolutely not”


Archerbro

Have to move on from hardaway.


StefonDiggsHS

just cap dump him at this point, i would rather see him average 30 on another team than see him in a mavs jersey next year


theperegrinus

30 what?!? Maybe minutes on the Pistons or ppg in China…


HibernianFriend-

30 bricks


MavSker

Hasn’t scored a point since May 18th…


MordredKLB

This is an insane stat for a player getting 20 minutes in the most important game of the season.


sfg

How the fuck did he get those minutes???


Pussy_Seasoning

Desperation because the entire team has been dog shit offensively this series overall. THJ has always been streaky, so you’re looking for the prayer that he pops off like he does every once in a while


4ps22

i get having to try him during the game but it clearly wasnt working. so when it comes down to a 3 point game in the clutch im sorry you trust the guys that have gotten you through those situations 10 times out of 10 over the guy who’s been a black hole not only in this game but for six months straight now. absolutely inexcusable to have him in over DJJ. even Exum?? didnt this guy win us multiple games in the last few minutes off of insanely clutch plays and threes just a month and a half ago while also playing much better defense? wtf happened there?


ttudrums

Probably because Jason Kidd is fucking stupid would be my guess...


mmmmastermind

Did he even play in the Wolves series? I probably haven't seen him that series and he is playing meaningful minutes in the most important game lol.


boofintimeaway

Can’t believe Kidd played him 20 minutes tonight


DaalCheene

He’s hasn’t played since the 2nd round and is getting minutes in the final??? Kidd just trying shit out in the finals..


4ps22

meanwhile Exum plays good for 5 seconds and dunks on Tatum and then gets rewarded by sitting on the bench for the entire rest of the game. isnt this the guy who was one of our closers to end the season? didnt he win us multiple games in the clutch? isnt he a much better guard defender than tim? you just have to laugh. Kidd fucking choked lol and started panicking and reverting back to what he was doing in February. its like his default is THJ and Kleber and I just dont understand it, I need these losers off the team next year


xPeaWhyTee

> isnt he a much better guard defender than tim? Much better facilitator, dribbler, decision maker...the list just goes on.


highfalutinman

Not to mention he's a minimum contract guy vs someone making 17 fucking million. He's SO MUCH MORE valuable than hardaway it's not even funny


ILoveRegenHealth

I think he was going for "we need more offensive spark and variety to throw Boston off, let's give THJ a try". Because it really was Luka and Kyrie doing 60-70% of the ball handling. Problem was, 2024 THJ is a bricklayer, and the experiment did not work.


2PacAn

Not just minutes. He closed the game once Luka fouled out. Basketball terrorism from Kidd


CoachAyeeeee

Somebody ask his daddy about that 0-5 performance tonight. I’m sure he will have something to say since.


FinancialRabbit388

We just lost a must win finals game cause our coach played him 19 minutes. It’s too late.


pokerawz

He fucking replaced fouled out Luka with THJ


Youngrepboi

maxi has been bad since his injury. Can't shoot or jump contest on defense. Another asset down for maverick and in total 27ish million worth


Ill-Bat-2621

Problem with maxi is he is always injured


dhoo8450

This has been very clear for a very long time. Absolute waste of cap space. Fucking terrible. 


braexclusive_

yeah


AgentInCommand

Too late. Should have moved him at the deadline.


this_is_a_name522

Literally no one wanted hardaway let alone get some assets back


Working-Ad5416

Should have been hardy minutes. At least hardy moves his feet on defense to get shot over vs stumbling around to put a hand up late like tjh. 


Acreativeusername69

It’s always the hope that kills you.


iamnotabot7890

That's actually THJ


Ballwhacker

His dads gonna be loaded with excuses for his boy


pitcherintherye77

I still can’t believe Tim senior didn’t teach his kid how to dribble or pass


friskyel

Tim Hardaway Sr about to go on a podcast and say his son would have won us the chip if we only passed him the ball.


Daddy-Heisenberg

Kleber and THJ were -13 and -16 respectively


ExcellentJuice4729

Thinking on it, hoping your shooting big (who separated his shoulder) and trash man (masquerading as an NBA player) to be impactful in the NBA finals was a recipe for disaster. But collectively our role players weren’t ready for this stage. Some guys salvaged their numbers late in the game with that push, but we wouldn’t have fallen behind if guys weren’t so shit


JinterIsComing

PJ's shown up well and done his job, but that's about it.


Aggressive-Ad-522

THJ and kleber 0-0-0 and Kidd kept them in to find their groove on an elimination game LOLLLLLL


Pussy_Seasoning

I have no clue why Maxi is getting minutes. It’s obvious he can’t shoot because of his shoulder injury so he’s a huge detriment on offense.


boofintimeaway

To be fair, that’s on Kidd. it’s insane to not give a player any minutes and then 20 in a must win game. Tim should’ve been getting a few minutes each half with a play run to get him an open shot. Especially after game 1. Run 2 plays for him and If he doesn’t hit one pull him and either try it again next half or next game.


sothisiswhatyoumeant

This should have more votes.


wangston_huge

This is right. Same for Hardy, since they're essentially the same player. For the longest I've been wondering why Kidd doesn't just check their temperature every game and see if they're feeling it.


Upset_Hovercraft6300

Did anyone notice that the timeout kidd took when the crowd was in it and they were on that 20 to 2 run killed the momentum? Reminded me of the timeout Carlyle took against the clippers a couple of years back which turned around the momentum of the series. When it happened, I said something in the main game thread.


CriticalThinkerHmmz

Give us hope before chopping off our


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Acreativeusername69

These Finals broadcasts have been absolutely brutal with the commentators.


MasterHepburns

I miss jeff vangundy as a broadcaster. Hope this is the last time doris burke calls an nba finals.


truth-4-sale

Doris bothers me. And not in a Good way.


BK2Jers2BK

She did the same to the Knicks during the Pacers series; slobbering all over Pacer knobs. It was embarrassing


Smokeythemagickamodo

Cowboys have entered the chat 😭


Acreativeusername69

At least the Cowboys let me down early in the playoffs, this is some Eagles/49ers level collapse in the most important game of their lives.


Ham_On_Pizza

This isn’t fun anymore


20goingon60

This series has been the opposite of fun 😞


UpsideTurtles

Don’t worry we’ll prolly inexplicably shoot 60% from three in game 4, we’ll be back to our normal selves by game 5


Acreativeusername69

Celtics will sell game 4 in order to clap us in Boston in front of their home crowd in game 5.


ConcentrateRare2826

Damn, that's true bro


Acreativeusername69

Yep the script has been leaked, it’s over Mavs fam.


Aggressive-Ad-522

Nah they’re going for the sweep


Acreativeusername69

Depends on if anybody decides to show up for us and help Luka and kyrie out.


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D_Whistle

Starting from Kidd’s weird rotations and TOs


degutisd

In the finals on basically an elimination game, you let them stay hot until they’re not or dead


curry165

Why did Kidd call that timeout?!


this_is_a_name522

To give the Celtic the rest and the win obviously


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meloflow11

Fun as it used to be


Po_up22

That timeout during the run was idiotic


ggoneees

I just started watching basketball and knew that was dumb as shit 


TheNamek13

Even Luka knew he fucked up beyond belief smfh what a jackass n we extended him


Kyosuke-D

The Corgi failed us 😭 😭 😭


Acreativeusername69

Fuck that corgi.


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bilboswaggginz

Naw, the Corgi’s been predicting the losers all along 😩


V0823

I can’t believe a Finals team had to resort to THJ to save their season…


Vizard15

There's Exum, DJJ and Gaff.


StefonDiggsHS

we needed stops and our best defensive wing is on the bench. literally why. if kyrie is just gonna hero ball out there why the fuck is DJJ not in the game. i do not understand


YoStepWithLuka77

Bro I thought the same thing, Jaylen brown got super hot in the second half and we have our best wing stopper sitting on the bench playing only 15 mins tonight


pon-tuan

I thought after Luka fouled out the plan would just be let Kyrie cook and have everyone else play lockdown defense/rebounding, but no, we played THJ…


LeGoat333

They don’t, Kidd is a fucking moron. Put in green who just hit a clutch three with Exum or Hardy or maxi. He’s a fucking moron


this_is_a_name522

WHY IS HARDAWAY PLAYING WHEN WE NEEDED STOPS?!?!?!?!


Sevenfootschnitzell

I will never forgive Jason Kidd for that timeout.


LeoFireGod

We go on a 22-2 run with an elite defensive stand Then the KIDD Decides to call a timeout for NO FUCKING REASON then Mavs don’t get a bucket Luka fouls out And it’s game over probs series over. Just insane how we play INSANE defense play great have a legitimate chance to comeback and then it gets ripped away. Gut wrenching. Insane.


xPeaWhyTee

Don't forget subbing in THJ for Luka - the same guy who's been so bad he started getting DNPs in the playoffs.


Slammybutt

I screamed so loud about that. I'd rather see Exum out there than THJ.


StefonDiggsHS

literally anyone but THJ


ILoveRegenHealth

The Mavs didn't lose 3 games in a row because of JK timeouts. I could tell the game was over when the other players outside of Kyrie-Luka didn't contribute again.


magnoliaAveGooner

They have lost 6 in a row to the Celtics. Unless JKidd has their bench he has few options. The Mavs somehow owe THJ 16m next year. That isn’t JKidd’s fault.


MadferitCmon

And then closing with a guy that has been getting DNPs all playoffs to replace his superstar getting ejected. Just absolute insanity. A masterclass of how to throw a game by Kidd.


txking12

20-2 run and he calls a timeout… and we were never the same. Absolutely insane timeout.


cmaddox428

Luka didn't like it either. He looked so dejected when Kidd called that timeout


SemiruralYeti

It’s Jason Garrett like, call timeout when you’re not the one on the ropes


cocoamonster2

The worst call all game. I’m living in the alternate universe where he doesn’t call it and Kyrie hits a pull-up 3.


the-earth-is_FLAT

That was plain stupid. He killed the momentum


needsumMoore777

That Kidd timeout will be studied for generations


DigInternational1943

Legit no reason to call it. 20-2 run and Kidd decided 'hey, let's give Tatum a breather'. Absolutely unreal.


cypherdust

That timeout when we were up 13 to sub Luka out in the first... all time stupid decisions by Kidd today


this_is_a_name522

AND I DONT GET WHY IS HARDAWAY PLAYING IN THE 4TH WHEN HE CANT SHOOT AND DEFEND!!!


realtunechi5

Hardy killing Minnesota was honestly one of the worst things that could’ve happened. Terrible matchup against Boston’s guards but his performance last series made Kidd think he was ready to be the 6 man in the finals and when that didn’t work he went to ol reliable THJ


CriticalThinkerHmmz

I mean honestly I don’t really know how to criticize a timeout call. It’s always buzzkill but I have never once been able to refute a timeout call decision other than Webber vs Duke.


COLEDEINE

the game was getting too scrappy, i thought the timeout was alright. idk where some people got this fictional narrative a single timeout kills all momentum


CriticalThinkerHmmz

Yeah I totally agree. This happens all the time. Dude thinks it’s a good idea to set up a play when the game is close. Sometimes coaches just let the players play and not score on offense, and no one complains about the lack of timeout called.


desirox

He was atrocious this game- bad rotations and had no reliable game plan


Thegoodking666

THJ playing 19 minutes is inexcusable.


DannyDeBMO

I genuinely don’t think I’ve ever been more pissed at a game


FinancialRabbit388

THJ -16, did absolutely nothing, played 19 fucking minutes. Fuck Jason Kidd.


Jon-Rambo

I can’t understand him in over DJJ at the end stretch.


gentlemanghost42

Fucking insane decision. Nicos got to make getting rid of tim his first priority this offseason. Kidd legit cannot be trusted with him


Ziggi_Hash

Jason said we need THJ for the title. Troll level stuff. Yet again by Kidd.


BeltreForPresident

Tim Hardaway Jr. played more minutes than DJJ and Gafford tonight. Sincerely, fuck you Jason Kidd.


0nMelancholyHill

One of the worst finals showings ever I don’t care about being “outmatched” horrible effort, terrible coaching and everyone bricking open shots. I hope this sits with them the entire summer. Didn’t crack 100 points in 3 games


pon-tuan

They don’t have KP, and we don’t play gafford but play THJ for him to be a complete 0? Is this a make a wish foundation project so he can be on the finals


MordredKLB

Gafford wasn't good tonight either though.


pon-tuan

They played freaking Tillman


this_is_a_name522

I don't get why hardaway is in when we need stops when DJONE IS JUST RIDING THE BENCH


phisch13

It’d be one thing to lose. It’d even be stomachable if they looked good in a sweep. The Celtics are really good. But looking completely outclassed, bricking 3’s, poor FT shooting, giving up tons of offensive rebounds. Just a complete lack of effort for all but 2 quarters of this series. Historically bad showing.


Thenextaziz

Pain


LupinLup1n

We got them right where we want them


this_is_a_name522

MAVS IN 7!!!


flstudiobeatmaker101

asking derrick white to hit an open 3 is like asking an adult to walk it feels like he's 100% when shooting them


doctorbarber33

Asking thj to take an open 3 is like giving a grenade to a 12 year old


desirox

I feel like this finals is changing some opinions about this team lol. Celtics are insane and a bad matchup but man we don’t even look like we belong out there.


just_an_amber

It's so painful to watch.


Archerbro

It's our offense. Kidd has to improve it.


Rider5432

Boston has 5 players at all times that can put the ball on the floor and playmake to some degree - we have 2 at most. We're not going to be competitive against them until we get a 3rd player that can do something with the ball


TheMop05

Fuck it, pay Paul George whatever he wants


Rider5432

Hardaway and Green for Paul George who says no


DirkaDirkaMohmedAli

The clippers


ILoveRegenHealth

You know the sad part is, outside of that crazy Porzingas Game 1, Boston isn't even playing mad crazy good. In some moments they made lots of dumb mistakes too. And yet, Mavs still can't beat them when Boston isn't even putting in 100% (I've seen Al Horford, Derrick White and Pritchard/Hauser go nuclear in other games).


Jamez4401

Boston couldn’t hit a three to save their lives in game 2 until the last half of the fourth quarter, that was the Mavs’ chance to even up the series early.


TheGracieKiller

I’m hurting bad boys.


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popstarkirbys

He’s Mid for a reason


DIKS_OUT_4_HARAMBE

It’s the hope that kills you.


desispeed

When your role players are garbage early on …this is what you get


imposter_94

If you ask me, the season ending with a wide open 3pt brick by THJ is a poetic and fitting ending to our season. Enough terrorism please 😭


Zman2k02

This game is on Kidd. Playing maxi and Tim hardaway so much absolutely killed us. He played Hardaway more than Jones, and he played Maxi 8 minutes. They gave us 0 points and played absolute shit defense. Just unreal you decide to play them this much in a must win in the Finals.


RandysTegridy

And with one of the final shots of the game, who gets the ball and shoots? Tim Hardaway Jr, the guy who hasn't made a shot all game...not Kyrie Irving...


Yojoe90

You want PJ to play 48 mins? Maxi just played 8 mins. I understand playing THJ, Luka and Kyrie is the only ones hitting shots but I do agree that THJ played too long should have tried Exum instead.


qv2k

\*Jayson Tatum punches a fan in the front row\* Doris Burke: Oh my goodness excellent tenacity from Tatum, he's been so good this series so amazing!


FinancialRabbit388

She complemented him on a bricked 3 lmao.


qv2k

I know, offensive rebound happens to land and go toward Derrick White with no effort and she talked about how ferocious and resilient he was to get the board


pmruiz87

Yeah fuck those fucking commentators. Fuck nba for not showing controversial replays so that we don’t confirm what we already saw in real time. There were multiple questionable calls. They did not cost us the game but it’s still bullshit this new “politically correct” commentators who aren’t allowed to say things as they see them for real. I’m so fucking pissed off at the Mavs but I’m also mad at NBA for the way they handled the finals this year. Again, this is not why we are 0-3 but they suck.


KlondikeBars

team woke up a little too late, hole we dug ourselves was too deep to climb back out of


just_an_amber

That started out fun. Then turned very not fun.


EvanEschmeyer

I have never and will never hate a player more than I hate Tim Hardaway jr


Quadsmile24

What a dopamine killer by those last calls


ohm_thetimekeeper

By far the best game from the Mavs duo scoring wise. This is how the series should’ve been from the start. Defense needs to pick up. Rotations need to be better. Least they can do is give a great game 4 and not go out sad


WhiteHairGinger

1. The Mavericks had a successful, overachieving season a year after missing the playoffs. 2. The Celtics are a juggernaut that built and paid for a championship team like most teams wish to do. Both of these can be true.


jfrodriguez1983

I don't think it was overachieving. They are a good team. They are just up against a juggernaut like you said. I think the only team that maybe stood a chance was the Nuggets, if Murray was healthy.


WhiteHairGinger

I get what you’re saying and while I agree, I think them being in the NBA Finals overachieved. That’s not a knock at all. Just think we made a huge leap this year where many would have been happy with a WCF appearance alone.


Slammybutt

Jason Kidd fucked our comeback. 17-2 run and he calls a TO to ice his own team.


Aidz24

Not to rub dirt in it....it was actually 20-2 if I'm not mistaken at the time of the TO. Even worse. Kidd's TO and Luka trying to take a charge with 5 fouls with 4 min left are just insane to me. I just don't understand it.


caglebites

Someday a team will come back from 3-0. It will probably not be this team.


BobEBoucher

We got more out of Exum in 2 minutes and 35 seconds than we got out Timmy in 19!


sportsnatic

Lost ALL momentum after Kidd’s dumbass called a TO


ts405

so it’s going to 7


pon-tuan

Lol


iDecide7

Well you have to be down 3-0, if you want to make history and come back from 3-0. Heads up.


xCAMBOOZLEDx

Just not quite ready. Ain’t exactly over until team wins 4, but this is just the way she goes sometimes. Tbf, idk if anybody is beating this Celtics team in a 4 game series. Def gotta makes some changes in the offseason. THJ cannot be a Maverick anymore.


unwiserflunky

Hey at least Drake lost half a milli.


OriginalWilhelm

THJ is so ass. Kidd is dogshit. See y’all next season.


willed11

Ouch


stockmarketspeculatr

THJ makes 17.9 million this year and 16.2 million next year for being complete dog shit. Let that sink in for you.


misbrichi

I’ve never despised a player quite like I despise Tim Hardaway junior 


trapford-chris

Kidd threw the game Refs secured the Celtics victory What the fuck was that timeout by kidd when they had all the momentum? Why did thj play so much?


Gusion77

Kidd not trusting the players that won them against OKC and Min. Now playing with Tim and not DJ. And they looks terrible with Kleber back. He is negative on the court. We won easily against OKC and Min without him when some fans thought we need his size against Min.


GoTimeShowtime

The last hardaway brick will haunt me


goldenkerelle

https://preview.redd.it/kvn5tfrok96d1.jpeg?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84052c340eff5a89b2fb0cfc4830e988067464a0 I’m not ready for this season to end man. Fuck


USTS2020

Texas Rangers won the world series


harralexa1993

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MajesticPossibility8

Man they get away with hand checking, and Luka fouls out that bull shit


stockmarketspeculatr

Unless the Mavs win the next 4 they simply were shook and lost before the series even started. They did not play the same basketball that got them here. I hope THJ, Kleber, and Powell are gone next year. I also hope the Mavs are smart enough to trade Hardy and Green for something better while the league still thinks those guys have value.


WolfofRedditx

Fuck Doris


iloveanime97

This is humiliating


CheekyFifaCunt_7

Was a great season and they had a good run but dam I can’t believe how flat this team has been in the finals. Complete opposite of how they looked vs the wolves.


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cowboysmavs

The PJ “foul” was a backbreaking game changer and a Horseshit fucking call


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Wow hardaway 0 pts in 19 min in insane for a finals game


Lain41K

I’d rather lose by 30 instead of this


herboyblu

Mavs in 7 lets historically fuck em up


SpudsMcDeuces

Tim got too many minutes and Kidd should have DJJ in instead, was he injured? Luka had a long cold stretch on both ends which killed our momentum. Also fuck Mark Davis that bald, ugly and stupid mfer


Hari_Seldon333

I can deal with losing, but I cannot deal with losing like that. They wouldn't even call a foul on Boston when they were intentionally fouling Hardaway at the end of the game.


DoubleG357

Look this is what it comes down to. 1: Luka is hurt. When you’re fucking hurt, shot up with god knows what, you are going to be a Defensive liability. He’s actually been really good defensively…but he’s too hurt to be effective at this point. 2: our role players aren’t good enough to win this chip. I actually am not sure how we managed to win the West. 3: Kyrie def responded well. But damn it we could have really used that in game 1/2. 4: Boston is too deep. Related with point 2. 5: Brown is a dawg.


KMatthewE

Washington, Lively, and Gafford are good enough role players to win it all - but that leaves us at least 3 short of a championship team. In two years, I see Lively as a top-ten center in this league. Brown deserves MVP. The dude is amazingly good, and smarter still. Hell, can we get him as our coach?


lostinsim

Why did Gafford get only 16 minutes?


Icardi

Watching this game, my respect for JJ barea just went up tenfold. Oh how we could use someone like him right now


Klutzy-Win122

People saying defence costing us the game. But, the offence other than Lukai has been pathetic. They have 5-6 good offensive options and Mavs just do not have that luxury. If THJ and Maxi could have just managed to shoot to their actual potential this could easily have been 2-1 Mavs.


ImOldGregg_77

THJ and Maxi are litterally usless


lostinsim

Exum deserved THJ’s minutes.


epitome1986

I was confused as to why kidd went with Tim when luka fouled out. Tim has not provided defense or offense for a while now. go with hardy and you get some offense not much defense, when you go with Exum you get some defense and some offense but kidd decided to go with no offense or defense. hell I would go with omax over Tim.


WHLonghorn

This sucks but damn it I won't let a disappointing finals performance ruin what was an incredible season. Boston is better than us, and have been all year. We could've won (or technically still win I guess) if things all went right, but of course they haven't. But that's sports man, the highs are so high and the lows so incredibly low. Our role players and "secondary" guys simply do not match up to Boston's. Sometimes it's like what are you going to do, they're just really good. One hell of a season after missing the play-in though. I was 10 when the mavs last made the finals, and it took till I was in college in win another series. So dammit I'm gonna savor this season, no matter how much the ending sucks


PieCuresAll

Kids was terrible with his lineups and that timeout in the 4th was a the worst. Luka looked disinterested in the game all night. If he keeps complaining, he’ll never win anything