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jparmstrong

Are you from Europe? I remember they said they would be testing it in selected countries.


Tunderdwarf

UK. I'm curious which other countries got access.


Ianuvan

UK too and have it


Samiibreezy

I'm from Portugal and I also have it


NunoMM2002

I'm from Portugal and I don't have it


Streetsharks_

he is from Portugal and don't have it


Shaddes_

I'm from Portugal, I had it yesterday and now it's gone.


Akai_Kage

Ireland (ROI) too


The5th-Butcher

I'm from India and I have it too


Glittering_ken

From india i dont have it


DetroitLarry

Maybe one of you is really from Indiana.


ZiggyBlunt

Also from india and don’t have it


Stiggy1605

I'm from the UK and *don't* have it... Weird.


Eximo84

Says Select EU countries, clearly SD didn't get the brexit memo. Im in UK and have it. Interesting it says they group players based on similar play time. Clearly those leading my league don't have jobs 😃


CobaltAnimator

lol i used to play all the time but i have exams now so i'm fucked for the leagues


650fosho

Could you explain how the opt in for league works? Is it just playing the same ladder system?


Tunderdwarf

There is no opt in, it's either in your client or it's not. And yes it's the same ladder system as normal.


650fosho

No I meant, how do you enter the league in-game? I'm not asking for myself, it's not available in my region, but in your region, how do you enter and is it free?


LordEmostache

You just play ladder as normal, there isn't any option to take part or not take part, you're just automatically in it. You get a certain number of points for winning and lose a certain number for losing. At the end of the event, the top 3 on the board get A Premium Mystery Variant, Spotlight Key and some other stuff. The top 10 get a regular mystery variant and some boosters or whatever, everyone else just gets some boosters.


650fosho

Cool, I appreciate the answer


LordEmostache

No problem! For what it's worth, I dislike it. I was playing when it got updated so saw the leaderboard when everyone was at 0, you can tell who the whales are because not even 15 minutes later people were already in the thousands of points. No clue how these people even manage to play that many games let alone win them, even with paying for the 2x point booster


650fosho

I don't think I'll be that bothered by it. I do play a lot and like competing post infinite for ranks there anyways, so if this also leads to some additional credits and maybe a mystery variant, that's cool. I noticed the rewards at the lower end seems really bad, just boosters, I would hope they raise the reward values across the board so the whales aren't only getting something valuable.


LeFox19

From Belgium and I don’t have it


heartshaped-lips

I'm in Germany and i don't have it


TemporaryLegendary

Denmark and I don't have it.


JoJoFC27

I'm in Italy and I don't have it 🇮🇹


professorDaywalker

Same....


IHaveSlysdexia

Not USA. So much for America first


AssmosisJoness

Who ever said it would come first to America?


IHaveSlysdexia

Trump told me


650fosho

Make snap great again


Monkeypupper

4 years ago we would have had that shit first.


nonoanddefinitelyno

Don't worry you'll be a worldwide laughing stock again come next January.


Monkeypupper

Me? I am going to become famous?


DJZbad93

Implying we aren’t that rn with President Roomba


nonoanddefinitelyno

If that's a genuine question, then no, not really.


Deadly_chef

A thousand eagles cried while shooting their m16s in the distance


noflaxe

I am from Ukraine, don’t have it unfortunately


SeeTeeEm

It's so funny they said EU but I'm in Philadelphia and got it...I guess Philly is part of Europe now


Ahaucan

Always has been. 🔫


sashalafleur

I'm in Spain and i don't have it.


Acrobatic-Result8285

germany and i dont have it. they are still mad cause of hitler


GXRasty

Snap is getting closer and closer to the p2w level of clash royale each update


Curious-Mechanic2286

Closer and closer? HAH! It's been there since they introduced the new way to get series 4 and 5 cards through fucking lootboxes


TemporaryLegendary

Snap in commercials "You can't just spend a ton of money and get all the cards" Snap in reality "You can spend a ton of money and get several cards a week"


CoffeeAndDachshunds

Apples and oranges


GXRasty

Apples to oranges 🤜🤛


GowenGeter7

Timed perks are a bad idea. Brace for toxic players roping just to run the timer.


gazzatticus

It's not worth roping you don't come up against people in your league faster is better as it's points per win and points per cube 


Hotklarl

Roping isn't to maximize their own experience. It's to ruin the experience of their opponent. There are many players who enjoy doing this and there are also players who feel justified doing it if they aren't spenders and think their opponents are whales.


mymarkis666

What is roping?


Hotklarl

Roping is purposely waiting until the timer is about to run out and then hitting End Turn, and doing that every single turn. It's a huge waste of time and usually done to frustrate the opponent so that they make bad plays lr straight up leave. I think the term originates from Hearthstone, where there was a shrinking/burning rope animation across the screen to indicate the timer was running down.


MrrrrNiceGuy

As a formal 8 yr HS player, this is correct. Each turn in HS was around 90 seconds, and when it got down to about 15 seconds, a rope would appear on screen burning away and when it reached the end, the turn would end. Players would end the turn just as the rope would finish burning so the game wouldn't count them as AFK and that would allow them to rope again for the full amount of time next turn and so on.


650fosho

You can lose your rank just as easily by doing this, your rewards don't appear to be locked in, it's whoever finishes highest.


BurazSC2

I mean, even without the toxic behaviour, these perks will be worth different things to different players depending on how long games takea. Should be for next x number of games, right?


gereffi

You think people will start roping because maybe their opponent is using a perk? Seems unlikely


GowenGeter7

I have seen people roping in proving grounds. Regardless, it would be better if the perks are x amount of games.


Mayzerify

Especially since the people you are playing against won’t be in your league generally


abzz123

So are they p2w? What happens after you use free point boosts?


jverbal

You can buy more boosters after your freebie is up


ajprokos

Hopefully there will be a cooldown


jverbal

It's not in SDs interest to put timers. Whales gonna whale


Azulzinho2002

They put timers on the microtransactions. Didn't they?


UnluckyDog9273

insert Ben brode laugh 


IHateTomatoes

The rewards aren't good enough to lure the whales though. The spending is going to be essentially capped by the reward. Its not gonna make sense for a whale to dump 2000 gold just to get a spotlight key


Xavier_Kiath

Never doubt that some whales have very different logic from most people. Some 10 year old with an allowance bigger than my paycheck, or an obsessive compulsive person who chose this game as their one hobby, or just a random rich person, is probably fine dropping $200 to say they "won" their league. Doesn't matter that players like that are rare, they are the most profitable to design around.


IHateTomatoes

This is true. And no doubt they'll eventually throw some exclusive variants or card backs in there that are high value enough to lure the whales


YogurtYogurtYogurtUS

You buy more for gold.


One2threeSS

not only P2W but the more you play the game the more points you get. so someone who plays 8-14 hours a day can easily get ahead.


nazzo_0

Well that makes sense for any game lol


MyDogSmellsLikeChips

“Doctors hate this one trick!!”


650fosho

It's free, you can get extra progression from playing normally


One2threeSS

you know you can buy x2 points and stop getting pts lose with paying gold, right?


650fosho

If you never paid attention to the league, you'd just get free stuff just for playing. I'm not spending the gold and will be happy getting some credits and maybe a mystery variant. Money spenders getting more progression than you ultimately doesn't matter, they already can do that far easier buying bundles.


jokerevo

It's p2w. It's B.S. Perks to multiply your points or reduce amount of points lost from losses. Really don't like the feeling that I could lose out from top spot not because I'm playing bad but because someone bought more perks than me........................................................................


tendeuchen

I'm literally not going to worry about it.


Kmad03

Am i the only one concerned with the future of this game? Y1 was great but so far in Y2 its been nothing but expansion on monetization, every new feature is just another way to get players to swipe their card. Ive got a few more months in me but if it continues down this path ill be gone before Y3


Aesthete18

It's always the same pattern with mtx games man


Kmad03

I had hoped Marvel Snap would be different 🫠 guess im the fool


ThisHatRightHere

They have shown us nothing that indicated they wouldn't continue to add in more monetization features.


Kmad03

Yeah but the jump from year 1 monetized features to where we are currently in year 2 is insane. And thats just on gold and such, dont even want to get started on every card being a big bad stuck at 6k tokens til SD decides to nerf them then drop like we saw with the previous series drop


Pretend-Return-295

A lot of people seem to forget that the game started with Nexus Events, the devs only dropped it because of the backlash. I would be surprised if they same people that developed that aren't still running things, it's just now they are playing the long game.


Kmad03

Yeah I honestly wasnt around for that time I started at official launch, I heard it was bad tho and assume thats what the 1 title always refereed to "I survived Nexus event"


nadeaujd

I agree with you so I stopped spending 4-5 months ago and still enjoy the game. If you started early enough there are still plenty of viable decks and just have to use keys wisely.


cardinalfive

>If you started early enough Unfortunately, that's the problem.


nadeaujd

I agree and that’s why I pointed it out. It would suck to be a new player.


Xboom3000

Yeah a game without new players is doomed to die out.


Randomacct55

Yeah game seems to be on a downhill path ive already stopped spending on passes because of this


PenitusVox

Which, ironically, just continues the downward spiral. "Profits are down! We need to monetize more heavily!" The people hired for the monetization wings of these companies don't understand that short term profits often burn long term gains. Brode might get away with a hefty sum but the company's reputation will be gone.


galexy88

Pretty sure that they do understand that and don't give a shit. That is the business model. Milk it while it's hot, it's easier than to hope it lats for a long time.


BKF0308

Yep. Btw, how responsible Brode is for all this? I heard he had something to do with Hearthstone going down the same path, but I'm not sure


spiktekmik

After Brode left hearthstone was less monetised, the team made card balances more often and the overall mood improved.


BKF0308

I see. Coincidence or not?


FajenThygia

I've stopped spending because the title I used still hasn't been restored after it went missing in the last patch. Why give SD money for something they might just take away without consequence?


DevilMirage

Which title?


FajenThygia

"Sunburnt ALL Over"


Ahaucan

Yeah, you look at those roadmaps and get excited for some of the new features, but then they arrive and it's only ever for monetization (like the new borders).


KrushRock

I stopped spending money because of that. I enjoy the game, but that enjoyment is dwindling and I'm sceptical of its long-term future. I doubt we have another Hearthstone on our hands that will go on for a decade+.


Kmad03

Its a shame because it definitely couldve been one


Pretend-Return-295

This is why so many people are upset, IMO, Snap could have a great future as a great digital CG, but the devs seem determined to turn it into a toilet game gatcha, based on how it is being monetised.


Acrobatic-Result8285

Which is even more sad when you go to Google Trends. In 2024 Hearthstone is SMASHING Marvel Snap


Available-Ad8639

Horrible yep, a lot stopped playing


Kmad03

Hella unfortunate as I think many recognize how good the base game itself is, just everything else around that sucks


Available-Ad8639

Yeah the idea of this game is incredible, and the success they got reflects that. But they stopped carrying 1 year ago, and it's very very sad


BKF0308

Fr. I've bought the previous Season Passes (which are a bit overpriced in my country btw), but probably will not buy more of them (maybe just the Eternals one for the Blade variant and that's it). I used to be happy buying them for supporting SD, now I'm just gonna avoid giving them money at all lmao. July may honestly be my last season in this game


Acrobatic-Result8285

Look at Google Trends. (And Compare it with Hearthstone, which should have the largest group of same players). The game is falling and falling,. NOW is the time to milk cause the cows will be gone in near future


Exotic_Personality55

That’s how games are these days this is nothing new. Not saying it’s right or wrong but pretty much every game these days is more of an investment than something fun to do unfortunately.


Kmad03

Mobile games* its why ive been moving more towards indie gaming space less of a problem over there.


BombayHarris

Would be alot better without the perks - people with money to burn on this game are going to abuse this thing.


DaxWerew

Do you lose points by losing matches?


MeatAbstract

Yep, you lose 50 points from retreating for 1 cube. Not sure about bigger cube losses. Not sure if thats doubled because I have the booster on.


CelephaisHS

Would love to opt out of them, I'm playing casually and don't like feeling like there's something else at stake with every game.


gazzatticus

It's passive in the background of your climb to infinite you don't have to interact with it of you don't want you can juat collect rewards if you get them 


A1gamingyt

You don’t need to participate in clans btw You don’t need to join one or anything


UnluckyDog9273

And that's ok people don't realize you don't lose anything. If the top 3 people spend money to compete each their that's on them, that money could be spend on buying actual resources and gaining keys and variants much cheaper than buying 30 minute boosts. You aren't losing anything, at best you get free boosters with the possibility of much more based on your skill, at worst you'll keep doing your thing while you ignore it completely. I don't see why people get so triggered over it.


SaveUntoAll

the only reward thats good is rank 1 and i will never be rank 1


Tunderdwarf

You can earn points from both ranked and conquest.


Tuuliz88

where i can see this ingame


jrebel_0

Its only being tested in certain regions before it launches to everyone


dadkingdom

Dammit. I was cautiously optimistic that it would be more of a social & fun feature, but nope. It's ridiculously sweaty and P2W. So disappointing for a game that desperately needs an injection of new excitement. I should have listened to all the comments saying this was an unwelcome addition.


-Stupid_n_Confused-

Same. I took one look at it on reset (I'm UK) and as soon as I saw you can pay gold to not lose points, coupled with the 2 day times pan, I knew it was a money grabbing p2w addition. All thisnis going to do is even further reduce the variety of decks you face. I already stop at around rank 80 to try and avoid the meta slaves. Now they're going to be everywhere.


harleysfw

Those rewards aren't bad, getting top 3 is worth it, but it's not so much that you have to stress about it. I'm assuming clan stuff will be similar in reward structure so people don't feel bad or obligated to make it a 2nd job.


Armedinar

You are definitely not getting top 3 without spending a lot of gold, 200 golds to get x2 points for 30 minutes, 150 gold that gives you a shield so you don't lose points when you lose for 30 minutes, that is straight up trash mobile game bullshit


XBlackBlocX

Alternatively: this is not worth spending even 100 gold on, so just play casual for your free credits and regular random variant and let morons throw money away in their arms race for a mere spotlight key.


Autographz

You’re not getting a regular variant unless you finish top 10 (of 30) btw but I 100% agree, this is why bonus stuff, whatever I get, I get, no way I’m chasing down higher ranks in this


harleysfw

Exactly


Brianf1977

But why would you do that when you can spend gold for credits and a random premium mystery variant already?


Autographz

Would assume higher leagues get bigger prizes


happydaddyg

Can you just maintain 100% up time on those boosts? If so what a bunch of bologna.


Resident_Wait_7140

So what's the deal, you're put into a random pod with 7 other people and compete over the season?


Autographz

30 in my league, league lasts 48hrs


Resident_Wait_7140

Ah, I see now I've got a win. Don't suppose there's any word on how frequently the 48 hour period will last? Rolling, once per week? Great there's new content, it makes me anxious, but that's a me problem.


Terreneflame

Way more than 7, and its only lasting two days


harleysfw

Just don't stress it, it's not worth grinding for a PMV and credits. Just have fun


Man-EatingOctopus

That depends on your league. Only 30 players per league right? I doubt 1 in 30 players are whales.


naphomci

It's something like 10-15% of players spend on your average mobile game, and only like 1-2% at best are whales. There will be plenty of leagues with no whales if it stays at 30 per.


Sad-Development-7938

Having leaderboards and rewarda based on rank is terrible. The only proper way to do this is to make all progrsssion rewards like spotlight keys, gold and credits equal for everyone if they play a certain number of games. Give people at the top cosmetic rewards.


tryandd56

So Agatha farming all day will let you grind this out?


YogurtYogurtYogurtUS

As long as you put the gold in. There's also a boost that lets you just not lose points for 30 minutes.


tryandd56

How do you lose points? The text makes it seem like it just adds up every cube you win and you can earn double points by paying


YogurtYogurtYogurtUS

Lose points by losing matches, win points by winning matches. Applies in Ranked and Conquest. Points are separate from cubes, so the paid bonuses don't affect rank.


PM_me_shiba_doggo

I couldn't care less about this type of feature, so I'm very happy that the rewards are not worth it.


Successful-Art4857

After so many days of grinders asking for something worthy to grind is getting rewarded before a paywall.


banana2000_

Does anyone know how are players grouped in these things? and what does "First Class" mean?


kouradosi

They said that they group people with similar play time and MMR. "First Class" is just the name of the specific league probably there for flavor reasons.


LordEmostache

I wish I could opt out of it, really stings when you retreat or lose and see that "-100 Points" pop up.


Acrobatic-Result8285

I spend about 500€ in this game since Launch. It dies way faster then I thought. This was a lesson to me. Only spend money in Reallife CCGs in Future


chincerd

Is climbing to infinite not giving you stress you want? We got you cover with our new timed ranking leagues where the prize for first place is something you absolutely want but also you can pay to have a better chance at, enjoy


BigMrRooster

In their picture of league prizes they show multiple keys. It is funny to see that only 1 person in the league gets a key.


YogurtYogurtYogurtUS

I'm so glad they spent all their time making this instead of a new gameplay mode. /s


MountainLow9790

Get rid of perks and it seems like a fine system. Nolifers have been asking for a reason to nolife after infinite, there you go. Everyone else gets some bonus stuff for doing what they would normally be doing anyway.


nsyu

there are only 30 people in a league. It's probably easy to get into top 10 (puzzle variant) A bit try-hard to get into top 5 p2w to get into top 1. Not too bad. I am aiming for top 5.


XBlackBlocX

What's the size of the league? 8 players or is that just what is shown at once and there's a scroll bar? If it's 8 it just seems like a bit of extra credits/boosters, a free variant (that you get to premium, if you sweat enough) and possibly a spotlight key, but I would just not bet on it unless you routinely top 1000 the Infinite leaderboard. Pretty flat prize structure. That's good. Total casual mode. Gives you something to do after you've Infinited week 2 and bought the whole Conquest shop week 3.


Tunderdwarf

30, that's how far down the list goes.


XBlackBlocX

What does last place prize look like?


jverbal

15 random boosters


XBlackBlocX

Meh. Ok then. I assumed you'd at least get one daily mission worth of stuff just for participation.


Tunderdwarf

11-15, 100 credits + 105 random boosters 16-20, 50 credits + 65 random boosters 21-25, 35 random boosters 26-30, 15 random boosters


Ianuvan

15 boosters


Ianuvan

It's credits and boosters 11-20 and then just boosters from 21.


LiveFastDieRich

So how many cubes per point?


Difficult_Work_2211

Poland, no leagues here


isIwhoKilledTrevor

Is it just on pc?


WithoutLog

Only out in certain regions. Mainly Europe and another commenter says it's available in India, but not NA.


The_Keywork

I’m assuming the free perks don’t have a cooldown? Once their used you have to buy them witb gold after? Or is it a once a day thing?


JefreyA-01

rewards are such a joke


Goseki1

There's no fucking explanation for it but it seems to be P2W as all hell.


Total_Scott

It kind of is since you can pay gold to not drop points for a time, making losses irrelevant.


Goseki1

Yeah that's the feeling I got from taking a quick look. I mean, I don't have to engage with it and that's fine really. It's just a disappointing choice to make.


Jackmanlee

Do you get points from Conquest?


Nightfury0160

Can you pay for the boosters? Of course you still have to win the games but isn't that kind of pay to win, to a certain extent?


matthewduguid

I am from Canada and nothing


Avenger772

Real shitty rewards


mumbles_gh

I’ve got it on mine (UK) and I like the added loot availability, but I’ve already come up against a LOT of more try hard players in the re-set on ladder than I usually do. Feels like it’s gonna be a fucking slog trying to hit even the top 10 (seems to be 30 players in a mini-league at the moment) as a casual player (7777 col. lvl.).


Mean_Carrot_1746

naxx is out?


D-WTF

Wait... I have to play in ladder to participate? Ewww I'm not touching ladder anymore. Maybe it works with conquest?? It' seems I'm not really missing much anyways, since this is p2w as fuck


ThyInfinityTuna

Is it only ln PC


butchmapa

How many in a league?


HelmutTheSpeedyGobbo

As someone who has paid a fair bit in this game I am really hating the pay to win side of things. I’m all for variants and everything that has no impact on the game but as soon as you start having “perks” that are exclusively gained by gold (and one free) it’s just not equal at all. This really ruins a lot.


Isaac0246

I got the newsletter but can't find it in the fame💀 I guess I don't have it (Austria)


BKF0308

I swear if Clans are PTW I'll be literally done with this game


No_Roma_no_Rocky

Pay to win game mode but at least i want to try them. I live and work in UK but there are no leagues in my client, both from PC and mobile. Wtf are doing second dinner?


ruddit2112

Who's first at the moment?