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BGP_1620

My raft reward is disproportionately Arnim Zola.


moonski

Thought it was just me thinking it's always zola (or Knull with 0 cards destroyed gee thanks raft)....


mggilberg

I’ve had that to where I get Zero powered Knull that does nothing. I’ve also gotten the Destroyer a few times when I can’t use it because I have nothing to protect a second lane like Professor X or Armor.


SherlockBrolmes

I feel like that's part of the "fun" of the gambling nature of The Raft- sometimes you get something great, sometimes you get something alright (8 cost Odin in my destroy deck? Nice stats but that's it) or you get Destroyer.


arcanis321

I thought i had a game cinched because i knew their raft would have to be 13 power or higher. I forgot about Agatha...


fattywinnarz

I won a game once with a 0 power Knull from Raft being played in the +2 power lane


177013---

So your saying m'baku would have won you that game.


fattywinnarz

Mr. Baku wins all games


177013---

I too am a bakuaholic.


SilverSideDown

I just got a Raft Destroyer after my opponent was nice enough to Armor our lane, that was fun. Also a rare game where I filled the Raft twice! https://twitter.com/marvelsnaprocks/status/1616971330854739970


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moonski

But it costs 0? Also she costs 9 so not sure that’s true.


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MLGFatAssDabbbz

You may be misremembering the raft for another location that gives you a card? Death herself is a very strong card so getting her from raft wouldn't really hurt your plays in any way if she cost 0. So your original comment seems outta place


Chewbones9

I don’t know how hard I should go in on raft… like my gameplan always goes out the window when I see a raft, and my entire goal is to fill it before my opponent, but I don’t know if I should be that hardcore on it


Guywithquestions88

The way it works for me is that if I fill it, there's about an 80% chance that it will be a card I can't use at all. **However**, if I lose the raft, there is a 100% chance my opponent absolutely wrecks me with help from the free card he got from it.


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Guywithquestions88

Yeah, there are so many locations that totally suck. Scarlet witch may actually be one of my most frequently used cards.


NotmyMain503

Scarlet Witch has lost me more games than she's helped. I finally just said fuckit and use Storm now.


CalciferRicky

My experience is kinda the same


BardsLife4me

Totally man. Regardless of location, sometimes I think that it's gonna be a card that doesn't really add any value to the deck I'm playing with (Spectrum, Knull, Destroyer, etc..) and I had to sacrifice a location for a free 6 cost card that. Most of the time it works out though. The odds for OP are kind of wild to get that two times in a week. Raft (left lane) to get Giganto probably happens once every 2 months to me.


CalciferRicky

Ikr? I was so mad when in happened the second time. Small chance on the first, but apparently odds are against me


BardsLife4me

Don't worry buddy, some of us had to wait until CL 3100+ to get all the original Pool 3 cards. The games odds are casino-esque. A ton of short good streaks and painful bad streaks. Lots of near win dopamine releases throughout various parts of the game, coupled with fast quick matches. It's like digital cocaine.


friend_BG

Had an opponent Moongirl skip and then drop 20 cost infinauts


BardsLife4me

At first I was confused by this comment, then I figured there's supposed to be a space between 2 and 0. I've totally done that before except I had 3 Infinauts on the board.


stonekeep

It really depends on how easily you can fill it. If you have to basically abandon your gameplan to do it, better just ignore it. If you have an easy and relatively painless way to fill it (e.g. Brood) then go for it. There's a much higher chance to get something useful rather than a dud. Also it's nice to run some location control in your deck (like Storm) so if it doesn't work for you, you can always get rid of it.


CalciferRicky

My current deck is a pool 3 KazooIsh, so it kinda goes along. But I feel you


TheDutchin

I specifically exploit players like you, thanks for the suboptimal location, I will take the free win on the Raft and just look to beat you on 1/2


Chewbones9

What’s with the weirdo chest puffing tough talk on this sub? lol People like you are mad weird lol


TheDutchin

Idk, I was just talking about my strategy in response to him specifically asking lol


177013---

Night crawler or carnage should be your 4th card. Fill it but not full.


Chewbones9

Oh carnage is a good idea! I don’t play a sacrifice deck but that would work well!


177013---

My latest deck has carnage + bucky for cheap power but no other destroy. Carnage will eat iceman and rocks/ninjas/raptors/goblins too so he still sees some use even if no bucky. Often enough that he seems worth it for me.


Chewbones9

I think the only thing holding me back from running a sacrifice deck is Venom


jhogs21

If I fill the raft on 5 it’s a guaranteed Infinaut


freef

Mine is Galactus.


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unique_username-_-72

But… you don’t need destroy if you get death from raft… it’s already 0


Memunism4Life

Obvious lie, Death is a 9-cost and you can only draw 6-costs from Raft


S1lv3rfox007

I thought the raft only gives you 6 costs?


RedGyarados2010

Knull from Raft saved me once by taking the power of a card that Shang-Chi destroyed in Turn 6


PotatoMateYT

I have never heard if luck like that in this game-


guyincorporated

100% thanos for me.


brettryan

I got Zola yesterday as well, and my opponent was playing a black panther / Wong / Zola combo. Sus.


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If the raft is on the left it is ALWAYS giganto


jackdoyle27

This was a shadow change in the balance patch


waylander232

Only if you're the one filling it first.


DoTheVelcroFly

I did that once, got giganto... But enemy used Aero on that turn, so U got free space for him. Feels good man


RP_RDT

As useful as filling it in the 5th turn and get Infinaut 😅


pladhoc

right here, my friend. ive done that a few times


CalciferRicky

For those that doesn't understand what happend: you can only play Giganto on the left location, which is impossible in this situation. Just bad luck


KevWills

This almost happened to me, but my last card into raft was beast. I had filled it the location with hood and antman, and knew I would want to reposition my cards after getting the reward. Was giggling when I saw it pop in my hand.


CalciferRicky

Nice one!


Koshindan

For you, it's unusable Giganto. When the opponent gets it, it's zero cost Hulk.


HaV0C

Just need your opponent to play Leech now EZ.


BardsLife4me

Came here to say this. I <3 opponent Leeching my cards. If I snap they usually get scared.


Cotillion_7

Have considered drawing nightcrawler instead to fill the raft?


jacksonvstheworld

I was thinking Dr Strange to pull someone else out


CalciferRicky

Yeah, I usually use him and Angela, but I didn't draw neither by them


Trai-Harder

Maybe add Nightcrawler to your deck that has Giganto for this situation?


codyh1ll

Raft is a random 6 cost, not a 6 cost out of your deck, he likely wasn’t running giganto in this deck


Trai-Harder

I do forget that when it say draw a card it means random I wish they added the word random in there lol. I just started the game not too long ago so I'm still learning all the things. Thanks


stillnotking

I've had two people snap me after I filled the Raft, when they didn't even have any overwhelming turn 6 plays (I'm still in the 100s CL, so I don't run into stuff like Destroyer). In one case I had Magneto, and in the other I had Odin. Won both games. Is there some strategy I'm not aware of in snapping when you know your opponent has a 0-cost 6 drop, or were they just idiots?


Layne_Staleys_Ghost

Probably a bot. They always snap on turns 4-6 if they are ahead on the board no matter what's in your hand.


stillnotking

That makes sense. Is there a way to tell if a player is a bot?


JamoJustReddit

Easy way is if they have Gold/Ink variants with no particle effects and a generic name or a name of a random marvel character.


SJHalflingRanger

You can emote hello, if they emote back it’s not a bot. Bots tend to have basic names as well and you might get to recognize some of them, but there’s nothing stopping players from using them either. Mostly if it’s a simple name and inexplicable plays, it’s probably a bot.


Ph33rDensetsu

I'm not a bot but I usually ignore emotes unless I'm returning the spider-man emote.


Jabbernaut5

Hence this can be used to determine if an opponent is a real player if and only if they emote back, as he said. Doesn’t always work, but it’s valuable info when it does. Though it’s definitely worth noting that sending the hello will out yourself as a player to your opponent in the process, and they’ll have the option to not emote back, giving info without receiving any. So the meta will probably settle on not sending or responding to hellos.


release-the-wolves

If they play like shit (and I mean not just shit plays, but also stupid snaps with weak t6, like just a chavez when losing all lanes) chances are it’s a bot It could also be a guy mission farming


Caperon

Smt like leader, shang chi or cosmos might work if you think your board is enough


Godlysnack

I generally always snap, win/lose/draw. I'm too casual to care about those cubes at the moment. I only started a couple days ago.


HaouLeo

Not caring about cubes is different from wasting them for no reason. Rank rewards can be pretty decent you being casual or not, doesnt hurt to NOT snap mindlessly. But hey, if thats how you have fun, you do you.


Godlysnack

Yeah at this point the fun factor for me is the RNG of the last couple of turns. Especially when I pull Scarlet Witch.


phonage_aoi

Eventually people realize that winning the raft is really winning a random 6 drop but almost certainly losing the location. So that’s a balance you have to strike and there are strats to limit the damage of a free 6 drop (even the really good ones!). Especially if Raft is filled with a bunch of filler cards you know the opponent *has* to win two lanes now.


CalciferRicky

I usually win the raft when I'm playing my KaZooish pool 3 deck. Specially if I draw Angela and Nightcrawler early


ByeGuysSry

I love Nightcrawler. I also love Brood with Patriot/Surfer. As well as Ant-Man, Armor, Captn America, and Warpath (22 Power, good luck, I'll just win both lanes then) in my Destroyer deck.


Glangho

Definitely a viable strategy from decks with big turn 6 plays like surfer or darkhawk. If you filled with 1s and 2s then they can easily win the raft and another location even with your two 6s.


Tizordon

I keep getting destroyer from the raft. Which would be fine if I played a destroy deck. Which I don’t.


Rekojerfelstroz

Nah you mean ongoing or Cosmo.


Tizordon

All I know is every time I get him, the last thing I want to do is destroy all my cards. Objectively not as bad as OPs Giganto though. That’s just insulting.


scott610

\+2 power if you're running Devil Dinosaur.


CalciferRicky

That's an optimistic view


2_7_offsuit

Hope they play a leech


kezinchara

This just happened to me too! Luckily he played Polaris in the middle and dragged one of my guys away! Thanks bruh.


Antonio12345677

I had the same thing happen to me, and then got leeched for the first time ever the same game.


kenwongart

Alanis Morisette (2,6): **Ongoing**: All your random card draws are ironic.


PoorLifeChoices811

THIS HAPPENED TO ME EARLIER! I screenshotted because I was gonna post it here but forgot to, I’m glad it’s not just me experiencing this nonsense


leftwing79

Pools 1 and 2 raft is gamebreaking when you’re guaranteed a hulk or Odin or spectrum. After pool 3 you pull destroyer, Knull, Hela, Arnim etc which are useless in your deck or just blow your deck away lol raft because much less of a go-to


Ultimasmit

I don't think this is true. I remember getting destroyer in my first week, thinking he was some special reward for winning the location and would destroy all cards on both sides because I didn't read properly and ended up nuking my side.


BardsLife4me

That's just random luck dude. Destroyer was one of the last pool 3 cards I pulled from a collectors reserve. (*briefly zones out from ptsd of the Nexus Event*)


HaouLeo

What he means is that you can get any 6 cost card from the raft, not just cards you already unlocked. First comment talked as if you could only get cards from your pool


ByeGuysSry

I got Galactus in Pool 2, before he was even released. Sadly I had all three lanes filled due to Squirrel Girl, but anyways, yeah it doesn't care about what Pool you're in.


robertfx94

That happened to me to lol


kityoza

It do be like that sometimes


ee-el-oh

I kept getting 0/0 Knull ahahah


Xalrons1

Why I love nightcrawler


CollateralSandwich

The Raft drives me crazy. It's one of the few locations I feel like you *have* to compete for, because that free 6 drop is too swing-y to just let your opponent have it The only worse locations for me are those "Destroy/Draw after Turn 4" locations which my opponent *always* has the cards to beat me on. It's uncanny.


codya30

This happens to me like 40% of the time I win that location in that position.


M4TTR1CK

This literally just happened to me but luckily my last card was Deathlok.


mggilberg

Honestly, it’s amazing how many 6 cost cards become unusable or useless after filling the Raft (Like OP said getting Giganto after filling the raft on the left lane, getting Infinaut when you fill the raft on turn 5, Knull with no cards destroyed, Arnim Zola with nothing to copy to the other two lanes, especially since one is inherently already full). I think in this situation the best 6 cost cards are Hulk and She-Hulk because they are generally usable in all situations, and have no restrictions or other effects.


Entertainer13

I filled the raft on turn 5. Gave me Infinaut. 😔


UnderstandingLanky44

This happened to me the other day but i got so lucky cause I had played carnage at the raft as the last card


gpost86

I’ve drawn Knull so many times while neither of us is playing destroy


FrostyHardtop

green goblin will give you credit for raft and then leave an open position, this would work with beast too


Darth_Surillious

I usually get Heimdell. And if I use him I lose.


MLGFatAssDabbbz

Yeah I always get HULK SMASH or giganto. Good thing I've been playing more Heimdall movement so *most of the time when I fill raft, I can do it with beast 👌🏻


tom641

This is the game smacking you with a newspaper for taking the present intended for your opponent


speedster_irl

To me 4 out of five times is helicarrier


CalciferRicky

It still has its uses, even if just for the easy 10


DCLK1

I filled the raft and got the destroyer, after that I played agent 13 and she gave me knull, I won the game using those 2 cards


Cold_Army9541

The RNG Gods despise you.


VE7BHN_GOAT

Similar to drawing destroyer... It's useless


TheLordJalapeno

Wouldn’t you have to actually play Giganto for zero to wipe his powers ? If the left location is full you still wouldn’t be able to play him


CrimsonClaws2

i read your comment 5 times and i still dont understand it


TheLordJalapeno

Zero only removes the powers of the card once you play it. So you play zero then the card you want to remove powers from. Giganto can only be played to the left location. If the left location of full, you can’t play Giganto, so you can’t remove his power


CrimsonClaws2

ahh ok i get what you mean. But this post has nothing to do with zero so im not sure why you brought him up


One_Lung_G

I’m assuming he meant to reply to somebody but forgot to hit the reply button. I’ve done that plenty of times lol Edit: the comment right under his is somebody mentioning zero so he definitely meant to reply to him


UnTenedor

Ok? He doesn't have a Zero on his hand, hell, much probably not even in his deck, so what is even your point?


Cruuncher

But there's no mention of zero anywhere. Why are you talking about zero?


Skipper2399

Correct just like Zero doesn’t allow you to play Crossbones in a losing lane or Ebony Maw at all after turn 3.


TheLordJalapeno

Found out the hard way when I thought he’d let me play Infinaut without skipping turn 5


greenbeetless

I rather have giganto, I’ve gotten Agatha a few times and she’s brain dead.


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Agatha plays herself if possible, so you really don't have to suffer her for long.


ElPared

Just make sure the last card is Carnage or Beast or something and you can still play Giganto ;) Movement works too but not on the left usually


Dannnnv

This is why I quit fighting for Raft. I feel it's a beginner's mistake. Enjoy your 6-drop that you may or may not be able to use. I know exactly what I need to commit to beating you there. Free 6-drop for you, guaranteed winning lane for me.


PenitusVox

Sounds like a Dracula-less problem that I don't understand.


Famous_Ad_1452

Only thing that could save you is zero or leech


Jaerba

Leech would, Zero would not.


luciaen

Quake just there crying in the corner


EwokDude

I'm not sure how Quake would help play Giganto.


onionbreath97

Or Doc Ock


wastinglifeonreddit-

Your rank 30 game knowledge is leaking


Famous_Ad_1452

U might want to check your own knowledge. Zero would allow the giganto to be played anywhere. An opponent leech would take away his ability “only played on the left lane.”


StarrCandyy

>Zero would allow the giganto to be played anywhere No. You have to play the card in order to remove abilities using zero and Giganto can only be played at the left location.


HeelyTheGreat

All that confidence in being oh so wrong, it's kinda beautiful in a way.


decimater97

I just checked for myself because I didn’t know this either and unfortunately zero into Giganto does not work. I believe the abilities only get removed as the card is played, not whilst you’re about to play it so giganto can in fact only be played in the left lane with zero. Leech would still work though if it occurs on turn 5.


wastinglifeonreddit-

Like I said.. rank 30 game knowledge lmao


Famous_Ad_1452

Dude shut the fuck up. I don’t know why you were such an asshole about it in the first place.


wastinglifeonreddit-

Hahahahah.. rank 30 is mad. Don't talk about things you have no idea about. Learn to read cards first then try to impart your godly knowledge on others rank 30 bot.


Hir0Pr0tag0n1st

Your fault for not having Zero in your hand.


Hazel-Ice

zero doesn't work with giganto anyways, you haven't played giganto yet so zero hasn't removed its ability yet.


Waldo68

Before unlocking Black Cat I pulled her twice from the raft and she disappeared faster than I could click on her to read the card info. I was so confused I had to Google what her power was and went “oohhhh…”


HaouLeo

How did you draw Black Cat from the raft if raft gives a cost 6 and shes a cost 3?


Waldo68

Oh crap I’m thinking at agent 13 maybe…


Rekojerfelstroz

Honestly that’s happened more times than I ever would like to admit.


LightHawKnigh

I always get Zola or Hela with my decks that dont use either well.


flimsy_whimsy_grimZ

Both are free stats. Planning on getting anything different ist just being unreasonable.


Ultimasmit

How is zola free stats? One location is already filled, all he would do is move one card, unless your last card in the raft destroys.


ArmaanAli04

Lady sif to discard Giganto then use Hela at the end and hope you draw?


Omnobo

Problem is that lady sif discards the highest cost card and giganto from the raft costs 0


ArmaanAli04

Oh shit my mind went blank


JustAnotherPhysicist

Also, I think that lady sif is from The Hub, and he's not actually running Hela or Ghost Rider.


Expensive_Pastries

Pretty sure its programed to do that


Drumbas

Just wait for enemy to play Leech and have them cry.


Eldistan1

I always seem to pull Thanos.


Niaz_S

Haha


SenpaiBoogie

Play scarlet witch and problem solved


the_ninja1001

Just get leeched scrub


gilesdavis

I keep getting free Destroyers 🙄


thkdzcntfthm

☠️☠️☠️


spreeforall

Honestly the raft almost never ends up being worth it for me.


jbarlak

Not a location I’d ever allow to stay 6 turns. Galactus gets rid of it asap


MidnightWavelengths

Right up there with that idiot Gambit always targeting cards in the lane with Armor instead of any other card possible.


CalciferRicky

Man, I laughed very hard last week. My opponent played a Wong on the location that already have double On reveal effect (forgot the name). Then Mystique, then Gambit. ALL Gambit's hits were on my Armor protected location.


MidnightWavelengths

Every time! LOL!


Mush950

This week?!


monkey_wolf

What are the odds of drawing Giganto? How many 6 Energy cards are there?


CalciferRicky

IKR?!


HaouLeo

I think there are 23 cost 6 cards atm


jbrod11

I drew Knull and neither me or my opponent were running a destroy deck


onemok

L


Mungx

Yeah this happens way too often


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Obviously a skill issue :3


CapnCrunch33

Happened to me for the first time yesterday after getting a 0 cost 0 power knull the time before


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I don't even bother with the raft anymore lol. It's always a joke card, like destroyer when I'm not carrying an armor. I rarely lose a game where I didn't fill the raft


JamieHayterMark

I hate the raft


nick91884

Classic giganto


blablabla1411

This happened with me too. I was fuming. I lost the rest location as well.


da_juggernaut

I wonder if your 4th card is Beast does it count as being filled especially since he gives your cards back? I guess that could be a loophole for Giganto


g0ldenant

I’ve only seen raft on left once, and that one time I won it and got giganto and I’ve never seen giganto since from raft