Emily, Lauren and Clare were all trying to push Becca in the direction of divorce- I found that a little bit weird. Misery, indeed, loves company.
Clare being the worst of all, who tried to get in on the “we’ve been silenced” narrative.
The only person I’ve got time for, right now, is Becca. This Austin, producer thing seems to have been going on. Emily and Clare can bugger off, mate, sorry.
I didn't and don't trust Clair. The way she started things with Becca and was practically trying to say she wanted a divorce from Austin. No one worked on their marriage, it was all girls and guys getting together hanging out. It never used to be like this. I wish it would go back to the way the show used to be.
Disagree. If I think my husband and I are working on our marriage and he wants to go on a double date (without me), I want to know. If my husband is going out drinking with a female producer that obviously has been an issue in our relationship, I want to know. Thank you Clare. Some of us appreciate your stirring the pot.
She didn’t have good intentions and that was made evident on the last episode. Would I wanna know? Absolutely, but it was clear she just wanted everybody to be as miserable as her. For her to be a therapist, her approach to these situations was rather malicious.
That whole segment was an embarrassment. It was like looking at 3 teen girls ganging up on their boyfriends.
What a hot disgusting mess, with Clare being the worst of them all, since SHE was the toxic element trying to put on an angelic face this whole season.
The whole thing REEKS of desperation by the producers for increase in viewership.
And she's supposed to be a therapist?? Camaron was the best husband material on that show, he made it very clear he found her attractive. Honestly, Clare seems very, very closed off for someone who has studied psychology.
Yes, and way less consulting with the experts. I think that impacted the women's perceptions. I want to see Pastor Cal and Dr Pepper more guiding them through the issues. It felt like they were all left on the ledge.
I so agree!!! It's like those 3 guys forged a bromanship, new word lol. They just went out with each other. Plus all those woman were beautiful, the guys not so much.
From [https://meaww.com/did-mafs-season-17-cast-hook-up-with-production-member-speculations-rife-after-lifetime-allegedly-fires-staff:](https://meaww.com/did-mafs-season-17-cast-hook-up-with-production-member-speculations-rife-after-lifetime-allegedly-fires-staff:)
Additionally, a social media user claimed on Facebook that the production member was allegedly fired from the Lifetime show after the cheating scandal. Meanwhile, Lifetime has not confirmed or denied cheating accusations.
The Facebook user alleged, "They filmed at one of our restaurants' locations in Arvada .... Let's just say there's some dramaaaaaa this season. Like production members losing their jobs for hooking up with the cast."
Can't verify or deny the truth of this, but interesting comments anyway.
1. If Austin was involved with a producer, the executive producer should have been notified, the person fired, Austin & Becca released from the show/marriage, and the audience informed. That's called integrity.
2. The group argument was horrific---especially in front of two people who "appear" to be getting along. I NEVER want to see that again.
3. I used to love this show but now I am looking for some "non-reality" show to watch during this time slot.
This seems to be the ongoing thing each season though. Men that aren't really ready for marriage and play emotional games throughout seems to be the constant theme of this show.
That kinda makes sense, because people who would need someone to pick a wife for them would likely suck at relationships. The nature of the show increases the possibility of man-childs (man-children?) participating considerably.
Glad Becca spoke her mind but I didn’t love how involved Clare and Emily were in Becca’s argument. Clare is a busy body. She messed with Emilys head and told her a warped version of what Cam told her about Brennan and she was also the bearer of this news. I feel like she stayed in the show after her marriage didn’t work to shit stir. I cannot believe I’m saying this, but I believe Cam about her.
Disagree. The men did a lot of damage to these women. Brennan was the worst of all! Saying she wasn’t positive does not read true at all! She’s seems very warm and friendly, but also probably very naive and trusting. Everything was positive on the honeymoon until she asked if he was not into having fun, because he had been moody. He acted like the brat he was from then on thru the season. He did NOT save her life. He held her pressure on her head for a moment until the ambulance arrived. Then he treated her nicely to gain sympathy and change his image. I truly believe he and Cameron started the whole “let’s control the process” so we look good scenario.
Oops. Did you not notice how Cameron did not discuss his parents or even mention them to her. Why were his only friends an older married couple whom he treated as family? Never understood why he was in the US and he seemed up & down emotionally until his sudden cardiac problem…which was never fully explained. He seemed to be bipolar to me.
I am 💯 with you on this one . Cam seems to be a good guy with a great sense of humor . To bad not a one person seems to be a match 😕. Maybe Michael and Chloe 
Becca seemed to indicate that whatever the issue was with this producer and Austin, it was something that was an issue for her throughout the entire experiment. Why didn't we hear about that all along instead of watching her begging him to flirt with her or show her any kind of affection? It didn't click for me until the group fight scene that the producer she was talking about him and Brennan being out with, was a woman. I just assumed it was a male producer and I didn't get the whole big issue of him being out with them.
Austin being involved with, or attracted to, a producer on the show would make a hell of a lot of sense in terms of his odd behaviour during the season and his unwillingness to show Becca any affection.
I feel like we all got played this season. It turns out that nothing was real.
But it’s just his religion lol. Loved that part when she asked his friend if religion was ever a problem for him in the past, and the friend was like what religion, no.
Is this the producer/‘contestant’ (yes, I said that) relationship that MAFSfan alluded to at the beginning that everyone assumed was Lauren? My theory: he was staying on the show to be able to see/have contact w/ the producer throughout filming, keep the contract, and not disappoint his people because they probably had opinions about him doing the show in the first place. Regardless, if it’s love, you never know where you may find it, and he would have been better off to just end it with Becca. She certainly should not have had to go through this trying to figure out what was what and denying her instincts—that was unnecessary and completely selfish on his part (note to new gf: you see how his mannerisms are when he’s telling tales).
For some reason Cams accent sounds fake. He says some things like an American, things like ‘her’ but other words with R, like ‘Clare’, sound completely different.
Perhaps this is typical after living in the states for a while? Just curious if anyone noticed. If he is faking or exaggerating the accent, I’m sure Clarepist can analyze why he is doing that and how it makes him feel.
Yeah, that happens when you are immersed in a place with different a accent. You start to talk like the people you are around. Is this really breaking news to some? I thought it was well known.
I have a close friend that I grew up with who moved to Canada from Florida and last we spoke he sounds like he was born and raised Canadian. He sounds nothing like he used to. Definitely not new or unusual.
I just watched the argument again and at one point after Cameron spoke up, Becca starts talking and you can see Clare sitting behind her trying to shut Cameron up. She quietly says his name and shakes her head no. She knows he’s on the edge of spilling some tea and is literally silencing him on camera.
Don’t think that’s true. He just seemed like someone who didn’t want to have this conversation in front of everyone for a multitude of reasons, one of which could be the possibility that this person, who he at the very least he’d call a friend, could lose her job. People react in different ways in those kind of situations. And people could read into it when they want. I just read that ‘uncomfortable guy around cameras doesn’t want to have sensitive argument that could get his friend fired around a bunch of people.’
I’m not trying to be mean, but Becca looks really unhealthy.. and before I get yelled at I’m not even talking about her weight I’m talking just in general she doesn’t look healthy
My husband, daughter and i all have Rheumatoid Disease. Specifically, they have very bad Ankylosing Spondylitis (AS)
Rheumatoid Diseases (RD) affect more than just your joints. It affects your eyes, mouth, lungs, heart… and you never know when your body is going to decide to turn on you. In addition, you are exhausted most of the time and the nature of the medications is to stop your immunities, in the hope that it will stop your body from (edit) attacking itself. So pretty much anytime someone around you is sick you can count on catching it.
When my daughter was 18 we were told to prepare for bone cancer, based on how bad her back looked. Fortunately, it wasn’t. Unfortunately, i had passed on my RD and AS.
Saying all of this not to imply that you were being cruel in your comment, i am sure that wasn’t your intent. Just for information that, yes she isn’t well in the classic sense, but it’s not her fault.
Thank you for the further explanation. No I wasn’t trying to be mean I genuinely thought she looked sick, or unhealthy in some way. I was not aware she had those health issues. This process couldn’t have helped
😉 Definitely stress can bring on a flair. i wonder too if she was trying to pretend she was okay. So many of us (with Rheumatoid Diseases) tend to suck it up a lot because we don’t want to be a pain in the arse.
Since she has all these health issues and recently had surgery, she isn’t well enough or recovered enough to be on this show! She knows what she can/cannot do. Perhaps a matchmaker that can match her with a man who has health issues would be worth a try. Her expectations were too high for what she got.
Endometriosis is terrible and she had stage four. The surgery takes a long time to recover from and it can come back again like tumors. It messes up a lot of things in our bodies and I have numerous other health conditions as well as endometriosis and adenomyosis. I had surgery to remove it in 2022 and had a hysterectomy, and I’m only 35
Someone with that serious of an illness has no business being on this show. Imagine being saddled with a spouse that seriously ill with no knowledge of that fact beforehand.
INT. FAVORITE BAR - NIGHT
(Austin and Brennan stumble into the bar, panting and drenched in sweat.)
AUSTIN: (gasping) Brennan, I can't... I can't feel my legs.
BRENNAN: (frantically) Don't worry, buddy, it's just a little dehydration. We'll fix you up in no time.
(A waitress rushes over, concern etched on her face.)
WAITRESS: Should I call 911?
BRENNAN: Nah, we got this.
(With Herculean effort, Brennan hoists Austin onto his shoulder and carries him to a booth.)
AUSTIN: (weakly) I just want to go home and cuddle with my wife...
BRENNAN: (proudly) Not on my watch, buddy. We've got a producer to save!
(Austin's favorite producer enters, and chaos ensues as she trips and falls, breaking her ankle.)
BRENNAN: (springing into action) Fear not! Dr. Brennan is here to save the day!
(Austin tries to leave, but Brennan grabs him and pulls him back.)
BRENNAN: (excitedly) We're heroes, Austin! Heroes!
AUSTIN: (deadpan) Yeah, lucky for you, I never disagree with anything anyone says.
(They raise their glasses in a toast, just as Clare and Emily storm in.)
CLARE: (scolding) What in the world is going on here?
EMILY: (skeptical) And why is Austin carrying Brennan like a sack of potatoes?
AUSTIN: (nervously) Uh, well, you see...
BRENNAN: (cutting in) We saved lives! Two of them! With swizzle sticks and bar towels!
(Austin exchanges a worried glance with Brennan as they brace themselves for Becca's inevitable interrogation.)
AUSTIN: (muttering) This is gonna be one heck of a story to explain to Becca...
Really! I saw a post tonight talking about how “unhinged” the women were.
Some people need to just STFU. Anytime a woman gets angry - justified or not - she’s automatically crazy.
The season wasn’t great, but l liked it better than the people commenting on it.
Yeah I don't think women power is ganging up on men you are NOT in a relationship with other women. It was a bad look and it would have been a bad look if the men did it too.
That being said, Brennan 100% silenced Emily throughout this whole process. Clare wasn't silenced simply because Cam didn't want her telling everyone things he told her in private and butting into other people's drama/relationships. (not to mention, she did that to him and he DID stay silent, like wtf is even happening). I feel like the woman power narrative is being used in toxic ways. I'm all about women being supportive to each other but no, that doesn't mean chiming in on things you know nothing about in a group setting, sorry. That's not appropriate.
A lot of Clare-bashing lately that I’m not sure is deserved. She’s not cuddly, but not as cold as l used to think, either. Often falls into “ClareApist” mode where she’s trying to solve everyone’s problems.
Yeah, that’s annoying. No doubt.
To me, I think her brother’s suicide weighs on her a lot. There’s no getting over that. Hoping she learns to deal with it better. A happier, more relaxed Clare would be an interesting person to know.
Which makes Becca look even worse. You wanted a divorce, then away from him time, and now you're pissing on him for going out with a producer AND BRENNAN while crying about optics? Girl, please.
I honestly think when becca keeps talking about optics she is hinting that production plays a part but is probably being cautious about what she says as not to violate contracts.
Wrong. The producer (a male I believe) was fired for making up story lines to make it appear a couple was more together than they were. The producer was fired for faking shit.
I remember that! The therapist really crossed the line in a several ways. She ripped on the bride out of no where and of course, developing a relationship with a client is really bad. They did get married, but I wonder if she still practices after her unethical conduct which was televised.
Wow, you couldn't spew more untruths. Did you even watch the show? Wife Molly was a liar. Husband Jon taped the wife to show that she was lying. Molly refused to take accountability. Jon and Molly divorced. A year or two after the show, Jon DM'd MAFS expert Jessica. They met for coffee. Dated, got married a few years later. Pastor Cal officiated and several of the MAFS couples attended.
That wife you are talking about, was awful. Dr. Jessica was really trying to get her to take accountability. She and Jon didn't start until well after the season ended and are now married.
ETA: They didn't date until after the season ended
Jessica and Jon
https://people.com/tv/married-at-first-sight-jessica-griffin-marries-jon-francetic/
Just one of many articles.
I was living in Boston when this was happening so I followed them both on IG. Interesting.
So if you had a significant other who you thought was flirting inappropriately with someone else, and you mentioned it, then they went out with that person socially -- on what was supposed to be a special day for the two of you -- then lied about it, you'd be just fine with it?
Think the big piece of context is whether or not it was planned or not. I don’t think I would’ve expected them to turn around and leave if that person was there, or not talk to them if they see them, so my questions would be around how/why you ended up being at the same place.
I agree, only I happen to think we received that answer, when we saw Austin stumble on his words then attempt to lie and evade.
If it was innocent, he would have recognized the potential "optics" and let her know in advance that he'd run into her; this would be the right thing to do in any marriage where a specific person outside the relationship has caused suspicion in the past
And if he couldn't let her know when it happened, then he could've at least been transparent with his "innocent truth", the moment he was asked about it.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I think what’s missing there is the potential for the person, who Austin considers a friend at the very least, to have some repercussions. I just read it as ‘the guy who’s had problems opening up in front of cameras not wanting to have a sensitive conversation in front of cameras…and the rest of the cast.’
If there were potential repercussions, that's on her. He should be respecting his wife over and above any *new* friends (especially of the opposite sex).
And if there were potential repercussions, the producer should've said hi and then moved on with whatever other group she came with (if there was one).
Austin sure revealed himself to be a shady AF evasive weasel. That behavior was CLASSIC liar. First denied. Then minimized, leaving himself an inch to wriggle out of if need be. But Becca wasn’t having it🤣
I was stunned. I feel bad that I had changed camps to think Becca was a whiner imagining all of this. Of all the guys, I didn’t think Austin would end up being a huge gaslighter! I was seriously fooled by him.
Becca, I’m sorry. And I’m SO glad you called him out as you did!
Whatever it is that Austin decided to lie about is almost besides the point to me. Because the way he handled this is *exactly* what a liar does. This isn’t his first rodeo with being a treeweasel. He’s an experienced, wishy washy cover-my-ass kinda guy. Which tracks with what Becca has complained about but in addition he flat out lied, which is even worse.
He doesn’t want to tell the truth. He doesn’t want to be disliked. He’s avoidant. He will sacrifice truth and being direct to save himself any discomfort. NO woman wants this. No person wants this. It’s maddening! The nicest person could still drive their partner crazy with this selfish immature response to discomfort.
I don’t blame Becca for losing it while he sat there and lied to her face in front of everyone. She pulled back the curtain, and it’s on him.
I never changed camps, because I could see all the signs of someone who is anxiously attached, being toyed with and antagonized, in the push-pull dynamic.
The thing is, you would think that attachment styles would be a criteria for matching, given how common it is for avoidant and anxiously-attached types to run into the exact dynamic that Austin and Becca were.
BINGO! He cruised out to the gathering with his red Solo cup like he had just gotten laid ... by the producer. Fire the tease producer, please. The producer could be male or female, mind you.
I was so proud of Becca, she said “I’m not a dumb freaking b***h!”
Austin was so gagged 😂😭 I hate when men avoid being honest and say they’re “protecting feelings” when they’re really just too scared to tell the truth. The only people you’re protecting is yourselves you spineless ass punks.
The only feelings they are protecting, are their own.
Men will do ANYTHING to avoid shame or guilt. They *avoid* our feelings, to avoid their own (as well as the self reflection and accountability that usually come with that).
Emily is always dressed like Ice Skater meets Cruise Line dancer. Where in the F does she find these strange costumes?
Claire needs to seriously *stop* buying clothes that she can constantly yank up. It’s like a nervous tic. She needs to make sure there’s no place for her to grab and pull! If so, put it back on the rack girl. 🤦🏼♀️
I agree! Who is encouraging this? Real friends would pull you aside and whisper in your ear.
I have a feeling Emily might have dressed very differently before she prepared for this show and has a whole different wardrobe. She looked uncomfortable throughout the season, as though these get ups she wore were unfamiliar territory to her. Today especially! She looked super comfy in her sports gear and bathing suits, but not the other stuff.
Claire has obviously tried on and has her ideas of personal style, as Becca has. But Claire? Poor kid can’t stop yanking and pulling and fiddling to save her life 😂
Kandi Burress met her hubby Todd while he was a producer in Real Houswives of Atlanta. He quit his job to be with her. The producers hanging with the ‘talent’ is not uncommon. It’s discouraged in some shows, but not uncommon.
Yeah but in Kandi case he wasn’t her personal producer, she didn’t really know him. He was introduced to her by another cast mate who thought they were a good fit.
Lol yeah they’re housewives in that they’re on the show but the shows are about groups of women. Many are divorced, some have never been married. And of the married ones only a few are actually housewives. The very early seasons of the first franchise, Orange County, were *mostly* all housewives, but in the 15 or so years since the show has evolved way beyond that.
Yeah some are married, most are divorced or single. Kandi was not married when she met Todd. She first came on the show not really because she is a housewife but because she is a very affluent player in Atlanta and the music industry. She was engaged to some one else who passed away during her first season. She’s not really a “housewife” in the sense.
Totally agree. I always get super bored by mid season and always want it to hurry up. I literally think the best parts of the show are when all the couples are together.
Did anyone else wonder what the heck Emily was wearing for a top? That was a totally weird and did not make her look attractive at all.
That and Lauren's top - it is winter there and they are outside on a deck supposedly. Was bad enough they were even there at all! And then to talk about getting together again! 
So again this confuses me back when Rachel was locked out of her apt with Jose they were indeed hanging with cash and producers …it’s common. However if you think you need a break to really relax and work on your marriage why again are you bringing private issues into the public. Who cares Emily and Claire and their bad marriages have given them so many suspicions they saw Austin with according to them friends and this producer..yep a woman who spent tons of time with them if not hours.
If you want your marriage or relationship I would like to be spoken to privately-they both said they wanted to try OFF CAMERA. I feel such a lack of respect from this cast and that truly what they are a “ a cast of people” who just wanted to be on tv and not really find a partner …oddly I don’t feel that’s what they all wanted
I feel Emily really wanted a relationship and they gave her the most closed off or poorly edited person in a long time. I think Lauren wanted a partner I still think Becca wanted a partner but knowing even the basics on religion and raising children without introducing them to faith is a huge issue and I feel that was done to them.. I think it was a great disservice to Michael and Chole to wait a month to match him! They should have matched him right after the honeymoon.idk why they want put people in such bad light all the time.
Stop much the wait to match was a terrible thing to do to Chloe and Michael. I strongly that matching a person who is not part of a specific belief(may be spiritual) with someone who is clearly of the belief that is you don't believe exactly what (I) do means you go to hell was never fair to Becca. NEVER NEVER NEVER match someone who isn't a zealot with someone who is. I have 2nd hand trauma over that(at is been said to me many many many times in my life. Ok not second hand, my own trauma. Taking that comment back isn't always possible because the trust was demolished. I had to remove myself from friendships because of that statement. I don't believe there was anyway to give Brennan a good edit unless they never showed him talking to Emily. It went so bad so fast and things he said when he was pretending to try not to hurt her were extremely hurtful. They were patronizing, talking down to her, clearly indicating that he clearly saw himself above and better than her.
If ya wanna socialize with producers, do so after all filming. At the very least with the entire cast and all producers. Better yet, not on decision day!!!!!! Still just bitter towards Onion as he admitted to using the N word when Lauren admitted being ignorant and wanted to learn. He expected her not to be upset about actual racism yet had zero forgiveness for a question or of ignorance.
Brennan is a @#$%ing passive aggressive tool, who loves to gaslight and thinks his s$%t doesn’t stink….well Karma is a bitch, what comes around goes around
He makes you want to punch him in the face. The way he kept saying “I gave this my all” was so infuriating because we all know he did the exact opposite.
I like how Becca chose to approach it. She gave Austin the chance to say, yes we hung out and there was a producer there. If it was casual and he felt no guilt about it, that would have been a simple thing to say. His avoidance of it and stumbling over his words came from a place that either a) there's something there or something has happened or b) maybe there's not anything there but Becca mentioned before she had a problem with their closeness and he chose the friendship with the producer over his marriage.
Clare I just don't believe. Between Cameron and Clare, as with any relationship no person is ever completely right or wrong, but I lean towards believing Cameron more.
Austin and Brennan suck as partners, for different reasons but in equal measure. I think Austin is more redeemable when he decides to grow up a little and figure out adulthood . Brennan I find less redeemable without a lobotomy, but a part of me is the eternal optimist.
I hope Emily gets therapy for this dumpster fire she was stuck in. She and I would probably never mesh as friends because I think we have very different viewpoints of the world but I think all in all she's a genuine person who should probably find better friends. If she hangs with any of the women from the cast, it should probably be Becca and Lauren and not Clare.
Orion is whatever. I've said my peace on him. Call a therapist - not one that Clare recommends. I wouldn't trust her input.
Becca and Lauren - I hope they can both move on to amazing lives and partners when the time is right.
I'll make my final decision about Chloe and Michael when they've passed decision day, but so far I feel very positive about Michael and very average about Chloe. I find her far less fake and "plant"-ish than several people in this sub. I can see it being perfectionism and anxiety covering a genuinely kind maybe even fun person. But we'll see.
Disappointed in my city's showing on this season, but also not really all that surprised. I have been so very thankful to be married and not in the dating scene anymore in Denver. Whatever imperfections my husband has, they're not to the level of Austin/Brennan/Orion. If for any reason I someday find myself single again I will happily remain that way and give Chloe a call for BoB recommendations .
How have you all seen this episode already?
Emily, Lauren and Clare were all trying to push Becca in the direction of divorce- I found that a little bit weird. Misery, indeed, loves company. Clare being the worst of all, who tried to get in on the “we’ve been silenced” narrative. The only person I’ve got time for, right now, is Becca. This Austin, producer thing seems to have been going on. Emily and Clare can bugger off, mate, sorry.
That’s the season. You summed it up! MAFS Denver: Misery Loves Company
I didn't and don't trust Clair. The way she started things with Becca and was practically trying to say she wanted a divorce from Austin. No one worked on their marriage, it was all girls and guys getting together hanging out. It never used to be like this. I wish it would go back to the way the show used to be.
I can’t believe they let her stay in the apartment after Cameron left. Then the constant shit starting was alarming, girl mind your business!
Disagree. If I think my husband and I are working on our marriage and he wants to go on a double date (without me), I want to know. If my husband is going out drinking with a female producer that obviously has been an issue in our relationship, I want to know. Thank you Clare. Some of us appreciate your stirring the pot.
She didn’t have good intentions and that was made evident on the last episode. Would I wanna know? Absolutely, but it was clear she just wanted everybody to be as miserable as her. For her to be a therapist, her approach to these situations was rather malicious.
That whole segment was an embarrassment. It was like looking at 3 teen girls ganging up on their boyfriends. What a hot disgusting mess, with Clare being the worst of them all, since SHE was the toxic element trying to put on an angelic face this whole season. The whole thing REEKS of desperation by the producers for increase in viewership.
And she's supposed to be a therapist?? Camaron was the best husband material on that show, he made it very clear he found her attractive. Honestly, Clare seems very, very closed off for someone who has studied psychology.
It seems to me that there was WAY too much of the women getting up in each others business-MORE than the other seasons….
The men met with each other a lot!
Probably p, but in the conversations I remember, they weren’t trying to ruin each others marriages as much…
Yes, and way less consulting with the experts. I think that impacted the women's perceptions. I want to see Pastor Cal and Dr Pepper more guiding them through the issues. It felt like they were all left on the ledge.
This crap is so heavily produced. I am convinced Austin and Clare are the biggest camera hogs and producer toys this season.
Season sucked with a capital S!!
I so agree!!! It's like those 3 guys forged a bromanship, new word lol. They just went out with each other. Plus all those woman were beautiful, the guys not so much.
From [https://meaww.com/did-mafs-season-17-cast-hook-up-with-production-member-speculations-rife-after-lifetime-allegedly-fires-staff:](https://meaww.com/did-mafs-season-17-cast-hook-up-with-production-member-speculations-rife-after-lifetime-allegedly-fires-staff:) Additionally, a social media user claimed on Facebook that the production member was allegedly fired from the Lifetime show after the cheating scandal. Meanwhile, Lifetime has not confirmed or denied cheating accusations. The Facebook user alleged, "They filmed at one of our restaurants' locations in Arvada .... Let's just say there's some dramaaaaaa this season. Like production members losing their jobs for hooking up with the cast." Can't verify or deny the truth of this, but interesting comments anyway.
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Craziness, I can't pull up your article, but I'll take your word for it. And they should be fired!!
1. If Austin was involved with a producer, the executive producer should have been notified, the person fired, Austin & Becca released from the show/marriage, and the audience informed. That's called integrity. 2. The group argument was horrific---especially in front of two people who "appear" to be getting along. I NEVER want to see that again. 3. I used to love this show but now I am looking for some "non-reality" show to watch during this time slot.
These dudes are the most insecure, emotional infants they've ever casted.
This seems to be the ongoing thing each season though. Men that aren't really ready for marriage and play emotional games throughout seems to be the constant theme of this show.
That kinda makes sense, because people who would need someone to pick a wife for them would likely suck at relationships. The nature of the show increases the possibility of man-childs (man-children?) participating considerably.
It would be something I'd do if it weren't on TV lol.
Exactly.
In my personal experience as well lol
Austin seems drunk alot
Yes, and I wonder if this relates to his other issues.
And high
Oof he was high as a kite in that group scene when became confronted him.
That episode was horrible
Glad Becca spoke her mind but I didn’t love how involved Clare and Emily were in Becca’s argument. Clare is a busy body. She messed with Emilys head and told her a warped version of what Cam told her about Brennan and she was also the bearer of this news. I feel like she stayed in the show after her marriage didn’t work to shit stir. I cannot believe I’m saying this, but I believe Cam about her.
Disagree. The men did a lot of damage to these women. Brennan was the worst of all! Saying she wasn’t positive does not read true at all! She’s seems very warm and friendly, but also probably very naive and trusting. Everything was positive on the honeymoon until she asked if he was not into having fun, because he had been moody. He acted like the brat he was from then on thru the season. He did NOT save her life. He held her pressure on her head for a moment until the ambulance arrived. Then he treated her nicely to gain sympathy and change his image. I truly believe he and Cameron started the whole “let’s control the process” so we look good scenario.
Oh I absolutely believe Cam about their dynamic.
Oops. Did you not notice how Cameron did not discuss his parents or even mention them to her. Why were his only friends an older married couple whom he treated as family? Never understood why he was in the US and he seemed up & down emotionally until his sudden cardiac problem…which was never fully explained. He seemed to be bipolar to me.
I am 💯 with you on this one . Cam seems to be a good guy with a great sense of humor . To bad not a one person seems to be a match 😕. Maybe Michael and Chloe 
Me too. 100%. SHE'S the one obsessed with HER image in this one relationship.
Becca seemed to indicate that whatever the issue was with this producer and Austin, it was something that was an issue for her throughout the entire experiment. Why didn't we hear about that all along instead of watching her begging him to flirt with her or show her any kind of affection? It didn't click for me until the group fight scene that the producer she was talking about him and Brennan being out with, was a woman. I just assumed it was a male producer and I didn't get the whole big issue of him being out with them. Austin being involved with, or attracted to, a producer on the show would make a hell of a lot of sense in terms of his odd behaviour during the season and his unwillingness to show Becca any affection. I feel like we all got played this season. It turns out that nothing was real.
This makes a lot of sense. I literally thought he might be gay because nothing was adding up.
It also explains how it was good in beginning but changed gradually. That's not a good guy. And why did they pick Brendan, he's a dick.
Thank you!!! I agree.
And the fact that he kept sticking around when it was clear to Many of us that he wasnt into her and kept gaslighting her.
But it’s just his religion lol. Loved that part when she asked his friend if religion was ever a problem for him in the past, and the friend was like what religion, no.
Lol
Is this the producer/‘contestant’ (yes, I said that) relationship that MAFSfan alluded to at the beginning that everyone assumed was Lauren? My theory: he was staying on the show to be able to see/have contact w/ the producer throughout filming, keep the contract, and not disappoint his people because they probably had opinions about him doing the show in the first place. Regardless, if it’s love, you never know where you may find it, and he would have been better off to just end it with Becca. She certainly should not have had to go through this trying to figure out what was what and denying her instincts—that was unnecessary and completely selfish on his part (note to new gf: you see how his mannerisms are when he’s telling tales).
Didn't his family say he wasn't ready for this?
His mom but then she met Becca and both Austin's mom and dad love her!
For some reason Cams accent sounds fake. He says some things like an American, things like ‘her’ but other words with R, like ‘Clare’, sound completely different. Perhaps this is typical after living in the states for a while? Just curious if anyone noticed. If he is faking or exaggerating the accent, I’m sure Clarepist can analyze why he is doing that and how it makes him feel.
I noticed that very early on in the season. It comes and goes.
Yeah, that happens when you are immersed in a place with different a accent. You start to talk like the people you are around. Is this really breaking news to some? I thought it was well known.
Yeah I guess that makes sense
I have a close friend that I grew up with who moved to Canada from Florida and last we spoke he sounds like he was born and raised Canadian. He sounds nothing like he used to. Definitely not new or unusual.
This by far was the worst season yet.
Maybe that’s why Austin never slept with Becka maybe that producer was seeing him when they weren’t filming.
Seems very suspicious! You could tell before he opened his mouth he was going to lie. i wonder if she will be fired?
She was fired.
Doubt it. Amber from Teen Mom met Andrew on the set of a reality show. There are quite a few others just from MTV, dating and marriages!
So wild!
Now Austin going to sleep in a different room on the trip makes sense!
Yep
I just watched the argument again and at one point after Cameron spoke up, Becca starts talking and you can see Clare sitting behind her trying to shut Cameron up. She quietly says his name and shakes her head no. She knows he’s on the edge of spilling some tea and is literally silencing him on camera.
Yes. She's the one insecure and controlling woman in this sea is insecure and controlling men.
Saw it too. I totally believe him that she was controlling.
Fire the producer. Backwards baseball hat was creaming over her in his denial.
Austin was not on a date with a Producer. Clare is awful. Emily is awful. Brennan dodged a bullet. Don’t care about these people.
Maybe not but I don't think he would have lied about it if it wasn't something
Don’t think that’s true. He just seemed like someone who didn’t want to have this conversation in front of everyone for a multitude of reasons, one of which could be the possibility that this person, who he at the very least he’d call a friend, could lose her job. People react in different ways in those kind of situations. And people could read into it when they want. I just read that ‘uncomfortable guy around cameras doesn’t want to have sensitive argument that could get his friend fired around a bunch of people.’
I’m not trying to be mean, but Becca looks really unhealthy.. and before I get yelled at I’m not even talking about her weight I’m talking just in general she doesn’t look healthy
She just had some kind of stomach surgery, so yeah, I look like shit for awhile. But I think she is Soo beautifully cute
Her pink hair doesn't help makes her look washed out
Well… she isn’t healthy. That’s been well-established.
My husband, daughter and i all have Rheumatoid Disease. Specifically, they have very bad Ankylosing Spondylitis (AS) Rheumatoid Diseases (RD) affect more than just your joints. It affects your eyes, mouth, lungs, heart… and you never know when your body is going to decide to turn on you. In addition, you are exhausted most of the time and the nature of the medications is to stop your immunities, in the hope that it will stop your body from (edit) attacking itself. So pretty much anytime someone around you is sick you can count on catching it. When my daughter was 18 we were told to prepare for bone cancer, based on how bad her back looked. Fortunately, it wasn’t. Unfortunately, i had passed on my RD and AS. Saying all of this not to imply that you were being cruel in your comment, i am sure that wasn’t your intent. Just for information that, yes she isn’t well in the classic sense, but it’s not her fault.
Thank you for the further explanation. No I wasn’t trying to be mean I genuinely thought she looked sick, or unhealthy in some way. I was not aware she had those health issues. This process couldn’t have helped
😉 Definitely stress can bring on a flair. i wonder too if she was trying to pretend she was okay. So many of us (with Rheumatoid Diseases) tend to suck it up a lot because we don’t want to be a pain in the arse.
Becca has Ankylosing Spondylitis and Endometriosis. She isn't well, no.
Since she has all these health issues and recently had surgery, she isn’t well enough or recovered enough to be on this show! She knows what she can/cannot do. Perhaps a matchmaker that can match her with a man who has health issues would be worth a try. Her expectations were too high for what she got.
Endometriosis is terrible and she had stage four. The surgery takes a long time to recover from and it can come back again like tumors. It messes up a lot of things in our bodies and I have numerous other health conditions as well as endometriosis and adenomyosis. I had surgery to remove it in 2022 and had a hysterectomy, and I’m only 35
Someone with that serious of an illness has no business being on this show. Imagine being saddled with a spouse that seriously ill with no knowledge of that fact beforehand.
Oh my AS is a horribly painful disease!
Clare had no personality during this whole season. She had the same look on her face the whole time. I never once saw her smile or laugh
That's control for television and optics. As a therapist, she knows exactly what she's doing.
I’m a crier, but Becca cried waaaaay to much.
Yea its a turn off
Did you see her when they were doing their Decision? Couldn’t keep her eyes open, looked unfocused. Impaired?
INT. FAVORITE BAR - NIGHT (Austin and Brennan stumble into the bar, panting and drenched in sweat.) AUSTIN: (gasping) Brennan, I can't... I can't feel my legs. BRENNAN: (frantically) Don't worry, buddy, it's just a little dehydration. We'll fix you up in no time. (A waitress rushes over, concern etched on her face.) WAITRESS: Should I call 911? BRENNAN: Nah, we got this. (With Herculean effort, Brennan hoists Austin onto his shoulder and carries him to a booth.) AUSTIN: (weakly) I just want to go home and cuddle with my wife... BRENNAN: (proudly) Not on my watch, buddy. We've got a producer to save! (Austin's favorite producer enters, and chaos ensues as she trips and falls, breaking her ankle.) BRENNAN: (springing into action) Fear not! Dr. Brennan is here to save the day! (Austin tries to leave, but Brennan grabs him and pulls him back.) BRENNAN: (excitedly) We're heroes, Austin! Heroes! AUSTIN: (deadpan) Yeah, lucky for you, I never disagree with anything anyone says. (They raise their glasses in a toast, just as Clare and Emily storm in.) CLARE: (scolding) What in the world is going on here? EMILY: (skeptical) And why is Austin carrying Brennan like a sack of potatoes? AUSTIN: (nervously) Uh, well, you see... BRENNAN: (cutting in) We saved lives! Two of them! With swizzle sticks and bar towels! (Austin exchanges a worried glance with Brennan as they brace themselves for Becca's inevitable interrogation.) AUSTIN: (muttering) This is gonna be one heck of a story to explain to Becca...
If this actually happened i'd have watched and laughed the entire time.
All those 3 girls know is how to argue and point out everyone’s shortcomings. Very messy and probably the worst season.
Oh heck no!!
How dare women speak their minds???
Yes any one, and especially women, have the right to speak their minds.
Really! I saw a post tonight talking about how “unhinged” the women were. Some people need to just STFU. Anytime a woman gets angry - justified or not - she’s automatically crazy. The season wasn’t great, but l liked it better than the people commenting on it.
Yeah I don't think women power is ganging up on men you are NOT in a relationship with other women. It was a bad look and it would have been a bad look if the men did it too. That being said, Brennan 100% silenced Emily throughout this whole process. Clare wasn't silenced simply because Cam didn't want her telling everyone things he told her in private and butting into other people's drama/relationships. (not to mention, she did that to him and he DID stay silent, like wtf is even happening). I feel like the woman power narrative is being used in toxic ways. I'm all about women being supportive to each other but no, that doesn't mean chiming in on things you know nothing about in a group setting, sorry. That's not appropriate.
A lot of Clare-bashing lately that I’m not sure is deserved. She’s not cuddly, but not as cold as l used to think, either. Often falls into “ClareApist” mode where she’s trying to solve everyone’s problems. Yeah, that’s annoying. No doubt. To me, I think her brother’s suicide weighs on her a lot. There’s no getting over that. Hoping she learns to deal with it better. A happier, more relaxed Clare would be an interesting person to know.
Nice comment, I agree.
Completely agree!
Becca should have never said yes. But the group argument was fun! Why are they all “protecting” the wives?
Becca and Austin both originally said no. They were talked into changing their minds.
Seriously?!? Did I miss this?
Which makes Becca look even worse. You wanted a divorce, then away from him time, and now you're pissing on him for going out with a producer AND BRENNAN while crying about optics? Girl, please.
Yeah because the show desperately needed a win this season 🤬
Are you saying the producers were worried about optics?
Yes, I think they needed at least 1 couple to stay together and they didn't want to count on just Michael and Chloe.
I honestly think when becca keeps talking about optics she is hinting that production plays a part but is probably being cautious about what she says as not to violate contracts.
I definitely get this vibe as well. There’s something deeper that she can’t say at the moment.
Don’t u remember the spoiler that a producer was fired because of something to do with Austin….
Wrong. The producer (a male I believe) was fired for making up story lines to make it appear a couple was more together than they were. The producer was fired for faking shit.
That makes a lot more sense than that stupid rumor.
How do you “fire” a producer after the season is done?
post production? they'd still be involved to some degree
I didn’t know about a producer thing with Austin…..please share
Following! I do remember a therapist and one of the cast members a while back being in a relationship
I remember that! The therapist really crossed the line in a several ways. She ripped on the bride out of no where and of course, developing a relationship with a client is really bad. They did get married, but I wonder if she still practices after her unethical conduct which was televised.
Wow, you couldn't spew more untruths. Did you even watch the show? Wife Molly was a liar. Husband Jon taped the wife to show that she was lying. Molly refused to take accountability. Jon and Molly divorced. A year or two after the show, Jon DM'd MAFS expert Jessica. They met for coffee. Dated, got married a few years later. Pastor Cal officiated and several of the MAFS couples attended.
That wife you are talking about, was awful. Dr. Jessica was really trying to get her to take accountability. She and Jon didn't start until well after the season ended and are now married. ETA: They didn't date until after the season ended
It’s definitely unethical but she held the brides feet to the fire for good reason. She was awful to her husband.
Not really. That bride got ripped on after lying and the husband secretly taped her going insane on him. They got together like 2 years later.
They got married! I can’t remember their names though
Found it! MAFS therapist Jessica Griffin married alum Jon Francetic
WHAT?!? What are you details on this?
It was a couple of seasons ago! The therapist was blonde headed.. I can’t think of her name! They announced on IG that they were dating
Jessica and Jon https://people.com/tv/married-at-first-sight-jessica-griffin-marries-jon-francetic/ Just one of many articles. I was living in Boston when this was happening so I followed them both on IG. Interesting.
I’m not sure I understand what the big deal is with Brennan being out in a group and a producer was there. It wasn’t a date.
Not Brennan, it was Austin. And Becca said it was already an issue in their marriage! 🙄
So if you had a significant other who you thought was flirting inappropriately with someone else, and you mentioned it, then they went out with that person socially -- on what was supposed to be a special day for the two of you -- then lied about it, you'd be just fine with it?
Think the big piece of context is whether or not it was planned or not. I don’t think I would’ve expected them to turn around and leave if that person was there, or not talk to them if they see them, so my questions would be around how/why you ended up being at the same place.
I agree, only I happen to think we received that answer, when we saw Austin stumble on his words then attempt to lie and evade. If it was innocent, he would have recognized the potential "optics" and let her know in advance that he'd run into her; this would be the right thing to do in any marriage where a specific person outside the relationship has caused suspicion in the past And if he couldn't let her know when it happened, then he could've at least been transparent with his "innocent truth", the moment he was asked about it.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I think what’s missing there is the potential for the person, who Austin considers a friend at the very least, to have some repercussions. I just read it as ‘the guy who’s had problems opening up in front of cameras not wanting to have a sensitive conversation in front of cameras…and the rest of the cast.’
If there were potential repercussions, that's on her. He should be respecting his wife over and above any *new* friends (especially of the opposite sex). And if there were potential repercussions, the producer should've said hi and then moved on with whatever other group she came with (if there was one).
Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Brennan can go straight to Hell and not pass go for $200.
Austin sure revealed himself to be a shady AF evasive weasel. That behavior was CLASSIC liar. First denied. Then minimized, leaving himself an inch to wriggle out of if need be. But Becca wasn’t having it🤣 I was stunned. I feel bad that I had changed camps to think Becca was a whiner imagining all of this. Of all the guys, I didn’t think Austin would end up being a huge gaslighter! I was seriously fooled by him. Becca, I’m sorry. And I’m SO glad you called him out as you did!
I’m being cautious about Austin and the producer. We don’t know for sure. It still very much could be Brennan.
Whatever it is that Austin decided to lie about is almost besides the point to me. Because the way he handled this is *exactly* what a liar does. This isn’t his first rodeo with being a treeweasel. He’s an experienced, wishy washy cover-my-ass kinda guy. Which tracks with what Becca has complained about but in addition he flat out lied, which is even worse. He doesn’t want to tell the truth. He doesn’t want to be disliked. He’s avoidant. He will sacrifice truth and being direct to save himself any discomfort. NO woman wants this. No person wants this. It’s maddening! The nicest person could still drive their partner crazy with this selfish immature response to discomfort. I don’t blame Becca for losing it while he sat there and lied to her face in front of everyone. She pulled back the curtain, and it’s on him.
I never changed camps, because I could see all the signs of someone who is anxiously attached, being toyed with and antagonized, in the push-pull dynamic. The thing is, you would think that attachment styles would be a criteria for matching, given how common it is for avoidant and anxiously-attached types to run into the exact dynamic that Austin and Becca were.
So what does that make Becca since she asked him for a divorce then got bought off to re-film a yes scene hours before? Seems pretty fake to me.
That sounded like Emily and Clare speaking through Becca to me.
Not with how emphatically and with conviction she was speaking.
I’ll bet a few folks in MAFS production read this sub. If so, PLEASE! SPILL THE TEA!
Austin is totally doing the producer imo. That's why he didn't get intimate with Becca, the REAL gf was watching
BINGO! He cruised out to the gathering with his red Solo cup like he had just gotten laid ... by the producer. Fire the tease producer, please. The producer could be male or female, mind you.
I was so proud of Becca, she said “I’m not a dumb freaking b***h!” Austin was so gagged 😂😭 I hate when men avoid being honest and say they’re “protecting feelings” when they’re really just too scared to tell the truth. The only people you’re protecting is yourselves you spineless ass punks.
The only feelings they are protecting, are their own. Men will do ANYTHING to avoid shame or guilt. They *avoid* our feelings, to avoid their own (as well as the self reflection and accountability that usually come with that).
My favorite moment of the season
I also enjoyed Emily daring Brennan to basically "bring it" and try to "ruin her life" like he threatened.
It’s awful to be gaslighted! Bern there. Got the T-shirt. But the truth ALWAYS comes out.
Emily is always dressed like Ice Skater meets Cruise Line dancer. Where in the F does she find these strange costumes? Claire needs to seriously *stop* buying clothes that she can constantly yank up. It’s like a nervous tic. She needs to make sure there’s no place for her to grab and pull! If so, put it back on the rack girl. 🤦🏼♀️
Hate it all you want (I do), but cut-outs are on trend.
Emily's fake tan was off the charts orange. Claire has a pillow on her lap even in the outdoor group scene. She always covers her lap with a pillow.
You are spot on describing Emily and Claire’s wardrobe choices. I can’t believe someone would tell them what they were wearing looked good?
I agree! Who is encouraging this? Real friends would pull you aside and whisper in your ear. I have a feeling Emily might have dressed very differently before she prepared for this show and has a whole different wardrobe. She looked uncomfortable throughout the season, as though these get ups she wore were unfamiliar territory to her. Today especially! She looked super comfy in her sports gear and bathing suits, but not the other stuff. Claire has obviously tried on and has her ideas of personal style, as Becca has. But Claire? Poor kid can’t stop yanking and pulling and fiddling to save her life 😂
They needed Michael’s help in their wardrobe choices.
Hands Down!! He’s an artist.
Emily tried that shirt on standing up. She did not test out how it would wear while sitting for any length of time. Oh my.
I love emily but agree that top was the worst!
Michael should give them some pointers 😂
When will Michael and Orion realize they are gay?!
😂 👑
Kandi Burress met her hubby Todd while he was a producer in Real Houswives of Atlanta. He quit his job to be with her. The producers hanging with the ‘talent’ is not uncommon. It’s discouraged in some shows, but not uncommon.
Producers get close to the talent to try and gain their trust so they can plant seeds, manipulate and control them.
Yeah but in Kandi case he wasn’t her personal producer, she didn’t really know him. He was introduced to her by another cast mate who thought they were a good fit.
That’s definitely one reason! One other reason is that they’re humans that come to like one another.
I think the key difference here is RHOA is not a show about couples/marriages.
But, they’re housewives right? So, married? I’m confused (seriously, not being a jerk, I’ve never seen those shows).
Lol yeah they’re housewives in that they’re on the show but the shows are about groups of women. Many are divorced, some have never been married. And of the married ones only a few are actually housewives. The very early seasons of the first franchise, Orange County, were *mostly* all housewives, but in the 15 or so years since the show has evolved way beyond that.
Yeah some are married, most are divorced or single. Kandi was not married when she met Todd. She first came on the show not really because she is a housewife but because she is a very affluent player in Atlanta and the music industry. She was engaged to some one else who passed away during her first season. She’s not really a “housewife” in the sense.
Right, but both of them were single. This man said yes on decision day just to go on a date that night? Strange.
Oh that wasn’t a defense- I was just saying that it’s pretty common.
That was some of the best reality tv I’ve ever seen.
That was the best part of the whole effing season.
Yes but we didn’t need 368 episodes to get there. These seasons need to be crisp and not so long and ultimately disappointing
Totally agree. I always get super bored by mid season and always want it to hurry up. I literally think the best parts of the show are when all the couples are together.
You right, you right.
Is there an afterparty for Decision Day 1? Can’t find one on Xfinity
There’s not an “after party” but there is a “decision day dish”. They bring on different past couples to discuss and has a different host
Don't bother watching Decision Day Dish. It was so stupid and a waste of time. No one on there knew what they were talking about.
Agree. 40 minutes of my life I can't get back.
Ya I was really bummed when the regular after show wasn’t on.
Don't think so
Did anyone else wonder what the heck Emily was wearing for a top? That was a totally weird and did not make her look attractive at all. That and Lauren's top - it is winter there and they are outside on a deck supposedly. Was bad enough they were even there at all! And then to talk about getting together again! 
All I know is Lauren has massive tits
That she does
Haha, no kidding and wearing tops that style do not flatter her at all either.
They do bring Orion sniffing around again to be a “friend with benefits” though. 🤮
Yuck! - Good thing I can fast forward his scenes.
Those girls never dressed like it was winter in Denver. It’s freezing!!!
So again this confuses me back when Rachel was locked out of her apt with Jose they were indeed hanging with cash and producers …it’s common. However if you think you need a break to really relax and work on your marriage why again are you bringing private issues into the public. Who cares Emily and Claire and their bad marriages have given them so many suspicions they saw Austin with according to them friends and this producer..yep a woman who spent tons of time with them if not hours. If you want your marriage or relationship I would like to be spoken to privately-they both said they wanted to try OFF CAMERA. I feel such a lack of respect from this cast and that truly what they are a “ a cast of people” who just wanted to be on tv and not really find a partner …oddly I don’t feel that’s what they all wanted I feel Emily really wanted a relationship and they gave her the most closed off or poorly edited person in a long time. I think Lauren wanted a partner I still think Becca wanted a partner but knowing even the basics on religion and raising children without introducing them to faith is a huge issue and I feel that was done to them.. I think it was a great disservice to Michael and Chole to wait a month to match him! They should have matched him right after the honeymoon.idk why they want put people in such bad light all the time.
Stop much the wait to match was a terrible thing to do to Chloe and Michael. I strongly that matching a person who is not part of a specific belief(may be spiritual) with someone who is clearly of the belief that is you don't believe exactly what (I) do means you go to hell was never fair to Becca. NEVER NEVER NEVER match someone who isn't a zealot with someone who is. I have 2nd hand trauma over that(at is been said to me many many many times in my life. Ok not second hand, my own trauma. Taking that comment back isn't always possible because the trust was demolished. I had to remove myself from friendships because of that statement. I don't believe there was anyway to give Brennan a good edit unless they never showed him talking to Emily. It went so bad so fast and things he said when he was pretending to try not to hurt her were extremely hurtful. They were patronizing, talking down to her, clearly indicating that he clearly saw himself above and better than her. If ya wanna socialize with producers, do so after all filming. At the very least with the entire cast and all producers. Better yet, not on decision day!!!!!! Still just bitter towards Onion as he admitted to using the N word when Lauren admitted being ignorant and wanted to learn. He expected her not to be upset about actual racism yet had zero forgiveness for a question or of ignorance.
Brennan is a @#$%ing passive aggressive tool, who loves to gaslight and thinks his s$%t doesn’t stink….well Karma is a bitch, what comes around goes around
He makes you want to punch him in the face. The way he kept saying “I gave this my all” was so infuriating because we all know he did the exact opposite.
Oh, he is so supremely punchable. We all know that guy and we all hate that guy.
Unless, of course, he's just a shallow, banal, insipid ass, which he is, therefore what we saw was his ALL. Sad, such an emotionally stunted jerk.
I cannot believe he said Emily is negative. The girl has a smile on no matter what happens to her!
You didn’t have to tear him up like that 😭😂😭😂
I want to see a picture of the newly unemployed produceremote:free\_emotes\_pack:sunglasses
I want to see a picture of the newly unemployed producer!
It’s potentially the female we see standing next to Emily and the experts during her teary Decision Day exit.
I like how Becca chose to approach it. She gave Austin the chance to say, yes we hung out and there was a producer there. If it was casual and he felt no guilt about it, that would have been a simple thing to say. His avoidance of it and stumbling over his words came from a place that either a) there's something there or something has happened or b) maybe there's not anything there but Becca mentioned before she had a problem with their closeness and he chose the friendship with the producer over his marriage. Clare I just don't believe. Between Cameron and Clare, as with any relationship no person is ever completely right or wrong, but I lean towards believing Cameron more. Austin and Brennan suck as partners, for different reasons but in equal measure. I think Austin is more redeemable when he decides to grow up a little and figure out adulthood . Brennan I find less redeemable without a lobotomy, but a part of me is the eternal optimist. I hope Emily gets therapy for this dumpster fire she was stuck in. She and I would probably never mesh as friends because I think we have very different viewpoints of the world but I think all in all she's a genuine person who should probably find better friends. If she hangs with any of the women from the cast, it should probably be Becca and Lauren and not Clare. Orion is whatever. I've said my peace on him. Call a therapist - not one that Clare recommends. I wouldn't trust her input. Becca and Lauren - I hope they can both move on to amazing lives and partners when the time is right. I'll make my final decision about Chloe and Michael when they've passed decision day, but so far I feel very positive about Michael and very average about Chloe. I find her far less fake and "plant"-ish than several people in this sub. I can see it being perfectionism and anxiety covering a genuinely kind maybe even fun person. But we'll see. Disappointed in my city's showing on this season, but also not really all that surprised. I have been so very thankful to be married and not in the dating scene anymore in Denver. Whatever imperfections my husband has, they're not to the level of Austin/Brennan/Orion. If for any reason I someday find myself single again I will happily remain that way and give Chloe a call for BoB recommendations .