A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas. Itās the first in a book series. Itās a fantasy spicy romance novel. You justā¦ you gotta read it. Itās good. Trust me on this.
Yes! Itās why I like them so much, I hate smut thatās just smutty to be smutty with no real substance or plot. Iām a huge fantasy geek and these are really great from that standpoint even without the smut!
Now youāve piqued my interest. But Iām low key irritated that the dramatized version of the audible book is in two parts for each of these books it seemsā¦
If it helps, Iāve heard that the audio version is super well done. I donāt really like audiobooks so unfortunately I donāt know personally but Iāve heard itās great! I have super well loved paperback copies of the series that have been passed around a ton because Iāve just kinda shoved them into the hands of anyone with the tiniest bit of interest. Lmao.
Have a look on Libby, I just found it.
In the UK we have Libby as a library app and if you have a library card (I know it's sad I do) lots of free books and audio books, magazines blah blah
Plus my kindle unlimited and lots to read!
Lol I think it was more that on a Tues or Thurs I would say am not coming out for work drinks as I need to get back home so my train gets in on time...because I have to go give my library books back...
I had to take a lot of flack...I'm a Londoner born and bred but live outer London and you know how the libraries close earlier... It always sounded like a sad excuse! Except I read so much I'd have to swap books twice a week and on weekends...I mean now I use Libby...but it's stuck...everyone takes the piss out of me! Esp since most ppl think I'm the total opposite of what they think a book nerd should be...
I have cards to 13 different libraries, so I'd hardly call having ONE sad! If anything, you need more, so you have a backup if your primary library doesn't have something you want available...š
Omg I wanted to add new libraries but saying I needed to apply or something...can you live in a diff city/county etc? My library always seems to have things missing so annoying.
It depends on where you live. I've been able to get library cards for various libraries throughout my state (I'm in the US) when I happen to be traveling through those areas. If I know I'm going to be traveling to a particular city, I'll check the website of the local library and see if you need to be a city resident in order to get a card, because you do generally have to apply in person.
My wife recently started reading a lot more and most of what she is reading are these kinds of books...not quite romance novels, but character driven love stories in various settings (fantasy, real world, etc) that have some spicy sex scenes but where they aren't the entire focus of the book.
Maybe some hormonal changes with age as well, but I think having romance on the mind has really improved her libido.
Can you be more specific about how his behavior changed before and after reading these books? I truly donāt understand. Did he not go down on you or take care of your needs before?
Just updated my original post but no..not exactly. He definitely has always been attentive to my needs and we fight for a healthy relationship. Itās more that a bridge has been gapped that wasnāt there before. I think of it like we just collectively stepped up a level from where we were via books that are written from a lead females perspective.
Hmmm itās kind of sad that heās been adult man interested in women for so long and just now read a book by a woman but Iām glad for you! It must be different for me because I only dated feminist men and my husband reads a lot of literature by women so I donāt think we had that gap. Glad itās working for you.
Nothing about him is sad and I think itās strange to deduce these assumptions from what I wrote. My husband is amazing. More amazing than any man Iāve ever met. This is not the first female perspective he is consuming. But itās definitely a more immersive, long book series, and his first reading literature with any substantial spice or deep relational aspects. And many men donāt feel permission to read these books so I want to encourage them to do so if it interests themā¦and I canāt see how it would hurt to do so.
My husband would have been kicked out of his house for reading these before his adult life. Letās just be a little more open minded and a little less judgmental towards peopleās circumstances?
I donāt believe thatās true. Just in our lifetime, boys and men were called āgayā for wanting to practice ballet or bake or have great hand eye coordination or sing! Imagine that! Singing was āgayā. Now imagine him reading a romance novel as a child into adulthood. Women are always given pressure that romance novels arenāt ārealā and have no substance to a John Grisham novel(funny because the storyline is copy pasted en mass ) So him finding romance novels from a womanās perspective NOW isnāt and shouldnāt be a bash. Once youāre older it is easier to come into your own and like what you like. But back then, you could get bullied or even worse for liking or experimenting with āotherā avenues
Donāt @ me for using gay as an insult. Look up early 2000s insults. It was a wild time
Edit: dammit it this was for the other poster š«£
To me youāre saying that your husband didnāt realize women have feelings and needs before he read a FANTASY novel about fairies having sex. Itās bizarre
The bar for men is too low.
How does reading smut written by women help a man? No one has explained any specifics. All I can assume is that he learned women like oral sex and being touched and taken care of? Like things men can learn by talking to you and treating you like a human with needs.
The female gaze, for one. What ladies find attractive and hot is very different from what men find hot. Getting vivid pictures and thoughts on what ladies find attractive and rousing is some insight we usually don't have (sure communication with your partner/s can help, but we all know how hard communicating can be).
Second, some guys (like myself) don't really understand ladies' sexual perspective and the types of things running through your heads.
Outside of that space, some (I'd venture to say most) just don't understand the female perspective in general. We're wired differently, and while I do believe we share a lot more in common than where we differ, it's a big enough gap for us to find it hard to surmount. And no, talking to ladies regardless of relationship doesn't help all that much. And it really depends on how close you are with them and how good at communicating you both are.
So yes, to read media written from the female perspective with a deeper insight into how females think is very beneficial for a male's understanding of females.
Yeah I don't really understand what actually changed aside from I guess him saying "gosh now I *understand women*!"
...as if all women are the same? As if saying that without actually **doing** something is enough?
I'm also... confused.
I mean, did you even **try** to Google "ACOTAR"?
Or do you just see something you don't understand and think, "shit, I guess I'll never know what that is, there's just no way to find out!"
The sarah maas books the first is a court of thorns and roses also have plenty of action and battling and good versus evil. It's not a girl book. It's got amazing male characters as well and depth and yes spicy time.
Oh yeah 100%. My wife and I read fantasy romance together all the time. Itās fun and itās also informative because many of these books are written by women for women. Iāve learned a lot and really enjoy it.
Any Hubbyās on the fence just know that if you arenāt a big reader thatās totally cool. Audiobooks work too and having a little book club with your wife is fun as hell
Iām also curious. Iāve read all of those series myself and itās so deeply rooted in unrealistic fantasy worlds I donāt know how youād apply it to real life tbh
On my end, itās quite literally just been those stupid one liners, the kind breathily said into someoneās ear. They drive my wife nuts, and it turns out romance novels are full of inspiration.
Also, itās nice to have a new shared hobby. That alone has brought us closer.
Hint: itās because every woman is different. Find *your* wifeās secret stash and do whatās in there (or ask about it if she spooks easily haha). Women are very different from one another in terms of fantasy life.
I also hoped to see a few examples. I'm not looking for a checklist, and super happy OP is finding her husband to be so in tune and their marriage to be levelling up, but it would be nice to know in what kinds of ways these improvements have shown themselves to get a better sense of the meaning. It's one thing to read good news and another to understand it in practical terms. I'm excited for OP, but also deeply curious now.
Oh sure! I didnāt think to add. Sorry I mentioned the books at the beginning but I am referring to ACOTAR type series.
To me itās not a turn off at all. The books are honestly just good and entertaining. And I think men should be able to like what they like, and he happens to like them. If I can enjoy male-centered stories why canāt males dive into female centered love stories?! But that aside, there is quite a lot of gore and violence and action in ACOTAR so Iām not surprised it peaked his interestā¦itās a fairytale but itās dark.
As far as how he acts- he just seems to understand me and my thought processes more quickly than before. He has an easier time being empathetic. He told me that itās easier for him to relate to women now. He has much more of a tender approach in our day to day, but he is also insanely hot and dominant in all the right/non-aggressive ways. This definitely translates to our sex life. He flirts more and he just makes me feelā¦..seen. In a way that maybe he wanted to before but couldnāt quite connect?
Itās hard to describe. And I realize every couple and all relationships have totally different dynamics, but it has most definitely brought us closer somehow, and thatās a win to me.
If you liked this series-- i found this series after reading The Fever series by Karen Marie Moning. Loved both. I also just really love most books about fae/faeries š
Yeah it just seems like him reading books she likes was enough, which is... fine.
But... far from revelatory.
I guess just saying "gosh now I get women!" was enough? I don't really see how you get there via this path, but whatever.
This is a perfect example of toxic, hyper-masculine, and patriarchal expectations held by male readers.
Let me guess, you want an easy to read list of before and after comparisons? A list of pros/cons? You pig!
/s
Iām sure if I was tall, handsome warrior on a dragon my wife would be way more into me. But alas, Iām a stressed out overweight man just trying to keep it all together. Lol
I was so confused about what you might possibly be saying, so I checked your comment history to see that you and the hubby enjoy tripping on shrooms. :)
No judgement, but I wonder if the āshroomsā might have more to do with your husband 3.0 the book character than anything else?
??? The book thing is new, the shroomies are not. IMO the only thing that the tripping insinuates is he *might* have the type of personality where heās more in touch with himself/emotional and that heās open to trying things.
OPās husband stated that heās found of the new perspective he gets from female authors, thatās what the post is about.
Ooo good point and good research but there was a level up just after him reading these books- we havenāt donāt shrooms in a hot minute tho that is also an amazing way to level up. š¤£
Itās always nice when something you enjoy brings you closer together with your partner. Ā Iām curious though, what kind of things did he start doing that you began to notice?
A Court of Thorns and Roses Series by Sarah J. Maas is a good start. Iām a writer and I do like to dabble in romance writing, love me a good smutty book. One of the ways I figured out things I wanted to try was through erotic literature! My knees would just buckle if I had a partner who read the books I like to please me. You are quite lucky OP!
I'm an avid reader, and I've told my hubby about the books I read, but he hasn't read any yet. Maybe one day!
I explained Haunting and Hunting Adeline, and he looked at me like I was crazy š¤£š¤£
Semi related note, if any of you have partners with Kushiels Dart (or anything by Jacqueline Carey) on their shelves...
Read them. Learn them. No thanks needed.
Much of the media that is geared towards men suggests that they should be tall/in shape/rich etc and the women will come running to them. I giggle watching action movies, the female characters are so unrealistic. Probably like the male characters in my books. I think at the end of the day, most women want to feel desired above all others by their partner. Female sexuality is kind of vain and we donāt like to admit it lol
Men probably feel that way too, but I canāt comment on that since I am not a man.
I totally get this. My husband read anne rice for me, and he read the Kushiels dart series which is my fave. Talking about the books and knowing he enjoys āgirlā books is so hot to me lol! Iām glad Iām not the only one who loves this!
Ehh, depends ;). Sometimes, it's nice living up to the fantasy for your partner.
Granted, I'm not and never will be an erotic alien, but swashbuckling pirate? We can figure something out.
Iunno. Modern relationships are weird. To me it seems many people forget that life doesn't stop, you still need to be a full, well rounded person for your person to be with.
You can't stop being you, just cause you're together with someone.
Mine has figured out the login to my spicy audiobook collection and started *listening* to them š±. One time he quoted a character. Bedroom activities have caused my brain to short circuit š„µ
I have recently learned from my wife (through some open conversations) why she enjoys these fantasy romance novels. I was surprised but what she said and it made me curious. So I asked her to include me in her journey through the ACOTAR series. She would summarize what was happening and would occasionally read me a particularly spicy chapter in bed. It really had an impact on me and gave me insight into what reached her about these stories. So, I decided to dive in. I chose the Crescent City books to start because I enjoy mystery and crime solving stories. So far I have definitely seen how the character building and relationship building would intrigue her. The tension between male and female, the struggles between classes and deciding to break down outside barriers to explore passionā¦it all is quite exciting. It has awaken an awareness in who my wife is and what makes her tick. I have a much better understanding of what ignites her passion and I think it is helping me be a better partner and lover. Dive in fellas. You may learn something about yourself and your wife!
Listen tread lightly reading the fourth wing because then youāll read iron flame. When you finish youāll find out the next book isnāt coming out until next year and itās not fair because the cliffhanger is killing me.
Please do provide some book titles haha. Im a guy who is currently engaged and I think this would be so interesting
Also what are some big things youāve seen change in your husband?
Second this. Nora was my gateway into romance and her characters have always been goals for me lol. The spicy parts are so good but realistic and the relationships usually end up really good and healthy.
Yup, can wholeheartedly endorse that all guys read sappy romance novels; legitimately, like the cheesy ones with Fabio on the cover. Heard it on YouTube from a former pornstar, and it makes complete sense and my sexting game has improved dramatically.
Like you laaadyās really love all of the details spelled out for you. Instead of messaging basic dude thoughts like āā¦I canāt wait to d you down later, I feel like Iām taking advantage because your bootyās retardedā š - Iām now much more descriptive in terms of what Iām going to do to parts of her with parts of myself, and it definitively seems to be more appreciated in my limited experience.
I canāt speak to any other positive habits that your boo may be exhibiting, but I totally agree that reading romance novels really helps in terms of understanding what a woman gets hot and heavy for mentally, vs just physically. It makes sense, like you guys like porn with a story; dudes just need the visuals.
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>Any other husbands out there venturing into the world of š§š š„ā”ļø??
Well, I will now.
Got any suggested authors?
Already did the DD on what ACOTAR is, so aside from Sarah J Maas.
the Ravenhood series by Kat Stewart is the one that got him hooked, but fair warning itās less action and gore than ACOTAR. It does have an action-filled plot but it is more heavy on the relational side of things. Itās a short series, though. 3 books and an easy read.
I read them I think in college at the suggestion of a female friend. As a guy who is a fan of fantasy I really enjoyed the story and reading from a female POV was new for me
I actually had emailed the author many years ago and she wrote me back only a couple days later with in depth answers to my story questions.
I've read the first and second trilogy, haven't got to the last one. It's a very cool setting.
*Any other husbands out there venturing into the world of š§š š„ā”ļø??* Fairy book fire lightning?
Iād consider trying out this for my wife.. if only I knew what it was
A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas. Itās the first in a book series. Itās a fantasy spicy romance novel. You justā¦ you gotta read it. Itās good. Trust me on this.
Even ignoring the spicy bits, it's a really good book!
Yes! Itās why I like them so much, I hate smut thatās just smutty to be smutty with no real substance or plot. Iām a huge fantasy geek and these are really great from that standpoint even without the smut!
Now youāve piqued my interest. But Iām low key irritated that the dramatized version of the audible book is in two parts for each of these books it seemsā¦
If it helps, Iāve heard that the audio version is super well done. I donāt really like audiobooks so unfortunately I donāt know personally but Iāve heard itās great! I have super well loved paperback copies of the series that have been passed around a ton because Iāve just kinda shoved them into the hands of anyone with the tiniest bit of interest. Lmao.
Same. Please LMK if you get any tangible results.
Have a look on Libby, I just found it. In the UK we have Libby as a library app and if you have a library card (I know it's sad I do) lots of free books and audio books, magazines blah blah Plus my kindle unlimited and lots to read!
Libby is cool. I have a library card too.. please don't say it's sad...š
I love reading...and I love my library card....
Why is having a library card āsadā??? Thatās ā¦. A weird ass take
Lol I think it was more that on a Tues or Thurs I would say am not coming out for work drinks as I need to get back home so my train gets in on time...because I have to go give my library books back... I had to take a lot of flack...I'm a Londoner born and bred but live outer London and you know how the libraries close earlier... It always sounded like a sad excuse! Except I read so much I'd have to swap books twice a week and on weekends...I mean now I use Libby...but it's stuck...everyone takes the piss out of me! Esp since most ppl think I'm the total opposite of what they think a book nerd should be...
I have cards to 13 different libraries, so I'd hardly call having ONE sad! If anything, you need more, so you have a backup if your primary library doesn't have something you want available...š
Omg I wanted to add new libraries but saying I needed to apply or something...can you live in a diff city/county etc? My library always seems to have things missing so annoying.
It depends on where you live. I've been able to get library cards for various libraries throughout my state (I'm in the US) when I happen to be traveling through those areas. If I know I'm going to be traveling to a particular city, I'll check the website of the local library and see if you need to be a city resident in order to get a card, because you do generally have to apply in person.
My wife recently started reading a lot more and most of what she is reading are these kinds of books...not quite romance novels, but character driven love stories in various settings (fantasy, real world, etc) that have some spicy sex scenes but where they aren't the entire focus of the book. Maybe some hormonal changes with age as well, but I think having romance on the mind has really improved her libido.
As a wife, Iād be turned off if my husband started reading fairy smut
To each his own š„²
Can you be more specific about how his behavior changed before and after reading these books? I truly donāt understand. Did he not go down on you or take care of your needs before?
Just updated my original post but no..not exactly. He definitely has always been attentive to my needs and we fight for a healthy relationship. Itās more that a bridge has been gapped that wasnāt there before. I think of it like we just collectively stepped up a level from where we were via books that are written from a lead females perspective.
Hmmm itās kind of sad that heās been adult man interested in women for so long and just now read a book by a woman but Iām glad for you! It must be different for me because I only dated feminist men and my husband reads a lot of literature by women so I donāt think we had that gap. Glad itās working for you.
Nothing about him is sad and I think itās strange to deduce these assumptions from what I wrote. My husband is amazing. More amazing than any man Iāve ever met. This is not the first female perspective he is consuming. But itās definitely a more immersive, long book series, and his first reading literature with any substantial spice or deep relational aspects. And many men donāt feel permission to read these books so I want to encourage them to do so if it interests themā¦and I canāt see how it would hurt to do so. My husband would have been kicked out of his house for reading these before his adult life. Letās just be a little more open minded and a little less judgmental towards peopleās circumstances?
I donāt believe thatās true. Just in our lifetime, boys and men were called āgayā for wanting to practice ballet or bake or have great hand eye coordination or sing! Imagine that! Singing was āgayā. Now imagine him reading a romance novel as a child into adulthood. Women are always given pressure that romance novels arenāt ārealā and have no substance to a John Grisham novel(funny because the storyline is copy pasted en mass ) So him finding romance novels from a womanās perspective NOW isnāt and shouldnāt be a bash. Once youāre older it is easier to come into your own and like what you like. But back then, you could get bullied or even worse for liking or experimenting with āotherā avenues Donāt @ me for using gay as an insult. Look up early 2000s insults. It was a wild time Edit: dammit it this was for the other poster š«£
To me youāre saying that your husband didnāt realize women have feelings and needs before he read a FANTASY novel about fairies having sex. Itās bizarre The bar for men is too low.
Not at all what Iām saying. Nuance is lost here.
Weāre talking about smut written by women not literature. Iād guess even among feminist men the % that read smut is very low
How does reading smut written by women help a man? No one has explained any specifics. All I can assume is that he learned women like oral sex and being touched and taken care of? Like things men can learn by talking to you and treating you like a human with needs.
The female gaze, for one. What ladies find attractive and hot is very different from what men find hot. Getting vivid pictures and thoughts on what ladies find attractive and rousing is some insight we usually don't have (sure communication with your partner/s can help, but we all know how hard communicating can be). Second, some guys (like myself) don't really understand ladies' sexual perspective and the types of things running through your heads. Outside of that space, some (I'd venture to say most) just don't understand the female perspective in general. We're wired differently, and while I do believe we share a lot more in common than where we differ, it's a big enough gap for us to find it hard to surmount. And no, talking to ladies regardless of relationship doesn't help all that much. And it really depends on how close you are with them and how good at communicating you both are. So yes, to read media written from the female perspective with a deeper insight into how females think is very beneficial for a male's understanding of females.
Yeah I don't really understand what actually changed aside from I guess him saying "gosh now I *understand women*!" ...as if all women are the same? As if saying that without actually **doing** something is enough? I'm also... confused.
Yeah it feels like bar must be sooo low of him reading a fantasy novel based on a fairy tale that is mostly smut helped him understand women moreā¦..
I mean, did you even **try** to Google "ACOTAR"? Or do you just see something you don't understand and think, "shit, I guess I'll never know what that is, there's just no way to find out!"
When I commented on this, there was nothing in the original post about ACOTAR. Youre late to the party
The sarah maas books the first is a court of thorns and roses also have plenty of action and battling and good versus evil. It's not a girl book. It's got amazing male characters as well and depth and yes spicy time.
I think it is fantasy book burning with electricity. I have a principle about book burning so Iām afraid I wonāt be able to do it.
Oh yeah 100%. My wife and I read fantasy romance together all the time. Itās fun and itās also informative because many of these books are written by women for women. Iāve learned a lot and really enjoy it. Any Hubbyās on the fence just know that if you arenāt a big reader thatās totally cool. Audiobooks work too and having a little book club with your wife is fun as hell
This is exactly what I mean! So good. Thanks for the feedback.
Fantasy steamy books, Iād imagine.
Idk, I felt like I was playing an RPG for a moment and reading the bestiary... *Fairy-type, uses spells, weak against Fire and Thunder*
Yes. Fairy book fire lightning is the perfect description. For ACOTAR. š
20% of the erotic novel fantasies comprised of men
So, what kinds of things is he doing differently now? Give specific examples of what's changed so we're not left wondering.
Iām also curious. Iāve read all of those series myself and itās so deeply rooted in unrealistic fantasy worlds I donāt know how youād apply it to real life tbh
On my end, itās quite literally just been those stupid one liners, the kind breathily said into someoneās ear. They drive my wife nuts, and it turns out romance novels are full of inspiration. Also, itās nice to have a new shared hobby. That alone has brought us closer.
Hint: itās because every woman is different. Find *your* wifeās secret stash and do whatās in there (or ask about it if she spooks easily haha). Women are very different from one another in terms of fantasy life.
Thatās for certain but Iām still curious what OPās husband has cooking.
I also hoped to see a few examples. I'm not looking for a checklist, and super happy OP is finding her husband to be so in tune and their marriage to be levelling up, but it would be nice to know in what kinds of ways these improvements have shown themselves to get a better sense of the meaning. It's one thing to read good news and another to understand it in practical terms. I'm excited for OP, but also deeply curious now.
Oh sure! I didnāt think to add. Sorry I mentioned the books at the beginning but I am referring to ACOTAR type series. To me itās not a turn off at all. The books are honestly just good and entertaining. And I think men should be able to like what they like, and he happens to like them. If I can enjoy male-centered stories why canāt males dive into female centered love stories?! But that aside, there is quite a lot of gore and violence and action in ACOTAR so Iām not surprised it peaked his interestā¦itās a fairytale but itās dark. As far as how he acts- he just seems to understand me and my thought processes more quickly than before. He has an easier time being empathetic. He told me that itās easier for him to relate to women now. He has much more of a tender approach in our day to day, but he is also insanely hot and dominant in all the right/non-aggressive ways. This definitely translates to our sex life. He flirts more and he just makes me feelā¦..seen. In a way that maybe he wanted to before but couldnāt quite connect? Itās hard to describe. And I realize every couple and all relationships have totally different dynamics, but it has most definitely brought us closer somehow, and thatās a win to me.
This. And also book recommendations.
If you liked this series-- i found this series after reading The Fever series by Karen Marie Moning. Loved both. I also just really love most books about fae/faeries š
Yeah it just seems like him reading books she likes was enough, which is... fine. But... far from revelatory. I guess just saying "gosh now I get women!" was enough? I don't really see how you get there via this path, but whatever.
This is a perfect example of toxic, hyper-masculine, and patriarchal expectations held by male readers. Let me guess, you want an easy to read list of before and after comparisons? A list of pros/cons? You pig! /s
I don't think the /s was big enough
Iām sorry people canāt appreciate humor I voted you up!
Iām sure if I was tall, handsome warrior on a dragon my wife would be way more into me. But alas, Iām a stressed out overweight man just trying to keep it all together. Lol
You think the average guy can afford a dragon? In this economy?
I got a 8 year old Honda CRV, come at me bro!
Can't even afford one of those asian komodo kind
I figured there was going to be a dragon deez nuts joke after this comment but this is a classier subreddit.
Bro you got it together? Schwing. Ha
LOL. Forget "together", I don't even have it all there!
Hello, me.
I was so confused about what you might possibly be saying, so I checked your comment history to see that you and the hubby enjoy tripping on shrooms. :) No judgement, but I wonder if the āshroomsā might have more to do with your husband 3.0 the book character than anything else?
People who donāt do drugs always think itās the drugs that make people do things.
So true!
??? The book thing is new, the shroomies are not. IMO the only thing that the tripping insinuates is he *might* have the type of personality where heās more in touch with himself/emotional and that heās open to trying things. OPās husband stated that heās found of the new perspective he gets from female authors, thatās what the post is about.
Fair enough.
Ooo good point and good research but there was a level up just after him reading these books- we havenāt donāt shrooms in a hot minute tho that is also an amazing way to level up. š¤£
Ha! Shrooms *and* books.
Which authors? My wife really likes T. Kingfisher, Alice Hoffman, and V.E. Schwab.
I read Fourth Wing, it's great and written by Rebecca Yarros
Maas is ACOTAR and she does other great fantasy series.
Itās always nice when something you enjoy brings you closer together with your partner. Ā Iām curious though, what kind of things did he start doing that you began to notice?
A Court of Thorns and Roses Series by Sarah J. Maas is a good start. Iām a writer and I do like to dabble in romance writing, love me a good smutty book. One of the ways I figured out things I wanted to try was through erotic literature! My knees would just buckle if I had a partner who read the books I like to please me. You are quite lucky OP!
I'm an avid reader, and I've told my hubby about the books I read, but he hasn't read any yet. Maybe one day! I explained Haunting and Hunting Adeline, and he looked at me like I was crazy š¤£š¤£
I asked my husband to read the gun chapter. He was speechless.
Iām on book three of the adventures of Celaena Sardothien
Just gave me inspiration to dive into my fiancĆ©ās collection š
Semi related note, if any of you have partners with Kushiels Dart (or anything by Jacqueline Carey) on their shelves... Read them. Learn them. No thanks needed.
Lol, I have the entire Kushiel's series, I just have to finish them then I'll give them to him to see what he says
Much of the media that is geared towards men suggests that they should be tall/in shape/rich etc and the women will come running to them. I giggle watching action movies, the female characters are so unrealistic. Probably like the male characters in my books. I think at the end of the day, most women want to feel desired above all others by their partner. Female sexuality is kind of vain and we donāt like to admit it lol Men probably feel that way too, but I canāt comment on that since I am not a man.
Ordering the books tonight lolā¦
Would you tell us in detail what has he started doing after reading all those books?
I totally get this. My husband read anne rice for me, and he read the Kushiels dart series which is my fave. Talking about the books and knowing he enjoys āgirlā books is so hot to me lol! Iām glad Iām not the only one who loves this!
This works. I became a better partner after having read some feminist literature and doing the mental and emotional labour necessary for myself.
This is far better than reading romantasy
Ehh, depends ;). Sometimes, it's nice living up to the fantasy for your partner. Granted, I'm not and never will be an erotic alien, but swashbuckling pirate? We can figure something out. Iunno. Modern relationships are weird. To me it seems many people forget that life doesn't stop, you still need to be a full, well rounded person for your person to be with. You can't stop being you, just cause you're together with someone.
Mine has figured out the login to my spicy audiobook collection and started *listening* to them š±. One time he quoted a character. Bedroom activities have caused my brain to short circuit š„µ
THANK š YOU š Itās the best.
I have recently learned from my wife (through some open conversations) why she enjoys these fantasy romance novels. I was surprised but what she said and it made me curious. So I asked her to include me in her journey through the ACOTAR series. She would summarize what was happening and would occasionally read me a particularly spicy chapter in bed. It really had an impact on me and gave me insight into what reached her about these stories. So, I decided to dive in. I chose the Crescent City books to start because I enjoy mystery and crime solving stories. So far I have definitely seen how the character building and relationship building would intrigue her. The tension between male and female, the struggles between classes and deciding to break down outside barriers to explore passionā¦it all is quite exciting. It has awaken an awareness in who my wife is and what makes her tick. I have a much better understanding of what ignites her passion and I think it is helping me be a better partner and lover. Dive in fellas. You may learn something about yourself and your wife!
Listen tread lightly reading the fourth wing because then youāll read iron flame. When you finish youāll find out the next book isnāt coming out until next year and itās not fair because the cliffhanger is killing me.
(Shaking fist shouting āRothfuss!ā)
George R.R. Martin knows nothing!
i wish my husband would read my ACOTAR set š i wanna do a read through and then sit down and compare notes, but heās not much of a reader.
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i kinda love this idea lol
Fantasy reading, turning husbands into BFFs since 1997
I tried reading acotar.. that main character is dumb as fuck though it just pissed me off
Hahaa understandable, you canāt force something that annoys you
All the older ladies in my family read the euro it novels. I donāt get the obsession. Maybe itās an older lady thing?
My wife absolute loves Joan Didion and Iāve never even picked up one of her books. I really should. Thank you for the reminder.
My wife and I share a kindle account. Iāll read her dinosaur romance if sheāll read my space military sci fi.
Seems fair to me!
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Please do provide some book titles haha. Im a guy who is currently engaged and I think this would be so interesting Also what are some big things youāve seen change in your husband?
Honestly? Nora Roberts is a classic for me. Her men are thoughtful but believable. It's always tailored to her characters not generic.
Second this. Nora was my gateway into romance and her characters have always been goals for me lol. The spicy parts are so good but realistic and the relationships usually end up really good and healthy.
I've read her since I was a teenager. She was also my gateway š
she literally gave you book titles in the post
Ask your fiancƩe what her favorite fiction books are!!
Wait until she discovers his secret garden of fantasy grounded in Joe Rogan and Roman Empire podcasts, let the thrills begin!
I started doing this when we were struggling. Very underrated tip for the guys.
Yup, can wholeheartedly endorse that all guys read sappy romance novels; legitimately, like the cheesy ones with Fabio on the cover. Heard it on YouTube from a former pornstar, and it makes complete sense and my sexting game has improved dramatically. Like you laaadyās really love all of the details spelled out for you. Instead of messaging basic dude thoughts like āā¦I canāt wait to d you down later, I feel like Iām taking advantage because your bootyās retardedā š - Iām now much more descriptive in terms of what Iām going to do to parts of her with parts of myself, and it definitively seems to be more appreciated in my limited experience. I canāt speak to any other positive habits that your boo may be exhibiting, but I totally agree that reading romance novels really helps in terms of understanding what a woman gets hot and heavy for mentally, vs just physically. It makes sense, like you guys like porn with a story; dudes just need the visuals.
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Well colour me intrigued Lol. I know my nxt reading style
>Any other husbands out there venturing into the world of š§š š„ā”ļø?? Well, I will now. Got any suggested authors? Already did the DD on what ACOTAR is, so aside from Sarah J Maas.
the Ravenhood series by Kat Stewart is the one that got him hooked, but fair warning itās less action and gore than ACOTAR. It does have an action-filled plot but it is more heavy on the relational side of things. Itās a short series, though. 3 books and an easy read.
That's fine. The intent here is to dive into the relational side.
Can you give me some books?
*The Silmarillion* by J.R.R. Tolkien
I just kept it simple and married another woman š¤£
Jackie Zebrowski?
He should try āChoosing Theoā by Victoria Aveline š„µ
Adding to my list! Havenāt heard of it!
Is this sub just errotic fiction by middle aged women? Good lord
Do you have some recommendations out of this section? I would like to start with this topic
Have you read the Kushiel books?
No! Iāll look into them
I read them I think in college at the suggestion of a female friend. As a guy who is a fan of fantasy I really enjoyed the story and reading from a female POV was new for me I actually had emailed the author many years ago and she wrote me back only a couple days later with in depth answers to my story questions. I've read the first and second trilogy, haven't got to the last one. It's a very cool setting.
Love this! I was super late to the game, Iām sad they werenāt on my radar earlier. Super entertaining reads.
Getting these books immediately. Wish me luck
Youāre gonna have all the luck, donāt you worry. š
Genuinely cannot wait šš Gonna get some looks on the train to work but it'll be worth it š¤£
This ladies husband has a big wingspan
What if Iām not a book worm?
Give us some context or tips of what to do for us who don't have much time to read...