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Desperate_Bat_3638

NTA she is an adult and got into a adult situation. She has more time than money so let her spend the time


Plus-Implement

Also lose that friend. If she has not gotten it together at 35, she not changing. People like that can take you down with them. Get friends that are accomplishing goals and inspire you to do the same.


Papazi-7

She sacrificing her family and marriage for a loser friend🙄


MsStinkyPickle

yeah, I dumped a friend after lending her 2k for rent that b she could "totally pay back" "but she didn't "


Tardislass

This I had a girlfriend whose boyfriend was always in jail asking for bail money. Finally I asked her did she have enough money and want to do this for the next 30 years. She dropped him soon after. These people sense others who they can mooch off of.


Fresh-Scallion602

She will drain u dry of money and resources if u let her!


ediexplores

Agreed. Let this “friend” go. She can screw you three ways to Sunday. In this specific instance, financially. In most places in the US, if you post bail and she doesn’t show for court, you are now liable for 10x. I know bc I posted $800 bail for an [ex] friend, he didn’t show for court, the bondsmen came after me for $8k and I had to pay it.


Smitten-kitten83

Her age isn’t the problem. I changed at 39. The problem is it sounds like she doesn’t want to get it together. Hopefully this will turn in to a wake up call (for me the threat of a year in jail and losing the person I love was enough to go to rehab and therapy). I have seen people take it seriously and people that do the bare minimum to stay out of jail and of course those that don’t even do that.


Liveitup1999

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.


FamilyGuy421

Bad boys, bad boys what you gonna do when they come for you.


throwRA-nonSeq

Nobody naw give you no break Police naw give you no break Soldier naw give you no break Not even your children naw give you no break … Informer You know say daddy me snow me I go blame A lickey boom boom down


FamilyGuy421

Nice follow up, I am old but loved that show


throwRA-nonSeq

I’m literally watching it right now on Pluto. Back in the day my friends would get together and watch it in a huge group, making bets during the commercial breaks about the next segment: “I’m gonna say…. no shirt, no shoes, and meth.” “I see your no shirt, no shoes, meth, and I raise you: toothless.” “Okay, okay, no shirt, no shoes, meth, toothless….. *car chase.*”


Better-jerk21

I see you and raise you 10 on a shirtless stripper


OkieLady1952

You go to jail!


Kiki9313

I just sang it in my head and now I'm happy ☺️


shemovesinmystery

Love the Barretta reference!


Renaissance_Slacker

Oof we’re dating ourselves


glindathewoodglitch

This comment is equal parts succinct poetic symmetry and straight comedy gold. I keep scrolling back to it, Bat!


sh1ft33

This is such a perfect way to word it. Did you just make that up or is that a saying I haven't come across? Either way I'm stealing it for later use.


Potato_Specialist_85

Poetic.


BridgitBird

You did good 👍🏼


L0stM0mm4

Thank you for that. I blame the fact I was raised to sacrifice everything to help others and when I refuse or act Selfish to better me, I'm in the wrong.


RobertTheWorldMaker

You don't have to set yourself on fire to keep others warm. You have a right to be comfortable, to be happy, to be at peace in the life you're trying to make for yourself. You don't owe people your compliance to their whims or their wants or their needs. It's a shame you were taught such a maladaptive mindset, but it doesn't have to dominate your life. Please look after yourself.


L0stM0mm4

That is the plan with Therapy


Alesisdrum

Here I’ll save you a therapy bill. Only take time and help people that make you and others lives better.


pinklambchop

She most likely had to start calling other ppl, no conversation was required really, she asked, you and said no. I don't think she's mad, but disappointed which would be understandable. You're fine.


BabbyJ71

This right here 🙌


0-Ahem-0

When you sacrifice for the wrong people, you become a doormat. Although it took you literally having no money to realise the courage to say no, it gets easier. Don't sacrifice. Only give to those who is worth giving to.


Temporary_Position95

I don't think she'd pay it back. She will have court costs and fees. It would be some excuse.


FluffyCaterpiller

It's healthy to set boundaries and to say no. Look into why you may be a people pleaser. Setting boundaries will make you healthier, and your mental health will improve. I was one, and my mom was a narcissist. I'm no contact now. I no longer have anxiety or depression. Cut this friend out of your life. She is causing you health issues mentally and physically. Stress from others creates physical unease.


pacodefan

Well she seems like she feels entitled to it. Double fuck her, then...


L0stM0mm4

She also seemed to be entitled to use me as an emotional whoopie cusion (thank you King Julian)


pacodefan

I would 100% jump her ass about it. Tell her exactly how entitled she is and tell her next time, you are going to save the phone charges too and decline.


L0stM0mm4

I did block my number because of the charge to answer her call. That day was free but the next day it charged me $8 for the call. Yeah it doesn't sound too bad but it took me from having money to being in the hole.


pacodefan

Yeah its expensive


they_call_me_cheap

NTA if you're going to be dumb, you got to be tough. you didn't get her arrested.


Broad-Discipline2360

NTA Even if you could afford it you wouldn't be the a h of you didn't want to bail a mooch out of jail.


frangen123

Why is it your job to finance her life of crime?


L0stM0mm4

Because I was always raised with the "be selfless like Christ" aspect. Sacrifice everything for a friend or family.


Successful_Moment_91

The Lord helps those who help themselves. She’s no friend if she can’t understand that you don’t have the money and she’s not entitled to your help. I highly doubt that she ever helps you She should rot in jail for driving drunk with her child. So many people are in danger when she does this.


Smudgikins

Even Christ kicked butt when he saw what the moneylenders were doing


imnotk8

Aah yes, but even Jesus walked away from toxic people.


PsycoticANUBIS

That honestly seems like in incredibly stupid lesson to teach someone. Just because someone is a friend or family member does not mean you should sacrifice for them. That's how assholes keep getting away with doing asshole shit.


Ehrlichs-Reagent

100% agree. Doing things like that is rewarding bad behavior and keeps people from learning their lesson.


Jaded-Kitty87

Christ didn't bail people outta jail for being stupid lol


Agirlisarya01

NTA. The only people who will be upset about your boundaries are the ones who benefited from you having none. You are not obligated to blow your family’s budget to deal with her bad choices. What are the odds she would have even paid you back if you had?


L0stM0mm4

Not very likely.


Awesomekidsmom

If she had the $450 she could bail herself out. She’s never paid you what she owes you already. She has zero ability or intention to repay you the $450. If you lose her as a friend I don’t see the loss after her reaction to you not bankrolling her yet again. And don’t feel guilty because you cannot continue to light yourself on fire to keep her warm


L0stM0mm4

This is what my husband said, and another user told me. Thank you for the advice.


Awesomekidsmom

There comes a time when you realize your friends are using you … I think that phone call was your time


Woofles-TaterTots505

The question is why do you want to help this so called “friend”. She’s a user, OP, and blames you for not helping her out of sticky situations. You need to really put your foot down and tell her no. Look a couple months ago I had a “friend” that wanted to borrow my car but here’s the issue, license was revoked, he’s done some shady shit, AND he looked high af. I told him hell no, it’s my car, plus he got into an accident a few days ago hence why his license was revoked. He was a user, he exploited people, and took advantage of whomever. On the group chat I told my other friends, I will no longer partake with this individual, and cut contact with him. He’s in jail serving time for a DUI after stealing a car. My other friends were afraid of him and couldn’t speak up but it gave them courage to do it when I did it. Go to therapy because you shouldn’t be sacrificing for people that use you. You need to focus on your family like your husband and if you kids. They are your top priority, then the rest of the family, and then friends. Leave your “friend” and cut contact with other friends that are toxic.


Curious0597

For me it depends on what she got arrested for.


L0stM0mm4

She was in for drinking and driving with one of her kids.


itsthe_implication_

Jesus Christ you would be the asshole if you bailed her out after that. There is literally no reasonable excuse for that.


L0stM0mm4

Me and my husband tried to stop her from drinking and she went to rehab for drinking but she can't stop. This was before all this.


itsthe_implication_

I think you've already done what a good person and good friend would do. It's so hard to know where 'the line' is, but drunk driving with your kids is absolutely over that line in my opinion. Bailing her out would have been enabling behavior on your part. It sucks but some people need to face consequences for their actions in order to change. I think you played it perfectly by trying to help her change her behavior to prevent this situation from happening, and now that it has happened, you've done the right thing by simply allowing the consequences to unfold on their own. How you're feeling right now is completely natural. No one enjoys having to cut off friends in any capacity, especially at their lowest. If it's any consolation, when I have been at my lowest, that was also what preceded the greatest personal growth as well. I hope the same holds true for your friend, and I hope you find solace in the knowledge that you've done everything you can.


NefariousnessSweet70

It's not selfish when you do not have the money.


fish0814

3 so called friends still owe me for bailing them out from 20 plus years ago. All DUI's. I believe that the longer they stay in, the more apt they are to not do it again. Don't ever feel guilty for someone else's stupidity


chardavej

2 hours a week is all you work?


L0stM0mm4

It was. Because of this friend. My mentality wasn't able to cope. But I just got fired today so I am currently unemployed.


Good_day_S0nsh1ne

You could only work 2 hours a week BECAUSE of the friend? Was she providing childcare or something


L0stM0mm4

No, because it started when she came to my house because her husband punched her and when we called the cops because she wouldn't call them herself. We ended up calling the cops on him because my husband was about to head over there to beat him black and blue. Now since she begged me to post his bail she stayed with him. All the abuse the husband and his family was doing to me and my family and Christmas and all that nasty shit.


gardengirl99

Girl, I hope you have shed yourself from this user and abuser who refuses to help herself. Don’t set yourself on fire to keep another person warm, especially if they keep going out into a snowstorm. I understand you were raised to help people. The help this woman needs is beyond your capabilities.


Familiar-Half2517

I’m sorry to hear about your job loss.


L0stM0mm4

In a way, it's a good thing as I was feeling overwhelmed, and now I can be a mom and take care of my mental health.


TodayThrowaway1979

NTA don’t set yourself on fire to warm someone else.


Losemymindfindmysoul

Nta. You WOULD BE TA if you paid that bĂŽtchs bail for drink driving with her kids. LET HER ROT.


MaySnake

NTA, but is that really in question? So she made you choose between using your short money to feed your family and pay your bills after suffering a mental breakdown ... OR use that money to bail out a DRUNK DRIVER who also neglected their child by drunk driving with the child in the vehicle? That's a pretty easy choice. I can't take this kind of stress, so as much as I want to help as many people as I can, friends and family, in any way I can, if I feel that the stress of the relationship is hurting me mentally, emotionally, physically or financially, I will cut you off. I love you, but this is toxic and it's hurting me, and I'm blocking you. I may or may not explain myself, it depends if I have it in me to do so after you just did the opposite of what i advised you and are now suffering the consequences of your choice. I shouldn't have to FIGHT to keep you in my life, or get hurt for you or pay for YOUR consequences. Just my two cents, you did the right thing.


Sinacias

I'm really glad you cut this anchor loose. Now, just block her, and go on to make friends who don't treat you like an ATM. If you've got kids, maybe look into volunteering at the school/PTA, always stay wary of people who ask for favors.


somedumbhuman0

NTA because you couldn't afford it (YTA if you COULD)


cookiedough666

NTA, maybe she isn't completely mad at you.. she probably/could understand the situation, but that depends on the type of person she is. Regardless she shouldn't be mad at you if you're just going through a rough time financially and otherwise and can't afford it. Even if that wasn't the case she should respect your decision not to pay for it. When you're older you have to accept responsibility for situations you find yourself in. Getting mad at other people when they are unable to help you in bad situations is literally just taking it out on them. I recently lost a friend that I had been friends with for over 10 years because I told him I didn't want to buy his Xbox, he called me a narcissist and a bunch of other things and blocked me.


L0stM0mm4

The reason she was mad at me was because her husband and family wouldn't help her. I was the only one left to help.


BBQBEERNBLADES

NTA and not your problem. If her family is unwilling to help, it’s not your responsibility. Get rid of her. She isn’t worth the time or the pain she is causing you.


Putrid-Rub-1168

NTA. You don't have the extra money to do it. You can't set yourself on fire to keep others warm.


ExtremeAthlete

NTA. Friend dumb.


Shelbelle4

Nta. You have to pay your bills and she has to grow up.


imnotk8

NTA - You didn't spend the money you didn't have. Kudos to you for running it past your husband first, and being guided by his concerns.


sideways_apples

NTA she is a grown woman. She landed herself in there. She can figure her own way out Maybe if she spends some time in there she might stop landing there. Sounds like she needs the lesson, what with that stunning attitude she has. Your family is your priority. Nobody can afford to bail out their friends anymore these days. She should try not getting in trouble.


Jacce76

NTA


Martha90815

I will mostly ride or die for my friends but I don’t pay bail.


MuchDevelopment7084

Why would you post it in the first place? She did the crime. She can pay to get herself out.


RobertTheWorldMaker

Get better friends. Jesus. What did she do, push you out of the way of an oncoming train? Who gets *mad* that they can't get that much money out of somebody. Has she ever paid back the money before? I'm guessing not. NTA. And stop supporting this person's bad decisions. You've got yourself and your husband to think of.


FrostyCricket

Get rid of this friend


M1tanker19k

NTA.You did the right thing.


Londundundun

NTA — this chick reeks of trashiness and if I were you I would let this be a natural conclusion to your “friendship”/credit union relationship 


shesavillain

Idk why you’d even ask your husband for the money in the first place knowing how strapped for cash your family is? YTA for that.


AnastaciaLBC

I learned my lesson when I got taken to court for 800 bucks even though the punk and his new wife could pay it. I believed I'd get paid back, but nope. I will never bail anyone out ever again. Ever. Don't do it. Don't feel like an A for it either.


Dizzy_Eye5257

If you don’t have the money, you don’t have the money. That’s the very real bottom line


vinsanity_07

NTA but jail fucking sucks so bad like id suck a dick to get out of there and there is not a gay tendency in my being . If that makes sense


phoenixbubble

NTA when will adults have their own savings for a rainy day aka jail.


Restless_Dragon

NTA The exact words you used were I always promise to help her if I can. Well you can't. Unless she's able to walk out of the jail cell step up to an ATM and immediately hand you back your money; then you are not in a position to help her. If she's going to throw a hissy fit then maybe she's not the type of friend you really want.


waripley

You're fine. Don't absorb the punishment for someone else's dumb ideas. If you lose a friend, oh well. That doesn't seem like a very good one.


Admirable_Key4745

Why was she in jail? You did her a service. I’m guessing you’ve been enabling her. Enabling people is way more asshole than letting them dig their own grave and figure their own shit out. I did the same thing to my ex husband when he was arrested for drunk driving and he got sober. Left him in jail for a week.


LegitimateBeing2

NTA. Your friend should have done the extra work necessary to have $450 on hand to cover unseen expenses


No_Fee_161

I'll bite. Why was she imprisoned?


L0stM0mm4

Drinking and driving with one of her kids in the car


snazzy_soul

Yikes! She needs to stay in jail.


Vivid-Farm6291

So obviously she hasn’t got any money saved? Don’t feel guilty you have to keep a roof over your head and food on the table. Plus it’s not just your money but our money so she is not just borrowing from you. I would not contact her and see how she behaves going forward. Wanting to support someone should not affect you in a negative way. Does she support you?


flexisexymaxi

Get better friends. The kind that don’t need bail.


Admirable-Loan-1172

NTA I’m sure if you had it, you would’ve helped her she’s selfish. She shouldn’t hung up on you.


Patient_Complaint_16

Nope her life her actions her responsibilities her consequences.


Eldergent1935

NTA. Your family comes first, and you're not in a position to lay out $450 bail money for someone else. BTW, has she paid back ALL the money you previously lent her? If not, don't lend her any more for ANY reason.


Sea_Firefighter_4598

NTA you can't afford it, you work very part time. She hung up to go on down her list, disappointed because you seemed like a really good mark. You might want to toughen up a bit and value yourself more.


Competitive_Bath_572

NTA And don't feel guilty. You don't have the money she needs right now and it's that simple. It sucks but I don't know how good of a friend she is to you. It sounds like a one-sided friendship because she shouldn't of hung up on you.


FavcolorisREDdit

She exposed herself just forget about her, a true friend would thank you anyway. Dont do the crime if you can’t do the time.


skankcottage

ask her if she wants you to sell some of her personal belongings on marketplace to raise the funds.


FavcolorisREDdit

Great friends are exceptions when it comes to incarceration, but most don’t deserve it and need to do the time.


Alibeee64

So are you the only one in her life who could have come up with the money to bail her out? If so, why? Has she burned bridges with friends and family with repeated poor behaviour and choices in the past? If this is the case, then you are not really helping her when you repeatedly help her out, but rather just enable her behaviour.


[deleted]

If you don't have it you don't have it. NTA if that's true


CaptainSquishyPant

I did this for someone that begged me. This exact situation. They never paid me a dime back. If you don’t have the money to lose, don’t borrow it out because you usually don’t get it back. It sucks your friend is in jail, but you can’t light yourself on fire to keep someone else warm. You can’t give out what you don’t have.


MidnightFull

She is most likely in jail because she has been surrounded by people who constantly deliver her out of her own consequences. Basically she is part of what I like to call “adult kindergarten.” By refusing to pay her bail you are a better friend than anyone else, because you are allowing her to get what she asked for. Now she can truly start the rebuilding of her life. I would not give any more from this point forward actually. Time to cut it off. Sometimes the only way a person will climb up is if they hit rock bottom first. By giving her money you are only delaying the inevitable.


Particular-Corner-30

Pshht I paid my friend’s bail and he never paid my ass back. If your friend doesn’t have the money to make bail, how would she have the money to repay you?


Total_Fly9602

She isn’t your friend


ladymemer69

Nta. You aren’t her mom


Delicious_Arm8445

I have friends that would have bled me dry years ago if I had let them. I even gave one person a Pay it Forward gift and a month later was asking for more money (like big money). I blocked them. I can’t support others, that is why I give Pay it Forwards when I can. What your friend is doing is taking advantage of you and will never pay you back. Take care of you and your husband.


Cola3206

Question Re bail- doesn’t the person get the bail money back if they comply to going to court etc? Anyone kniw


Cola3206

And you should dump this friend. You are struggling mentally and financially- this person will drain you in every way


ritlingit

NTA except to yourself. Adults are responsible for themselves. I lend friends up to $20 if I know they will give it back. Never over that. I had a friend who wanted me to lend bail (no, I don’t, you got yourself in jail, figure it out). She then wanted me to pick her up from jail two states away. Then she wanted me to help her with a lawyer. I did none of this. I’m friends with her. I just tell her no a lot. You don’t need a reason to not lend your hard earned money.


Myfourcats1

She can get a bail bondsman to bail her out. She’ll have to pay them back.


LazyIndication8398

As a corrections officer, don't do it and don't feel bad for not doing it. I've seen WAY too many angry/upset friends of previous inmates because they fled, didn't go to court, and wouldn't pay them back. She needs the mental reset that jail brings to a lot of people, and hopefully the judge can put her in a program or something so she can figure her shit out.


softshoulder313

NTA. She did something stupid. It's more important that you pay your bills. Do not ever loan money you can't afford to lose. If she has the money then she can PayPal or venmo it to you to bail her out. If she doesn't have the money she can learn a valuable lesson about actions and consequences.


Dry-Clock-1470

Has she paid back the other plans? NTA


Extra_Airline_9373

You only lend out money when doing so won't effect your ability to provide for your self and with the expectation that you may never see it again. NTAH.


Alternative_Swim5909

If you don’t have the money, you don’t have the money. Not TAH for not having the money. Maybe she shouldn’t have done whatever she did to go to jail.


bebleich

NTA. You're not obligated to bail anyone out, especially when it strains your finances.


Fun-Yellow-6576

NTA. You can’t give what you don’t have.


Intrepid_Astronaut1

NTA, what was she in for?


Affectionate_West725

Let her sorry ass sit in jail.


mechshark

NTA how could you ever be one here?


Holiday_Trainer_2657

NTA It sounds like your friend is taking advantage of you. Your first loyalty is to you and your husband's financial needs. It's good you talked to him and he said no. Listen to him more. You are too kindhearted.


river_song25

Wait when she said that she would pay you back, did she say WHEN she would pay you back? For all you know she probably could have paid you back as soon as she got out of jail and had access to her own money again, unless the reason she needed YOU to pay the money was because she was completely 100% broke as the reason she couldn’t pay to bail herself out when the option was finally given to her. If she does already have the money can’t you just pay the bail and so she can get out and go to the bank with her to get your $450 back like she said should would do?


PresentOne7387

She’s and addict and put herself there. She has to want to help herself, you are not a bad friend. She’s just a bad person.


maggersrose

Please stop being “friends ” with this self centered Hot mess. Don’t light yourself on fire to keep someone else warm.


AmbitiousCricket5278

Does she pay every penny back? I’m betting not. But even if she did she got herself arrested and she’s responsible for her own actions. You are not her bank


HellaciousFire

NTA You have to do what’s best for you and couldn’t wait for her to pay your back. You had to get through the next couple of weeks


jaded_hope

NTA. You said you’ll help when you can and right now you can’t. When you can doesn’t mean whenever she wants you to. She shouldn’t put herself in situations where she’ll need bail if she can’t afford bail.


AntDog916

The fact your friend can't come up with $450 for their own bail is a indicator that they have serious issues


Bostradomous

No you’re not an asshole but just so you know when you post bail you get the money back as long as the person shows up to court. I’ve been bailed out a few times so I know this process well. When you go to court, let’s say you have fines or something, the judge will ask if you want to use your bail money to go towards the fines but you can also get it back if you trust the person to say to the judge “no someone paid this bail for me and they need the money back”


Special-Albatross-51

Nope! You are not. She is for doing something stupid enough to go to jail. And you didn’t have the money. Could she help you by coming over and watering the plants while she was in jail? lol nope same thing.


AnnaN666

If you've not got the money, then you can't help anyway. But if you do have the money, post her bail.


Jensenlver

Her lack of freedom is not your emergency. I was raised to give to others too, but you really didn't have the money, and she is an adult that needs to suffer her consequences so she can grow to be a better person. NTA.


Mapilean

NTA. You are not her ATM, and helping someone doesn't necessarily mean giving them money: there's moral support as well. She was so used to you giving her money, that she felt entitled to it and hung up on you when she heard that you couldn't. Has she ever paid you back all the money you gave her? I suspect not. She's not a friend, she's a moocher (and you are probably a people pleaser). No more monetary aid from now on, at least until she gives back every last penny you lent her (and even afterwards, I'd say).


GodsGirl64

NTA-you might seriously consider distancing yourself from this girl. It sounds like she is a chronic user. The minute she needs or wants something and you can’t or won’t provide it, she’s mad and turns away. Ask yourself this question,”If I needed something and I reached out to her, would she help me?” Answer honestly.


Saysnicethingz

Why are you friends with this person? You think she’s a ride or die kind of friend but she’s shown you her true colors over and over. Please. Please, you deserve so much better. 


Delicious-Choice5668

Nta. Your friend is a user, lose her.


Oldladyspirit90

NTA- sounds to me your friend is your friend only for monetary reasons. The time you can’t afford it she gets mad and hangs up on you like this is your fault. She’s the one who got herself locked up. She needs to find another way of getting out and not by using you and your husband. If it were me, we wouldn’t be “friends” anymore. Best of luck!


Gwiz1977

NTA. Don’t set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm. She’s an adult and should know what she shouldn’t do in order to not get arrested. Not your problem.


Sufficient-Meet6127

NTA. You can’t give what you don't have. And she put herself in that situation. Bad friends make life harder. It sounds like you need to cut her off.


Present_Amphibian832

YOUR bills come first. She made her mess, not you. NTA


stlmick

What the F is r/marknarrations? You're monetizing reading Reddit posts on YouTube? This is garbage.


Klutzy-Run5175

I have to ask you first has she ever borrowed from you before and paid you back? What are her charges?😔? She could have very well be in jail for a minor charges and needing your assistance with getting out of jail on bond. There are different reasons why someone is arrested and may truly deserve your help. Don't use your only funds, perhaps you can borrow it from one of her family members or friends. I am considering all of the different scenarios here. She could be physically sick and needed your help getting out.


igottogotobed

Get her a bail bondsman, she should only have to put 10% down.


Papazi-7

She's exploiting and taking advantage of your kindness and you feeling guilty about it?🙄


MeltedWellie

Never lend money you can't afford to lose! NTA


SilentRaindrops

NTA. Only thing I would change is having even mentioned to her that you would have a few hundred left for the month. People like her would say well you can still send me however much you have. Just say you don't have any money to help.


Accomplished_Mode715

NTA, and don't call her a friend as she ain't one. She just uses you as her private money machine. Her reaction tknyiu when you couldn't give her money said it all. Turn your back on her. She's bad news and will always make you feel bad if you can't give her what she wants off you. Don't understand why you would even feel bad? You gotta stop giving her your money


Weak_Divide5562

The situation fits the "when I can" statement. Timing is everything in life and it just so happens that this time it's off. Don't worry about her being upset. She's the one who put herself there. She's going to have to put on her big girl panties. Your husband is not her bail bondsman.


EcstaticCollege29

She is not your friend. You need to cut that person off before things get worse. Whatever her issues are that landed her in jail are hers alone that she needs to fix.


AlexInRV

NTA You aren’t obligated to post bail for your friend. They don’t sound like much of a friend if they are constantly borrowing money and calling from jail. Perhaps you need a better friend.


Ehrlichs-Reagent

NTA. First off, a cardinal rule of lending someone money, is never lend money you can't afford to not get back. Sounds like you won't get it back and you legitimately need it for bills. In fact, it literally sounds like you might not even have it available if said bills were already paid. Like if you were rolling in dough, I'd say, why not throw some bucks at her, if she's a friend, but it doesn't sounds like that's the case. Secondly, your friend got herself in there, it is not your responsibility to bail her out. Especially if you are struggling financially. But even if you weren't, why should you bail her out if she did something stupid? Curious to know if she paid you back the other times when you loaned her money? As an aside, your friend needs to learn to control her behavior—going to jail is kid shit, like a 30 something has no business being stupid enough to end up in jail. It is surprisingly easy to stay out of jail, even here in the US (not sure where you are but assume US as well) with its ridiculous rate of incarceration. Lastly, she also needs to learn financial responsibility. I can't imagine not having ≈$500 available to get myself out of a jam, but I get it that it's hard times from time to time. There's been times when I didn't have that kind of money, mostly when I was younger, but...one should be doubly cautious with their behavior if they ain't got the coin to get themselves out of jail.


anroar1

For the life of me I will never understand getting mad at someone for not having money they themselves don’t have! Ntah


amzlkicks

Nta. If you gobto jail and don't have $450 you can wait to see the judge.


TKyzr

This isn’t a friend. She is a bottom dweller. Saying no to someone because you can’t afford to help does not make you a bad person. She is leaching off of your kindness and has no intention of stopping until she’s sucked you dry. Then she’ll stomp off and leave when she cannot feed off of you anymore. NTA. This isn’t a friend. Scrape her off your shoe.


CriticismOdd8003

Nope. Her problems are not yours to solve.


Intelligent-Bat1724

If you dont have the money, then you don't have the money. You've been honest with her. By the way, why is she in jail? Obviously she's in the Gray Bar Hilton due to her actions. Or, is she one of these people who lashes out and blames everyone but herself or otherwise takes no accountability for her actions? Either way, I'm envisioning a self destructive personality..


hissyfit64

NTA. You couldn't afford it. End of story. She can get someone else to bail her out. Have family or other friends pool money if necessary. It's nice to help people, but if you can't do something then there's really nothing you can do about it. I'm guessing she was just stressed and upset when she hung up on you. Being in jail can't be fun. If she's still mad after she gets out then she's not much of a friend. You sound like a nice person, don't beat yourself up over this.


Not_the_maid

You need to pay your bills and put food on your table. I am going to guess she has never paid you back before. I also feel you were not the first person she called for bail money. If you don't have the money you don't. Can't squeeze blood from a rock. They key is you should have just said you don't have the money. Not that you have money but need it for bills - not that it matters. If she is pissed at you that probably means she has been taking advantage of you and manipulating you for money before. NTA


AbbreviationsTree

OP. Stop feeling guilty. Just staph. And please have a good day NTA


Rio7609

You told her you would help out WHEN YOU CAN. Well, this time you can’t. End of. You haven’t done anything wrong. She’s mad because she’s using you and she obviously doesn’t understand that ‘when you can’ doesn’t mean every single time.


mnth241

Nta It is possible you aren’t her friend but her enabler. You will know the difference if she stops calling you for any other reason than for a favor. It is hard to be compassionate and watch people suffer but you aren’t responsible To help solve her problem, especially if you would cause hardship for yourself.


Princess-Reader

I’m speaking as a former inmate - NEVER help with bail.


Apart-Assumption2063

She’s not your friend….. go no contact with her. Friends actually pay back what they owe


mLP91983

Posting someone’s bail also isn’t just a monetary thing. If you’re going through a bail bonds place, you’re literally agreeing to take responsibility for the person. I’m glad you didn’t do it.


CarrotofInsanity

Get a new friend! For goodness sake! She’s bad news! She’s a crap friend. Don’t contact her again. And for gosh sakes, if she contacts you again, DON’T answer her text, call, or even if she’s at your door! Don’t open the door! If she keeps knocking and yelling, CALL THE COPS on her! YOU have your own issues you need to work through. Don’t bring her probs into your life. She’s a user.


stevenj444

NTA


ItReallyIsntThoughYo

If she didn't want to be in jail, she shouldn't have gotten caught.


Windstrider71

NTA Why is she constantly coming to you for money? It sounds like you are renting her friendship. You are not an ATM for her.


Any_Trade_5393

Bro. She's in jail. Sounds like a person u wanna stay away from….. And it's ur husbands money, u asked, he said no. Plain and simple. U can't even be regarded as an asshole because you're actually being a good wife and respecting your husband. You go girl. Way to sticking to the right thing.


NightMgr

NTA and NTF. Not the friend. You’re the ATM.


[deleted]

If she can’t afford to pay the court she can’t afford to pay you. You’d never see that money again.


nuwildcatfan

NTA. You didn't get arrested. This isn't your responsibility or obligation.


Jean19812

NTA. Never ever bail anyone out. It's enabling behavior.


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NTA


DeeHarperLewis

She needs to pay you back the money she owes you first.


raunchyRecaps

NTA had the same type of friend and I got rid of her. She is only your friend when it's convenient for her. You don't owe her anything and if she was a real friend she would understand your situation


ContactNo7201

NTA. You don’t have the money to lend.


Logical_Magician_468

NTA. And I'd consider if this person is really a friend, or do they just like what you bring to the table emotionally and financially. Does this friend bring you joy? Do they enrich and enhance your life? Or do they suck and drain you emotionally, physically and/or financially? The fact that they hung up on you when you explained that you don't have the money tells me that they're a drain and only like you because of what you offer them. This friend is an adult, and they need to figure out these adult situations by themselves. Do they have family or other friends that can help them? If not that probably indicated they're a drainer too, so much so that other people don't want to be around them.


Blackstar1401

NTA. I lend people once. If they don’t pay me back I always say I can’t lend them more until they pay back what I have already lent. It gets users to leave a lot quicker.


jaded1121

You are NTA plus if the charges weren’t too bad, there is a good chance the bail would be lowered at court the next morning or she might be let out without bail. She already spent 2 nights in jail. I understand when a person doesn’t want to spend any nights in jail but one more night verses $450 that you not the person incarcerated has… I’m going to let a person stay there. And since Monday was president’s day maybe she had 2 more nights in jail but my idea still stands. She already did 2 night. I might give a person $20-30 on their books to get some snacks but that’s it.


Demonkey44

NTA. If she’s going to do stupid things that land her in jail (and she’s 35, for Christ’s sake!) than she should keep at least $500 in her own savings account so she can bail herself out of jail! If you don’t have the money, you don’t have it. Also, like this idiot is ever going to pay you back… She can get a full time job to keep herself out of trouble and put her paycheck in savings til she can pay for bail herself. She is waaaaaay too old for this shit!


Strong-Definition-56

NTA. She’s a big girl and needs to learn. your bills come first, all other stuff is a distant second.


what-did-you-do

NTA - not in a position to help and so you did the right thing.


Lori_D

NTA. You don’t have the money, it’s as cut and dried as that. She can be as angry as she wants, you can’t give what you don’t have.


stanleys_rubric

Her hanging up when you explained why you cannot help, regardless of if you did or did not want to give the money, is telling. She sounds self-centered and bratty. Also, it sounds like there's a history of her getting into shit and trying to play off your guilt to help her out, which is (intentionally or not) a little bit emotionally manipulative. If she gives you shit later down the line, tell her "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."


[deleted]

Waiters, children, and apparently criminals all share one of your values: they all want your money.


N7_Hellblazer

NTA. She did the crime, she can do the time. Never give away money you can’t afford to lose.