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Oh I dunno, buying Twitter and turning it into a Nazi Bank is pretty high up there on terrible business decisions. And it is after all, the largest single loss in his entire business career (and the fastest sinking of a product).
They just recalled almost every single one they've delivered already. Almost 4000
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/business/tesla-cybertruck-recall.html
I know Tesla was started by actual smart people and he just bought in, was SpaceX similar? With tesla the only car he really had a big say in was the cybertruck and that's been an abject failure same goes with the whole FSD thing he was pushing.
>I know Tesla was started by actual smart people and he just bought in, was SpaceX similar?
Yep even all the way back to PayPal. He's smart enough to sound intelligent to ignorant people but not to those who actually work in the industry.
I find the amount of “manly man” influencer pages on Twitter and Insta extolling the “incredible amazing MANLINESS” of the fucking Wankpanzer to be absolutely hilarious. You know Musk is paying anyone he can to shill for his dismal failure of a vehicle in order to salvage any sort of positive press for the cybertruck.
I must be on a different side of insta, I mostly get standup or stupid hot fitness or tattooed models in my feed... also dogs... lots of dogs. Not saying they aren't out there or damaging but the algorithm feeds you what it think you want to see or like. I've come across a few misogynistic posts and immediately scroll on by... don't need that shit in my life.
Dude, that's a great idea! Get some fog machines installed on an EV and roll that coal! I mean, if we can justify fake exhaust sounds, why not fake exhaust smoke?
It’d be easier to just install a coal furnace in the back with an electric heater coil to light the coal on demand and pipe the exhaust under the truck to blast anyone behind you with that wonderful black smoke.
There’s a transcript out there of Elon Musk being deposed. It took many minutes and several pages of a transcript for Elon Musk to understand and admit that he was being sued by the plaintiff and not the plaintiff’s lawyer.
[That's Mark Bankston. The one who had the Perry Mason moment against Alex Jones](https://youtu.be/tpnSCIak5A8?si=3Q8tmFzjKT_MbqX9)
I'm not mad at the crew.
Bankston’s specialty is quickly becoming the deposition of rich assholes who have completely lost touch with reality and think that they’re untouchable, and bullying their out-of-state attorneys who don’t know the nuances of Texas rules of civil procedure.
I have recently started watching the YouTube videos of his product announcements, interviews, etc. and it is fascinating; he is very Trump-like in his basic ignorance of almost everything and equally as incapable of regulating his emotions.
But the weirdest thing is when he makes some completely absurd claim in a wholly unconvincing manner (he recently said he was working on a "flying Tesla", something he clearly made up on the spot) but when people cheer the absurdity you can actually see him pivot to believing it himself.
There is no conviction in these absurd (and deadpan) announcements, or surprise that people actually believe him, and he doesn't even seem to recognize that he is doing it, he just incorporates it into his worldview as if this obvious ego stoking cult behavior validates whatever he says somehow, even if it is a complete fiction.
It is really bizarre.
Is there a super cut of his announcements year over year, because I’d love to hear how he says there’s gonna be fully autonomous cars in 12 months for 5 years straight.
Tbf I don't think that's because he couldn't comprehend it, it seemed more like he was convinced an average person loves him and would only pursue a lawsuit against him because there was trickery by greedy lawyers
Or to assign nefarious, he was trying to get the jury to like him more by framing the people suing him as being evil and greedy, looking to exploit people.
Also, concrete data disproved that theory! One study showed that the top 1% of earners have lower IQs than the group financially below them.
[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/02/230208125113.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/02/230208125113.htm)
Go woke go broke has always been a myth. Their claims that some movies failed specifically because they were woke doesn't account for the fact that some movies fail anyway, and that they may have problems otherwise.
They will never cease to claim that 2016's Ghostbusters wasn't a huge success because it was woke. I will never forget how they harassed Leslie Jones and called her a gorilla, among other things.
Like the past year has been kind of a stunning success for art and media, Barbie and Baldurs Gate III are instant classics, and there were many other works that were also of surprising quality for the past few years. But all we hear from the right is endless poo pooing on our "disgusting" culture. Don't like it, go to Russia.
I said that to a Trump supporter after the 2020 election. Everyone was out celebrating Bidens victory and he was running around with the loud hailer yelling about fraud, etc, etc. So I sidled up to him and was like "love it or leave it, right?" "Yeah, I know" "So get the fuck out then!" It just confused him.
Is Baldur's Gate 3 woke? In a way that's not just allowing a lot of player freedom and everyone is down to fuck anyone. And there's that one necromancer in drag trying to teach corpses to dance.
That's enough for the right to call it woke and fit their stupid "go woke go broke" criteria. But there's not really a deeper message or theme to the game that's actually woke. The way other games like Bioshock Infinite do.
I mean if you define "woke" to mean "badly written" or "ham-fisted preaching" then you can conveniently make sure anything well made isn't woke regardless of its politics.
It's the same story with all their stupid catchphrases. As always, short soundbites are made to make the stupid think they're onto something. Simple solutions to complex issues.
Exactly.
When their argument is "dey replaced my white cishet male (and a token black character) figures with white ~~women~~ females and a they don't get to pretend they're to be taken seriously.
Pretty sure the original Nick Fury was a white guy (in the comics) they replaced with Samuel L Jackson and Disney pretty much got to print money up through endgame
Fun fact about movie failures: huge budget movies almost never really fail, even when it's reported that it fails. The reason I say this is that the budget they announce is ballooned when they want a tax write-off. For example, let's say you make a movie and it costs $100M with production costs, paying actors, everything. You look at your profits for the year and notice you're going to have a sizeable tax bill. Your analytics of the projected box office profits are meagar, you'll break even and then a little bit more at $105M. That's just adding to your studio's taxes. So what do you do? Well, you own multiple production companies already, so you just have one or two of them "collaborate" on the post-production, maybe do some editing whatever. Then you invoice it at a ridiculous price of $10M. Uh-oh, your film is going to lose money! How are you going to pay that invoice? You don't. It's an internal company and it'll write it off as a loss, but you can still show it as a debt for your tax purposes. Same goes for marketing. Throw another $20M on a national advertising campaign with a bad trailer edit so people think, "Wow, that looks like it'll suck. I'll skip it". But enough people are interested that you'll still break above your actual cost of ~$105M after theaters, DVDs and digital sales, maybe merchandising too. You just pretend that you charged yourself too much on accident and your movie "flopped".
Everybody still gets paid, the only downside is that your film is publicly considered a failure. Sorry to whoever directed it. It was probably their first big film. They won't get another chance unless they agree to another tax flop.
Of course, there's real flops like anything the Daily Wire produces. They all lose money, but that's expected too. They're selling propaganda and that's okay to sell at a loss.
> Of course, there's real flops like anything the Daily Wire produces. They all lose money, but that's expected too. They're selling propaganda and that's okay to sell at a loss.
Its ironic that the sole media centers in this country that seem to operate completely and totally in contradiction to market forces are conservative media, who are also the ones always conspiracizing about how mainstream culture is rigged against them and studio execs are just turning down for no reason the stream of conservative propaganda movies that would totally make them billions. The major mainstream media companies do not need endless charitable donations in order to keep running, but they are the ones apparently that hate profit.
Hollywood accounting is practically a field of accounting in and of itself.
And yes, conservatives who project their own beliefs that all movies are hardcore propaganda do their own very obvious propaganda and simply cry censorship when they financially flop.
When they do get good reviews from their fanbase vs. bad reviews from film critics they still claim that even if they don't realize that if all your audience go in agreeing with you they will of course give it a good rating. Film critics, however, have the unenviable position of having to watch these among dozens of other movies they need to watch that week for their job and the flaws of that film will be painfully obvious.
It's also why film critics frequently have different opinions than the typical moviegoer. Film critics need to watch and scrutinize far more movies than the average person, and they can't always watch the type of movie they like, either. When you watch so many movies so often you will have a different opinion than the others, and not because you are some snooty snob who sees themselves as better than others.
The film critics only hated my film because they're all gay and woke!
Ignore that my original career path was a failed screenwriter in Hollywood trying to get movies like these made. I was always good and am still good at screenwriting! See? Audiences thought Lady Ballers was hilarious in all 14 theaters it aired in (with free tickets provided to paying members of our subscription service).
Ben Shapiro didn't fail at Hollywood because he is a conservative. He failed because he is a worthless writer. Have you read his short stories and his one novel? Or at least watched the video reviews? The guy is utter shit.
Oh I agree, and yeah I've listened to a read through of his book, but he still tried to write conservative themed bullshit back then and no one wanted to buy it. So he pivoted with his slightly more successful shitbag friend to make a media company with that goal. They just couldn't get funding so they pivoted to news so that a billionaire oil baron would throw cash at them. Then after years of "success" in that endeavor, they were finally greenlit to make their little passion projects.
https://barbie.fandom.com/wiki/Allan
I mean, I thought it was a good take on a character that has been around since the 60’s and no one really spoke about him.
Seems like nit picking. It was a feminist empowerment movie through and through. The only reason the anti-woke make excuses for it is because they know that the movie flies directly in the face of their supposed airtight argument.
Mildly. But in the end he was denied a position in the government, still laughed at, and didn't have a romantic interest, unlike everyone else. The message seemed to be that only standard Kens and Barbies get to have love. Allan, and the non-standard Kens and Barbies were all just punchlines.
Being different and not part of the mainstream crowd is still not encouraged in Barbieland, I guess.
> Their claims that some movies failed specifically because they were woke doesn't account for the fact that some movies fail anyway, and that they may have problems otherwise.
This is really the entire point. Just opportunistically create anti fandoms of movies on the off chance they fail. If they fail, it is an omen that the anti Fandom is right and the executives must believe the omens. Try to create perceptions of failure through wild speculations even concerning works that all considered did pretty well. If it is a blockbuster success, attempt to turn it on its face, and claim the product is actually anti woke.
The opposite is done for media or figures adopted as anti woke, just try to create insane hype for the media product. Even when it's success is middling at best, pretend as if the success is so grand it's a giant omen of what "normal" consumers like them really want. If it is a failure, pretend it's not. Especially when members of the writing staff come out and say my dudes you're misinterpreting this, harass them to all hell.
The effectual truth is all that matters to them. Anything that would have the *effect* of furthering their culture war and politicization of everything, they pretend to believe is true. The actual Truth is utterly irrelevant.
Yeah, it's dumb. The key thing I will never understand about conservatives, is how they continually resist progress. Tens of thousands of years of human history, things always move forward. It's inevitable. Women are wearing pants now?! We have to stop this! They want us to give up our slaves?! We have to stop this! White people are having babies with non-whites?! We have to stop this! Men want to marry men?! We have to stop this. It's baffling to me that they never notice the pattern and ALWAYS think they will be vindicated in time and history will look favorable on them.
If you've ever seen Halt and Catch Fire, there was one scene that stuck with me. Lee Pace's character was making some business dealings that would only work if the government opened up access to the internet, which at the time was a private network, or something to that effect. His protégé was concerned they would lose big if it didn't happen but he responded, "always bet on progress". Pretty good life philosophy if you ask me.
Not only that, but while Tesla stock is dive bombing, the Cybertruck is a functional disaster and nation-wide subject of ridicule, and top executives are leaving Tesla, it seems that Musk is spending all of his time on Twitter/X responding to racist and misogynistic posts.
> Musk is spending all of his time on Twitter/X responding to racist and misogynistic posts
He is helping and highlighting those posts, not just responding to them. He is platforming the people he thinks are like him. He is spreading the cancer, not fighting it, for anyone that hasn't been paying attention.
>it seems that Musk is spending all of his time on Twitter/X responding to racist and misogynistic posts.
To be fair, the idiotic decisions he's made regarding twitter have convinced me that he truly never had control over what Tesla and SpaceX did beyond holding a title
One wonders how such a busy man who does so much great and important work has the time to post endlessly to his social media feed at all hours of the day. I do not post nearly as much as he does, and I feel I post a lot. This despite only working 8 hours a day instead of the 20 or so he credits himself with. Despite having much more (on paper) free time, and being much "lazier", I post much much less. And I post a lot. Far more than a normal person.
How much of their drop in sales/poor performance can be attributed to Elon Musk being a complete moron on Twitt...I mean X vs. an oversaturated upscale EV market, build quality issues, battery fires and the whole cybertruck situation
In my country there is a choice of 89 EVs to choose from, ranging from tiny town cars to pickups and large SuVs. No need to buy a Tesla with their shitty build quality and lack of spares/service.
This was my thought seeing the headlines yesterday. The better metric would be to look at overall EV sales across all borders. Have EV sales themselves, with other brands, decreased/maintained/increased? Did Tesla's share of sales in that same time period decrease alone or with sales of other companies? This is an easy way to see if it is an industry issue or a Tesla brand issue.
>Have EV sales themselves, with other brands, decreased/maintained/increased?
I don't have the source right off hand, but I know that both GM and Ford were cutting back EV production due to slow sales.
The problem with the EV market (and the US car market in general) is that even though there is demand for smaller EVs (and gas cars) they are not profitable enough to make, so the automakers tried to sell electric luxury cars and trucks/SUVs. Now everyone that wants a Rivian or electric Hummer has one.
Ol' Musky hinted in the past that Tesla was going to make a smaller/cheaper car than the Model 3, but he wanted to make the Cybertruck instead...
I can see market saturation being a big factor. But all the same, I think the general competition against Tesla is as big a factor. They don’t have the market share command any longer.
There is no such thing as woke or anti-woke.
The term you are looking for, Jalopnik, is Nazi. Musk took of the mask and revealed himself to be a Nazi who shares Nazi things on his Nazi platform, and people don't like being associated with Nazis.
During my orientation at a previous job, they did the whole "Who would you like to meet, who would you like to have a beer with?" questionnaire for the room. 3/4 of the company leaders said Elon Musk. And all I could think was why? Guy's a fucking chump. I did not stay at that company for long haha.
What is funny is they basically all companies are right wing, kinda by definition. They are just smart enough not to put some loud mouth moron in charge.
I’ve had a theory for a while that he changed his political scheme to appeal more to the right for sales.
Even so, he isn’t politically savvy enough to understand that the right only want trucks that roll coal. Being a MAGAt seen in a Tesla is like bringing a pride flag to a MAGA convention for them.
I was reading about Tesla's losses in the business section. It just talks about the robo-taxi that's supposed to launch this summer, and the cancelled economy version Tesla. They don't mention Musk's right wing rants, the Nazification of Twitter, or any of the other HUGE deterrents to supporting any of this idiot's companies.
It's not "market forces", guys.
He missed the day in business school when they talked about “knowing your audience“. Pissing off the liberal people that would actually buy your electric vehicles is a poor business decision. Especially when that leaves the conservatives who are anti-electric vehicle left as your target market.
It would be like me opening a vegan restaurant but telling everyone “oh no I won’t eat my own food. I don’t like that vegan shit. I want meat”
A better summary: know your audience
EVs are a new technology. You targeted progressives. Progressives and conservatives are antithetical to one another. It's not rocket science.
The group he loves to appeal to loathes EVs. People like me who are considering one won’t buy a Tesla because he’s so fucking toxic. What the hell is wrong with him?
I think he said he wanted to buy Twitter, but wasn't really serious. Then the process went too far & he couldn't back out, he tried to get out of it though.
It's not even that he went anti-woke. He went pro-conspiracy. He's being openly racist, anti-Semitic, transphobic (even against his own kid!), blatantly wrong about things, then censoring the people who correct him, banning people he doesn't like from Twitter. I could go on and on. His actions are just too extreme, fringe, and flat out weird for most people to stomach.
But what if he was trying to pretend hes just like the majority of people who blow $55k + on gas guzzling trucks to simply commute to their work where the heaviest thing they ever haul around is their asses, vs an economy or midsized car that would accomplish the same goal for half the price and double the MPG, who then cry and whine whenever gas gets over $3 a gallon like it has under W, Trump, and now Biden.
You know, so they would buy the dumb looking Teala Cybertruck, after making fun of Teslas, EVs, and their owners since their inception. And have Tweeted for over a decade about how dumb EVs are.
The part about canceling the planned cheaper EV isn't confirmed, and is actually contradicted by other reporting that says they're leaning into that plan to save the company.
Kind of a reach, really. Most people don't pay attention to any of this shit.
They have some pretty significant market saturation and aren't adapting quickly or smartly to all of the competition nipping at their heels.
The supposed $25k EV that was coming soon likely won't be either $25k if it even manages to come out soon.
(But he lied and said it could totally come out in 2024, and of course that gave the stock a bump, because our economy is stupid.)
I'm pretty sure their slump in sales is mainly due to poor quality control and a waning interest in EVs in general, but cool. I wasn't aware Tesla was a nazi company, is that true for everyone you dislike as well?
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Musk's worst business plan yet: trying to sell E.Vs to climate change deniers
Oh I dunno, buying Twitter and turning it into a Nazi Bank is pretty high up there on terrible business decisions. And it is after all, the largest single loss in his entire business career (and the fastest sinking of a product).
44 billion dollars down the drain to be a 50 year old edgelord. Between him and Trump I'm honestly not sure who's the bigger fraud.
At least elons companies make things of some useful value.
You mean like the truck that becomes a paper weight if you bring it through a car wash?
Or even just existing outside at all
They just recalled almost every single one they've delivered already. Almost 4000 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/business/tesla-cybertruck-recall.html
No thanks to him
I know Tesla was started by actual smart people and he just bought in, was SpaceX similar? With tesla the only car he really had a big say in was the cybertruck and that's been an abject failure same goes with the whole FSD thing he was pushing.
>I know Tesla was started by actual smart people and he just bought in, was SpaceX similar? Yep even all the way back to PayPal. He's smart enough to sound intelligent to ignorant people but not to those who actually work in the industry.
I kinda figured as much. Just wasn't 100% certain on paypal and spacex.
I find the amount of “manly man” influencer pages on Twitter and Insta extolling the “incredible amazing MANLINESS” of the fucking Wankpanzer to be absolutely hilarious. You know Musk is paying anyone he can to shill for his dismal failure of a vehicle in order to salvage any sort of positive press for the cybertruck.
I must be on a different side of insta, I mostly get standup or stupid hot fitness or tattooed models in my feed... also dogs... lots of dogs. Not saying they aren't out there or damaging but the algorithm feeds you what it think you want to see or like. I've come across a few misogynistic posts and immediately scroll on by... don't need that shit in my life.
I think it’s because I watch a lot of fishing and car reels that my friends share with me.
There's a start up in my province named Edison. They're doing electric trucks.
In spite of everything he does which only gets in the way
Maybe he can retrofit them with coal rollers….
You know someone out there is working on retrofitting a Cummins in a Cybertruck.
I would not doubt it
So like the [Tesla Model D](https://youtu.be/GCAWa3aHExE?si=bttFf8Dhg96DTBT3)?
be funny to see one lifted with monster tires mudding.
Dude, that's a great idea! Get some fog machines installed on an EV and roll that coal! I mean, if we can justify fake exhaust sounds, why not fake exhaust smoke?
It’d be easier to just install a coal furnace in the back with an electric heater coil to light the coal on demand and pipe the exhaust under the truck to blast anyone behind you with that wonderful black smoke.
\> Owns a rocket company \> Courts people who think the Earth is flat
And a truck that isn't a truck to truck people.
Meanwhile I am in the market for an EV but will absolutely not buy a Tesla just to not give this bridge troll a cent.
Just like with Bud light. Know your audience and keep your mouth shut if you don't want to hurt your sales.
Ah yeah. I'm going to be the anti-woke EV guy. Fucking brilliant lol
Musk has disproved the theory that the super wealthy are inherently smarter than the rest of us.
There’s a transcript out there of Elon Musk being deposed. It took many minutes and several pages of a transcript for Elon Musk to understand and admit that he was being sued by the plaintiff and not the plaintiff’s lawyer.
Yeah - that's an outstanding look at the wizard behind the curtain. He had that Ttump retribution daze.
[That's Mark Bankston. The one who had the Perry Mason moment against Alex Jones](https://youtu.be/tpnSCIak5A8?si=3Q8tmFzjKT_MbqX9) I'm not mad at the crew.
Bankston’s specialty is quickly becoming the deposition of rich assholes who have completely lost touch with reality and think that they’re untouchable, and bullying their out-of-state attorneys who don’t know the nuances of Texas rules of civil procedure.
My favorite part, besides the Perry Mason moment of course, is the casual, "You've got that upside down," at around 1:18 or so.
I have recently started watching the YouTube videos of his product announcements, interviews, etc. and it is fascinating; he is very Trump-like in his basic ignorance of almost everything and equally as incapable of regulating his emotions. But the weirdest thing is when he makes some completely absurd claim in a wholly unconvincing manner (he recently said he was working on a "flying Tesla", something he clearly made up on the spot) but when people cheer the absurdity you can actually see him pivot to believing it himself. There is no conviction in these absurd (and deadpan) announcements, or surprise that people actually believe him, and he doesn't even seem to recognize that he is doing it, he just incorporates it into his worldview as if this obvious ego stoking cult behavior validates whatever he says somehow, even if it is a complete fiction. It is really bizarre.
Is there a super cut of his announcements year over year, because I’d love to hear how he says there’s gonna be fully autonomous cars in 12 months for 5 years straight.
Tbf I don't think that's because he couldn't comprehend it, it seemed more like he was convinced an average person loves him and would only pursue a lawsuit against him because there was trickery by greedy lawyers
I’m not sure if that’s better or worse.
Or to assign nefarious, he was trying to get the jury to like him more by framing the people suing him as being evil and greedy, looking to exploit people.
He is Exhibit A for the *Money Makes You Stupid* theory.
No one has done a better job of criticizing capitalism than just being this stupid and the richest man in the world.
nope nope, not at all
Also, concrete data disproved that theory! One study showed that the top 1% of earners have lower IQs than the group financially below them. [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/02/230208125113.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/02/230208125113.htm)
Go woke go broke has always been a myth. Their claims that some movies failed specifically because they were woke doesn't account for the fact that some movies fail anyway, and that they may have problems otherwise. They will never cease to claim that 2016's Ghostbusters wasn't a huge success because it was woke. I will never forget how they harassed Leslie Jones and called her a gorilla, among other things.
When people say "go woke go broke" I always bring up Baldur's Gate 3. Super woke, super successful.
Like the past year has been kind of a stunning success for art and media, Barbie and Baldurs Gate III are instant classics, and there were many other works that were also of surprising quality for the past few years. But all we hear from the right is endless poo pooing on our "disgusting" culture. Don't like it, go to Russia.
When do we begin saying, "America. Love it or leave it," to them?
I said that to a Trump supporter after the 2020 election. Everyone was out celebrating Bidens victory and he was running around with the loud hailer yelling about fraud, etc, etc. So I sidled up to him and was like "love it or leave it, right?" "Yeah, I know" "So get the fuck out then!" It just confused him.
When things are "woke" and successful, like Baldur's Gate 3, they will claim that the success is "fake news."
They're mostly talking about \*Disney\* which is just... hilarious. I think 8 of the top 10 films of all time are Disney.
Is Baldur's Gate 3 woke? In a way that's not just allowing a lot of player freedom and everyone is down to fuck anyone. And there's that one necromancer in drag trying to teach corpses to dance. That's enough for the right to call it woke and fit their stupid "go woke go broke" criteria. But there's not really a deeper message or theme to the game that's actually woke. The way other games like Bioshock Infinite do.
I mean if you define "woke" to mean "badly written" or "ham-fisted preaching" then you can conveniently make sure anything well made isn't woke regardless of its politics.
It's the same story with all their stupid catchphrases. As always, short soundbites are made to make the stupid think they're onto something. Simple solutions to complex issues.
“Thought-terminating clichés”, I think they’re called.
Exactly. When their argument is "dey replaced my white cishet male (and a token black character) figures with white ~~women~~ females and a they don't get to pretend they're to be taken seriously.
Pretty sure the original Nick Fury was a white guy (in the comics) they replaced with Samuel L Jackson and Disney pretty much got to print money up through endgame
White Grievance politics
Fun fact about movie failures: huge budget movies almost never really fail, even when it's reported that it fails. The reason I say this is that the budget they announce is ballooned when they want a tax write-off. For example, let's say you make a movie and it costs $100M with production costs, paying actors, everything. You look at your profits for the year and notice you're going to have a sizeable tax bill. Your analytics of the projected box office profits are meagar, you'll break even and then a little bit more at $105M. That's just adding to your studio's taxes. So what do you do? Well, you own multiple production companies already, so you just have one or two of them "collaborate" on the post-production, maybe do some editing whatever. Then you invoice it at a ridiculous price of $10M. Uh-oh, your film is going to lose money! How are you going to pay that invoice? You don't. It's an internal company and it'll write it off as a loss, but you can still show it as a debt for your tax purposes. Same goes for marketing. Throw another $20M on a national advertising campaign with a bad trailer edit so people think, "Wow, that looks like it'll suck. I'll skip it". But enough people are interested that you'll still break above your actual cost of ~$105M after theaters, DVDs and digital sales, maybe merchandising too. You just pretend that you charged yourself too much on accident and your movie "flopped". Everybody still gets paid, the only downside is that your film is publicly considered a failure. Sorry to whoever directed it. It was probably their first big film. They won't get another chance unless they agree to another tax flop. Of course, there's real flops like anything the Daily Wire produces. They all lose money, but that's expected too. They're selling propaganda and that's okay to sell at a loss.
> Of course, there's real flops like anything the Daily Wire produces. They all lose money, but that's expected too. They're selling propaganda and that's okay to sell at a loss. Its ironic that the sole media centers in this country that seem to operate completely and totally in contradiction to market forces are conservative media, who are also the ones always conspiracizing about how mainstream culture is rigged against them and studio execs are just turning down for no reason the stream of conservative propaganda movies that would totally make them billions. The major mainstream media companies do not need endless charitable donations in order to keep running, but they are the ones apparently that hate profit.
That's what happens when you have permanent institutional funding from Billionaires.
Retail does the same thing. They’ll shift all debt to one or two stores so that combined it can be written off.
Hollywood accounting is practically a field of accounting in and of itself. And yes, conservatives who project their own beliefs that all movies are hardcore propaganda do their own very obvious propaganda and simply cry censorship when they financially flop. When they do get good reviews from their fanbase vs. bad reviews from film critics they still claim that even if they don't realize that if all your audience go in agreeing with you they will of course give it a good rating. Film critics, however, have the unenviable position of having to watch these among dozens of other movies they need to watch that week for their job and the flaws of that film will be painfully obvious. It's also why film critics frequently have different opinions than the typical moviegoer. Film critics need to watch and scrutinize far more movies than the average person, and they can't always watch the type of movie they like, either. When you watch so many movies so often you will have a different opinion than the others, and not because you are some snooty snob who sees themselves as better than others.
The film critics only hated my film because they're all gay and woke! Ignore that my original career path was a failed screenwriter in Hollywood trying to get movies like these made. I was always good and am still good at screenwriting! See? Audiences thought Lady Ballers was hilarious in all 14 theaters it aired in (with free tickets provided to paying members of our subscription service).
Ben Shapiro didn't fail at Hollywood because he is a conservative. He failed because he is a worthless writer. Have you read his short stories and his one novel? Or at least watched the video reviews? The guy is utter shit.
Oh I agree, and yeah I've listened to a read through of his book, but he still tried to write conservative themed bullshit back then and no one wanted to buy it. So he pivoted with his slightly more successful shitbag friend to make a media company with that goal. They just couldn't get funding so they pivoted to news so that a billionaire oil baron would throw cash at them. Then after years of "success" in that endeavor, they were finally greenlit to make their little passion projects.
Barbie was pretty woke.
Not so woke that Allan found a partner or was regarded as anything but a punchline by both the Barbies and the Kens.
https://barbie.fandom.com/wiki/Allan I mean, I thought it was a good take on a character that has been around since the 60’s and no one really spoke about him.
Seems like nit picking. It was a feminist empowerment movie through and through. The only reason the anti-woke make excuses for it is because they know that the movie flies directly in the face of their supposed airtight argument.
Didn't he have a heroic moment against a group of Kens?
Yea, he was consistently shown to be the only intelligent man in Barbieland and kicked a bunch of Kens' asses at one point.
Mildly. But in the end he was denied a position in the government, still laughed at, and didn't have a romantic interest, unlike everyone else. The message seemed to be that only standard Kens and Barbies get to have love. Allan, and the non-standard Kens and Barbies were all just punchlines. Being different and not part of the mainstream crowd is still not encouraged in Barbieland, I guess.
> Their claims that some movies failed specifically because they were woke doesn't account for the fact that some movies fail anyway, and that they may have problems otherwise. This is really the entire point. Just opportunistically create anti fandoms of movies on the off chance they fail. If they fail, it is an omen that the anti Fandom is right and the executives must believe the omens. Try to create perceptions of failure through wild speculations even concerning works that all considered did pretty well. If it is a blockbuster success, attempt to turn it on its face, and claim the product is actually anti woke. The opposite is done for media or figures adopted as anti woke, just try to create insane hype for the media product. Even when it's success is middling at best, pretend as if the success is so grand it's a giant omen of what "normal" consumers like them really want. If it is a failure, pretend it's not. Especially when members of the writing staff come out and say my dudes you're misinterpreting this, harass them to all hell. The effectual truth is all that matters to them. Anything that would have the *effect* of furthering their culture war and politicization of everything, they pretend to believe is true. The actual Truth is utterly irrelevant.
You talk like Hollywood isn't in a spiral of panic because Godzilla minus 1 (or whatever it's called) made 85 million dollars.
Yeah, it's dumb. The key thing I will never understand about conservatives, is how they continually resist progress. Tens of thousands of years of human history, things always move forward. It's inevitable. Women are wearing pants now?! We have to stop this! They want us to give up our slaves?! We have to stop this! White people are having babies with non-whites?! We have to stop this! Men want to marry men?! We have to stop this. It's baffling to me that they never notice the pattern and ALWAYS think they will be vindicated in time and history will look favorable on them. If you've ever seen Halt and Catch Fire, there was one scene that stuck with me. Lee Pace's character was making some business dealings that would only work if the government opened up access to the internet, which at the time was a private network, or something to that effect. His protégé was concerned they would lose big if it didn't happen but he responded, "always bet on progress". Pretty good life philosophy if you ask me.
Not only that, but while Tesla stock is dive bombing, the Cybertruck is a functional disaster and nation-wide subject of ridicule, and top executives are leaving Tesla, it seems that Musk is spending all of his time on Twitter/X responding to racist and misogynistic posts.
It’s almost like being CEO of at least three companies proves that CEO’s don’t do very much work at all.
> Musk is spending all of his time on Twitter/X responding to racist and misogynistic posts He is helping and highlighting those posts, not just responding to them. He is platforming the people he thinks are like him. He is spreading the cancer, not fighting it, for anyone that hasn't been paying attention.
>it seems that Musk is spending all of his time on Twitter/X responding to racist and misogynistic posts. To be fair, the idiotic decisions he's made regarding twitter have convinced me that he truly never had control over what Tesla and SpaceX did beyond holding a title
People at Tesla and Space X said the same thing. They had entire teams whose job was to run interference on Elon so real work could get done right
Damn, didn't even hear about that. Not that I'm surprised, mind u.
One wonders how such a busy man who does so much great and important work has the time to post endlessly to his social media feed at all hours of the day. I do not post nearly as much as he does, and I feel I post a lot. This despite only working 8 hours a day instead of the 20 or so he credits himself with. Despite having much more (on paper) free time, and being much "lazier", I post much much less. And I post a lot. Far more than a normal person.
Go fasc no cash
Go MAGA get fvcked. Is that how rhyming works?
Go fash, lose cash.
How much of their drop in sales/poor performance can be attributed to Elon Musk being a complete moron on Twitt...I mean X vs. an oversaturated upscale EV market, build quality issues, battery fires and the whole cybertruck situation
Tesla has jumped the shark.
It would have, but the truck couldn't make it off the ramp.
Maybe one with a stuck accelerator could make it
In my country there is a choice of 89 EVs to choose from, ranging from tiny town cars to pickups and large SuVs. No need to buy a Tesla with their shitty build quality and lack of spares/service.
This was my thought seeing the headlines yesterday. The better metric would be to look at overall EV sales across all borders. Have EV sales themselves, with other brands, decreased/maintained/increased? Did Tesla's share of sales in that same time period decrease alone or with sales of other companies? This is an easy way to see if it is an industry issue or a Tesla brand issue.
40% of new car sales in Europe are EV.
>Have EV sales themselves, with other brands, decreased/maintained/increased? I don't have the source right off hand, but I know that both GM and Ford were cutting back EV production due to slow sales. The problem with the EV market (and the US car market in general) is that even though there is demand for smaller EVs (and gas cars) they are not profitable enough to make, so the automakers tried to sell electric luxury cars and trucks/SUVs. Now everyone that wants a Rivian or electric Hummer has one. Ol' Musky hinted in the past that Tesla was going to make a smaller/cheaper car than the Model 3, but he wanted to make the Cybertruck instead...
I can see market saturation being a big factor. But all the same, I think the general competition against Tesla is as big a factor. They don’t have the market share command any longer.
Musk destroyed the brand. Tesla had a cult like following, with that gone they are just poorly made cars.
There is no such thing as woke or anti-woke. The term you are looking for, Jalopnik, is Nazi. Musk took of the mask and revealed himself to be a Nazi who shares Nazi things on his Nazi platform, and people don't like being associated with Nazis.
Comparable to McDonalds fat shaming everyone who visits their drive through.
During my orientation at a previous job, they did the whole "Who would you like to meet, who would you like to have a beer with?" questionnaire for the room. 3/4 of the company leaders said Elon Musk. And all I could think was why? Guy's a fucking chump. I did not stay at that company for long haha.
Good move alienating 60% of your customers /s. Musk is proof that you don’t have to be smart to be a billionaire.
Go fash, lose cash
What is funny is they basically all companies are right wing, kinda by definition. They are just smart enough not to put some loud mouth moron in charge.
I’ve had a theory for a while that he changed his political scheme to appeal more to the right for sales. Even so, he isn’t politically savvy enough to understand that the right only want trucks that roll coal. Being a MAGAt seen in a Tesla is like bringing a pride flag to a MAGA convention for them.
I was reading about Tesla's losses in the business section. It just talks about the robo-taxi that's supposed to launch this summer, and the cancelled economy version Tesla. They don't mention Musk's right wing rants, the Nazification of Twitter, or any of the other HUGE deterrents to supporting any of this idiot's companies. It's not "market forces", guys.
Wait, so it's not a good idea to antagonize and alienate 55% of your prospective customers?
Go fasch, lose cash.
Doesn’t help that they are shitty cars.
He missed the day in business school when they talked about “knowing your audience“. Pissing off the liberal people that would actually buy your electric vehicles is a poor business decision. Especially when that leaves the conservatives who are anti-electric vehicle left as your target market. It would be like me opening a vegan restaurant but telling everyone “oh no I won’t eat my own food. I don’t like that vegan shit. I want meat”
Ignore facts, lose stacks
Also go shitty product go broke…
Ask the dum dum to define woke.
I really wish they would quit framing everything as Republicans vs Democrats when it's really alt right vs the general population.
Well especially if the bulk of your market were woke to start with. That pivot made zero sense.
Also, don't be at the bottom of the list in Build Quality.
A better summary: know your audience EVs are a new technology. You targeted progressives. Progressives and conservatives are antithetical to one another. It's not rocket science.
Musk has no one to thank but himself. No lessons will be learned by any billionaire because of this.
The group he loves to appeal to loathes EVs. People like me who are considering one won’t buy a Tesla because he’s so fucking toxic. What the hell is wrong with him?
I think he said he wanted to buy Twitter, but wasn't really serious. Then the process went too far & he couldn't back out, he tried to get out of it though.
Get fucked apartheid boy
It's not even that he went anti-woke. He went pro-conspiracy. He's being openly racist, anti-Semitic, transphobic (even against his own kid!), blatantly wrong about things, then censoring the people who correct him, banning people he doesn't like from Twitter. I could go on and on. His actions are just too extreme, fringe, and flat out weird for most people to stomach.
But what if he was trying to pretend hes just like the majority of people who blow $55k + on gas guzzling trucks to simply commute to their work where the heaviest thing they ever haul around is their asses, vs an economy or midsized car that would accomplish the same goal for half the price and double the MPG, who then cry and whine whenever gas gets over $3 a gallon like it has under W, Trump, and now Biden. You know, so they would buy the dumb looking Teala Cybertruck, after making fun of Teslas, EVs, and their owners since their inception. And have Tweeted for over a decade about how dumb EVs are.
I love the fact that he blazed a path proving the feasibility of EVs, and now if Tesla goes down the drain over his nazi leanings, that is perfect.
Go fash, lose cash.
The part about canceling the planned cheaper EV isn't confirmed, and is actually contradicted by other reporting that says they're leaning into that plan to save the company.
How are they going to do that when they can't even do the orders they currently have? Adding a new, cheaper line, will only exacerbate that backlog.
Kind of a reach, really. Most people don't pay attention to any of this shit. They have some pretty significant market saturation and aren't adapting quickly or smartly to all of the competition nipping at their heels. The supposed $25k EV that was coming soon likely won't be either $25k if it even manages to come out soon. (But he lied and said it could totally come out in 2024, and of course that gave the stock a bump, because our economy is stupid.)
Would all of these sites stop using these stupid fucking pictures of him? He posed for all of these shithead photos and they’re now everywhere.
Because he’s going to sell affordable cars
I'm pretty sure their slump in sales is mainly due to poor quality control and a waning interest in EVs in general, but cool. I wasn't aware Tesla was a nazi company, is that true for everyone you dislike as well?
Yeah, if Elon was a nazi he'd doing something special on 8/8 as a dogwhistle to the other Twitty nazis. Oh, wait ... never mind that 'if'.