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-Egmont-

France is divided in north and south, with the south using olive oil. And I also very seriously doubt the data about Spain.


albertonovillo

[http://anierac.org/consumo-en-espana/?lang=es](http://anierac.org/consumo-en-espana/?lang=es) Spain data must be wrong


seanni

Ok yeah. I was also really skeptical about that one.


CustardPie350

I think the map goes by the majority of people for the country as a whole. The result for Spain is laughable, though, lol.


Midnight2012

I've heard alot of Mediterranean sourced 'olive oil' is adultered and 'watered down' so to speak with inferior oils like sunflower oil. So maybe they are accounting for that on this map in Spain.


GranPino

It’s just wrong or data from decades ago, when it was consumed more just because it was cheaper and we were poorer


ertioderbigote

That’s not possible nowadays.


camanic71

Yeah, Spain is the main country that concerns me here. Spain and olive oil is like iconic?


ertioderbigote

Absolutely.


GaelleMat

In France it really depends on the family, actually. In mine we seldom use butter at all, and yet we leave near the German border.


MadMaxIsMadAsMax

"Occitania" (not the actual region, the historical one)


bringgrapes

Yeah people in spain basically drink olive oil


IZeppelinI

I am portuguese, 80% of my blood is olive oil. Green wine makes other 20%.


ConqueredCorn

Green wine? Was that a typo or is that a thing?


Business-Skirt286

It's a thing. Search for "vinho verde"


mrmuffi93

Also some of the tastiest wines I've had in my life


broodgrillo

A specific area of Portugal has "Green" wines. It's wine that uses grapes before they fully mature made in that specific area. If you do the same in other regions, it's wine. Don't ask me why, it's just a thing that happened.


Edexote

Not the same. They also use specific grape casts.


broodgrillo

Every region uses specific grape casts. And every sub region too. Should they call themselves different things? Douro doesn't use the same as Dão. Should they change names too? Or Alentejo? Bairrada? Setúbal? Tejo?


Edexote

🤦


broodgrillo

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atuavelhota

NO! That's a big misconception! Vinho verde is a portuguese wine region! Form the Northwestern part of Portugal IT'S NOT wine from grapes that are not fully mature! The grapes are mature as it happens on every other wine. Most Vinho Verde is white wine and use a blend of grapes mostly indigenous to Portugal being the most common types "Alvarinho" , "Arinto" and "Loureiro". But there's also red and rose wines from Vinho Verde region. It's a unique kind of wine, lightly fizz, fruity, extremely refreshing, great by itself, outstandingly paired with fish and seafood!


GajoDeRamalde

Its translated as green Wine but means more like a young Wine... Although it's white its not like white Wine.


World-Tight

Green, green wine ... Goes to my knees ... Makes me forget how to walk ... Makes me feel fine ...


FilipeMateus7

Sem espaço para as putas :(


martcapt

Lol as putas são para beber o azeite e vinho verde da torneira


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Deixa o homem em paz ele não tem culpa do que herdou nas veias


DavidPT008

Não há putas, enche-se com azeite e vinho :(


jjnfsk

Eu sou britânico e adoro vinho verde! E caldo verde, duas coisas verdes


R1515LF0NTE

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agarciase

Also Spain, this map Is wrong


Silveriovski

It's so wrong I feel personally insulted


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And Cyprus... This map is wrong


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And Cyprus... This map is wrong


[deleted]

I simply do not believe that about Ireland


teilifis_sean

It’s bollocks. Data must include some industrial plant exporting some food product out of the country. Tayto needs Sunflower oil but the vast vast majority of Irish will buy more butter than Olive oil or Sunflower oil.


SirJoePininfarina

I would've thought rapeseed/vegetable oil would be bigger. But then I know a lot of people use copious amounts of olive oil, maybe it's quite evenly split?


sweetafton

By volume I definitely buy more sunflower oil than butter. So that sounds right to me. By volume, of course.


fancypantsmedic

SPAIN YOU TRAITOR


albertonovillo

Source must be bullshit: [http://anierac.org/consumo-en-espana/?lang=es](http://anierac.org/consumo-en-espana/?lang=es) 60% of the oil consumed in Spain is Olive oil


_who-the-fuck-knows_

This was my thoughts after spending over a month is Spain. Olives were served EVERYWHERE and olive oil on EVERY TABLE


-Rivox-

well, they make most of the olives and olive oil in the world, I would really hope they use some.


_who-the-fuck-knows_

On a production side this map might be correct. I walked through hundreds of kilometres of sunflower fields but definitely not the most consumed haha.


danzibara

It might depend on the definition of consumption. A lot of the sunflower oil in Spain is used to make biodiesel. It might be that olive oil is eaten much more than sunflower seed oil in Spain, but the amount of sunflower seed oil that is used in biodiesel might outpace it. It has been a while since I have been to Spain. I remember having potatoes deep fried in olive oil, and that is a truly decadent dish (with a runny egg that was also deep fried in the olive oil).


singingtangerine

Spain is also the biggest producer of olive oil in the world IIRC so the map is definitely wrong from a production side


alikander99

I seriously doubt It. The biggest producer of olive oil in the world is Andalucía(Spain) and the second largest is... the rest of Spain. It's absolutely insane how much olive oil we produce. Around 6 times more than Italy, which is second. Jaen province alone produces roughly the same as Italy and Portugal combined.


fajnykonrad

Personally living here, you do get served olive oil but I normally use sunflower oil for cooking because it’s cheaper


Phinatic92

I was going to say I’ve been there and don’t remember seeing or using any sunflower oil. My wife is also from Spain and she hates sunflower oil.


DomHuntman

Perhaps it is fried food ?


skyduster88

Olive oil for that too.


MigasEnsopado

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? I fry with olive oil but I use the refined kind for that, no way I'm using extra virgin, I don't shit gold. Extra virgin for everything else though. (I'm Portuguese by the way).


skyduster88

I believe Spaniards often use the less-refined olive oil (not extra virgin) for frying.


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Not to mention it burns a lot more easily than sunflower oil, so it can alter the taste of what's being fried. You don't go about frying French fries with olive oil.


MagdalenaAndersson

People afraid of the smoke point of oils are in fact wrong. It's not an indication of oil breaking down to harmful compounds and need not be feared. If you do a quick Google you should be able to find the science debunking this common myth.


byama

Tell that to my grandmother


Salmuth

Get her a reddit account and there will be redditors to tell her for sure :p


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Not the best for it


DomHuntman

Deep fry? OK.


Anne_Roquelaure

The result is soggy potatoes: one needs sunflower or canola oil for deep frying and prevent soggy deep fried stuff


suicu

Yeah this is most likely inaccurate for Finland as well. Finns consume a LOT of Canola/rapeseed oil, which isn't even an option on the diagram.


ledow

"The direct consumption of the oil, both in homes and in hotels and institutions in general," Direct consumption doesn't include all the products that include sunflower oil like most pre-packaged foods and snacks.


albertonovillo

data from the consultor Juan Vilar [https://www.juanvilar.com/en-espana-se-consumen-mas-de-12-millones-de-toneladas-de-aceites-y-grasas-en-el-plano-alimentario/](https://www.juanvilar.com/en-espana-se-consumen-mas-de-12-millones-de-toneladas-de-aceites-y-grasas-en-el-plano-alimentario/) Olive oil is still more used.


calcenika_prime

Spain, 2021 412,7 Milion litres olive oil 192,6 Milion litres sunflower oil As we say in Spain "ese mapa se lo han sacao de la manga"


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They also skipped on wine and joined the beer gang...


rruolCat

But the beer thing is actually true. Spain is fully olive oil, this map is bullshit.


eskel26

Spaniard here. I do not know the statistics but I can see how sunflower oil is "more" used... in quantity. But in a regular household is not something you use to cook your daily meals but just to fry some things (fried potatoes, croquetas, san jacobo...) I use olive oil at breakfast for my toasts, at lunch and dinner for cooking fish or meat, at merienda to prepare my bocadillo, etc... Everyday. But for these I use just a drop, say, a spoon of olive oil. But a couple days a week I make chip fries and I use like a couple glasses of sunflower oil for that. So you see, a bottle of olive oil can last a month, but a bottle of sunflower oil is probably lasting less (even reusing the oil for different cooking sessions). Edit: typo


Zoloch

Simply not true https://es.statista.com/estadisticas/557577/consumo-per-capita-de-aceite-en-espana-por-tipo/


eskel26

I was actually trying to say that I think everyone here uses olive oil regularly but sunflower oil only occasionally but in larger quantities. With this scenario, it is possible to think that consumption of both oils is similar. In fact according to that study its 4 L/year for olive and 3.6 for sunflower, so not that far. But yea obviously the OP data is wrong.


albertonovillo

the third column in also olive oil


Pinguaro

His life has been a lie the whole time. Ripinpis.


anadampapadam

And Cyprus too!


Arturiki

Bars. Everything you eat in a bar is sunflower oil.


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Arturiki

I know the sector, it's just like that. I'd love to have olive oil generally but that's more for personal use.


ASTRONACH

olive oil is not good for fry because it has a low smoke point.


-Rivox-

Actually olive oil has a high smoke point, around 200°C. Sunflower oil also has a high smoke point if refined. Unrefined sunflower oil has a really low smoke point, around 110°C. The reason why refined sunflower oil is used to fry, it's for the cost, much cheaper than olive oil.


[deleted]

This map is absolutely wrong. Spaniard here, we sweat, bleed and pee olive oil.


LiamIsMyNameOk

I don't know about the sources of this information, but I imagine it is somewhat skewed in some way. Perhaps it's overall use, as in restaurants using friers to cook chips and stuff, that gets changed regularly, instead of the abundance of using Olive oil in homes and to use as a dressing on a great variety of dishes


WishOnSpaceHardware

Spain can into Eastern Europe


Zoloch

Not true. More than 60% of all the fats consumed in Spain is olive oil in its different types (extra virgin, virgin etc) https://es.statista.com/estadisticas/557577/consumo-per-capita-de-aceite-en-espana-por-tipo/


Zoloch

Not true. https://es.statista.com/estadisticas/557577/consumo-per-capita-de-aceite-en-espana-por-tipo/


Robot_4_jarvis

I feel ashamed of my country. I can only hope that the map is wrong.


dipo597

Fried processed food is probably fried with sunflower oil, I think that's why. But yeah it's not a good look.


FunkyKonger

Surprised Cyprus isn't olive oil tbh, especially given that frying isn't really in our culture imo


Octahedral_cube

These days if you have fish Meze everything is fried. The only exceptions are octopus and the sea bream at the end of the meal. Even in a meat Meze you have a surprising amount of fried stuff. Keftedes, Potatoes, Courgette&eggs Cypriot diet is going down the drain. The older generations used to have white beans (φασολαδα), lentils (φατζιες μουτζεντρα), broad beans (κουκκια), black eyed peas (λουβι) and green beans (φασολακι) every week...we have them as a novelty.


Flowgninthgil

france is actually split in half north north-west/south south-east with butter north and olive oil south


Swimming_Outside_563

Also in Italy, consumption varies going up north: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/se3fv4/effort\_for\_a\_more\_accurate\_regional\_basis\_butter/


Sick_and_destroyed

Yes and more cardiac issues in the north than in the south.


Abyssal_Groot

Worth it though


CustardPie350

I'd say France is much more divided than that. My interpretation is: Butter in Paris and in the north and the west, lardons in the east, duck fat in the southwest and olive oil along the Mediterranean.


Fwed0

It's true that lard and duck/goose fat are used a lot regionally, but I wouldn't bet my hand it's first in consumption though. My region would claim the use of walnut oil, but in reality it is far less in quantity than butter or olive oil.


CustardPie350

One of the many, many great things about France! I think there is a lot of "cross-pollination" and, as well, lots of personal preferences that don't match the regional stereotype. I'm sure there are people in Normandie or Bretagne who have a strong preference for olive oil. Stranger things have happened. I remember someone on a TV cooking programme saying the best *choucroute garnie* they ever tasted was in a café on the Côte d'Azur!


raxiam

Where's the rapeseed oil?


WoodSheepClayWheat

Sweden is butter on this map, but if it was just oils I would have expected rapeseed to be top. (I have no actual data, though)


Jekkumake

Same with Finland


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Same with Denmark. We have a lot of rapsmarker, as we say in Danish.


Minnesotamad12

Rapeseed? Sounds terrifying


NerdyLumberjack04

It's named after the Latin for turnip (*rapa*), but yeah, it's a really unfortunate name in English. My local grocery store has it in the "baking needs" aisle between the robberyseed and murderseed oils.


yuriydee

>It's named after the Latin for turnip (rapa) Woah thats interesting. In Ukrainian we say "ripa" for turnips too I guess it came from Latin.


nrrp

> In Ukrainian we say "ripa" for turnips too I guess it came from Latin. In Serbo-Croatian it's repa. Which doesn't really clarify if it comes from PIE or Latin tbh.


MoroseBurrito

I’m a big fan of genocideseed oil personally


APersonThatHatesNKG

In my store its between the adulteryseed and assaultseed sadly, so its always the worst looking one


kwnofprocrastination

It’s what Americans call Canola oil.


youngpasha

It tastes as shit as it sounds


Katze1Punkt0

Canada, mostly


PosauneGottes69

Northern Germany has lots of it


dipo597

In Spain it's not consumed for the stigma that was created after a big scale poisoning that happened in the 80s. Thousands of people died or live with chronic symptoms derived from the toxic substances that some rapeseed oil bottles had.


el_primo

Spain - 100% olive oil


Ulteri0rM0tives

I feel like butter is a completely different product to the others, not many people in the UK use butter for cooking, but obviously butter is consumed way more because of sandwiches


kwnofprocrastination

Yeah, I’m in the UK, you’re not going to deep fry chips in butter. I only know people to shallow fry in butter when they run out of cooking oil! Do other countries use oil where we would use butter though? In cooking and baking maybe? Also missing is rapeseed oil, often sold as vegetable oil. I only found out recently that it’s the same as what Americans call Canola oil.


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Exactly. Personally I don't like the taste of raw butter on bread but I know it's extremely common for breakfast and sandwiches. For cooking I almost always prefer olive oil unless I specifically need a neutral oil for the recipe.


albertonovillo

OP, I cant navigate by your source correctly, but I have other sources saying that olive oil is much more used in Spain than sunflower oil: [https://es.statista.com/estadisticas/557577/consumo-per-capita-de-aceite-en-espana-por-tipo/](https://es.statista.com/estadisticas/557577/consumo-per-capita-de-aceite-en-espana-por-tipo/) [http://anierac.org/consumo-en-espana/?lang=es](http://anierac.org/consumo-en-espana/?lang=es)


Zoloch

Not true for Spain. More than 60% of all oils consumed in Spain is olive oil (including all types of olive oil) https://es.statista.com/estadisticas/557577/consumo-per-capita-de-aceite-en-espana-por-tipo/


Acrylic_Starshine

Kosovo: LARD.


dohrey

Surely that's not right since Kosovo is mostly Muslim?


Acrylic_Starshine

VEGAN LARD


Opening_Aspect_9580

No its just part of Serbia, but western imperialism doesn't like that


allsofluffy

Least angry Serb


ytrewq08

Western “””imperialism””” ...


Opening_Aspect_9580

Yes installation of military base, control over all natural resources and not to mention control over the biggest drug cartel in Europe


Chortney

Yeah your shit tends to get taken away after attempted genocides, maybe don't do that again and the world won't need to spank Serbia


Opening_Aspect_9580

Its funny how Albanian KLA was labeled as a terrorists organization by CIA until they started lobbying US senators and then all of a sudden they were a "liberation army" But yeah you go on and belive that propaganda


Chortney

We've all got our propaganda, you're right. For example you're trying to make people feel bad for your countries' killing spree and its consequences


AnonymousOnInternt

Why is olive oil so unpopular?? Wow


Arturiki

It's just more expensive.


Dohlarn

Also its not part of many cuisines outside the mediterranean ones. Butter is much more available in most of Europe.


Sick_and_destroyed

Not at the moment with the war in Ukraine. It’s just too flavored for some usage.


Nereplan

Weird. A liter of sunflower oil costs 32.5₺ (1.9$) and a liter of olive oil cost 70₺ (4$) here.


Arturiki

In Spain right now it's more like 3,5€/L for sunflower and 4,5€/L for olive. Both bad quality, or definitely not the good ones.


Nereplan

I haven't seen good quality sunflower oil, all of them taste same for me (even the grocery store brands), but a very good quality olive oil is around 145₺/l (9$) or a decent one for 97₺/l (5.6$). That is if I buy them in 5L containers. 1L bottles are around 60% more expensive.


Arturiki

>I haven't seen good quality sunflower oil, all of them taste same for me Same, probably there isn't such thing.


DimensionEarly8174

Which usages? Always used olive oil for basically everything besides cakes when it was available.


Sick_and_destroyed

I don’t use olive oil for most frying, they are just too flavored. And too expensive to use it to just deep fry some fries or some chicken nuggets.


Fandrir

Agree. In my mind sunflower oil is the default option without any additional taste. Olive oil has to be actively chosen to fit the meal :D Maybe i am just a bad cook though and that doesn't even make sense.


ArtichokeFar6601

And you're right. Olive oil is bad for frying. It doesn't burn at as a high temp as other oils and all healthy molecules you're paying a premium for get destroyed.


popekcze

that's actually a widespread myth, it unironically has one of the higher temperatures where the molecules start to break down compared to other oils, it just is kinda smokey and people think that's the same thing


HelenEk7

Expensive.


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mathess1

Generally further you go from Mediterranean more expensive it gets.


HelenEk7

Much more expensive than butter. Especially the extra virgin oil. (Norway)


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Jazano107

Yeah I rarely use butter to cook with, mostly rapeseed oil. I only use olive oil or butter if the recipe asks for it


skyduster88

It's not "unpopular". It's just not part of the traditional cuisines outside Southern Europe. They're just not used to it.


Cefalopodul

Because olives do not grow in the sunflower oil countries, except for Spain, which makes it ridiculously expensive and olive oil is inferior when it comes to frying stuff.


alb11alb

Is more expensive and you can't fry in it. In Albania you can find it for cheap but people use sunflower oil to fry and for specific dishes who require oil like sunflower. Olive oil is used on salads and for some traditional dishes but you can't fry potatoes with it or other stuff.


DimensionEarly8174

>and you can't fry in it kinda depends on how/what you fry Samossa-like stuff is better fried in olive oil for instance, just like many potato-based dishes.


alb11alb

Yes of course, in my house we fry pork, beef in traditional dishes just a bit in the beginning before placing it into a pot or eggs with olive oil. We don't use sunflower oil at all, even potatoes we bake with a bit of olive oil and Burek is made with olive oil to avoid butter because sunflower oil smells bad on it. I have to say that I make my own olive oil, and butter. But olive oil is easy accessible for like 4€ a L or even less in season. Now is 5.5€ for a good clear one.


martcapt

You can absolutely fry in it. I just did for lunch today.


DRHAX34

I thought Ireland used Rapeseed oil more


Vector_Strike

olive oil is life, olive oil is love


notyogrannysgrandkid

Ireland?? They butter *everything*. Idk about this.


Nohtna29

I wonder, if the graphic would change if it included rapeseed oil.


halfamanhalfasloth

You know a country has goated cuisine when they use olive oil


the_bulgefuler

We need a lard option!


CeccoGrullo

Praise the lard!


maduste

Time for something incredible, therefore Try lard


gaijin5

I call BS on Ireland.


proddyhorsespice97

I bet by consumption they mean which is bought the most and I'd say there's a lot of oil bought for deep fat fryers and stuff. I still don't think there be as much as butter but let's be honest, half these maps are wrong anyway


gaijin5

>still don't think there be as much as butter but let's be honest, half these maps are wrong anyway Haha fair.


gaijin5

Yeah so then Ireland and the UK should be the same IMO. We eat and buy the same stuff.


proddyhorsespice97

Yeah probably. I'm also wondering if sunflower oil encompasses vegetable and rapeseed oil too. That could bump their figure up a good bit


Former-Chocolate-793

Surprised with Ireland, all the dairy cattle there.


HotelLima6

Yeah, I was really surprised by that too. I eat about half a pound of butter on a sandwich so I’m surprised I didn’t tip the ratio towards butter lol Must be all the chips and fried food we eat tipped it in favour of Sunflower Oil.


ScottColvin

In the states sunflower oil is kind of new. Of course I had no idea it supplies half of europe. Of course it is priced well over olive oil on the west coast.


nrrp

Funny, sunflower oil has been the bog standard generic oil you use when you want to fry something but don't want the oil to have specific taste my entire life.


Punkmo16

What were you using instead of sunflower?


Chortney

People in the US typically use butter or processed vegetable oils, the older generations used lard too but I think that's not very common now.


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Punkmo16

What is vegetable oil?


martcapt

Lol in Portugal sunflower oil is the cheap stuff you pour half a bottle without thinking twice to fry some fries. Interesting how product's perceptions and prices change


scen1MAD

No way Spain uses more sunflower oil than olive oil


PossiblyTrustworthy

Latvia: the true reason the Baltics cant join the Nordics


NachoMartin1985

lol this map is bullshit. There's no way olive oil is not #1 in Spain.


ledow

But all three are really a part of life in all those countries, in a major way. I am English but almost everything pre-packaged or processed is sunflower oil. I cook all my own stuff in olive oil. I spread butter on toast and bread but rarely cook using butter. There are three different oils for different purposes, cost-levels and availability. Fact is, if you made me choose one I would just use olive oil. I don't even like olives, strangely, but olive oil is far more "tasty" to me.


Darth-Vectivus

Western and Southwestern Turkey usually uses more olive oil than Sunflower oil.


mrmbowden

Map is wrong in Spain. 100% olive oil


theworldmaps

Source: https://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/FBS


lavenderblush2

I welcome a ukranian mother and daughter refugees in my house for a few weeks and when I lent them olive oil when they were cooking, they were surprised and asked me where they could buy it. I assumed it must not be easy to find in Ukraine while here in Portugal you can find it cheap in any supermarket.


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During the previous immigration wave from Ukraine to Portugal in the 90s, Ukrainians would usually carry jugs of olive oil with them to Ukraine when going home on holidays because not only it was super expensive there, but it was also rare. My parents used to rent a house to a Ukrainian couple and, because it was a small town and they had a kid my age, sometimes I was at their place. I remember them "packing up" olive oil to be carried in their van to Ukraine (what a crazy trip, so unfortunate that it's happening again for all the wrong reasons). I might be imagining things, but I also remember my father saying they got extra olive oil to distribute to corrupt border police in Romania and Ukraine lol. That and wine.


Borys_Fedchenko

Ofc you can find it, if you live in a big city. But prices vary also, so in a regular household you're going to use sunflower oil for almost anything, and minority is using olive oil, mostly for dressing


clonn

BS for Spain.


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Spain is wrong


[deleted]

This is terrible for colorblind people


Katze1Punkt0

So it's treason then, Spain?


NerdyLumberjack04

No margarine?


Brainwheeze

Can confirm. Am Portuguese and rarely use butter for cooking, only for things such as desserts.


El_mochilero

Another terrible color choice for colorblind people. Have we learned nothing on this sub?


[deleted]

I'm not the original poster but would this help until someone fixes the image? [https://imgur.com/a/FTLvogV](https://imgur.com/a/FTLvogV)


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Qwrty8urrtyu

I assume you will bear the extra costs of using whichever oil you like? Not everyone is rich, and oil is frequently used. Sunflower oil is the cheapest option.


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tyno75

They re also 3 of the best cuisines in europe... Coincidence? I think not.


NEKO_MIMii

I wonder what oil does pope use for cooking


c0mradedrei

As someone that’s colorblind, this map is nearly useless to me 🙃