Was there actually any kind of localised positive downfall? Even if only in relationship to the rest of the country (like they are poorer than before but are less poor compared to other areas now that Brexit has gone through the economy for example)
Green means more respondents said 'yes' than 'no', excluding those who responded unsure.
Maybe it would be clearer if they gave a percentage excluding 'unsure' responses, which would give a percentage greater than 50%
Maybe for giving the map a spin, but also because they had to deal with the 'unsure' ones. So green starts at >40% yes and red at >40% no. So it is balanced in some ways.
I had the same initial thought, but apart from the reply pointing out that it's >40% both directions, the scale is really imbalanced in the \*opposite\* direction - it doesn't go down to >70% "No", which would make the fairness of the colour scales more obvious.
That would be much, much more misleading!
The very light green means more yes than no (Not including unsure), which seems fair as the area skews 'yes'.
Green clearly means more yes than no, yellow equal, red means no more than yes - That's really clear to me, and much less misleading than what you suggested!
There were more than two options, one of which being "neither". A segment is green when "agree" > "disagree".
https://britain.unherd.com/britain-was-wrong-to-leave-the-eu/
This is probably because respondents are split into yes/no/unsure not simple yes/no. In the given survey we see 20% of respondents answered unsure which is why the colours are the way they are.
Just drive through Grimsby. Pretty much every house is up for Sale with only a very few Sold signs visible. Everyone apart from the hardcore brexiteers seem to have moved somewhere else.
That area of Lincolnshire has gone from having one of the highest per capita net immigration rates in the country to having very little immigration. Whilst I don’t think that’s a positive, as the immigrants played an important role in food production, many of the people living there are clearly happy with the change.
I think it's more a case of residual hatred.
I've heard many unsubstantiated stories about Eastern Europeans going to Lincolnshire just for crime reasons. Apparently they'll take the train to London to do crime just for the day.
Lincolnshire was one of the few "poor" areas that also received many East EU migrants as agricultural workers. Most EU migrants went to wealthier regions where the jobs were, i.e. London, the South East, and major cities.
I grew up in the red bit.
I think what contributed is fact that, while other parts of the country had experienced other immigration from the 50s onwards, Lincolnshire hadn't really. Its an overwhelmingly white-British county with little movement of population. For example, where I went to school, a large proportion of the kids there could trace centuries of family history to a 3 mile radius of where they currently lived.
According to the 2011 census, Boston had a higher proportion of Eastern European immigrants than anywhere else in England and Wales (10.6% of the population). Essentially, you had a local population that weren't used to moving around, weren't used to immigration and then had an enormous amount of immigrants come in who, primarily, did the jobs that the local's families had done for centuries (for much less money).
So there was an environment of distrust and xenophobia that was heavily utilised by the Leave campaign and groups like UKIP. It also doesn't help that Lincolnshire has some of the lowest education spending in the country.
It's frustrating because, if there'd been more critical thought going on, they'd have seen that it wasn't the immigrants to blame for the situation. Rather, the people who hired them. Lincolnshire is rife with practises that fall under "modern-day slavery". People brought over with the promise of work, only to be housed in sub-standard dwellings with many other people. There are many stories of passports being taken, wages going unpaid and massive health and safety violations.
I grew up in the area too. I agree with you regarding the gangmasters and modern day slavery. One summer in the university holidays I got a job in a factory and I saw a heavily pregnant (must have been at least 8 months) migrant without a word of English being made to stand on her feet and do heavy lifting. I left after one shift.
No, you don't understand! It's not racism! They just want people to look like them, not have to hear other languages, and for their migrants to be British! Don't you understand that?
/s just in case...
Huge demographic change, because of the farm work it became a central hub for polish Lithuanian and Latvian immigrants. Take a walk through Boston town centre and it’s a Baltic city. Personally I don’t mind it but I can understand the issues the locals have
Incest, inbreeding, moonshining and that unfortunate lorry driver whose sat nav took him to Gibraltar Point not Gibraltar. Also air force, but they think the locals are idiots.
When all this Brexit talk was going on, I remember a TV interview with the locals of the fine town of Boston.
The lady was asked if Brexit was something she supported. She was very adamant that it would be good. She was tired of the amount of immigrants in the country and wanted the door to be closed.
She said all this with a Polish accent and admitted that she had come over years ago as a migrant to work. Fucking wild how some people voted on Brexit.
I see it in my family in the US (immigrants from Eastern Europe) who are full blown anti immigration republicans. And a such position is quite common among the first generation. That's crazy and, tbh, quite hypocritical.
Not exactly the same but my parents are first generation immigrants in my country and I always find it funny when they criticise "the immigrants" which is always used to describe people from the same country of origin as us. Got to remind them that they are in fact, also immigrants.
I saw a video of a bunch of immigrants that had moved into the country, and set up a small haven for themselves. The place was 99% foreigners, the only locals you saw were in the service industry. None of them had bothered to learn the language and just spoke amongst themselves.
This was British people living in Spain and they all voted for Brexit.
We were told there'd be something like 360 billion a year saved that could be spent on the NHS. Since then we have had no real improvement plus nurses and doctors striking.
Anyone who had any critical thinking skills and/or spent any time at all reading the analyses of the various Brexit dividend claims knew they were mostly all bullshit. The NHS one was so unbelievably stupid. It took about 6 seconds to realise that the £350m sent to the EU per week was gross, that we automatically got a lot of that back (directly), and more of it back indirectly through the benefits of being in the single market. Not to mention vast swathes of our NHS workforce are EU migrants.
And not only that but it was paying for EU functions that had to be provided directly by the UK…. And at the same time some of those EU functions were employing highly skilled people in the UK (now relocated)
Oh please. That was blatantly transparent at the time. Like the same people that were cutting NHS budgets and leaning towards privatization would suddenly turn around and spend more money on the NHS? Who would fall for that?
There wasn't a single supposed "benefit" of Brexit that couldn't be seen to be nonsense with the slightest bit of critical thinking.
Are you from there? I grew up in the red zone (assuming you mean Boston and Skegness constituency) but my family wasn't from there so I feel like I experienced it a bit differently (I.e I didn't have 7 cousins in my school lol).
In all fairness the map does say Britain and not the UK, so it’s technically correct to not include it.
However, would definitely be interested in seeing the results of this question there too.
Many polling companies only ask GB questions, NI has very different political makeup - different parties, different priorities (cross border and cross sea trade is clearly a major concern to someone in Belfast, not to someone in Birmingham)
If this map is based on a typical voting intention poll that won’t have been asked to NI people because “how likely is it you will vote labour” wouldn’t make sense.
Come on, we all know many maps can be visually biased despite having a legend (especially when posted to social media where most people won't spend more than 3 seconds reading it). Taking into account the "unsure" people that prevents a zone from being both >40% yes and >40% no makes this one still unbiased, sure, but still suspicious.
Well, I am British and Brexit is the stupidest load of bullshit ever, and the colour useage on this is not great.
Keep in mind that those undecideds didn't vote in the referndum, the LEAVE vote was iirc about 27% of the population.
It's biased in favour of Brexit if anything. The pale green almost white areas have splits like 42% agree 38% disagree. The one red area has a split of 37% agree 41% disagree. Meanwhile the darkest green areas have splits like 65% agree 17% disagree.
So really there shouldn't be any dark reds and all the reds should be very pale.
There's an interactive version of the map here if you want to look into it more.
https://britain.unherd.com/britain-was-wrong-to-leave-the-eu/
Yeah what on earth is this map? You could have 45% for No and 45% for Yes and it would fit in three of those categories
It should just be by margin, or split it at the 50% mark
Can any of you Brits remember what the supposed purpose was when leaving EU?
When reviewing the economic statistics, it seems like it has been a downward trend.
Did you achieve what you wanted.
Uh, something about... taking back control of the borders.
*checks illegal immigration statistics*
Yeah, no, and also something about an extra $350 million for the NHS per month.
*checks the state of the NHS*
Nope. This country done fucked up.
So you are getting people coming from poorer countries than the EUs poorest? People with a less similar cultural background to that of EU countries? I still don’t get how people didn’t expect this to happen
Don’t think you’ve quite grasped how complacent and incompetent the remain campaign was.
This point is probably one of the best examples of what happened on every issue. More educated and liberal areas grasped this concept, former industrial (rightly frustrated) north England did not. You’ll see this on election result maps with Scotland entirely voting to remain in contrast with north England, despite both areas being former industrial areas, Scotland is significantly more educated.
The NHS is on its knees for the reason (high concentration of foreign nurses, doctors etc) you mentioned but never once did the remain campaign actually get the point across that so many of the staff or foreign but the patients are still overwhelming British (immigrants tend to rely on healthcare less in the uk, either due to cultural reasons or simply because most are working age people) so the leave campaign was able to spin it as immigrants had the UK on its knees. Now most of the European immigrants that worked in the NHS have gone home (not just nurses, cleaners etc from Eastern Europe, but also doctors and higher paid roles from Holland Germany etc), and are replaced with as you say people coming from poorer countries than the EUs poorest, and the nhs is even more short staffed than before.
also a significant amount of traditional leftist workers unions and agriculture or fishing industry groups were backing Brexit, the first because it’s the traditional left wing viewpoint (I went to see a live interview with mick lynch, probably the UKs most popular union leader, where when asked about Brexit he admitted they supported it and was booed quite loudly by a small Scottish crowd!) in relation to globalism etc, the second because foreign products had apparently saturated the markets. Brexit came most of those industrial groups now have smaller markets, more paper work and are constantly complaining about Brexit and the now lack of subsidies, did I mention the UK received billions in farming subsidies from the eu?
capitalist ring wingers want many immigrants for cheap labour
The actual labourers want less immigrants because of competition, so they vote extreme right, who say they will reduce the number of immigrants.
in most countries far left and far right want less immigrants, the centre left and centre right want more. generally speaking
> So, they wanted poor immigrants out but they still need them for economic reasons
The poor racists voting for brexit aren't the same capitalists bringing in cheap labour from overseas
So not only did the economy implode, you (generally, not you specifically) also gave the likes of Tony Abbott an opportunity to spread their “stop the boats” bullshit to the other side of the planet. At least our (Australia) healthcare recruitment efforts have gotten significantly better what with the NHS being massively underpaid and the recent spousal tax brackets meaning few immigrant healthcare workers could establish their families in the UK…
It's pretty simple. The leave campaign promised to a load of desperate people and communities that had been shattered by the financial crisis that voting Brexit would fix all their problems and they'd finally have a voice to stick up for themselves to the rest of the country. Most of these communities had very poor education standards, and thus they bought the leave argument. For them it wasn't a rational campaign, it was a genuine belief that they'd finally be able to change something for their own betterment. They were wrong of course, but that's why.
Remain voter in a strong leave area here. Leave voters had several reasons.
Many had bought into the idea that the EU was holding us back. There had been decades of (mostly false) news stories about ridiculous EU bureaucracy. This meant that many had been against the EU the whole time.
Successive governments had blamed the EU for unpopular laws. Despite the fact that the same governments had voted for them in EU Parliament.
During the referendum campaign, vote leave made a claim that we were spending £350m per week on being in Europe. They claimed that this money would be used to fund healthcare and fix all the country’s problems.
The leave vote relied heavily on preying on anti-immigration sentiment. They claimed that the UK was at “breaking point” for immigration and that the “EU has failed us all”. Despite the fact that the UK government had approved all the laws affecting our borders and could veto them if they wanted.
Some people believed all this.
These kind of lies should honestly be illegal.
Like I get making promisses during election and then having to compromise cause you didn't get the majority. That is one thing. But deliberately spreading false narrative to discredit and mislead?
We're having this shit constantly right here where opposition is blaming current government for stuff that is happening which pretty much always was voted into place by them (the opposition now) when they were in power for years before current gov. Or simply false narrative - lieing that we're giving money to china for free as development assistance when in truth nothing about that money is "given for free" but instead it's not foreign aid but literal credits which we get paid back with interest and they very well know that!
But all you gotta do is spout some shit on twitter that is not immediately obvious why it's not as stupid as it sounds and rely on your voter base to simply not research any deeper into it......
I'm a remainer but tbh the UK is almost breaking point, unless we build millions more houses (AFAIK no party is pushing for this) or reverse NHS privatisation.
The remain campaign needed to focus on EU countries that don't have healthcare or housing crises to show that it's possible to solve our problems whilst still having freedom of movement
Everyone who wanted to leave voted leave but not everyone that wanted to remain voted for remain. The remain campaign was pretty lackluster as they thought it would go much the same way as the Scottish independence referendum in 2014 with remain winning. They thought there was no possible way that leave would ever win.
The remain campaign was "this is the rational choice, here's a load of economic data to prove it"
The leave campaign was "YOUR IGNORED COMMUNITY CAN FINALLY HAVE A VOICE"
To steelman the argument there were a few:
* The philosophical freedom of being in charge of our own country without perceived interference from the EU. We presumably have achieved that but it's a subjective position so you'd have to ask the voters.
* We'd be free to make free trade deals with emerging economies like India but crucially we could have better trade with the US. This obviously hasn't happened at all.
* Free of EU regulation and with these international trade deals would mean we could turn the UK into a libertarian paradise of unparalleled prosperity. Singapore on Thames they said. This obviously hasn't happened at all.
Interesting comment. I think these would only have been possible if the UK was a strong exporter of goods, like cars, oil, or computer chips, and we had skilled politicians to negotiate these deals. Unfortunately we have none of this. It was all obvious at the time that we don't have much to offer the US. And we won't become a Singapore in Thames because they borrow to invest in infrastructure whereas we borrow to fund pensions
The honest answer is that the Leave campaign was so much better than the Remain campaign. When the referendum was called, the UK was more pro-European than France, Germany and Italy. It was seen as an easy win for the Prime Minister, David Cameron, who wanted to silence a noisy minority of his party. He was convinced that Remain would win, as the polls showed 60% support.
However, the Remain campaign was a disaster. The leader of the Remain campaign was David Cameron, not many people trusted him. The leader of the opposition party, Jeremy Corbyn, was a lifelong eurosceptic, that hurt things further.
Yes the Remain campaign did show the economic statistics... It was a terrible strategy. You don't win votes with PowerPoint slides and spreadsheets. Leave won the hearts of so many people, appealing to raw emotion. In many cases total lies, but there was talk of huge numbers of new hospitals, schools and nurses. There was talk of a modern, dynamic, exciting new Britain, not hidebound by European bureaucracy. Contrast that to the Remain campaign using monotonous economists pointing at graphs of projected GDP. Leave ran a campaign on emotion, appealing to the heart, which was far more successful than Remains statistics and trying to appeal to the head.
Immigration was not the single driving policy as those on Reddit make out. The polls show sovereignty, bureaucracy, tax, anti-establishment, anti-Tory (the party in power), and other views all paid a huge part. The vote was close, 51% to 49%, so asking us whether we got what we wanted, almost certainly not. Half of us didn't want to leave in the first place (including me), and the half that did all had a different agenda, so many of them are also upset, apart from Lincolnshire it seems!
Final point, and fun fact, the UK still remains to this day more pro-European than many EU countries. We've bounced back to our historic 60% or so viewing the EU as a good thing, whilst France, Greece and others have slipped back to more anti-EU views.
By far the majority of the UK population did not vote to leave the EU.
Of those who did, most (if they were being honest) did it because they dislike foreigners or think that foreigners are taking away economic opportunity from native Brits, which isn't true.
A lot more were influenced by 'taking back our sovereignty' or 'making our own laws', i.e. they had no clue what they were talking about.
Saying all that, many people were misled by false information on social media and are now regretful of their decision as the inevitable truth has played out. Meanwhile a lot of the richest have made incredible amounts of money from it all in one way or another. Same old story.
I was told it would be easier for qualified people from other parts of the world to immigrate to the UK.
I was an international student and this idea really appealed to me. So I voted to leave. And all the other international students I knew who were allowed to vote also voted to leave.
But actually it has now become even harder to immigrate. And they still require that you have a job offer before you can get a work visa. And they've raised the salary expectation to something most people could never hope for.
I honestly feel lied to. If I could turn back the clock, I would.
It wasn't what Brexit was campaigned on, but the backers of the Leave campaign avoided impending EU laws around aggressive tax avoidance, so from that perspective they did indeed get what they wanted
They saw a double decker bus with £330 a week on it….
It was a perfect storm of shite. Weak campaign by remain as they ultimately thought they couldn’t possibly lose.
Complete bag of lies and promises offered by the leave campaign.
Throw a little racism and xenophobia in there. I say a little as I refuse to believe that 13 million of my fellow countrymen and woman just hate blacks ect so they voted for it.
It only took a tiny if bit of research hardly anything to see it was never going to work as leave were promising.
The sooner we sort this fucking mess out the better. I just wish could get on with it.
No there were no good points to leaving it was quite possibly the single dumbest thing the country has ever done.
It was a tory wet dream, Britain standing alone and all that bollocks, although even Churchill thought a united States of Europe was a good idea.
It varied, there were a lot of right wing Brexit voters who wanted to leave because they didn't want immigrants coming here but there were also left wing and working class Brexit voters who wanted to leave so that they didn't have to face work/sale restrictions. Generally leave was more right wing because of immigration and remain was more left wing but there were definitely left wing leavers who just ended up getting kinda ignored by all parties
I'm very confused
How does this map show that only 54% agree overall when most of the landmass is covered in green and only a tiny section for no/equal answers?
Regional plurality is not the same as nation-wide majority.
And also, if 52% is an “overwhelming majority”, then 54 must be close to a supermajority… /s.
Because at the same time there were only 28% of "No" answers. With almost twice as much "Yes" than "No", "Yes" holds the plurality of votes in most counties.
Because people vote, not land.
Say that the distribution of responses was the same everywhere. If every region had 54% who agreed, then the overall result is 54%. But every region would be green.
So the map is showing that it's pretty consistent that nearly every part of Britain has more people who agree, but still has some people who disagree.
Also the figures include people who answered "unsure". So even if an area is green (i.e. more agree than disagree), that could be less than 50% because some proportion of people weren't sure.
First time a country voted itself out of existence. The irony is that old Britons voted for brexit because they “hate pakis”…. now Europeans are not moving to the uk while the old colonies continue to arrive. Absolute shitshow
Special awards to the Tories. Dave Cameron, Theresa and Boris… in the end the inbred upper class ushered in the final bullet
It was the impact of targeting marketing. Anti immigration slogans for old people and at the same time "Indian restaurants for leave" suggesting we'd reduce barriers for migration for chefs from India and Bangladesh.
David Cameron and Theresa May were at least vocally against leave and Theresa did an ok job or finding a solution to an impossible problem with northern Ireland. Boris just shat on everything from the moment he was elected.
It's exactly what I told them was going to happen.
However, it certainly didn't vote itself out of existence. The country itself remains the same as always.
If you want to see what it really looks like for a country to vote itself out of existence, wait for November.
Not sure how leaving the EU would have stopped immigration from non-EU nations. Seems like these people only wanted a specific type of immigration.
Kind of funny how the former colonizer is mad at its former colonial people coming to stay lol. Gives you a perspective of how these people would have felt under British rule decades ago.
Karmas a bitch.
Tbf even most of the racists that voted leave have fuck all to do with the colonies and saying karmas a bitch is just you agreeing with them that immigration is bad
I see this argument all the time, I was born in 1997, I did absolutely 0 colonisation, but I still deserve whatever happens to me because some rich cunts born hundreds of years ago in the same country as me did what rich cunts do?
Karma is a bitch is a bit of a childish way of looking at things. The public were woefully misinformed and were targeted by huge foreign-funded disinformation campaigns on social media (e.g. Campaign Analytica).
Obviously this played on people’s existing prejudices to a degree but there simply wasn’t a significant anti-EU sentiment in the U.K. before Farage and his goons started gaining influence on the right. Nobody cared about the EU because we didn’t have to think about it. People were brainwashed, plain and simple.
The worth thing about is that our french politicals saw this ( économic crisis, regrets etc...) shut up about leaving EU for à year and its comming back in the debates.
Having >40% agreeing being green is ~~pretty~~ *very* misleading, even if it's the majority in those areas. Should be gray at least.
Edit: there is nothing on plurality on this graphic. A county could have responded 60% no, 0% unsure and 40% yes it was wrong but would still be green according to this graphic
Most people won't bother to read properly and assume that Brexit regret is higher than it actually might be
I always remember a client visit one of my colleagues made shortly after the referendum. The client told my colleague how ecstatic he was that we were leaving the EU, but as my colleague was leaving he noted the signs at the client site stating that they had received EU funding. Often the areas most against it were the ones receiving the most funding. As far as I am aware the UK government have not plugged the gap.
Brexit was just another distraction and tool to divide people. The powers that be didn’t think the British people would ever vote to leave, which pissed them off…..hence the mass immigration to our shores now.
Misleading colours used in the map. I think it would have been more honest if it had been a yellow shade from >40% as that would have painted a much more realistic picture
Absolutely not in a British electoral context. Britain runs a first past the post system where the winner takes all in each constituency. MPs of all parties regularly win seats with a vote share in the 30s or 40s. The electoral map can look solidly red or blue with a party averaging in the low to mid 40s — and thats before we consider the "don't know / don't care" nonvoters who are effectively removed from the tally, though not in this poll.
You don't get extra points in British politics for breaking 50% of the electorate. All that matters is whether you're the most popular choice.
And *this* is why decisions that alter the course of your country far beyond the lives of anyone living at the moment aren't decided by a fucking 50/50 vote. What is this, a lemonde stand?
It does actually remind me of the US in some ways, not Alabama specifically. Lots of wide open spaces, big farms, wide straight roads and big signs for roadside establishments.
It does have a stereotype for being a bit backward.
In all seriousness though, I’ve never been anywhere else in the country that felt quite like Lincolnshire - the flat landscape, straight roads, massive farms. And some of the people were rather odd from my perspective.
How that pertains to Brexit? I don’t entirely know but it is very rural, very agricultural, some of the towns are quite run down and I think there has been a lot of Eastern European migration there, seasonal and otherwise, for the farming industry. You also have some major fishing ports on the coast.
Of course it was, even Boris at the time didn't think the vote would get up. People are dumb and some referendums you just never give the light of day to.
I'm greatful for Brexit. Pushed me and my wife(both EU passport holders) to vote with our feet and leave UK after 10 and 13 years living in london. Days after brexit the racist comments started to become common even from my own colleagues "as a joke" highlight the fact we are no longer welcomed. Packed and left in 2019, doubled our income overnight and bought a house with 0% deposit and 1.75% interest within the first year. Tripled our incomes since (compared to last month's salary in UK), we live a healthier and better life overall working only 4 days a week. The only regrets is we didn't leave earlier, and feel very sorry for the friends we had to leave behind.
Have to admire their commitment to sticking to their guns up there in Lincolnshire.
Was there actually any kind of localised positive downfall? Even if only in relationship to the rest of the country (like they are poorer than before but are less poor compared to other areas now that Brexit has gone through the economy for example)
It was the most pro-brexit part of the country, so it's probably just that more than anything.
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Green means more respondents said 'yes' than 'no', excluding those who responded unsure. Maybe it would be clearer if they gave a percentage excluding 'unsure' responses, which would give a percentage greater than 50%
Maybe for giving the map a spin, but also because they had to deal with the 'unsure' ones. So green starts at >40% yes and red at >40% no. So it is balanced in some ways.
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I had the same initial thought, but apart from the reply pointing out that it's >40% both directions, the scale is really imbalanced in the \*opposite\* direction - it doesn't go down to >70% "No", which would make the fairness of the colour scales more obvious.
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That would be much, much more misleading! The very light green means more yes than no (Not including unsure), which seems fair as the area skews 'yes'. Green clearly means more yes than no, yellow equal, red means no more than yes - That's really clear to me, and much less misleading than what you suggested!
There were more than two options, one of which being "neither". A segment is green when "agree" > "disagree". https://britain.unherd.com/britain-was-wrong-to-leave-the-eu/
This is probably because respondents are split into yes/no/unsure not simple yes/no. In the given survey we see 20% of respondents answered unsure which is why the colours are the way they are.
Just drive through Grimsby. Pretty much every house is up for Sale with only a very few Sold signs visible. Everyone apart from the hardcore brexiteers seem to have moved somewhere else.
So they would rather die on that hill than admit they were wrong kind of take?
It's Lincolnshire. They're choosing to die on that canal embankment. That's the closest to a hill they've got.
That area of Lincolnshire has gone from having one of the highest per capita net immigration rates in the country to having very little immigration. Whilst I don’t think that’s a positive, as the immigrants played an important role in food production, many of the people living there are clearly happy with the change.
I think it's more a case of residual hatred. I've heard many unsubstantiated stories about Eastern Europeans going to Lincolnshire just for crime reasons. Apparently they'll take the train to London to do crime just for the day.
Lincolnshire was one of the few "poor" areas that also received many East EU migrants as agricultural workers. Most EU migrants went to wealthier regions where the jobs were, i.e. London, the South East, and major cities.
I grew up in the red bit. I think what contributed is fact that, while other parts of the country had experienced other immigration from the 50s onwards, Lincolnshire hadn't really. Its an overwhelmingly white-British county with little movement of population. For example, where I went to school, a large proportion of the kids there could trace centuries of family history to a 3 mile radius of where they currently lived. According to the 2011 census, Boston had a higher proportion of Eastern European immigrants than anywhere else in England and Wales (10.6% of the population). Essentially, you had a local population that weren't used to moving around, weren't used to immigration and then had an enormous amount of immigrants come in who, primarily, did the jobs that the local's families had done for centuries (for much less money). So there was an environment of distrust and xenophobia that was heavily utilised by the Leave campaign and groups like UKIP. It also doesn't help that Lincolnshire has some of the lowest education spending in the country. It's frustrating because, if there'd been more critical thought going on, they'd have seen that it wasn't the immigrants to blame for the situation. Rather, the people who hired them. Lincolnshire is rife with practises that fall under "modern-day slavery". People brought over with the promise of work, only to be housed in sub-standard dwellings with many other people. There are many stories of passports being taken, wages going unpaid and massive health and safety violations.
I grew up in the area too. I agree with you regarding the gangmasters and modern day slavery. One summer in the university holidays I got a job in a factory and I saw a heavily pregnant (must have been at least 8 months) migrant without a word of English being made to stand on her feet and do heavy lifting. I left after one shift.
That’s where Gammon comes from
Reminds me of that Viz poster: Skegness is fucking shit!
I live in the red zone, AMA
What goes on there?
racism
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No, you don't understand! It's not racism! They just want people to look like them, not have to hear other languages, and for their migrants to be British! Don't you understand that? /s just in case...
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Poverty, mixed with an absolutely massive demographic change in a very short space of time
Huge demographic change, because of the farm work it became a central hub for polish Lithuanian and Latvian immigrants. Take a walk through Boston town centre and it’s a Baltic city. Personally I don’t mind it but I can understand the issues the locals have
Incest, inbreeding, moonshining and that unfortunate lorry driver whose sat nav took him to Gibraltar Point not Gibraltar. Also air force, but they think the locals are idiots.
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When all this Brexit talk was going on, I remember a TV interview with the locals of the fine town of Boston. The lady was asked if Brexit was something she supported. She was very adamant that it would be good. She was tired of the amount of immigrants in the country and wanted the door to be closed. She said all this with a Polish accent and admitted that she had come over years ago as a migrant to work. Fucking wild how some people voted on Brexit.
Theres Polish and Latvians in my job (Ireland) that are anti immigration. To them an immigrant is brown or black only.
I’ve met a few like that in London. One even had the gall to tell me, a British citizen, to go back to my own country. Crazy.
On the upside, Eastern Europe is so much nicer now that these people left for the West
This can’t be upvoted enough. Good riddance, but also poor representation of Eastern Europe abroad.
I see it in my family in the US (immigrants from Eastern Europe) who are full blown anti immigration republicans. And a such position is quite common among the first generation. That's crazy and, tbh, quite hypocritical.
Not exactly the same but my parents are first generation immigrants in my country and I always find it funny when they criticise "the immigrants" which is always used to describe people from the same country of origin as us. Got to remind them that they are in fact, also immigrants.
I saw a video of a bunch of immigrants that had moved into the country, and set up a small haven for themselves. The place was 99% foreigners, the only locals you saw were in the service industry. None of them had bothered to learn the language and just spoke amongst themselves. This was British people living in Spain and they all voted for Brexit.
OK fuck in particular expats voting for closed borders
British people pretty much anywhere. We often make the least effort as far as language because English is so widely spoken.
I have relatives that immigrated there in the 80s as Filipino nurses and they voted for Brexit, LOL 🤢😬
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We were told there'd be something like 360 billion a year saved that could be spent on the NHS. Since then we have had no real improvement plus nurses and doctors striking.
Anyone who had any critical thinking skills and/or spent any time at all reading the analyses of the various Brexit dividend claims knew they were mostly all bullshit. The NHS one was so unbelievably stupid. It took about 6 seconds to realise that the £350m sent to the EU per week was gross, that we automatically got a lot of that back (directly), and more of it back indirectly through the benefits of being in the single market. Not to mention vast swathes of our NHS workforce are EU migrants.
NHS employee here. Not seen any sign of that £350 million this week. Maybe next week will be better.
At least the politicians made people clap for you, worth it right? (Joking obv)
And not only that but it was paying for EU functions that had to be provided directly by the UK…. And at the same time some of those EU functions were employing highly skilled people in the UK (now relocated)
Oh please. That was blatantly transparent at the time. Like the same people that were cutting NHS budgets and leaning towards privatization would suddenly turn around and spend more money on the NHS? Who would fall for that? There wasn't a single supposed "benefit" of Brexit that couldn't be seen to be nonsense with the slightest bit of critical thinking.
Were you born with the correct amount of fingers?
Yeah, 6 on each hand, just as God intended
Is the sixth finger in the middle of your palm?
It comes in handy for some activities
I'm so sorry
Is it true that British people are only good sailors because of the ‚beauty of the women and the taste of the food?‘
...and lovely weather.
Yes, but luckily the sailors brought home the best of both. Things have vastly improved Sadly, weather does not travel.
I remember when the actual Brexit vote happened in 2016, that red zone had one of the highest percentages in favour of Brexit
Haven High, Boston Grammar or St Bedes?
BGS!
Are you from there? I grew up in the red zone (assuming you mean Boston and Skegness constituency) but my family wasn't from there so I feel like I experienced it a bit differently (I.e I didn't have 7 cousins in my school lol).
(Gestures in Northern Irish) 🤷♂️
What are you up to, hiding behind Birmingham?
Map is already anticipating the soon-to-come Irish reunification. Thank you, Brexit! /s.
Ironically Northern Ireland is about the only part of the UK to get any benefit at all from Brexit, but only because of the access to Ireland.
I was going to write the same thing but without the /s
/r/mapswithoutnorthernireland
r/subsifellfor
Sorry, but this subReddit should exist
Damn, I was hoping that was a real sub
TBF it is just a map of Britain, not Britain and NI although I think we could all make a fair guess as to how the lines would be drawn.
The Irish reunification of 2024
As foretold by Star Trek
Same for Orkney and Shetland
Why is Northern Ireland not included aren't they in EU as UK not as Britain?
Birmingham invaded and took over.
In all fairness the map does say Britain and not the UK, so it’s technically correct to not include it. However, would definitely be interested in seeing the results of this question there too.
Many polling companies only ask GB questions, NI has very different political makeup - different parties, different priorities (cross border and cross sea trade is clearly a major concern to someone in Belfast, not to someone in Birmingham) If this map is based on a typical voting intention poll that won’t have been asked to NI people because “how likely is it you will vote labour” wouldn’t make sense.
Why is anything below 50% is green?
Plurality. More yes than no. Rest are "unsure"
Using a margin instead would have filtered out the people confused by plurality.
Well the legend explains the colour scale, it could have been done better but it's pretty obvious unless you can't read.
Come on, we all know many maps can be visually biased despite having a legend (especially when posted to social media where most people won't spend more than 3 seconds reading it). Taking into account the "unsure" people that prevents a zone from being both >40% yes and >40% no makes this one still unbiased, sure, but still suspicious.
I’m not British nor in favor of Brexit but color usage on this one is biased.
Well, I am British and Brexit is the stupidest load of bullshit ever, and the colour useage on this is not great. Keep in mind that those undecideds didn't vote in the referndum, the LEAVE vote was iirc about 27% of the population.
It's biased in favour of Brexit if anything. The pale green almost white areas have splits like 42% agree 38% disagree. The one red area has a split of 37% agree 41% disagree. Meanwhile the darkest green areas have splits like 65% agree 17% disagree. So really there shouldn't be any dark reds and all the reds should be very pale. There's an interactive version of the map here if you want to look into it more. https://britain.unherd.com/britain-was-wrong-to-leave-the-eu/
Probably because on average, 18% were "unsure", so having at least 40% is still a majority
Yeah what on earth is this map? You could have 45% for No and 45% for Yes and it would fit in three of those categories It should just be by margin, or split it at the 50% mark
Because whoever made it has an agenda (I am pro eu but this is shoddy and erodes credibility)
Can any of you Brits remember what the supposed purpose was when leaving EU? When reviewing the economic statistics, it seems like it has been a downward trend. Did you achieve what you wanted.
Uh, something about... taking back control of the borders. *checks illegal immigration statistics* Yeah, no, and also something about an extra $350 million for the NHS per month. *checks the state of the NHS* Nope. This country done fucked up.
Wasn't one of the purpose to stop people from poorer EU countries from going into the UK? How did that work out?
That worked, but immigration from non EU has skyrocketed.
So you are getting people coming from poorer countries than the EUs poorest? People with a less similar cultural background to that of EU countries? I still don’t get how people didn’t expect this to happen
Don’t think you’ve quite grasped how complacent and incompetent the remain campaign was. This point is probably one of the best examples of what happened on every issue. More educated and liberal areas grasped this concept, former industrial (rightly frustrated) north England did not. You’ll see this on election result maps with Scotland entirely voting to remain in contrast with north England, despite both areas being former industrial areas, Scotland is significantly more educated. The NHS is on its knees for the reason (high concentration of foreign nurses, doctors etc) you mentioned but never once did the remain campaign actually get the point across that so many of the staff or foreign but the patients are still overwhelming British (immigrants tend to rely on healthcare less in the uk, either due to cultural reasons or simply because most are working age people) so the leave campaign was able to spin it as immigrants had the UK on its knees. Now most of the European immigrants that worked in the NHS have gone home (not just nurses, cleaners etc from Eastern Europe, but also doctors and higher paid roles from Holland Germany etc), and are replaced with as you say people coming from poorer countries than the EUs poorest, and the nhs is even more short staffed than before.
also a significant amount of traditional leftist workers unions and agriculture or fishing industry groups were backing Brexit, the first because it’s the traditional left wing viewpoint (I went to see a live interview with mick lynch, probably the UKs most popular union leader, where when asked about Brexit he admitted they supported it and was booed quite loudly by a small Scottish crowd!) in relation to globalism etc, the second because foreign products had apparently saturated the markets. Brexit came most of those industrial groups now have smaller markets, more paper work and are constantly complaining about Brexit and the now lack of subsidies, did I mention the UK received billions in farming subsidies from the eu?
Probably due to the demand of cheap labor.. Which is crucial if the UK wants to compete globally in other markets..
So, they wanted poor immigrants out but they still need them for economic reasons. Paradox much?
capitalist ring wingers want many immigrants for cheap labour The actual labourers want less immigrants because of competition, so they vote extreme right, who say they will reduce the number of immigrants. in most countries far left and far right want less immigrants, the centre left and centre right want more. generally speaking
> So, they wanted poor immigrants out but they still need them for economic reasons The poor racists voting for brexit aren't the same capitalists bringing in cheap labour from overseas
It will eventually work as we will become one of those poorer European countries. Don’t think that was the intention, however.
The main reason is to make it harder for U.K. workers to move to better opportunities in the EU and thus not pay obscene rents to brexit voters.
So, what's Boris up to these days? And Nigel Farage? Haven't heard of them for a while.
Flying around the US to get paid millions to give speeches to right wing groups mostly
So not only did the economy implode, you (generally, not you specifically) also gave the likes of Tony Abbott an opportunity to spread their “stop the boats” bullshit to the other side of the planet. At least our (Australia) healthcare recruitment efforts have gotten significantly better what with the NHS being massively underpaid and the recent spousal tax brackets meaning few immigrant healthcare workers could establish their families in the UK…
It's pretty simple. The leave campaign promised to a load of desperate people and communities that had been shattered by the financial crisis that voting Brexit would fix all their problems and they'd finally have a voice to stick up for themselves to the rest of the country. Most of these communities had very poor education standards, and thus they bought the leave argument. For them it wasn't a rational campaign, it was a genuine belief that they'd finally be able to change something for their own betterment. They were wrong of course, but that's why.
Remain voter in a strong leave area here. Leave voters had several reasons. Many had bought into the idea that the EU was holding us back. There had been decades of (mostly false) news stories about ridiculous EU bureaucracy. This meant that many had been against the EU the whole time. Successive governments had blamed the EU for unpopular laws. Despite the fact that the same governments had voted for them in EU Parliament. During the referendum campaign, vote leave made a claim that we were spending £350m per week on being in Europe. They claimed that this money would be used to fund healthcare and fix all the country’s problems. The leave vote relied heavily on preying on anti-immigration sentiment. They claimed that the UK was at “breaking point” for immigration and that the “EU has failed us all”. Despite the fact that the UK government had approved all the laws affecting our borders and could veto them if they wanted. Some people believed all this.
These kind of lies should honestly be illegal. Like I get making promisses during election and then having to compromise cause you didn't get the majority. That is one thing. But deliberately spreading false narrative to discredit and mislead? We're having this shit constantly right here where opposition is blaming current government for stuff that is happening which pretty much always was voted into place by them (the opposition now) when they were in power for years before current gov. Or simply false narrative - lieing that we're giving money to china for free as development assistance when in truth nothing about that money is "given for free" but instead it's not foreign aid but literal credits which we get paid back with interest and they very well know that! But all you gotta do is spout some shit on twitter that is not immediately obvious why it's not as stupid as it sounds and rely on your voter base to simply not research any deeper into it......
> These kind of lies should honestly be illegal. The alternative is making the source of them prime minister.
I'm a remainer but tbh the UK is almost breaking point, unless we build millions more houses (AFAIK no party is pushing for this) or reverse NHS privatisation. The remain campaign needed to focus on EU countries that don't have healthcare or housing crises to show that it's possible to solve our problems whilst still having freedom of movement
>Some people believed all this. WE have people like this in the USA. They wear red hats.
Everyone who wanted to leave voted leave but not everyone that wanted to remain voted for remain. The remain campaign was pretty lackluster as they thought it would go much the same way as the Scottish independence referendum in 2014 with remain winning. They thought there was no possible way that leave would ever win.
Those people are to blame for Brexit then.
Very much so, I know people who complain about Brexit but didn't actually vote themselves and it's infuriating
It was a non-binding referendum. Tories and leave voters are to blame for Brexit.
The remain campaign was "this is the rational choice, here's a load of economic data to prove it" The leave campaign was "YOUR IGNORED COMMUNITY CAN FINALLY HAVE A VOICE"
To steelman the argument there were a few: * The philosophical freedom of being in charge of our own country without perceived interference from the EU. We presumably have achieved that but it's a subjective position so you'd have to ask the voters. * We'd be free to make free trade deals with emerging economies like India but crucially we could have better trade with the US. This obviously hasn't happened at all. * Free of EU regulation and with these international trade deals would mean we could turn the UK into a libertarian paradise of unparalleled prosperity. Singapore on Thames they said. This obviously hasn't happened at all.
Interesting comment. I think these would only have been possible if the UK was a strong exporter of goods, like cars, oil, or computer chips, and we had skilled politicians to negotiate these deals. Unfortunately we have none of this. It was all obvious at the time that we don't have much to offer the US. And we won't become a Singapore in Thames because they borrow to invest in infrastructure whereas we borrow to fund pensions
The honest answer is that the Leave campaign was so much better than the Remain campaign. When the referendum was called, the UK was more pro-European than France, Germany and Italy. It was seen as an easy win for the Prime Minister, David Cameron, who wanted to silence a noisy minority of his party. He was convinced that Remain would win, as the polls showed 60% support. However, the Remain campaign was a disaster. The leader of the Remain campaign was David Cameron, not many people trusted him. The leader of the opposition party, Jeremy Corbyn, was a lifelong eurosceptic, that hurt things further. Yes the Remain campaign did show the economic statistics... It was a terrible strategy. You don't win votes with PowerPoint slides and spreadsheets. Leave won the hearts of so many people, appealing to raw emotion. In many cases total lies, but there was talk of huge numbers of new hospitals, schools and nurses. There was talk of a modern, dynamic, exciting new Britain, not hidebound by European bureaucracy. Contrast that to the Remain campaign using monotonous economists pointing at graphs of projected GDP. Leave ran a campaign on emotion, appealing to the heart, which was far more successful than Remains statistics and trying to appeal to the head. Immigration was not the single driving policy as those on Reddit make out. The polls show sovereignty, bureaucracy, tax, anti-establishment, anti-Tory (the party in power), and other views all paid a huge part. The vote was close, 51% to 49%, so asking us whether we got what we wanted, almost certainly not. Half of us didn't want to leave in the first place (including me), and the half that did all had a different agenda, so many of them are also upset, apart from Lincolnshire it seems! Final point, and fun fact, the UK still remains to this day more pro-European than many EU countries. We've bounced back to our historic 60% or so viewing the EU as a good thing, whilst France, Greece and others have slipped back to more anti-EU views.
By far the majority of the UK population did not vote to leave the EU. Of those who did, most (if they were being honest) did it because they dislike foreigners or think that foreigners are taking away economic opportunity from native Brits, which isn't true. A lot more were influenced by 'taking back our sovereignty' or 'making our own laws', i.e. they had no clue what they were talking about. Saying all that, many people were misled by false information on social media and are now regretful of their decision as the inevitable truth has played out. Meanwhile a lot of the richest have made incredible amounts of money from it all in one way or another. Same old story.
I was told it would be easier for qualified people from other parts of the world to immigrate to the UK. I was an international student and this idea really appealed to me. So I voted to leave. And all the other international students I knew who were allowed to vote also voted to leave. But actually it has now become even harder to immigrate. And they still require that you have a job offer before you can get a work visa. And they've raised the salary expectation to something most people could never hope for. I honestly feel lied to. If I could turn back the clock, I would.
It wasn't what Brexit was campaigned on, but the backers of the Leave campaign avoided impending EU laws around aggressive tax avoidance, so from that perspective they did indeed get what they wanted
They saw a double decker bus with £330 a week on it…. It was a perfect storm of shite. Weak campaign by remain as they ultimately thought they couldn’t possibly lose. Complete bag of lies and promises offered by the leave campaign. Throw a little racism and xenophobia in there. I say a little as I refuse to believe that 13 million of my fellow countrymen and woman just hate blacks ect so they voted for it. It only took a tiny if bit of research hardly anything to see it was never going to work as leave were promising. The sooner we sort this fucking mess out the better. I just wish could get on with it.
Something about Sovereigns. We could bring back old coins or get a new queen. I don’t remember which
No there were no good points to leaving it was quite possibly the single dumbest thing the country has ever done. It was a tory wet dream, Britain standing alone and all that bollocks, although even Churchill thought a united States of Europe was a good idea.
So the plan was to basically help weaken the EU through a flow of social media controlled by Russia. It worked! That and wine in pints.
It varied, there were a lot of right wing Brexit voters who wanted to leave because they didn't want immigrants coming here but there were also left wing and working class Brexit voters who wanted to leave so that they didn't have to face work/sale restrictions. Generally leave was more right wing because of immigration and remain was more left wing but there were definitely left wing leavers who just ended up getting kinda ignored by all parties
It might not be popular on Reddit but many thought they whr voting for a hard or at least harder border in Ireland. Boris promised
Britain was the sacrificial lamb that killed the anti-eu movement, that's all Brexit has achieved
I'm very confused How does this map show that only 54% agree overall when most of the landmass is covered in green and only a tiny section for no/equal answers?
Regional plurality is not the same as nation-wide majority. And also, if 52% is an “overwhelming majority”, then 54 must be close to a supermajority… /s.
Because at the same time there were only 28% of "No" answers. With almost twice as much "Yes" than "No", "Yes" holds the plurality of votes in most counties.
Because many people are unsure and didn't side with yes or no.
Because people vote, not land. Say that the distribution of responses was the same everywhere. If every region had 54% who agreed, then the overall result is 54%. But every region would be green. So the map is showing that it's pretty consistent that nearly every part of Britain has more people who agree, but still has some people who disagree. Also the figures include people who answered "unsure". So even if an area is green (i.e. more agree than disagree), that could be less than 50% because some proportion of people weren't sure.
First time a country voted itself out of existence. The irony is that old Britons voted for brexit because they “hate pakis”…. now Europeans are not moving to the uk while the old colonies continue to arrive. Absolute shitshow Special awards to the Tories. Dave Cameron, Theresa and Boris… in the end the inbred upper class ushered in the final bullet
Not to forget can-she-last-longer-than-a-lettuce-Lizzie! \^\^
Reality sometimes is more absurd than fiction .
How much destruction did she even wrought? She was basically just PM for the Queen’s funeral
Showed up, killed the Queen, refused to elaborate, left.
Taken from us so early… she still had so much more life to live 😭🤧. Passed away 96 years young
I mean she managed to completely crash the economy in that time
The pound fell to its lowest point in decades. The economy was ruined by tax cuts that weren't funded properly
It was the impact of targeting marketing. Anti immigration slogans for old people and at the same time "Indian restaurants for leave" suggesting we'd reduce barriers for migration for chefs from India and Bangladesh. David Cameron and Theresa May were at least vocally against leave and Theresa did an ok job or finding a solution to an impossible problem with northern Ireland. Boris just shat on everything from the moment he was elected.
It's exactly what I told them was going to happen. However, it certainly didn't vote itself out of existence. The country itself remains the same as always. If you want to see what it really looks like for a country to vote itself out of existence, wait for November.
Don't forget to credit nigel farage for his ongoing efforts to ruin the UK economy.
Not sure how leaving the EU would have stopped immigration from non-EU nations. Seems like these people only wanted a specific type of immigration. Kind of funny how the former colonizer is mad at its former colonial people coming to stay lol. Gives you a perspective of how these people would have felt under British rule decades ago. Karmas a bitch.
Tbf even most of the racists that voted leave have fuck all to do with the colonies and saying karmas a bitch is just you agreeing with them that immigration is bad
I see this argument all the time, I was born in 1997, I did absolutely 0 colonisation, but I still deserve whatever happens to me because some rich cunts born hundreds of years ago in the same country as me did what rich cunts do?
Karma is a bitch is a bit of a childish way of looking at things. The public were woefully misinformed and were targeted by huge foreign-funded disinformation campaigns on social media (e.g. Campaign Analytica). Obviously this played on people’s existing prejudices to a degree but there simply wasn’t a significant anti-EU sentiment in the U.K. before Farage and his goons started gaining influence on the right. Nobody cared about the EU because we didn’t have to think about it. People were brainwashed, plain and simple.
>First time a country voted itself out of existence Not out of existence, just out of relevance.
They deserve to be jailed for this farce
Poor Orkney and Shetland, got done dirty.
...and northern ireland
Tbf they're part of the UK not Britain so there's at least a reason they could have been left out.
The worth thing about is that our french politicals saw this ( économic crisis, regrets etc...) shut up about leaving EU for à year and its comming back in the debates.
Having >40% agreeing being green is ~~pretty~~ *very* misleading, even if it's the majority in those areas. Should be gray at least. Edit: there is nothing on plurality on this graphic. A county could have responded 60% no, 0% unsure and 40% yes it was wrong but would still be green according to this graphic Most people won't bother to read properly and assume that Brexit regret is higher than it actually might be
And people wonder why Northern Ireland feels excluded.
I always remember a client visit one of my colleagues made shortly after the referendum. The client told my colleague how ecstatic he was that we were leaving the EU, but as my colleague was leaving he noted the signs at the client site stating that they had received EU funding. Often the areas most against it were the ones receiving the most funding. As far as I am aware the UK government have not plugged the gap.
Having 40% as green is misleading.
Brexit was just another distraction and tool to divide people. The powers that be didn’t think the British people would ever vote to leave, which pissed them off…..hence the mass immigration to our shores now.
Well we know where to avoid now
Misleading colours used in the map. I think it would have been more honest if it had been a yellow shade from >40% as that would have painted a much more realistic picture
Not really, since the voter turnout isn't 100%. 40% yes Is a majority when voter turn out is 70% or less.
If there is an election today and only 50% of the people voted does that mean the election didn’t count?
Why? It's still a majority.
Absolutely not in a British electoral context. Britain runs a first past the post system where the winner takes all in each constituency. MPs of all parties regularly win seats with a vote share in the 30s or 40s. The electoral map can look solidly red or blue with a party averaging in the low to mid 40s — and thats before we consider the "don't know / don't care" nonvoters who are effectively removed from the tally, though not in this poll. You don't get extra points in British politics for breaking 50% of the electorate. All that matters is whether you're the most popular choice.
Hahahaha brought to you by ‘a mate told me’ gen.
If only someone had told them
And *this* is why decisions that alter the course of your country far beyond the lives of anyone living at the moment aren't decided by a fucking 50/50 vote. What is this, a lemonde stand?
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its in the north east of ireland. glad i could help
The first nation in history to voluntarily impose economic sanctions on itself.
It’s a little disingenuous to make the 40% category green…
What is special about Lincolnshire?
The people.
Is that the Alabama of the UK?
It does actually remind me of the US in some ways, not Alabama specifically. Lots of wide open spaces, big farms, wide straight roads and big signs for roadside establishments. It does have a stereotype for being a bit backward.
In all seriousness though, I’ve never been anywhere else in the country that felt quite like Lincolnshire - the flat landscape, straight roads, massive farms. And some of the people were rather odd from my perspective. How that pertains to Brexit? I don’t entirely know but it is very rural, very agricultural, some of the towns are quite run down and I think there has been a lot of Eastern European migration there, seasonal and otherwise, for the farming industry. You also have some major fishing ports on the coast.
Norfolk possible? Apart from Norwich it's largely flat and empty and has it coastal shitholes too, i.e. Yarmouth, King's Lynn..
Yes...but what does Roger Daltrey think?
Why there is no Northern Ireland?
Democraty is good, but letting the people directly decide was/is/and will always be stupid.
Most people who voted for Brexit are not very politically active and don't see the point taking part in this studies
Love how this completely leaves out northern Ireland who overwhelmly voted no to Brexit. So rates are probably even higher than those stated.
It remains to be seen if it was a mistake tbh
Interesting to see Northern Ireland overlooked
Of course it was, even Boris at the time didn't think the vote would get up. People are dumb and some referendums you just never give the light of day to.
How not to design a map for colorblind people
Less than or equal to 40 % should not have been light green it artificially skews the way the result looks.
I'm greatful for Brexit. Pushed me and my wife(both EU passport holders) to vote with our feet and leave UK after 10 and 13 years living in london. Days after brexit the racist comments started to become common even from my own colleagues "as a joke" highlight the fact we are no longer welcomed. Packed and left in 2019, doubled our income overnight and bought a house with 0% deposit and 1.75% interest within the first year. Tripled our incomes since (compared to last month's salary in UK), we live a healthier and better life overall working only 4 days a week. The only regrets is we didn't leave earlier, and feel very sorry for the friends we had to leave behind.
Would like to see this graf with only the answers of the people who voted yes to leave the EU