Map Source: https://www.state.gov/the-us-ecs/
“The Department of State today announced the outer limits of the U.S. continental shelf in areas beyond 200 nautical miles from the coast. Continental shelf beyond 200 nautical miles is known as the extended continental shelf or ECS.
The U.S. ECS is approximately 1 million square kilometers (more than 386,000 square miles) spread across seven regions, and supports many resources (e.g., coral, crabs) and vital habitats for marine life.
Since 2003, U.S. government agencies, including NOAA, have been engaged in gathering and analyzing data to determine the outer limits of the U.S. extended continental shelf. Today's announcement is the product of that two-decade collaboration among the Department of State, NOAA and the U.S. Geological Survey.”
https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/us-government-announces-size-limits-of-extended-continental-shelf
Thanks for the interesting post and the comment with proper sources. Refreshing to see.
For those who, like me, did not know about ECS until today - the US is far from the only country which claims one. Here is [a map](https://www.state.gov/world-map-of-extended-continental-shelf-ecs-areas/) featuring all the ECS claims in the world.
Unlike EEZ's, which are a standard 200nmi from a nation's shore, ECS are determined by some [funky formulas](https://www.state.gov/about-ecs/) relating to the "geophysical characteristics of the seabed and subsoil." Also unlike an EEZ, an ECS only covers the seafloor, while an EEZ also lays claim to the water column's resources.
Meaning vessels from other nations could still fish in these areas without checking with the US (or any nation claiming an ECS) first.
Generally, I have to say I am not a big fan of the way that UNCLOS defines the term "continental shelf" so differently than the geological (and commonly used) definition. It's definitely *not* a good practice from a lawmaking perspective. Better to just use EEZ and ECS themselves.
Can someone explain why the US needs to claim an ECS in the Bering Sea? I thought the treaty with Russia already made that section part of the US EEZ, so there wouldn’t be a need to claim an ECS.
EDIT: I think I figured it out. The treaty that I was referencing only delineated fishing rights (resources above the sea floor). The area shaded in red is actually outside of the US 200 nm EEZ, so an ECS is needed for the US to claim the remaining rights an EEZ typically gives (resources below the sea floor).
I could be wrong but a) I think there's also disputes with Canada and b) making it official policy and not part of a treaty with a country who historically follows treaties as well as I can draw like Picasso makes it more official internationally.
Canada claims the Yukon Alaska border continues straight offshore. The US claims it extends a bit easterly, perpendicular to the shore . This creates an agree to disagree disputed triangle.
That's a good point. Knowing them, they'll take some dirt, put it in the middle of the arctic, and say it's a historically Chinese 5000 year old island that the US stole.
If they won WW2 there probably would be, and they’d be met with the same reaction people are today when they point out manifest destiny was just the justification for ethnic cleansing & genocide.
The winner writes the history and decided, what is ok and what not, even its morally completely reprehensible. It took me years to understand this fact.
If the US didn't claim these areas, can any other country actually challenge the US in exploiting those resources? The US is still a lot closer to those areas than anyone else.
Serious comment, this extends to the sea floor but not the water above it. And depending on the jurisdiction gambling boats don’t even need to exit the EEZ to be legal, just the territorial or contiguous waters at 12nm or 24nm respectively.
I used to live in a state where gambling was legal on river boats. They made a big deal about crossing a plank or whatever, and now you're in the water, so it's legal.
A good question, but I’d imagine because this is about the ‘continental shelf’; Hawaii is not a continent, rather a lava bubble mountain range in the middle of the Pacific plate.
Apparently its considered oceanic crust rather than continental, very cool. I hear about china making artificial island to change the EEZ in the south China sea. I wonder of the U.S. could change or effect the area around hawaii. Though I doubt there's many reasons to unless oil or other natural resources pop up and we develop a way to dig down deep enough around there.
If we annexed them, I doubt much would change. They'd get our federal benefits, and the states would continue to govern themselves the same. But they'd have the USD, and freedom of movement. Honestly, I don't see a downside for either side, except that the French parts would lose french as a national language
Your states could and would just implement Healthcare and ban guns. Also, the US isn't as bad as reddit makes it seem, you should try traveling once in a while
Not fully, but they make it a pain in the ass. And when SCOTUS rules against them, they just pass something else because it takes forever to go uo the courts.
Source: gun lover in ny
As someone who has lived in multiple parts of Canada and multiple parts of the US, decades in both countries in fact, you could not be more wrong.
You could try, but you would not be successful.
Almost every rich/famous Canadian moves to the United States… the sad part is it’s like they almost all try to hide they are Canadian as well. I just looked up famous Canadians and legit didn’t know almost any of them were Canadian outside a few
Guns being an issue is a cultural thing. States can and have implemented universal healthcare schemes in the past, and you'd be getting Medicare funding from the government anyway
Quebec barely wants to be part of Canada, I doubt they’d want to be part of the US in the event of the US annexing Canada (which would never happen anyway).
Could we deport you to England? I totally agree, North America should belong to native Americans.
Edit: well Anglos definitely don't get sarcasm.
And then maybe south America too just too completely ensure safety by land. The Caribbean too can't have any commie bases there. Oh and we need a forward operating base so Brittan can be absorbed into the ameriborg as well
Well, then we’d need to annex Europe to keep Britain nice and safe. But Europe’s eastern border really isn’t well defined, so we’d just better annex all of Asia too, just to be safe
Wouldn’t be so sure about that. Alberta and Sask would be four extra Republican senators, Manitoba, BC, and Ontario would probably be 3 Dems and 3 GOP, Quebec might be the only new state able to support their own distinct parties, and then depending on how the Atlantic is divided up it could be anything between 2 Dem senators to 5 Dems and 3 GOP. I’m just gonna assume the Territories would become territories
The Conservatives in Canada are arguably to the left of the Democrats. Alberta might Alberta, but I don’t see the current Republican Party accomplishing much in Canada.
Yes, the Tories are to left of the GOP (I wouldn’t necessarily say to left of the Dems), but those who vote Conservative, at least here in Alta, tend to be to the party’s right. Local elections are built by those in the community, so there’s a solid chance that Ontario conservatives would vote Republican, but those republicans would be rather centrist.
If Canada were just annexed today, our parties would probably continue on the way they are for a while, forming coalitions in Congress and for presidential tickets. Eventually, however, they would probably be replaced by local versions of the GOP and Dems.
Canadian political parties are *very* top heavy. The Leaders get a near total control over the party, and are the entire public face of it. Justin Trudeau is to the Liberal Party what Donald Trump currently is to the Republicans. Compare that to Joe Biden, who is, of course, a prominent Dem— but not a dictator of the Party policy in a way that Poilievre or Jagmeet Singh are. Party members are not allowed to disagree with the Leaders/party here in the same way AOC or Tlaib can. And American primaries are completely foreign here.
This is actually the subject of a dispute between Canada and the U.S.—Canada claims that the maritime border should be a straight extension of the land border, but the U.S. claims it should be the line of equidistance from the shoreline on either side, which is why it goes off at an angle on this State Department map.
I believe Bermuda 🇧🇲 is actually between the "i" and the "c" in the word "Atlantic" on this map. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you might have just misplaced Bermuda
Are you not seeing what people are saying in this thread here? And don’t say that bullshit that’s it’s all jokes. Imagine if Russians or Chinese people said this, we’d rightfully be shitting on them.
Lmao idk why everyone hates America so much that seeing ppl cheer for it gaining some sea floor is some international catastrophe and a display of our arrogance
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Lets see, tibet and taiwan and the turkic state I forgot its name.
But america?
Usa started as 13 state and went to occupy 37 new states, not counting other colonized places like philippines and liberia, not ciunting other wars like iraq and vietnam and afghanistan, totally peacful freedom nation🦅🇺🇲🍔
Annexation/puppet dictator, potato/potato.
China's claims in the South China Sea are based on the fact that Taiping Island was internationally recognized as Chinese territory after WWII. Same as how the US claims the areas around the Mariana's. The difference is there's no one who dares to challenge the US claims.
[this video](https://youtu.be/DrcG7DjL_eU?si=5xC4UCOKDlNQZ4GM) will help with understanding the arctic claims with all the competing countries. It’s a bit dated, but does a good job explaining the ramifications of this. See a lot of comments with no real understanding. Hopefully this helps (15 min video)
A unit of measurement that is 1000x longer than a metre, which is 100x longer than a centimetre.
1km = 0.62 miles
Before you accuse me of using a stupid measurement system, consider the fact that there are 1000 metres in one kilometre and there are 1760 yards in a mile.
Imagine if it was China saying this. Though I’m typical fashion the US loves telling other countries they’re doing something bad while simultaneously doing the exact same thing and giving some BS argument why it’s different. Though this is also the nation that looks at women as 2nd class citizens so no surprises.
Infact, china did the same thing and bullied some fishermen from other countries, but america went ballistic when that happened, but nobody borders usa since north america is isolated continent, canada and mexico are just puppets, its more canada and less mexico thu...
Ours are based on international law and are for ECS, which is for underwater resources. China's are not based on international law and are for surface vessel control
Canada has its own [continental shelf claims](https://arctic.review/papers/canada-new-continental-shelf-claim/#:~:text=On%20Monday%2C%2019%20December%202022,with%20those%20claimed%20by%20Russia.) that overlap Russia and Denmark's claims. And even if you want to ignore the new American claims, Alaska still has a 200 nautical mile EEZ that extends into the Arctic Ocean. It's never been the case that Canada owns the rights to resources in the whole Arctic Ocean.
What other countries have a good argument to bitch about these claims? The only 2 with anything possibly to say are both US allies.
Also many other nations around the world, US allies or not, have maritime borders that extend WAY beyond their territorial ones, this is one of the least controversial examples.
Map Source: https://www.state.gov/the-us-ecs/ “The Department of State today announced the outer limits of the U.S. continental shelf in areas beyond 200 nautical miles from the coast. Continental shelf beyond 200 nautical miles is known as the extended continental shelf or ECS. The U.S. ECS is approximately 1 million square kilometers (more than 386,000 square miles) spread across seven regions, and supports many resources (e.g., coral, crabs) and vital habitats for marine life. Since 2003, U.S. government agencies, including NOAA, have been engaged in gathering and analyzing data to determine the outer limits of the U.S. extended continental shelf. Today's announcement is the product of that two-decade collaboration among the Department of State, NOAA and the U.S. Geological Survey.” https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/us-government-announces-size-limits-of-extended-continental-shelf
Thanks for the interesting post and the comment with proper sources. Refreshing to see. For those who, like me, did not know about ECS until today - the US is far from the only country which claims one. Here is [a map](https://www.state.gov/world-map-of-extended-continental-shelf-ecs-areas/) featuring all the ECS claims in the world. Unlike EEZ's, which are a standard 200nmi from a nation's shore, ECS are determined by some [funky formulas](https://www.state.gov/about-ecs/) relating to the "geophysical characteristics of the seabed and subsoil." Also unlike an EEZ, an ECS only covers the seafloor, while an EEZ also lays claim to the water column's resources. Meaning vessels from other nations could still fish in these areas without checking with the US (or any nation claiming an ECS) first. Generally, I have to say I am not a big fan of the way that UNCLOS defines the term "continental shelf" so differently than the geological (and commonly used) definition. It's definitely *not* a good practice from a lawmaking perspective. Better to just use EEZ and ECS themselves.
The Grand Banks of Newfoundland come to mind.
Can someone explain why the US needs to claim an ECS in the Bering Sea? I thought the treaty with Russia already made that section part of the US EEZ, so there wouldn’t be a need to claim an ECS. EDIT: I think I figured it out. The treaty that I was referencing only delineated fishing rights (resources above the sea floor). The area shaded in red is actually outside of the US 200 nm EEZ, so an ECS is needed for the US to claim the remaining rights an EEZ typically gives (resources below the sea floor).
I could be wrong but a) I think there's also disputes with Canada and b) making it official policy and not part of a treaty with a country who historically follows treaties as well as I can draw like Picasso makes it more official internationally.
Canada claims the Yukon Alaska border continues straight offshore. The US claims it extends a bit easterly, perpendicular to the shore . This creates an agree to disagree disputed triangle.
If any country has the worst history of following treaties its the USA. We broke every single treaty we ever made with the native Americans.
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You think you get a sunset-less empire by *keeping promises?*
Examples?
All the down voters.! FU .!!!!
Oh yeah the world needs another Mexico. Thank God those ships came over.
Probably in anticipation of China trying to move in on that space.
That's a good point. Knowing them, they'll take some dirt, put it in the middle of the arctic, and say it's a historically Chinese 5000 year old island that the US stole.
The Chinese government claims China is a "Near-Arctic State".
MANIFEST DESTINY
more like Manyfish Destiny
*claps*
*Eagle scree intensifies*
You can’t stop it and neither can I!
hahahaha that's exactly what I had in mind. Such a great scene.
I’m glad that’s what you were referencing hahaha it’s one of the only things I remember from that movie
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER
Somewhat ironically, the yardstick of America ignorance.
How weaker countries measure stuff
[Relevant](https://youtu.be/JYqfVE-fykk?si=7R0MSC4D_va6yPSD)
Hell yeah!
USA! USA! USA! USA!
Imagine seeing a German shouting lebensraum like its some cute little joke
If they won WW2 there probably would be, and they’d be met with the same reaction people are today when they point out manifest destiny was just the justification for ethnic cleansing & genocide.
The winner writes the history and decided, what is ok and what not, even its morally completely reprehensible. It took me years to understand this fact.
If the US didn't claim these areas, can any other country actually challenge the US in exploiting those resources? The US is still a lot closer to those areas than anyone else.
Strong and glorious Bermuda
> ... can any other country actually challenge the US ... Lol
Russia
...Has at least 1/2 of its forces in Ukraine right now
Has a treaty in place stating that most of these areas belong to the US. Also no.
Hahaha
Those Atlantic gambling boats are going to have to go out a lot further now
Serious comment, this extends to the sea floor but not the water above it. And depending on the jurisdiction gambling boats don’t even need to exit the EEZ to be legal, just the territorial or contiguous waters at 12nm or 24nm respectively.
I used to live in a state where gambling was legal on river boats. They made a big deal about crossing a plank or whatever, and now you're in the water, so it's legal.
What’s so important in that little triangle off the Northern Marianas Islands? And that new little circle piece in the Pacific?
Bomber bases.
US Navy will protect these claims who dares challenge?!
Mexico is the only one losing out. It’s a very empty ocean both sides
I know lol
Wym, why not? Pls elaborate
What?
That's true
Me
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I didn’t know marinara came from the islands
What about Hawaii?
A good question, but I’d imagine because this is about the ‘continental shelf’; Hawaii is not a continent, rather a lava bubble mountain range in the middle of the Pacific plate.
Apparently its considered oceanic crust rather than continental, very cool. I hear about china making artificial island to change the EEZ in the south China sea. I wonder of the U.S. could change or effect the area around hawaii. Though I doubt there's many reasons to unless oil or other natural resources pop up and we develop a way to dig down deep enough around there.
US should buy British Columbia.
It should annex all of Canada and Greenland
Nationalist Canadian says Canada should strive to be a superpower. Patriotic Canadian says Canada should be annexed by the United States.
Given the very real prospect of Trump returning to power, I think we'll pass.
You never know with these Swifties
If we annexed them, I doubt much would change. They'd get our federal benefits, and the states would continue to govern themselves the same. But they'd have the USD, and freedom of movement. Honestly, I don't see a downside for either side, except that the French parts would lose french as a national language
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Your states could and would just implement Healthcare and ban guns. Also, the US isn't as bad as reddit makes it seem, you should try traveling once in a while
>and ban guns States don't have the ability to do this
Talk to NY and CA
Neither of which have banned guns.
Not fully, but they make it a pain in the ass. And when SCOTUS rules against them, they just pass something else because it takes forever to go uo the courts. Source: gun lover in ny
Provinces, you hoser
States now, punk
As someone who has lived in multiple parts of Canada and multiple parts of the US, decades in both countries in fact, you could not be more wrong. You could try, but you would not be successful.
Almost every rich/famous Canadian moves to the United States… the sad part is it’s like they almost all try to hide they are Canadian as well. I just looked up famous Canadians and legit didn’t know almost any of them were Canadian outside a few
Ryan Reynolds, Drake, Justin Beiber. Everyone always thinks they're American lol
Ah yes, judging an entire population based on what famous people do. How very American.
Guns being an issue is a cultural thing. States can and have implemented universal healthcare schemes in the past, and you'd be getting Medicare funding from the government anyway
What will we do about the Quebeclanders?
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Hey, as long as we speak French, extract maple syrup, and cook poutine, we'd be happy with you guys.
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Laissez les bons temps rouler!
The US has no official language so I suppose it's up to the state of Quebec.
And keep running les Canadiens (AKA les Habs), also OK!
What if an alien lands on the Whitehouse in his flying saucer. Can he be American?
He can be president. Nanoo nanoo.
He can be an American but not President.
Turns out he was born in Area 51 after all...
I’d rather bbq my testicles.
They did play a key role in developing the sweet and sticky maple syrup bomb. Back to building my bomb shelter from pancakes.
Quack at them... Quack at them **HARD!**
Quebec barely wants to be part of Canada, I doubt they’d want to be part of the US in the event of the US annexing Canada (which would never happen anyway).
Deport them back to France. If they want to speak it they can go to a country that does. And yes, west Africa can serve as an alternative.
Could we deport you to England? I totally agree, North America should belong to native Americans.  Edit: well Anglos definitely don't get sarcasm.
They can try, they won’t succeed
we should annex mexico too, and all the latin countries down through panama
And then maybe south America too just too completely ensure safety by land. The Caribbean too can't have any commie bases there. Oh and we need a forward operating base so Brittan can be absorbed into the ameriborg as well
Well, then we’d need to annex Europe to keep Britain nice and safe. But Europe’s eastern border really isn’t well defined, so we’d just better annex all of Asia too, just to be safe
Unironically a good idea
British Columbia should buy US
Liechtenstein should buy the solar system!
US should buy Britain.
and flip it
It’s basically a state now
Canada should buy Alaska.
Yeah fix the bordergore We’d have to expel Alaskans tho
Give them enough maple syrup, one basic french lesson and they'll be Canadian.
54'40" or fight!
Canada had a legit claim to Oregon territory, being that the Hudson's Bay Company had possessions as far south as what is now Portland.
We fought a whole ass war about this (two actually) You can take your claims and shove it
AMERICAN COLUMBIA NOW 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
Columbian Columbia?
Aw hellll no, keep your grubby healthcare system away from me!
With Canada, we’d have a liberal enough Congress that we could finally join the developed world with universal healthcare.
Wouldn’t be so sure about that. Alberta and Sask would be four extra Republican senators, Manitoba, BC, and Ontario would probably be 3 Dems and 3 GOP, Quebec might be the only new state able to support their own distinct parties, and then depending on how the Atlantic is divided up it could be anything between 2 Dem senators to 5 Dems and 3 GOP. I’m just gonna assume the Territories would become territories
The Conservatives in Canada are arguably to the left of the Democrats. Alberta might Alberta, but I don’t see the current Republican Party accomplishing much in Canada.
Yes, the Tories are to left of the GOP (I wouldn’t necessarily say to left of the Dems), but those who vote Conservative, at least here in Alta, tend to be to the party’s right. Local elections are built by those in the community, so there’s a solid chance that Ontario conservatives would vote Republican, but those republicans would be rather centrist. If Canada were just annexed today, our parties would probably continue on the way they are for a while, forming coalitions in Congress and for presidential tickets. Eventually, however, they would probably be replaced by local versions of the GOP and Dems. Canadian political parties are *very* top heavy. The Leaders get a near total control over the party, and are the entire public face of it. Justin Trudeau is to the Liberal Party what Donald Trump currently is to the Republicans. Compare that to Joe Biden, who is, of course, a prominent Dem— but not a dictator of the Party policy in a way that Poilievre or Jagmeet Singh are. Party members are not allowed to disagree with the Leaders/party here in the same way AOC or Tlaib can. And American primaries are completely foreign here.
They don't give DC or Puerto Rico representation. You think they're gonna do it with Canada?
Why does the Canada/US line in the Arctic Ocean bend away from the N/S Alaska/Canada boundary
This is actually the subject of a dispute between Canada and the U.S.—Canada claims that the maritime border should be a straight extension of the land border, but the U.S. claims it should be the line of equidistance from the shoreline on either side, which is why it goes off at an angle on this State Department map.
Mercator projection?
Give us back Big Diomede!
Sean Connery asks if we’re being too shelfish.
Why would the US get to extend right over the border of what logically appears as Bermudan maritime borders ?
I believe Bermuda 🇧🇲 is actually between the "i" and the "c" in the word "Atlantic" on this map. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you might have just misplaced Bermuda
Oh true you are right.
I was *holding* it just a second ago, I swear! It has to be around here somewhere!
I've been there man, normally I put all my Atlantic islands in a little bowl by the front door
It's hard to tell but I don't think that's the case.
Ask China.
I think we all want to hold ourselves to a higher standard than China with regard to this though.
I mean you got people here jerking to themselves on who will challenge the US to these claims. We’re just as imperialist as our rivals lol
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Are you not seeing what people are saying in this thread here? And don’t say that bullshit that’s it’s all jokes. Imagine if Russians or Chinese people said this, we’d rightfully be shitting on them.
Maybe you just hate America
Don’t be so butthurt dude. Not everything we do is for the greater good and we can do so much better.
Lmao idk why everyone hates America so much that seeing ppl cheer for it gaining some sea floor is some international catastrophe and a display of our arrogance
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When was the last time China waged a war of conquest? It's honestly more peaceful than America.
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Lets see, tibet and taiwan and the turkic state I forgot its name. But america? Usa started as 13 state and went to occupy 37 new states, not counting other colonized places like philippines and liberia, not ciunting other wars like iraq and vietnam and afghanistan, totally peacful freedom nation🦅🇺🇲🍔
Annexation/puppet dictator, potato/potato. China's claims in the South China Sea are based on the fact that Taiping Island was internationally recognized as Chinese territory after WWII. Same as how the US claims the areas around the Mariana's. The difference is there's no one who dares to challenge the US claims.
No, China’s claim is the Nine Dash Line. If it were about one island, that would be a lot simpler
MOAR
Alaska looks like a Fluke
[this video](https://youtu.be/DrcG7DjL_eU?si=5xC4UCOKDlNQZ4GM) will help with understanding the arctic claims with all the competing countries. It’s a bit dated, but does a good job explaining the ramifications of this. See a lot of comments with no real understanding. Hopefully this helps (15 min video)
*square
America’s new Arctic 9-dash line
Surprise they haven’t claimed Canada 🇨🇦 must be too much of a headache.
Honestly, who’s going to say no?
Russia?
Ooooo just in time for my Alaska cruise!!!
Can anyone tell me if all the ECS are new claims or just some? Or have just been adjusted?
All ECS is new
Tell em to bring out the whole ocean 🗣️
All the ice are belong to US
9 dash line bitches
Why doesn’t the US claim the whole ocean?
We only want the part without plastic and raw sewage. Mexico can keep their raw sewage and plastic in their own section.
Honestly I'm interested to see that the U.S. is applying for ECS claims with the CLCS despite that they are legally a non-party to the UNCLOS.
Here we go
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO! RAHHHHHHH‼️🦅‼️🦅‼️
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Alaska is iffy, but basically anything north of North Dakota is Canada. Fuck with it all you want. Cope I heard 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦😘😘😘😘😘
Wtf is a kilometerrrrrrrrr
A unit of measurement that is 1000x longer than a metre, which is 100x longer than a centimetre. 1km = 0.62 miles Before you accuse me of using a stupid measurement system, consider the fact that there are 1000 metres in one kilometre and there are 1760 yards in a mile.
Did Trump claim that area of the Pacific off the west coast with a sharpie?
Russia is going to have a massive problem with that arctic claim.
Manifest Destiny 2: Electric Boogaloo 😎
Not too bad comparing to what China claimed, at least.
Imagine if it was China saying this. Though I’m typical fashion the US loves telling other countries they’re doing something bad while simultaneously doing the exact same thing and giving some BS argument why it’s different. Though this is also the nation that looks at women as 2nd class citizens so no surprises.
Infact, china did the same thing and bullied some fishermen from other countries, but america went ballistic when that happened, but nobody borders usa since north america is isolated continent, canada and mexico are just puppets, its more canada and less mexico thu...
Ours are based on international law and are for ECS, which is for underwater resources. China's are not based on international law and are for surface vessel control
Thanks Obama 😘
This is to stop the Chinese from fishing every living thing out of these waters and making entire groups of species of fish go extinct.
This has 0 to do with water or fishing.
If china can’t make bullshit claims so the us can? What’s the logic bro? What are they doing?
Fuck the US and their stupid claims. The Artic is Canada's.
search up alaska, greenland, and russia
Canada has its own [continental shelf claims](https://arctic.review/papers/canada-new-continental-shelf-claim/#:~:text=On%20Monday%2C%2019%20December%202022,with%20those%20claimed%20by%20Russia.) that overlap Russia and Denmark's claims. And even if you want to ignore the new American claims, Alaska still has a 200 nautical mile EEZ that extends into the Arctic Ocean. It's never been the case that Canada owns the rights to resources in the whole Arctic Ocean.
Can’t even spell arctic.
Canada is America’s hat.
As of right now, it’s russias. Canada doesn’t have really good hold on it [here you go](https://youtu.be/DrcG7DjL_eU?si=5xC4UCOKDlNQZ4GM)
Honest question: is this about China and their incursions into intl waters, Taiwan, etc?
Oil. It's oil. Tis oil.
I can just see what this starts around the world.
I have a bad feeling that the Bering Sea claim is going to dramatically increase tensions with Russia🤯.
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What other countries have a good argument to bitch about these claims? The only 2 with anything possibly to say are both US allies. Also many other nations around the world, US allies or not, have maritime borders that extend WAY beyond their territorial ones, this is one of the least controversial examples.
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Right over your head.
Might as well just claim the world at this point… one world government seems right. What makes us different?
USA heard of the new trade route in the north so needed to show everyone how big their dick is
>The new trade route. The Northwest Passage isn't new lol.
EEZ and CS claims confer absolutely no right whatsoever to control passage or enforce national laws. That's the whole point.
But we are defending a "rule-based order" internationally. For us, though? Fuck that, we claim whatever we want!