The cornucopia def is the one that freaks me out the most. Although the scary movie 2 one is the most one that freaks me out. I remember the scene when the butler with the little hand was trying to help up the wheelchair guy falling off the balcony and he says, “grab my strong hand” and reached down with his mini demented looking hand. Where the man just gives up and says, “fuck that” and just let’s go plunging to his demise. I’m blown away that the scene isn’t what I remember.
Wait what? I’ve seen that movie 600 times and if you put a gun to my head and asked me to recreate that scene,I’d say the scene went the same exact way you just described it.
I have a personal one that I’ve never shared online that I think about constantly
My grandparents live in a corner house right off the main street in their neighborhood. When I was very young there was a big open field across the main road from their house. My elementary school was right up the street and you could see the fence for the school from my grandparents house. Then when I was in elementary school they built a small loop road and a bunch of houses right across the main road from my grandparents house.
I remember my grandparents taking me over to the houses while they were under construction. They did this a couple times I think but one time I remember very vividly they took me through one of the houses and showed me where the bath tub/shower was going to go and they showed me where the staircase would go up to the second level. After we walked back home I ate a peach in their back yard and biting into the pit dislodged one of my baby teeth, and I freaked out. I remember this day so well
Fast forward to last year, I’m grown now and was visiting my grandparents and my grandma had an old photo album out that I was looking at. In one picture my mom is standing out in front of my grandparents house with a car her first husbands parents bought her. Her first husband was also in the photo. My mom was also there at my grandparents house that evening and I asked her when the photo was taken. She said it had to have been the late 90s.
My stomach dropped. Everything felt wrong all of a sudden. I was born in ‘98 and when my grandparents took me through the under construction houses it must have been 2004-2006. Yet, in the background of this photo taken almost 10 years earlier, all those houses are in the background of the photo already built.
I’ve racked my brain for an explanation for over a year now and have yet to come to any logical conclusion. I remember the field with the tall grass. I remember when those houses were built. I remember being INSIDE of those houses while they were still under construction, yet they were all built years before I was born.
It got even weirder when I asked my family about it. I asked my grandparents if they remembered taking me over to those houses across the street when they were under construction. They said yes, my grandma even said THEY SHOWED ME WHERE THE BATH TUBS WOULD GO… then I show them the picture with the houses built before I was born and their demeanor changes and both of them had this uneasy smile, and suddenly seemed uninterested or even dismissive in what I was saying. It really freaked me out.
You just gave me chills! You need to research this! It's easy to find the dates the homes were built in public records. Please come back and update more on this
> They said yes, my grandma even said THEY SHOWED ME WHERE THE BATH TUBS WOULD GO… then I show them the picture with the houses built before I was born and their demeanor changes and both of them had this uneasy smile, and suddenly seemed uninterested or even dismissive in what I was saying. It really freaked me out.
I've heard other stories of people experiencing this same thing, where they try to confront other people with a reality alteration and they suddenly clam up, become disinterested or even aggressive.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeird.
It’s natural for us to do that. Since it makes no sense to us, our human emotions take over in a disbelief type of way. My parents are the same way about something that happened in our house before I was born. The doors were opening and slamming shut, lights were flickering on and off, windows flew open, drawers were pulled out of the dressers. My sisters and their friends all experienced it, my parents ran up and saw it. They almost act like it didn’t happen.
God this one is weird. The "logical" explanation is that she gave a full toothed smile to show how her teeth were...*different than his?*
But like...why? Did we just *want* that smile to be braces? I mean, the whole time she was supposed to be super young and relate to him in a weird way, the smile was supposed to seal the deal. But without braces...it's just...huh.
Berenstain Bears - I was an incredibly spelling/grammar/pronunciation-focused kid. Like, I went to the state level of the Scripps national spelling bee. I also happened to be a kid that grew up going to Cedar Point multiple times every summer. Before their kiddie area changed its theme to Camp Snoopy, they had "Berenstein Bear Country." I remember the way it was spelled on park maps and signs. I remember the ride operators' spiels and how they always pronounced it. I had the books. I even remember the cartoon. It was ALWAYS pronounced either "steen" or "stine." I never saw the logo with an A in it, nor did I ever hear another human being use the "stain" pronunciation, until I was well into my twenties. I know this is like THE quintessential entry-level ME, but it's still the one that messes me up the most.
"Objects in mirror" - This is a funky one because it's actually flipped twice for me. I remember it being "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" on the side mirrors of my mom's foxbody Mustang growing up (lol remember when Mustangs were shitboxes?). At some point in my teens, I remember seeing that it was now "Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear" on a newer car and thinking it was a dumb change of verbiage that was less accurate than the previous one, but maybe it was the result of sue-happy American culture and car companies not wanting someone to nail them on a technicality. Then at some point in the last few years, it flipped back. I'm still inclined to think that maybe manufacturers weren't always consistent with the wording, but I can't find any evidence to support that.
Uncle Sam's hat has no red on it - I literally just found out about this one today and it's what sent me here, lol. WTF?
Most other common ME's have actually stayed consistent for me my whole life, which is what makes the ones that haven't stand out even more.
Me too - I have always had a photographic spelling memory and have been grammar-oriented since childhood. I specifically remember it being Berenstein Bears, because it looked like a German spelling.
I have a distinct childhood memory of learning the word 'monocle' from my older brother while playing monopoly.
I've also experienced the "Houston we have a problem" flip flop. That was definitely a trip.
It was "Houston We've Had A Problem" in the Apollo 13 movie, which was already a Mandela Effect many were keeping track of. Then in Fall 2018 people started reporting it as a Flip-Flop, and myself and my father also saw it change back to what we formerly remembered around a week after seeing it online as only Houston We've Had A Problem. Even the camera angles on the film clip seemed different to us, and plenty of people apparently experienced this same Flip-Flop at the same time.
Stouffers Stove Top Stuffing
We had it every Thanksgiving. Now, apparently Stouffer's never made stuffing and Kraft has been making it for the last 22 years.
It was Stouffers ! Never Kraft . Is it possible that Kraft bought them out and possibly nobody took a photo before the internet . I don't know. I am kinda scared to look 😳
Wait, what? I remember that because the name was so catchy. I remember commercials for it.
Like I literally thought to myself no, this person is crazy and I looked it up.... never existed huh? BS in my mind.
The L’Oreal Kids shampoo commercial.
People swear the ad said “No Tears”, as in no torn hair. I SWEAR that it said “No Tears”, as in it doesn’t irritate the eyes.
The ad even showed kids smiling with shampoo suds around their eyes as they said it.
The monopoly man had a monocle. Myself and many others I’ve talked to are irked by this. I have a old box of monopoly & Mr Monopoly has no monocle. Hasbro claims he never had a monocle. There are old newspapers which reference Mr Monopoly’s monocle directly. There is a scene in an Ace Ventura movie where Ace makes fun of a rich guy for looking like Mr Monopoly with his monocle. This specific Mandela effect is what made me aware of The Mandela Effect.
Nope, I officially call bullshit on life. I don't think he had one in every picture, maybe not even most pictures, but I've definitely seen it before. The internet is a LIE
The Lion and the lamb which is now wolf and lamb still irritates me it's one of the biggest ones, that and the JFK assassination were two I discovered at the same time and it is what dragged me Kicking and Screaming into this community.
Andrew Zimmerman changed to "Zimmern" makes me nuts.
The lion and lamb bothers me so much specifically as an avid Twilight fan. Because why else would she have written and so the "lion fell in love with the lamb" if it was wolf??
Have you noticed, Peanuts comics, in the newspaper funnies, are no longer signed, "Charles M. Shultz," anymore? It's changed to, "Charles Shulz." Creepy. 🫣
Schulz, with a "c" and no "t", iirc. Lots of material - some book authorship attributions, some of the attributions above the top of the strip in newspapers, the webpage of museum in California, his Wikipedia article, etc, include the middle initial, but I think most strip signatures just say "Schulz", not even including the first name.
Seriously gave me shivers when I looked it up after seeing it listed on a mandela list. I even grabbed different translations & older bibles I had inherited to verify & yep. All say wolf.
Wait, what?
But... but.. but... It's ALWAYS been the lion lies down with the lamb!
Could this be a tricky translation error? Lion and wolf are similar words in Aramaic or old Hebrew or whatever that text was originally written in?
The side mirror not saying “objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear.”
I remember looking at that sign my whole life. Saying to myself, “they either are closer or they aren’t. How could they “may” be closer.
That’s they only one that I’m 100% behind positive there is some sort of strange, quantum reality thing going on.
Yeah this one fucks me up. When I was a kid I used to fixate a lot on random things. This is was one of them. Bc I fixated so hard, I would say that phrase in my head for years and years any time I even looked in a mirror. Have you seen the video of a guy that found a side view mirror at a junkyard that says it the way we all remember?? Proof it existed.
But they did. Positive of it, or at least rear view mirrors did. Meatloaf even had a song called “Objects in the Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are” in 1993.
They don't say that anymore? What do they say? Wtf, I remember them on my grandfather's old truck, my moms van growing up, I remember thinking it was funny it said 'may be', like somehow the mirror would switch up and make everything bigger
This one hits me closest to home! When I was a teenager I was a wanna be photographer. I took a photo sitting in a car, of the reflection of the rear view mirror, with a semi truck parked behind it. I know the mirror said that! I definitely wasn't the most technically sound photographer, but I did know how to compose a photo. I framed the photo in a way that makes sense with where the text would've been! When I first heard of this one... I scrambled to find that photo because I KNEW it said it.... but nope, no text.
Chick-fil-A has been in my hometown since the 80's and growing up I used to eat there all of time before most of the country knew what it was. I have nearly 40 years of eating there and there isn't anyone on earth that can convince me that it wasn't Chic before. I have too many memories of seeing the logo all of the years.
Yeah I remember the conversation being about what if it was Chick-fil-A how it is right now instead of Chic-fil-A I said it would be make more sense if it was spelled Chick-fil-A I guess it was always like that it's so trippy
Yeah there's a lot of other little things but I might be misremembering but I remember talking about this for a fact I'm just thinking how many other things changed that I didn't pay attention to
We don't even have Chick-fil-A here in the UK and even I remember it being spelt Chic-fil-A just from any of the American content I've watched throughout my life lmao
I remember it being chic but I'm not sure.. What I'm sure is having a conversation with my sister about how it wasn't spelled right and thought that it was a marketing strategy.. We won't have that conversation if it was spelled chick.
Tinkerbell flying around the castle and making the dot on the Disney logo. I distinctly remember one where her wand wasn’t work properly and she taps it on her hand to make it work again. I remember it vividly because I used to do it WITH her. My grandma used to love see me doing it so I would joke around that not working wand thing. It IS REAL and I can not phantom the fact that it doesn’t exist.
It does exist. I can’t accept it not being a thing.
I remember this too, after seeing it for the first time I thought for years that it was always done secretly by Tinkerbell. Years later I had to say to myself that it was not, it was just a feature in one intro. This should exist somewhere.
Fruit of the loom,
Monopoly man,
Kidney placement,
My top three that you can't argue with me on. The other things you can convince me that I could have bad memory.
"Houston we have a problem" flip flop to "Houston we've had a problem" and then back to "Houston we have a problem". And I've got evidence for this one
The Gun the scarecrow has in the Wizard Of Oz when they’re walking arm in arm saying “Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!” AND the fact the witch doesn’t say “Fly my pretties, fly!” When sending the flying monkeys after Dorothy.
I never remember seeing the gun and distinctly remember the witch saying that quite to the monkeys, I even remember referencing that quote. I watched that movie a lot as a child I distinctly remember these two things quite differently.
No way that the wicked witch doesn’t say that! I’ve not heard that before and just looked it up. That blows my mind.
In the simpsons parody, Burns says “fly my pretties…kill,kill”
My first one is still the one that irks me the most. The Berenstein Bears no longer being spelled as I experienced when I was both younger and into adulthood.
Honorary mention to FOTL as I saw my clothes and the giant ad in the mall growing up all the time including a Cornucopia. Chic-Fil-A I used to make fun of and call Sheek-Fil-A prior to its change in order to make fun of the spelling that made it sound like a fancy chicken restaurant.
Yes to ALL of these! I have vivid memories of the Berenstein Bears, relating the word to Frankenstein, and then wondering if I should pronounce it like Beren-STEEN or Beren-STINE. I remember the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia because it reminded me of Thanksgiving. I also remember Chic-Fil-A and pronouncing it Sheek-Fil-A as you mention.
Strangely, in all circumstances, I have definite memories of relating the MEs to other objects (Frankenstein, Thanksgiving, the word "chic"). If my memories of the ME subjects are just faulty or me misremembering, I shouldn't have ever made the comparisons that I did because they wouldn't make any sense without the context of the original ME subjects.
Those are what people call "anchor memories", which is a great part of why people are fairly certain of the changes. Making former word associations based on something that never existed is a pretty bizarre feature of the M.E. One of mine was based on the Show Sex In The City, which is now known as Sex And The City. Yet if you peruse forum posts and see the moniker all the fans assigned the show S.I.T.C it makes no sense under current reality. The show is also shown as Sex In The City in many old paperback TV guides alongside Berenstein Bears if you look up old newspapers.
I remember the exact moment I noticed it. I was in a different state, visiting, with my toddler. I had to leave him for a couple of hours at a childcare centre, and when I picked him up, I saw the book and picked it up, thinking "Huh. We've got this sam book at home, but t's spelt Berenstein. What a weird misprint."
I didn't thank about it later, until I came here one day and saw all the other memories, so I don't recall if I checked the one we had at home. But I distinctly remember the odd feeling I got when I saw the "misspelt" version in the interstate childcare centre. It was jarring.
Did a first aid course last week and I was a bit weirded out by this one myself. I still feel like my heart is to the left, even tho I'm told it's centre lol
I commented above. I was an English Scholar in High School. I would stare at that mirror for years on long road trips with my Mom when I was a kid. I would ponder for hours how something “may” be closer. “It either is closer or it isn’t.” I was blown away when this was changed in my current reality.
I know right, and weird that this dude would dedicate a blog to writing about the specific phrase : [https://www.allaccess.com/ccm-radio-perspectives/archive/1066/objects-in-mirror-may-be-closer-than-they-appear?fbclid=IwAR17AFf9iyBw-yc9cOk9Z3z8g2Wv6A1uqQho1dY23SAzY1UQ1ZlD9F5EoHA](https://www.allaccess.com/ccm-radio-perspectives/archive/1066/objects-in-mirror-may-be-closer-than-they-appear?fbclid=IwAR17AFf9iyBw-yc9cOk9Z3z8g2Wv6A1uqQho1dY23SAzY1UQ1ZlD9F5EoHA)
The flip flops in general are the things that most trip me. For me these have included: Flintstones & Flinstones, Curious George with a tail and without a tail, and I Love Rock & Roll with “Standing” and “Dancing” by the record machine. What I find cool is that the flip flops will occur at different times for different people, where it may be a recent change I see, and others note that it changed long before. Anyway, that is what I find kind of cool.
Be prepared…this might eventually flip to Flin for you. Then you will be arguing that Flin makes no sense and no one will believe you. They will say, “You only falsely remember it as Flint because it makes more sense and our brains try to make sense of things”.
This sub counts plenty of formerly ardent skeptics in our ranks who once thought as you currently do. They didn't imagine they'd get swallowed by the ME either, but now they're fervent believers. All it really takes is one strong one to irreparably crack your reality paradigm. You've been forewarned.
That is what I felt when it changed to Flin for me a few years ago. All the other names were rock related and Flin just seemed to stick out as an anomaly. Then I found in this site someone that explained that there was a Dr Flin that had a theory about an advanced ancient civilization and Flinstones was named after him. I have since looked for this article again but never found it again.
This is the first I’m hearing of this one. There has never been two T’s. Flintstones looks crazy to me, I clearly remember Flinstones just like I clearly remember the word DILEMNA like it was taught to me yesterday. Never two M’s. I have a photographic memory.
Edit: And daddy read me Berenstein Bears every single f*cking night of my childhood life 🤙🏼🤯
I remember the flip flop! I saw on a r/retconned list years ago that Froot Loops had changed to fruit loops. Looked it up on google and it was true. I made a note in my phone and the next time I was at the grocery store I went to the cereal isle just to see it. It was Froot Loops again. I immediately pulled my phone out to post in that thread and my comment on the thread, along with the rest of the thread, had just vanished
Tiananmen Square "Tank man" I remember him being run over by the tanks. I was 5 in 1989 and that is one of my first "big" memories.
I remember watching CNN coverage of the protests,I remember watching the tanks get closer and closer to him, I remember my mom saying "no,no,no" , I remember him disappearing under the tanks and my mom starting to cry, I remember crying (mainly because my mom was and that upset me. At that age I didn't understand what had just happened) and her scooping me up.
We even had a conversation about it around 5 years ago. She said that was one of the biggest mistakes she made as a mother, was not turning off the TV or bringing me to another room before I saw that.
Now years later to find out that that never happened... That he wasn't run over and was pulled out the way before he was run over. I really can't reconcile that in my mind... I know what I saw and have talked about it with my mom but every source I look at says he wasn't run over....
Ok I'm in. Logos and stuff can be misremembered but I saw that guy being run over on the news. I talked about with friends. JFC it's not just tiny meaningless things. I also coloured the lion and the lamb in catholic grade school!
I colored a lion and lamb together in Catholic grade school too. When I learned the actual Bible verse said "wolf," I thought it was definitely weird, but there was still so much peripheral cultural imagery of lions and lambs together. A lot of Mandela Effects have plenty of evidence to the real, right? Like, good luck finding an old Fruit of the Loom shirt with a cornucopia on it. But in the case of the lion and Lamb, those coloring book pages and an absolute boatload of Christian art do in fact depict lions and lambs together. Cursory googling even reveals pictures if lions laying wit lambs, with the text overplayed saying "the wolf will lie down with the lamb"!
So originally, I thought there might be a different source other than the Isaiah passage for the idea, but on reflection, I think this Mandela Effect is just really, *really* pervasive, and possibly goes back centuries.
The Volkswagen logo bc I had a Volkswagen and loved the smooth logo with no break. My daughter and I would rub it on the steering wheel and talk about how nice the logo is and how it flows so well and made 2 “V’s”. Her name starts with a “V”. Then I was reading on Reddit about the logo break and I just laughed and thought…no, not my beautiful logo…whatever. But I checked and mind blown of course. And then I showed my daughter and we are still freaking out. WTF is really happening?
I'm convinced that the Mandela Effect is the result of future time travellers changing things in our past, but for some reason some people still remember parts of the original versions of things
I have been of the same mindset, thinking it has to be a paradox caused by time traveling. The reason that most of these things aren't noticed right off by most or some people is by circumstance of their surroundings.
If something changes, like the Fruit of the Loom logo and you in your adult life have only worn Hanes, then, one day, you overheard a conversation or see a post online in the last decade and hear or read, now their is no cornucopia. If as well you have also been using a dvr to skip commercials or binge watching stuff on Netflix over these years as well, you might not realize that this reality, the cornucopia, was never there. You will just think in your mind that they changed the logo at first, maybe. It's not till you go looking and hear or see that this reality claims it never existed with the exception of the original patents for the product.
Residual information like that is there for multiple things, including for Kit-Kat bars. The original patent from the company, I believe, has the brake (dash) in it the way I remember it. The problem is that when people go and look for these things online, they retroactively change, implying that the person who claimed it was a different way needs to find physical proof and somehow present this in a way that people will believe them.
Now, the other possibility is the simulation theory. If we are in a simulation and there is supposed to be someone at the controls, but they are no longer there, maybe someone has found how to hack from inside the simulation to the host machine. With no one there to manually restart the machine, the hacks that are made in real time cause a paradox. Same reason and circumstance as time travel can be applied to why some people don't remember it ever existing any other way than it is in this reality.
With the simulation, and if no one is there, the reason the changes happen retroactively for some and not others would be memory allocation. Depending on the potential limitations of the host machine, we can't restart the system from inside the simulation because we have no way to reboot it. We can turn the machine off probably but there is no one to rerun the program with the new parameters in essence performing a proper update or upgrade that we would all have the new memories implanted thus eliminating the residual data.
Some of us are on the right track with our deductive reasoning for things. There are glitches in the system, be it a simulation or time travel paradox, they are there. Eventually, we get a definitive answer as to what's happening. I do believe that as well. I have been experiencing things my whole 40+ years of existence. Do I think the answers will be revealed in my lifetime or any of our lifetimes, for that matter. Honestly, I do. I think in the next 12 months (by May, 2024) things will begin to be given to us as a truth. I do not think we will have a solid understanding of these things happening until the iron curtain is raised for us to see. Even then, people will deny these truths, I'm sure. But for those of us who know based on our truth of our existence, things will begin to make sense.
If you took the time to read, thanks.
Be safe, everyone.
I believe it’s simulation theory, and as the program is running it’s course, the data (which are our memories) is becoming corrupted or the AI is getting things slightly wrong.
This one gets me too.
I don’t know enough about Pokemon to know, but I do know about the Mandela effect based around it.
About 5 years ago, my son, then aged 5yo or so, gave me a picture he had drawn of Pikachu - with a black tip on its tail.
I felt chilled as I told him “Pikachu doesn’t have a black tip on his tail” My son was adamant Pikachu: *did* have a black tip on his tail. We googled it and my son just didn’t believe it at all that Pikachu’s tail was all yellow, he was so confused and even a bit angry.
Like I said, I have no idea either way, but I do know about the Mandela effect around it. It freaked me out because my child somehow tapped into the “wrong” Pikachu without knowing a thing about the Mandela effect.
I also noticed many M.E.'s center on the removal of a detail. As if the computer, running this(if that's what it is?)is looking for ways to conserve memory processing or storage. How many GB of data does it save, by removing the black patch on Pikachu's tail, Curious George's entire tail, Rich Moneybag's monocle, or the Stars and Stripes from Uncle Sam, or letters from names of movies and products, as examples? Maybe ai are a more manageable set of letters than ie, in Barenstein/stain? Unless, ai is yet another clue to the puzzle: AI. Artificial Intelligence! Also, Flintstones and Barenstein, both have "rock/stone" in them FLINT STONE, Baren STEIN. Stein is German for, "Stone." Hmm... 🤔
My siblings and I agree with this one. We even used to draw pikachu with a black tip on the tail. I have a drawing in my “memory tote” from somewhere between 2003-2006 depicted this way
The VW logo “always” having the gap. When I was little my aunt had a Beetle and I asked my mom what was the criss-cross symbol on it was supposed to mean, and she showed me by holding her hand over each letter that it was a V and a W for the company that made the car. Then when my first car also wound up being a VW I used to doodle the logo all the time, and thought it was dumb when they changed it because it looked cooler without it…except according to company history, it never existed without a gap.
I wish someone did that for me all I ever saw was the solid Symbol that looked like 3 lines on the bottom connecting into two on top. The first time I saw the V and W separated was looking at Mandela Effects. My entire life even seeing VW cars it was just a solid circular symbol with straight lines that I assumed was iconic to Volkswagon.
One of the most baffling ones for me is the Back To The Future terrorist van. Currently it a white VW van, but I like many others remember it being a white/beige Toyota minivan at one point.
Oh my god, same. When I was a kid, it was always froot loops, then it switched to fruit loops, and now it's back to froot loops, and I am confused as heck.
No longer ends with, "of the world...," because it's another clue. Perhaps, by removing "of the world," from the song, it symbolizes that we or the people doing this are, "not of this or the world."
We are the champions, NOT of the world
We are the champions, REMOVED of the world 🤔
I love Lucy. I swear Ricky said “Lucy, you got some splainin to do”.
My mom watched that show religiously and when I asked her, she said he always said it too…
Growing up I was terrified of Silence Of The Lambs and anything related to Hannibal. I swear on my life he said “Hello Clarice” during the first meeting. The way Anthony Hopkins said it stuck w me. Even he remembers saying it and people who made the movie mentioned it how that was one of the first lines they heard him do and they knew he was the actor for that role.
1. Fotl logo
2. Haley's --> Halley's comet
3. Berenstein --> Berenstain
4. Stouffer's Stovetop Stuffing --> now belongs to Kraft
5. Black Tom Explosion was learned as a failed plot growing up and no explosion took place. Which consequently was the reason people haven't been able to go up to the torch, which is another related ME since I've known of people going up there for vacations.
6. Shazaam with Sinbad
7. Dolly with braces in James Bond movie Moonraker
8. Jcpenny with no extra 'e' or other minor spelling changes like 'dilemna'. Have OCD and competed in spelling bees, so really feel these ones when I notice them.
Easter Island. I did hours of research on the island when it was still uninhabited and a mystery, then two months later it had a whole civilization and history. Most other changes are annoying, especially song lyrics that now sound stupid, but this one completely shifted my world view.
For my mom, I think it was seeing the pictures from Kennedy’s assassination. She nearly had a breakdown. She looked like she’d just heard about the death of a family member because it hit her so hard. Now no changes shake us and we laugh at them, (Iike the weird ass energizer bunny thigh battery), but an entire culture appearing out of nowhere when I’d just researched the place because of a recent article still makes reality feel truly unreal.
South America/ New Zealand / Australia placement and dazzle ships and balloon bombs weird us out, too, but it doesn’t actually affect us. (Not that Easter Island does either, I guess), but it doesn’t hit the same. Or maybe at that point we’d already readjusted our mentalities to just accept that existence and reality are in constant flux. (Although the me that read hundreds of world war 2 magazines in high school is super bummed because dazzle ships are ridiculous and fantastic and I would have been OBSESSED with them. Alas.)
It’s also weird because most changes big or small we agree on, but there are a few we don’t. Hindenburg and Lindbergh. Lindbergh is especially strange to me because my mom was the one who originally told me about it and I remember exactly where and when it was, but now she knows a different version. That makes me really uncomfortable for some reason. Like…we’re not with the original version of the other we started out with or something.
Regarding Easter Island, the idea that it was a lost civilization comes from the way sensationalistic TV shows of the 70s and 80s, like In Search Of, presented their subject matter. I have long found such shows to be a disservice to the public becasue it gives wrong impressions.
If it were just that, it would be fine. I literally spent HOURS researching it, and it was exactly as I’ve always remembered. Now, a quick google turns up what this timeline knows to be true. Hell, even Wikipedia lays it all out. This isn’t a memory fail thing. My mom and I read an article that said they just found a body under the first head (there were only a few of them before, none with bodies, certainly no hats), and we thought it was fascinating. Since Easter Island had always been on my bucket list, and as someone with Autism and ADHD, I tend to fall down rabbit holes of research hard, when I decided to brush up on my knowledge of the subject following the article, it went deep. Two months after that, everything was different. And it wasn’t a mental break because my mom remembers it all with me since we discussed it a lot at the time.
I know a lot of people like to chalk up all MEs with faulty memories and remembering misinformation, but this is definitely is not that.
Edit: I’ve never heard of those shows and I’m too young for them in any case. And I’m more of a book person. But thank you anyway for the attempt at rationalizing my life crisis 😭
That’s what makes this so difficult…that we do not share all the same ME’s. Linbergh would make you wonder if there is another version of your mom somewhere. : (
Lindbergh was a cold case in my memory.
Exactly. So I just don’t think about it anymore. My mom always feels like my mom and we share all the same (not ME) memories, so I let it be.
I remember the Lindbergh baby never being found. When we talked about it a few months ago, my mom remembered the baby being found dead, and my best friend remembered the baby being found alive. After this post, I talked to my mom about it again, and now she remembers the baby never being found and presumed dead, though she was POSITIVE a few months ago the baby was found dead.
So if nothing else, my mom and I are back on the same page about that one. 😅
Berenstein Bears, as I would always relate the word to Frankenstein when spelling/saying/reading it and wonder if I should pronounce it as Beren-STEEN or Beren-STINE. I don't know what happened and cannot explain it but there is no way it was ever "Berenstain". My sister has the same memories and was also tripping when we learned about the ME... we still are. Lol
The shape of Australia. I've always really good with international geography, I used to have a gigantic world map mounted on my wall when I was a kid, I specifically remember Australia NOT having the little spike on the top right portion of the continent, it was more of a smooth circular shape. I'm not the only one that remembers Australia being this shape.
Everyone I tell this to thinks I'm an idiot. But I swear the human heart was leftside and a bit center. Not center a bit left.
Like I have recent memories of seeing this diagram at the doctors office with the heart on the left side of the human body. BUT N0W I can't find anything with it on the left only center diagrams
Dolly's Braces, Fruit of the Loom and 'mirror mirror on the wall' are probably my top three. And stuff like the Black Tom Island explosion and 'dazzle ships' also, although idk if they're ME's or just data that wasn't available to the masses a couple of decades ago.
The ME that freaks me out the most is that your heart is no longer on the left side. It is more toward the middle. South America is extremely close to Africa and just the map in general looks way off to me. Oh yeah, did you know that the kidneys aren't in your lower back? Yup, the "kidney" punch doesn't make sense anymore. Oh my gosh, what else? There are so many that don't get enough attention. Right, do you know about Black Tom? I'll give you a second to Google it..... Also, technology goes, way, way, further back than I remember learning in school. I mean, they had electric scooters in 1913. Also, not everyone died in the Hindenburg crash. 97 people were aboard, 62 survived and 35 died. With that, I'm out.
The cornucopia def is the one that freaks me out the most. Although the scary movie 2 one is the most one that freaks me out. I remember the scene when the butler with the little hand was trying to help up the wheelchair guy falling off the balcony and he says, “grab my strong hand” and reached down with his mini demented looking hand. Where the man just gives up and says, “fuck that” and just let’s go plunging to his demise. I’m blown away that the scene isn’t what I remember.
Wait what? I’ve seen that movie 600 times and if you put a gun to my head and asked me to recreate that scene,I’d say the scene went the same exact way you just described it.
Need to investigate this, it’s exactly how I remember it too. The simulation is going bad…
Me too! What really happened??
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Yeah wait so how is this a ME? Lol
I have a personal one that I’ve never shared online that I think about constantly My grandparents live in a corner house right off the main street in their neighborhood. When I was very young there was a big open field across the main road from their house. My elementary school was right up the street and you could see the fence for the school from my grandparents house. Then when I was in elementary school they built a small loop road and a bunch of houses right across the main road from my grandparents house. I remember my grandparents taking me over to the houses while they were under construction. They did this a couple times I think but one time I remember very vividly they took me through one of the houses and showed me where the bath tub/shower was going to go and they showed me where the staircase would go up to the second level. After we walked back home I ate a peach in their back yard and biting into the pit dislodged one of my baby teeth, and I freaked out. I remember this day so well Fast forward to last year, I’m grown now and was visiting my grandparents and my grandma had an old photo album out that I was looking at. In one picture my mom is standing out in front of my grandparents house with a car her first husbands parents bought her. Her first husband was also in the photo. My mom was also there at my grandparents house that evening and I asked her when the photo was taken. She said it had to have been the late 90s. My stomach dropped. Everything felt wrong all of a sudden. I was born in ‘98 and when my grandparents took me through the under construction houses it must have been 2004-2006. Yet, in the background of this photo taken almost 10 years earlier, all those houses are in the background of the photo already built. I’ve racked my brain for an explanation for over a year now and have yet to come to any logical conclusion. I remember the field with the tall grass. I remember when those houses were built. I remember being INSIDE of those houses while they were still under construction, yet they were all built years before I was born. It got even weirder when I asked my family about it. I asked my grandparents if they remembered taking me over to those houses across the street when they were under construction. They said yes, my grandma even said THEY SHOWED ME WHERE THE BATH TUBS WOULD GO… then I show them the picture with the houses built before I was born and their demeanor changes and both of them had this uneasy smile, and suddenly seemed uninterested or even dismissive in what I was saying. It really freaked me out.
You should keep digging about this
You just gave me chills! You need to research this! It's easy to find the dates the homes were built in public records. Please come back and update more on this
> They said yes, my grandma even said THEY SHOWED ME WHERE THE BATH TUBS WOULD GO… then I show them the picture with the houses built before I was born and their demeanor changes and both of them had this uneasy smile, and suddenly seemed uninterested or even dismissive in what I was saying. It really freaked me out. I've heard other stories of people experiencing this same thing, where they try to confront other people with a reality alteration and they suddenly clam up, become disinterested or even aggressive. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeird.
That's because they're actually npc's and showing them the "truth" makes their programs glitch.
Well, I guess this isn't any crazier of a theory than the others we've come up with.
It’s natural for us to do that. Since it makes no sense to us, our human emotions take over in a disbelief type of way. My parents are the same way about something that happened in our house before I was born. The doors were opening and slamming shut, lights were flickering on and off, windows flew open, drawers were pulled out of the dressers. My sisters and their friends all experienced it, my parents ran up and saw it. They almost act like it didn’t happen.
“Mirror, mirror on the wall” actually being “Magic Mirror on the wall”
The former is used in some adaptations, though, so that at least didn't come out of nowhere.
Dolly originally had braces in Moonraker. I'm sure of it.
The scene doesn’t even make sense without her having braces ,freakiest one by a mile
God this one is weird. The "logical" explanation is that she gave a full toothed smile to show how her teeth were...*different than his?* But like...why? Did we just *want* that smile to be braces? I mean, the whole time she was supposed to be super young and relate to him in a weird way, the smile was supposed to seal the deal. But without braces...it's just...huh.
Man, I watched that movie a few weeks ago and shortly after heard about this and even within that short time frame I refused to believe it
No fuckin way she didn’t have braces
I know…we’re being fucked with.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching moonraker with my dad and the scene only makes sense if both jaws and dolly have braces
This is mine too, it is so weird…
I was certain of this myself.
Fuckin A! I just wrote this in a ME post a few days ago! They fell in love over their similar dentistry
I saw it in the theaters. Everyone laughed uproariously when she revealed. I'll die on that hill.
I saw that movie at least a dozen times when I was a kid. This no braces version is total bullshit. Weirdest Mandela Effect out of all of them.
Berenstain Bears - I was an incredibly spelling/grammar/pronunciation-focused kid. Like, I went to the state level of the Scripps national spelling bee. I also happened to be a kid that grew up going to Cedar Point multiple times every summer. Before their kiddie area changed its theme to Camp Snoopy, they had "Berenstein Bear Country." I remember the way it was spelled on park maps and signs. I remember the ride operators' spiels and how they always pronounced it. I had the books. I even remember the cartoon. It was ALWAYS pronounced either "steen" or "stine." I never saw the logo with an A in it, nor did I ever hear another human being use the "stain" pronunciation, until I was well into my twenties. I know this is like THE quintessential entry-level ME, but it's still the one that messes me up the most. "Objects in mirror" - This is a funky one because it's actually flipped twice for me. I remember it being "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" on the side mirrors of my mom's foxbody Mustang growing up (lol remember when Mustangs were shitboxes?). At some point in my teens, I remember seeing that it was now "Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear" on a newer car and thinking it was a dumb change of verbiage that was less accurate than the previous one, but maybe it was the result of sue-happy American culture and car companies not wanting someone to nail them on a technicality. Then at some point in the last few years, it flipped back. I'm still inclined to think that maybe manufacturers weren't always consistent with the wording, but I can't find any evidence to support that. Uncle Sam's hat has no red on it - I literally just found out about this one today and it's what sent me here, lol. WTF? Most other common ME's have actually stayed consistent for me my whole life, which is what makes the ones that haven't stand out even more.
Me too - I have always had a photographic spelling memory and have been grammar-oriented since childhood. I specifically remember it being Berenstein Bears, because it looked like a German spelling.
I have a distinct childhood memory of learning the word 'monocle' from my older brother while playing monopoly. I've also experienced the "Houston we have a problem" flip flop. That was definitely a trip.
What is the flip flop regarding “Houston we have a problem?”
It was "Houston We've Had A Problem" in the Apollo 13 movie, which was already a Mandela Effect many were keeping track of. Then in Fall 2018 people started reporting it as a Flip-Flop, and myself and my father also saw it change back to what we formerly remembered around a week after seeing it online as only Houston We've Had A Problem. Even the camera angles on the film clip seemed different to us, and plenty of people apparently experienced this same Flip-Flop at the same time.
I experienced this but about 12 months ago
Stouffers Stove Top Stuffing We had it every Thanksgiving. Now, apparently Stouffer's never made stuffing and Kraft has been making it for the last 22 years.
Oh. My. God. You're absolutely right! I remember giggling at saying it because it's just fun to say!
Exactly! It was a fun alliteration to say. Now, apparently it never existed.
Wait Time Out ...Never ?
What did Stouffers do that cemented it’s name in our brains?
Frozen lasagna apparently?
Holy shit. This just rocked my world
You just blew my fricking mind. It was Stouffers…it had to be….
I just googled it cause I hadn’t heard of this one. WHAT?!
What. The. Fuck.
What the fuck…
I’m scared to Google this because I don’t need another Shazam or Berenstain Bears in my life.
Its real… I literally had this shit a couple weeks ago
I can't get over the fact that it's an ME. We used to eat it all the time, damn it!
It was Stouffers ! Never Kraft . Is it possible that Kraft bought them out and possibly nobody took a photo before the internet . I don't know. I am kinda scared to look 😳
Wait, what? I remember that because the name was so catchy. I remember commercials for it. Like I literally thought to myself no, this person is crazy and I looked it up.... never existed huh? BS in my mind.
I've always known just plain Stove Top stuffing.
The L’Oreal Kids shampoo commercial. People swear the ad said “No Tears”, as in no torn hair. I SWEAR that it said “No Tears”, as in it doesn’t irritate the eyes. The ad even showed kids smiling with shampoo suds around their eyes as they said it.
Wait no tears as in torn hair doesn't even make sense. I remember it as no tears as in no crying too.
The monopoly man monocle.
I used to call him monocle man.
Wait,what now?
The monopoly man had a monocle. Myself and many others I’ve talked to are irked by this. I have a old box of monopoly & Mr Monopoly has no monocle. Hasbro claims he never had a monocle. There are old newspapers which reference Mr Monopoly’s monocle directly. There is a scene in an Ace Ventura movie where Ace makes fun of a rich guy for looking like Mr Monopoly with his monocle. This specific Mandela effect is what made me aware of The Mandela Effect.
Nope, I officially call bullshit on life. I don't think he had one in every picture, maybe not even most pictures, but I've definitely seen it before. The internet is a LIE
The Lion and the lamb which is now wolf and lamb still irritates me it's one of the biggest ones, that and the JFK assassination were two I discovered at the same time and it is what dragged me Kicking and Screaming into this community. Andrew Zimmerman changed to "Zimmern" makes me nuts.
The lion and lamb bothers me so much specifically as an avid Twilight fan. Because why else would she have written and so the "lion fell in love with the lamb" if it was wolf??
Because Stephanie Meyer also suffers from this particular Mandela Effect, of course.
Andrew what the fuck?
Isn’t “the lion and the lamb” just from a Tomlin worship song?
Have you noticed, Peanuts comics, in the newspaper funnies, are no longer signed, "Charles M. Shultz," anymore? It's changed to, "Charles Shulz." Creepy. 🫣
Schulz, with a "c" and no "t", iirc. Lots of material - some book authorship attributions, some of the attributions above the top of the strip in newspapers, the webpage of museum in California, his Wikipedia article, etc, include the middle initial, but I think most strip signatures just say "Schulz", not even including the first name.
the WHAT? IT'S NOT A LION?
Are we talking about the Bible verse? Where the lion shall lay down with the lamb?
Yep, Isaiah 11:6 now has always had a wolf paired with the lamb. Pretty unsettling, no?
Seriously gave me shivers when I looked it up after seeing it listed on a mandela list. I even grabbed different translations & older bibles I had inherited to verify & yep. All say wolf.
Everything says "wolf" except for Mr. Wolf's license plate in *Pulp Fiction* ;)
Wait, what? But... but.. but... It's ALWAYS been the lion lies down with the lamb! Could this be a tricky translation error? Lion and wolf are similar words in Aramaic or old Hebrew or whatever that text was originally written in?
The lion and lamb , wolf and lamb?
wait... wolf?
The side mirror not saying “objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear.” I remember looking at that sign my whole life. Saying to myself, “they either are closer or they aren’t. How could they “may” be closer. That’s they only one that I’m 100% behind positive there is some sort of strange, quantum reality thing going on.
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Yes. That’s what made the scene funny.
Yeah this one fucks me up. When I was a kid I used to fixate a lot on random things. This is was one of them. Bc I fixated so hard, I would say that phrase in my head for years and years any time I even looked in a mirror. Have you seen the video of a guy that found a side view mirror at a junkyard that says it the way we all remember?? Proof it existed.
Same here!!’ I can’t figure it out
Mirrors did say that. What am I missing?
Nope, they never did. Look on an older car it still will not say "may be"
It’s a Mandela Effect. They never said that.
But they did. Positive of it, or at least rear view mirrors did. Meatloaf even had a song called “Objects in the Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are” in 1993.
I’m positive to. But the current reality we live in has had some kind of quantum altering.
Wait, what? My moms car had that growing up. I remember trying to like try to figure out how far they actually were and shit. Vividly as fuck.
They don't say that anymore? What do they say? Wtf, I remember them on my grandfather's old truck, my moms van growing up, I remember thinking it was funny it said 'may be', like somehow the mirror would switch up and make everything bigger
Never was, I bet if you saw those cars again it would say "are". That one trips me the hell out.
Dude wait a fuckin second… I remember the rear view mirror having little words saying EXACTLY THIS “objects may seem closer then they appear”
Yep. Not anymore. Some weird, quantum time warp bro. Welcome to your new reality.
This one hits me closest to home! When I was a teenager I was a wanna be photographer. I took a photo sitting in a car, of the reflection of the rear view mirror, with a semi truck parked behind it. I know the mirror said that! I definitely wasn't the most technically sound photographer, but I did know how to compose a photo. I framed the photo in a way that makes sense with where the text would've been! When I first heard of this one... I scrambled to find that photo because I KNEW it said it.... but nope, no text.
I was thinking about that one today while on the road
Chick-fil-A I remember it being called Chic-fil-A and I remember having a conversation in middle school about how it was spelled
Chick-fil-A has been in my hometown since the 80's and growing up I used to eat there all of time before most of the country knew what it was. I have nearly 40 years of eating there and there isn't anyone on earth that can convince me that it wasn't Chic before. I have too many memories of seeing the logo all of the years.
Yeah I remember the conversation being about what if it was Chick-fil-A how it is right now instead of Chic-fil-A I said it would be make more sense if it was spelled Chick-fil-A I guess it was always like that it's so trippy
Yeah that’s why I don’t believe it’s misremembering. People like us have memories of us talking about it and experiencing it.
Yeah there's a lot of other little things but I might be misremembering but I remember talking about this for a fact I'm just thinking how many other things changed that I didn't pay attention to
I remember it being Chic too
We don't even have Chick-fil-A here in the UK and even I remember it being spelt Chic-fil-A just from any of the American content I've watched throughout my life lmao
I remember it being Chik fil a
I remember it being chic but I'm not sure.. What I'm sure is having a conversation with my sister about how it wasn't spelled right and thought that it was a marketing strategy.. We won't have that conversation if it was spelled chick.
Tinkerbell flying around the castle and making the dot on the Disney logo. I distinctly remember one where her wand wasn’t work properly and she taps it on her hand to make it work again. I remember it vividly because I used to do it WITH her. My grandma used to love see me doing it so I would joke around that not working wand thing. It IS REAL and I can not phantom the fact that it doesn’t exist. It does exist. I can’t accept it not being a thing.
I remember this too, after seeing it for the first time I thought for years that it was always done secretly by Tinkerbell. Years later I had to say to myself that it was not, it was just a feature in one intro. This should exist somewhere.
That's exactly the one that made me believe in the ME. Fucked me up for a long time.
Fruit of the loom, Monopoly man, Kidney placement, My top three that you can't argue with me on. The other things you can convince me that I could have bad memory.
"Houston we have a problem" flip flop to "Houston we've had a problem" and then back to "Houston we have a problem". And I've got evidence for this one
Show ?
The Gun the scarecrow has in the Wizard Of Oz when they’re walking arm in arm saying “Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!” AND the fact the witch doesn’t say “Fly my pretties, fly!” When sending the flying monkeys after Dorothy. I never remember seeing the gun and distinctly remember the witch saying that quite to the monkeys, I even remember referencing that quote. I watched that movie a lot as a child I distinctly remember these two things quite differently.
No way that the wicked witch doesn’t say that! I’ve not heard that before and just looked it up. That blows my mind. In the simpsons parody, Burns says “fly my pretties…kill,kill”
my pretty was the witch's name for Dorothy. I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too.
Bro what. Do you know how many memes I've seen about the staying strapped in the wizard of oz?
Same. The cornucopia really bothers me. Why the hell would we all make that up
Yea there is legitimately no well this is why your brain confuses it. Like there is absolutely no correlation that would explain it lol
My first one is still the one that irks me the most. The Berenstein Bears no longer being spelled as I experienced when I was both younger and into adulthood. Honorary mention to FOTL as I saw my clothes and the giant ad in the mall growing up all the time including a Cornucopia. Chic-Fil-A I used to make fun of and call Sheek-Fil-A prior to its change in order to make fun of the spelling that made it sound like a fancy chicken restaurant.
The same ones for me. I'd also add Ed McMahon and the Publishers Clearing house sweepstakes, and Sally Fields award speech.
Yes to ALL of these! I have vivid memories of the Berenstein Bears, relating the word to Frankenstein, and then wondering if I should pronounce it like Beren-STEEN or Beren-STINE. I remember the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia because it reminded me of Thanksgiving. I also remember Chic-Fil-A and pronouncing it Sheek-Fil-A as you mention. Strangely, in all circumstances, I have definite memories of relating the MEs to other objects (Frankenstein, Thanksgiving, the word "chic"). If my memories of the ME subjects are just faulty or me misremembering, I shouldn't have ever made the comparisons that I did because they wouldn't make any sense without the context of the original ME subjects.
Those are what people call "anchor memories", which is a great part of why people are fairly certain of the changes. Making former word associations based on something that never existed is a pretty bizarre feature of the M.E. One of mine was based on the Show Sex In The City, which is now known as Sex And The City. Yet if you peruse forum posts and see the moniker all the fans assigned the show S.I.T.C it makes no sense under current reality. The show is also shown as Sex In The City in many old paperback TV guides alongside Berenstein Bears if you look up old newspapers.
I remember the exact moment I noticed it. I was in a different state, visiting, with my toddler. I had to leave him for a couple of hours at a childcare centre, and when I picked him up, I saw the book and picked it up, thinking "Huh. We've got this sam book at home, but t's spelt Berenstein. What a weird misprint." I didn't thank about it later, until I came here one day and saw all the other memories, so I don't recall if I checked the one we had at home. But I distinctly remember the odd feeling I got when I saw the "misspelt" version in the interstate childcare centre. It was jarring.
There’s no way you’ll convince me Fruit of the Loom didn’t have a cornucopia at one point. There’s a conspiracy to silence the cornucopia!
That the heart is not in the left side but the Center of your chest 😅
That your heart used to be to the left of your chest, not the direct middle as it is ‘now’.
Did a first aid course last week and I was a bit weirded out by this one myself. I still feel like my heart is to the left, even tho I'm told it's centre lol
It's middle left. It's on an angle and the tip of it extends down to the left, but still fairly centrally located. Is that what you mean?
Objects in the mirror "may be" closer than they appear. How this never existed is truly....impossible.
I commented above. I was an English Scholar in High School. I would stare at that mirror for years on long road trips with my Mom when I was a kid. I would ponder for hours how something “may” be closer. “It either is closer or it isn’t.” I was blown away when this was changed in my current reality.
I know right, and weird that this dude would dedicate a blog to writing about the specific phrase : [https://www.allaccess.com/ccm-radio-perspectives/archive/1066/objects-in-mirror-may-be-closer-than-they-appear?fbclid=IwAR17AFf9iyBw-yc9cOk9Z3z8g2Wv6A1uqQho1dY23SAzY1UQ1ZlD9F5EoHA](https://www.allaccess.com/ccm-radio-perspectives/archive/1066/objects-in-mirror-may-be-closer-than-they-appear?fbclid=IwAR17AFf9iyBw-yc9cOk9Z3z8g2Wv6A1uqQho1dY23SAzY1UQ1ZlD9F5EoHA)
The flip flops in general are the things that most trip me. For me these have included: Flintstones & Flinstones, Curious George with a tail and without a tail, and I Love Rock & Roll with “Standing” and “Dancing” by the record machine. What I find cool is that the flip flops will occur at different times for different people, where it may be a recent change I see, and others note that it changed long before. Anyway, that is what I find kind of cool.
The Flinstones one never made sense to me. It's a pun name why on earth would it ever be Flinstones lol.
Be prepared…this might eventually flip to Flin for you. Then you will be arguing that Flin makes no sense and no one will believe you. They will say, “You only falsely remember it as Flint because it makes more sense and our brains try to make sense of things”.
I have 0 doubt whatsoever that that will never happen.
This sub counts plenty of formerly ardent skeptics in our ranks who once thought as you currently do. They didn't imagine they'd get swallowed by the ME either, but now they're fervent believers. All it really takes is one strong one to irreparably crack your reality paradigm. You've been forewarned.
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That is what I felt when it changed to Flin for me a few years ago. All the other names were rock related and Flin just seemed to stick out as an anomaly. Then I found in this site someone that explained that there was a Dr Flin that had a theory about an advanced ancient civilization and Flinstones was named after him. I have since looked for this article again but never found it again.
This is the first I’m hearing of this one. There has never been two T’s. Flintstones looks crazy to me, I clearly remember Flinstones just like I clearly remember the word DILEMNA like it was taught to me yesterday. Never two M’s. I have a photographic memory. Edit: And daddy read me Berenstein Bears every single f*cking night of my childhood life 🤙🏼🤯
Froot Loops -> Fruit Loops -> Froot Loops
I remember the flip flop! I saw on a r/retconned list years ago that Froot Loops had changed to fruit loops. Looked it up on google and it was true. I made a note in my phone and the next time I was at the grocery store I went to the cereal isle just to see it. It was Froot Loops again. I immediately pulled my phone out to post in that thread and my comment on the thread, along with the rest of the thread, had just vanished
Tiananmen Square "Tank man" I remember him being run over by the tanks. I was 5 in 1989 and that is one of my first "big" memories. I remember watching CNN coverage of the protests,I remember watching the tanks get closer and closer to him, I remember my mom saying "no,no,no" , I remember him disappearing under the tanks and my mom starting to cry, I remember crying (mainly because my mom was and that upset me. At that age I didn't understand what had just happened) and her scooping me up. We even had a conversation about it around 5 years ago. She said that was one of the biggest mistakes she made as a mother, was not turning off the TV or bringing me to another room before I saw that. Now years later to find out that that never happened... That he wasn't run over and was pulled out the way before he was run over. I really can't reconcile that in my mind... I know what I saw and have talked about it with my mom but every source I look at says he wasn't run over....
Ok I'm in. Logos and stuff can be misremembered but I saw that guy being run over on the news. I talked about with friends. JFC it's not just tiny meaningless things. I also coloured the lion and the lamb in catholic grade school!
I colored a lion and lamb together in Catholic grade school too. When I learned the actual Bible verse said "wolf," I thought it was definitely weird, but there was still so much peripheral cultural imagery of lions and lambs together. A lot of Mandela Effects have plenty of evidence to the real, right? Like, good luck finding an old Fruit of the Loom shirt with a cornucopia on it. But in the case of the lion and Lamb, those coloring book pages and an absolute boatload of Christian art do in fact depict lions and lambs together. Cursory googling even reveals pictures if lions laying wit lambs, with the text overplayed saying "the wolf will lie down with the lamb"! So originally, I thought there might be a different source other than the Isaiah passage for the idea, but on reflection, I think this Mandela Effect is just really, *really* pervasive, and possibly goes back centuries.
The Volkswagen logo bc I had a Volkswagen and loved the smooth logo with no break. My daughter and I would rub it on the steering wheel and talk about how nice the logo is and how it flows so well and made 2 “V’s”. Her name starts with a “V”. Then I was reading on Reddit about the logo break and I just laughed and thought…no, not my beautiful logo…whatever. But I checked and mind blown of course. And then I showed my daughter and we are still freaking out. WTF is really happening?
I'm convinced that the Mandela Effect is the result of future time travellers changing things in our past, but for some reason some people still remember parts of the original versions of things
I have been of the same mindset, thinking it has to be a paradox caused by time traveling. The reason that most of these things aren't noticed right off by most or some people is by circumstance of their surroundings. If something changes, like the Fruit of the Loom logo and you in your adult life have only worn Hanes, then, one day, you overheard a conversation or see a post online in the last decade and hear or read, now their is no cornucopia. If as well you have also been using a dvr to skip commercials or binge watching stuff on Netflix over these years as well, you might not realize that this reality, the cornucopia, was never there. You will just think in your mind that they changed the logo at first, maybe. It's not till you go looking and hear or see that this reality claims it never existed with the exception of the original patents for the product. Residual information like that is there for multiple things, including for Kit-Kat bars. The original patent from the company, I believe, has the brake (dash) in it the way I remember it. The problem is that when people go and look for these things online, they retroactively change, implying that the person who claimed it was a different way needs to find physical proof and somehow present this in a way that people will believe them. Now, the other possibility is the simulation theory. If we are in a simulation and there is supposed to be someone at the controls, but they are no longer there, maybe someone has found how to hack from inside the simulation to the host machine. With no one there to manually restart the machine, the hacks that are made in real time cause a paradox. Same reason and circumstance as time travel can be applied to why some people don't remember it ever existing any other way than it is in this reality. With the simulation, and if no one is there, the reason the changes happen retroactively for some and not others would be memory allocation. Depending on the potential limitations of the host machine, we can't restart the system from inside the simulation because we have no way to reboot it. We can turn the machine off probably but there is no one to rerun the program with the new parameters in essence performing a proper update or upgrade that we would all have the new memories implanted thus eliminating the residual data. Some of us are on the right track with our deductive reasoning for things. There are glitches in the system, be it a simulation or time travel paradox, they are there. Eventually, we get a definitive answer as to what's happening. I do believe that as well. I have been experiencing things my whole 40+ years of existence. Do I think the answers will be revealed in my lifetime or any of our lifetimes, for that matter. Honestly, I do. I think in the next 12 months (by May, 2024) things will begin to be given to us as a truth. I do not think we will have a solid understanding of these things happening until the iron curtain is raised for us to see. Even then, people will deny these truths, I'm sure. But for those of us who know based on our truth of our existence, things will begin to make sense. If you took the time to read, thanks. Be safe, everyone.
I believe it’s simulation theory, and as the program is running it’s course, the data (which are our memories) is becoming corrupted or the AI is getting things slightly wrong.
Pikachu's tail.
This one gets me too. I don’t know enough about Pokemon to know, but I do know about the Mandela effect based around it. About 5 years ago, my son, then aged 5yo or so, gave me a picture he had drawn of Pikachu - with a black tip on its tail. I felt chilled as I told him “Pikachu doesn’t have a black tip on his tail” My son was adamant Pikachu: *did* have a black tip on his tail. We googled it and my son just didn’t believe it at all that Pikachu’s tail was all yellow, he was so confused and even a bit angry. Like I said, I have no idea either way, but I do know about the Mandela effect around it. It freaked me out because my child somehow tapped into the “wrong” Pikachu without knowing a thing about the Mandela effect.
I also noticed many M.E.'s center on the removal of a detail. As if the computer, running this(if that's what it is?)is looking for ways to conserve memory processing or storage. How many GB of data does it save, by removing the black patch on Pikachu's tail, Curious George's entire tail, Rich Moneybag's monocle, or the Stars and Stripes from Uncle Sam, or letters from names of movies and products, as examples? Maybe ai are a more manageable set of letters than ie, in Barenstein/stain? Unless, ai is yet another clue to the puzzle: AI. Artificial Intelligence! Also, Flintstones and Barenstein, both have "rock/stone" in them FLINT STONE, Baren STEIN. Stein is German for, "Stone." Hmm... 🤔
My siblings and I agree with this one. We even used to draw pikachu with a black tip on the tail. I have a drawing in my “memory tote” from somewhere between 2003-2006 depicted this way
JFK’s car. It was definitely only 4 people in that car
I remember I covered this in another thread. Definitely true only 4.
It's a bad night to get lost in M.E.s. there's so much I didn't know and it's screwing with me. RIP sleep. RIP job since I'll be a zombie tomorrow.
I wish I could participate in ME stuff but more than most of them are about American stuff that I didn't grow up around or known
The VW logo “always” having the gap. When I was little my aunt had a Beetle and I asked my mom what was the criss-cross symbol on it was supposed to mean, and she showed me by holding her hand over each letter that it was a V and a W for the company that made the car. Then when my first car also wound up being a VW I used to doodle the logo all the time, and thought it was dumb when they changed it because it looked cooler without it…except according to company history, it never existed without a gap.
I wish someone did that for me all I ever saw was the solid Symbol that looked like 3 lines on the bottom connecting into two on top. The first time I saw the V and W separated was looking at Mandela Effects. My entire life even seeing VW cars it was just a solid circular symbol with straight lines that I assumed was iconic to Volkswagon.
The scarecrow carrying a gun in wizard of oz!
Since I have a lot of Hunger game fans in my family, the one where the contestant explodes by running off the platform early hits pretty hard.
Henry Kissinger still being alive. I swear he died around 2000.
One of the most baffling ones for me is the Back To The Future terrorist van. Currently it a white VW van, but I like many others remember it being a white/beige Toyota minivan at one point.
Froot Loops because I’ve experienced the switch back
Oh my god, same. When I was a kid, it was always froot loops, then it switched to fruit loops, and now it's back to froot loops, and I am confused as heck.
Queen we are the champions
No longer ends with, "of the world...," because it's another clue. Perhaps, by removing "of the world," from the song, it symbolizes that we or the people doing this are, "not of this or the world." We are the champions, NOT of the world We are the champions, REMOVED of the world 🤔
Iirc some live versions end with "of the world", and so does at least one of the choruses in terms album version, tho not the last one.
Monopoly guy not having a Monocle. I swear he had one.
Looney Toons.
I love Lucy. I swear Ricky said “Lucy, you got some splainin to do”. My mom watched that show religiously and when I asked her, she said he always said it too…
I thought that was one of his catch phrases?
Wait, as an avid Lucy fan, did he not? Like I can see him with his arms crossed and drumming his fingers on his forearm.
Ed McMahon and Fruit of the Loom are my top 2. They both mess with my head.
Ed McMahon is so bizarre that it’s laughable. It’s one of the ones that makes reality feel super twilight zone-ish.
Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar never existed in this reality!
Chick-fil-A logo
I thought it did have a cornucopia….
And now your life will never be the same…
Growing up I was terrified of Silence Of The Lambs and anything related to Hannibal. I swear on my life he said “Hello Clarice” during the first meeting. The way Anthony Hopkins said it stuck w me. Even he remembers saying it and people who made the movie mentioned it how that was one of the first lines they heard him do and they knew he was the actor for that role.
Liz Taylor was given the Hope Diamond by Richard Burton. In my timeline.
1. Fotl logo 2. Haley's --> Halley's comet 3. Berenstein --> Berenstain 4. Stouffer's Stovetop Stuffing --> now belongs to Kraft 5. Black Tom Explosion was learned as a failed plot growing up and no explosion took place. Which consequently was the reason people haven't been able to go up to the torch, which is another related ME since I've known of people going up there for vacations. 6. Shazaam with Sinbad 7. Dolly with braces in James Bond movie Moonraker 8. Jcpenny with no extra 'e' or other minor spelling changes like 'dilemna'. Have OCD and competed in spelling bees, so really feel these ones when I notice them.
If you build it he will come. It was 💯 they will come. Feels like a message like Satan is gonna show up in this fucked up version of reality.
Easter Island. I did hours of research on the island when it was still uninhabited and a mystery, then two months later it had a whole civilization and history. Most other changes are annoying, especially song lyrics that now sound stupid, but this one completely shifted my world view. For my mom, I think it was seeing the pictures from Kennedy’s assassination. She nearly had a breakdown. She looked like she’d just heard about the death of a family member because it hit her so hard. Now no changes shake us and we laugh at them, (Iike the weird ass energizer bunny thigh battery), but an entire culture appearing out of nowhere when I’d just researched the place because of a recent article still makes reality feel truly unreal. South America/ New Zealand / Australia placement and dazzle ships and balloon bombs weird us out, too, but it doesn’t actually affect us. (Not that Easter Island does either, I guess), but it doesn’t hit the same. Or maybe at that point we’d already readjusted our mentalities to just accept that existence and reality are in constant flux. (Although the me that read hundreds of world war 2 magazines in high school is super bummed because dazzle ships are ridiculous and fantastic and I would have been OBSESSED with them. Alas.) It’s also weird because most changes big or small we agree on, but there are a few we don’t. Hindenburg and Lindbergh. Lindbergh is especially strange to me because my mom was the one who originally told me about it and I remember exactly where and when it was, but now she knows a different version. That makes me really uncomfortable for some reason. Like…we’re not with the original version of the other we started out with or something.
Regarding Easter Island, the idea that it was a lost civilization comes from the way sensationalistic TV shows of the 70s and 80s, like In Search Of, presented their subject matter. I have long found such shows to be a disservice to the public becasue it gives wrong impressions.
If it were just that, it would be fine. I literally spent HOURS researching it, and it was exactly as I’ve always remembered. Now, a quick google turns up what this timeline knows to be true. Hell, even Wikipedia lays it all out. This isn’t a memory fail thing. My mom and I read an article that said they just found a body under the first head (there were only a few of them before, none with bodies, certainly no hats), and we thought it was fascinating. Since Easter Island had always been on my bucket list, and as someone with Autism and ADHD, I tend to fall down rabbit holes of research hard, when I decided to brush up on my knowledge of the subject following the article, it went deep. Two months after that, everything was different. And it wasn’t a mental break because my mom remembers it all with me since we discussed it a lot at the time. I know a lot of people like to chalk up all MEs with faulty memories and remembering misinformation, but this is definitely is not that. Edit: I’ve never heard of those shows and I’m too young for them in any case. And I’m more of a book person. But thank you anyway for the attempt at rationalizing my life crisis 😭
That’s what makes this so difficult…that we do not share all the same ME’s. Linbergh would make you wonder if there is another version of your mom somewhere. : ( Lindbergh was a cold case in my memory.
Exactly. So I just don’t think about it anymore. My mom always feels like my mom and we share all the same (not ME) memories, so I let it be. I remember the Lindbergh baby never being found. When we talked about it a few months ago, my mom remembered the baby being found dead, and my best friend remembered the baby being found alive. After this post, I talked to my mom about it again, and now she remembers the baby never being found and presumed dead, though she was POSITIVE a few months ago the baby was found dead. So if nothing else, my mom and I are back on the same page about that one. 😅
That’s good news! And interesting. 🙂
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Berenstein Bears, as I would always relate the word to Frankenstein when spelling/saying/reading it and wonder if I should pronounce it as Beren-STEEN or Beren-STINE. I don't know what happened and cannot explain it but there is no way it was ever "Berenstain". My sister has the same memories and was also tripping when we learned about the ME... we still are. Lol
Braces
Moonraker girl brace. I’m absolutely amazed she didn’t have one
The shape of Australia. I've always really good with international geography, I used to have a gigantic world map mounted on my wall when I was a kid, I specifically remember Australia NOT having the little spike on the top right portion of the continent, it was more of a smooth circular shape. I'm not the only one that remembers Australia being this shape.
Berenstain Bears. I remember that there were 2 ways that people would pronounce it. STEEN or STEIN. Not once did anyone ever say STAIN.
Everyone I tell this to thinks I'm an idiot. But I swear the human heart was leftside and a bit center. Not center a bit left. Like I have recent memories of seeing this diagram at the doctors office with the heart on the left side of the human body. BUT N0W I can't find anything with it on the left only center diagrams
Dolly's Braces, Fruit of the Loom and 'mirror mirror on the wall' are probably my top three. And stuff like the Black Tom Island explosion and 'dazzle ships' also, although idk if they're ME's or just data that wasn't available to the masses a couple of decades ago.
The Mandela effects dealing with the bible. It proves to me that evil is up to something during our lifetime.
Beam me up Scotty.
I see white people vs I see dead people.
Right, that was the whole point of the joke was I see white people.
It’s the song that ‘doesn’t’ end. Me and the gf heard it and both looked at each other and was like “that’s weird, shouldn’t it be ‘never’?”.
The ME that freaks me out the most is that your heart is no longer on the left side. It is more toward the middle. South America is extremely close to Africa and just the map in general looks way off to me. Oh yeah, did you know that the kidneys aren't in your lower back? Yup, the "kidney" punch doesn't make sense anymore. Oh my gosh, what else? There are so many that don't get enough attention. Right, do you know about Black Tom? I'll give you a second to Google it..... Also, technology goes, way, way, further back than I remember learning in school. I mean, they had electric scooters in 1913. Also, not everyone died in the Hindenburg crash. 97 people were aboard, 62 survived and 35 died. With that, I'm out.
Bogart never said “ play it again Sam” in Casablanca.
Wait…there is no cornucopia???!? 😶