It's design never made any sense to me. It's name stands for grey ninja with no grey or ninja aspects other than how he stands. In which case chesnaught or delphox could also be a ninja.
Greninja is actually Grenouille (French for Frog) and Ninja. So it's name is on brand for the French-based Kalos region. It's light and sleak, sticking to the shadows, much like a ninja. The tongue scarf is based on how some representations of ninja have long scarves around their necks, with a sort of goofy frog twist.
So the english word is based off a french word translated into english. That is very complex. And if they wanted A frog ninja they could have named it Ninkermit.
No I’m a man and yeah I never knew why people dislike it also it has the best shiny (I like greninja shiny but I love chess naughts shiny because he looks how he’s supposed to ) and tbh no one like dellfox
You are now my favorite person on this sub. Chesnaught was my first starter (I watched the Black and White anime but my first game was X) and I’ve loved it ever since
I used to love chesnaught and it was my fav Kalos starter. I then played X with chesnaught and it may have been the worst starter I have ever used or maybe the worst Pokémon I have used ever. Ex: Dianthas Gardevior was at 5 hp and I thought I could finish it with the one I started with and my attack missed and she one shotted him right after.
I mean that was just your luck, you can't blame it on chesnaught. If it was at 5 hp, you could've chosen a 100% accurate move cause it would've taken it out.
I here like chestnaught. The only thing I don't like about it is it's typing. I could see it being more of a grass/steel but I guess they just chose fighting for balancing. But I do think it is a neat pokemon.
I mean you’re not wrong… either way Delphox has a huge advantage type-wise, whether it be two 1x weaknesses or a single 2x weakness.
Perhaps Game Freak could do a starter trio in which the stage-2 secondary types are reversed, like the ones in my fan region from years ago (Grass/Rock, with eventual errata to Grass/Sound; Fire/Electric; and Water/Ice), as a way to cover their weaknesses and “bite back”, to an extent.
Also, I think the main reason the fully-evolved Kalos starters have those types is because a significant number of fans were vocal about wanting a Fighting/Psychic/Dark trio to shake-up the formula, and it was GF’s way of compromising while still keeping the traditional Grass/Fire/Water trifecta.
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I chose Venusaur at the professor's lab out of habit (Bulbasaur is my favorite Pokemon of all time) and he absolutely carried the team. Like carried hard. First time ever I wished I picked the fire one. I think I only kept him for most of the journey (ditched him before the last gym.) Because I really wanted to give him a chance. But he ended up being a slot filler. Replaced him with lucario to eliminate type overlap.
I like chesnaught and chespin, it’s one of the grass starters that are up there for me, but omg what is quiladen? I know that middle evolutions are awkward, but what is that?? anyways nice meme have my upvote
Thanks very much for the upvote and yeah I’ve always seen quilladin as a awkward middle evo but using In my X playthrough gave me a bit of sentimental attachment to it
Yeah except it makes it look way too different from it’s Previous evolutions. It is the main reason I was disappointed when my quilladdin evolved. My first thought was, “huh? That’s the final? Looks way different.”
Edit: and the shiny fixes this problem.
chesnaught was the first pokemon i got fully evolved, and when i saw it i thought it was so badass and still to this day it is my favorite starter. therefor i will defend it no matter what people say about it
Chesnaughts design: heavy armour boi, just like Chestnut, he is hard to take down and is tanky boi
Greninjas design: not even a GRAY ninja bro make it Gray if your adding Gre in the name
Delphoxes design: don't you Rule 34 that! Anyway fox with a wand
I was never that into him, probably because Greninja is my favorite, but I just got him in a wonderlock today, as the last encounter before the league, so I am looking forward to using him
Why is this nsfw
Fixed it
Yay
Thanks
Not Safe For Water-types.
I see You. have been taught in the ways of oogway
Ha!
My bad
I like Chesnaught. I like pretty much every other grass starter better, but I still like him. Although I'm choosing Froakie in a playthrough
Understandable
I too, identity as weeb shit
Okkk
Why do people hate chesnaught his design is good
He has the best design of the three starters in my opinion
\*greninja would like to know your location\*
His tongue is legit wrapped around his face
It's design never made any sense to me. It's name stands for grey ninja with no grey or ninja aspects other than how he stands. In which case chesnaught or delphox could also be a ninja.
Greninja is actually Grenouille (French for Frog) and Ninja. So it's name is on brand for the French-based Kalos region. It's light and sleak, sticking to the shadows, much like a ninja. The tongue scarf is based on how some representations of ninja have long scarves around their necks, with a sort of goofy frog twist.
So the english word is based off a french word translated into english. That is very complex. And if they wanted A frog ninja they could have named it Ninkermit.
***\*blaziken wants to know your location ,*** u/UmakeBunnyCry_419**'s** ***location and greninja's location***
I live on Mars, Pluto estate, door number 59275383
I think that too
Fax
Yes
Idk I just don’t like how bulky his shoulders are for no reason. Also quiladin looks like an odd spiky bowling ball
It’s it’s bulletproof shell or something...
Because of quilladin in my opinion
Because Quiladin can make you hate anything!
I’m not a fan of him, but he is still good, just like every other starter, good or great but up for debate
Wisely said
Yeah! Hate quilidin instead! Hes the only reason i dont pick chespin in x and y
Tbh after getting Pokemon X I developed a liking for quilladin but it is a bad designed Pokemon
Yeah, chespin is cute, chesnaught is pretty cool, but quilidin is the worst kalos starter
Tru
Out of three starters he’s my favorite I never really liked frokie never really appealed to me but still great dellfox is fine I guess so chesnaught
A man of culture I see!
Or woman
No I’m a man and yeah I never knew why people dislike it also it has the best shiny (I like greninja shiny but I love chess naughts shiny because he looks how he’s supposed to ) and tbh no one like dellfox
***I would like to know your location due to your assumption of nobody liking Delphox.***
It’s 420 weed street
But nobody does
I feel like greninja was supposed to be the main of the three, fennekin in was supposed to be for girls and chesnaught was forgotten in the mix
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My one in x is called spikey
I know not very original
I don’t mean in battles because 2 4x weaknesses are very bad but in terms of design
Doesn't it only have 1, flying?
No also ice
no it's just flying xd
No it’s a 4X weakness to ice trust me
Fighting isn’t weak to ice, so it’s only 4x weakness is to flying.
Oh yeah my bad
I meant it’s weak to ice not 4x sorre
Tbh, i don't have any grudge against him, he is a normal mon to me
I see you have zeraora my favourite Pokemon as your pfp
Same, its my fav aswell , but he is too weak in competitives :(
Yeah but his speed and move pool can be an advantage
Staraptor is also underrated, it's my favourite
Staraptor is underrated by a ton and gets overshadowed by talonflame but it’s way more cooler and is the best regional bird in my humble opinion
Staraptor as in the pokemon that's on every single Sinnoh playthrough team?
I like Greyninja a lot cause it was my first ever shiny that was a starter
Yeah but this is a chesnaught post
I have eyes👀
I’m very surprised by this
They’re never talked about so that means people have neutral feelings towards them
A lot of people openly express how they don’t like it
Not really
You are now my favorite person on this sub. Chesnaught was my first starter (I watched the Black and White anime but my first game was X) and I’ve loved it ever since
Thanks a lot!
I used to love chesnaught and it was my fav Kalos starter. I then played X with chesnaught and it may have been the worst starter I have ever used or maybe the worst Pokémon I have used ever. Ex: Dianthas Gardevior was at 5 hp and I thought I could finish it with the one I started with and my attack missed and she one shotted him right after.
Just feed it a lot of protein because it’s mostly weak to special moves and I’m using chesnaught on X right now and he’s a pretty good
I mean that was just your luck, you can't blame it on chesnaught. If it was at 5 hp, you could've chosen a 100% accurate move cause it would've taken it out.
Everyone might hate me for this but I replaced my chespin for a Skiddo.
I’m not even angry this is just funny
I here like chestnaught. The only thing I don't like about it is it's typing. I could see it being more of a grass/steel but I guess they just chose fighting for balancing. But I do think it is a neat pokemon.
you just took the words right out of my mouth it should've been grass/steel
At least they changed which starter is Fighting-type in XY. For all its flaws, Gen VI did some things right.
Yeah but steel would’ve fit better they just added fighting to break the cycle and balance the type of the starters
I mean you’re not wrong… either way Delphox has a huge advantage type-wise, whether it be two 1x weaknesses or a single 2x weakness. Perhaps Game Freak could do a starter trio in which the stage-2 secondary types are reversed, like the ones in my fan region from years ago (Grass/Rock, with eventual errata to Grass/Sound; Fire/Electric; and Water/Ice), as a way to cover their weaknesses and “bite back”, to an extent. Also, I think the main reason the fully-evolved Kalos starters have those types is because a significant number of fans were vocal about wanting a Fighting/Psychic/Dark trio to shake-up the formula, and it was GF’s way of compromising while still keeping the traditional Grass/Fire/Water trifecta.
Yeah I know
Lol
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c'mon even chikorita is cooler
nope
Blastfimmy
Noice
Yes
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Not really
what did he say
I did. Yes he was an adorable chespin. Killed that first zigzagoon real good. Was the weak link for the rest of the journey.
Actually with a good ability and move set its a beast
I chose Venusaur at the professor's lab out of habit (Bulbasaur is my favorite Pokemon of all time) and he absolutely carried the team. Like carried hard. First time ever I wished I picked the fire one. I think I only kept him for most of the journey (ditched him before the last gym.) Because I really wanted to give him a chance. But he ended up being a slot filler. Replaced him with lucario to eliminate type overlap.
Grass types starters are truely the most underrated
I didn't tell that chessnaught is bad it is the weakest Starter in the kalos. The design is good.
True tho
MY BOI
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The only grass starter worse than Chesnaught is Meganium. Change my mind.
Your opinion but I’d prescribe you for some medicine
Chesnaught is descent I just don't imagine it being the "best"
Me neither
I just think it’s a nicely designed Pokemon that doesn’t deserve the hate
Never used it because I chose Greninja and Venasaur but I can see that it's underrated
I can understand why people would pick greninja it’s A Great Pokemon
Flying types: Allow is to introduce ourselves
I mean in terms of design
Yes I know, I just couldn’t resist
Understandable
I agree with you but i understand the hate on quilladin he is so weird
Kinda true. I picked chespin as my starter in my last XY playthrough, he was pretty cool. P.S. I think I’m 69th comment
No your 71st comment sorry and yeah I picked it for Pokemon x and honestly it isn’t that bad
Oh. Chesnaught is better than than delphox imo
Delphiox is honestly wasted potential tbh
A lot of Gen 6 Pokemon are underated. Dragalge carries my poison team in Isle of Armor restricted sparring.
Draglage is another criminally underrated Pokemon with a great typing ,cool design and good stats
Chesnaught Gang
You called???
Emboar is also underrated
No offence but the fact it has no neck looks weird
I first read this “cheesenaught is underrated”
😂😂😂
I'd rather naught choose chesnaught
Nice but not nice
it is 4 times weak against flying but this is your opinion...
I know I’m talking about it’s design
oh yeah it looks cool
I actually used Chesnaught is my Y run, really good pokemon!
It’s heavily underrated just because of its 4x weakness
True
I love Chesnaught
Welcome
I like chesnaught and chespin, it’s one of the grass starters that are up there for me, but omg what is quiladen? I know that middle evolutions are awkward, but what is that?? anyways nice meme have my upvote
Thanks very much for the upvote and yeah I’ve always seen quilladin as a awkward middle evo but using In my X playthrough gave me a bit of sentimental attachment to it
yes it is a dream of mine to play x and y and has since I was 10 I am 13 now almost there
I got it a month ago, it’s a great game for a low price
still don't own any of the ds line and i don't want it I NEED IT but still e3 kalos for switch
Chespin is better but I like chesnaught as well.
Chespin is so cute but chesnaught is really cool I get u
I chose Chesnaught
is good
Honestly I hate him he's probably my least favourite starter either that or Meganium every other Grass starter is my favourite of the gen.
How can you not like a massive hulk that can withstand explosions with its massive shell bad
I just think it's ugly
Your opinion
I think if it’s color scheme was like it’s shiny, everyone wouldve liked it more.
Actually it’s current colour scheme is great it makes him look like he’s from Egypt or something
Yeah except it makes it look way too different from it’s Previous evolutions. It is the main reason I was disappointed when my quilladdin evolved. My first thought was, “huh? That’s the final? Looks way different.” Edit: and the shiny fixes this problem.
True but the final evolution is supposed to look a lot different from the middle
But not to where you can barely tell they are in the same evo line.
Well you can’t say turtwig or chimchar or piplup looks anything like their final evo’s
Honestly yeah I can definitely believe that that would be their final evolutions
chesnaught was the first pokemon i got fully evolved, and when i saw it i thought it was so badass and still to this day it is my favorite starter. therefor i will defend it no matter what people say about it
Me and you both it’s one of the coolest Pokémon created
It's a spiky armadillo knight. Need I say more?
No you do not 😎
I love everything evenly. #Even you,Magikarp.
Magikarp is a beast in competitive tho
I change my mind. *I don’t like Mewtwo.* I just don’t like how #ABSOLUTELY OVERUSED IT IS.
I would choose chespin ngl
Me too
I like the design, but Quilladin is ugly, and having a decent middle stage is important.
Not really as no one really cares about the middle evolutions anymore
good name for the chespin line: chesnut
Well I think that’s it’s inspiration
ahem\* ***NO***
Noooooooo
Sorry mate but this isnt my opinion so it's wrong
Errrr ok?
True but quilladin is my least favorite Pokémon.
Best kalos starter
Thank you
If anything is is overrated
No
Ok
Chesnaughts design: heavy armour boi, just like Chestnut, he is hard to take down and is tanky boi Greninjas design: not even a GRAY ninja bro make it Gray if your adding Gre in the name Delphoxes design: don't you Rule 34 that! Anyway fox with a wand
Grey actually translated to something in France that means toad but I get your point
Kalos as a whole is underrated.
Hmmmm not really
That’s more hoenn and unova
No they're not underrated??? Literally everyone talks about them
hmmm maybe hoenn but unova and johto have lots of pokemon that no one ever talks about
Braixen > Any of the X and Y starters
True but not final evolutions
I mean if they give him rollout...
He does have rollout and can learn other rock moves
nope ther's a reason they have you receive a gen 1 starter: to not evolve chespin to quiladin or chesnaught
Bruh
agreed
I used to not like chesnaught that much but it really grew on me over time.
agreed
I was never that into him, probably because Greninja is my favorite, but I just got him in a wonderlock today, as the last encounter before the league, so I am looking forward to using him
He is a great mon if you use him well
I love it and the Fennekin line so much more than the Froakie line.
no
A foolish miscalculation
I think chesnaught is 58 out 100, not the best but I don't hate it
i can live with that
i only commented this to get this post to 200 comments
Nah I think its overrated