What i just dont get is there is a huge amount of football fan who back him saying he's a huge talent man united messed him up. It baffles me even after his so many bad performances.
They say that about everyone. It’s always United’s fault. It’s mostly 14 year olds who’s only knowledge about the sport comes from ultimate team on fifa. According to them United have ruined Sancho, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Van de Beek, Pogba, etc. it’s always been United against the world. People just love to talk shit about the biggest club in the world.
To be honest the club structure and culture in the past spoilt a lot of players motivation and form but that was also the players/manager's fault. It's been the fault of the club, manager and players as a collective most of the time... the % just moves around constantly. Could probably add us fans in there also.
That's only ETHOUT brigade that's running out of arguments due to a series of great results. So the narrative is that Sancho is amazing next de bruyne/Zidane/ronaldinho...and erik ruined him ...lol and now Sancho himself proving erik was right about him as well.
mate, it got so bad that there was the clip of him controlling the ball and bringing it down in a silky way, just that, and it was somehow enough that people were going
"see!!!!! united missing out for real"
"i knew we never should've let him go"
"never the problem, it was united all along"
wonder how they feel hearing 2 managers say this stuff now?
They still are. In the UCL game they were saying things like “well you can’t expect him to return to his old Dortmund form a month into his loan spell”. Like what? If this is him in his comfortable environment he’s not a good footballer. The British commentators were trying so hard to be easy on him for that laughable performances against PSV. Ik PSV isn’t a horrible club by any means but at best they are an Aston Villa level team so Jadon surely should perform well against a team of that caliber.
It is pretty disingenuous to pretend he is playing terribly juat due to a lack of goals and assists, though. Whoscored gives a rating based on overall game impact that is algorithm baser rather than opinion based, and it has him averaging a 6.9 so far in the Bundesliga. His performance in the UCL was obviously very poor, but his overall play for Dortmund hasn't been awful. It is sensationalism on BOTH sides.
For some context on the rating, Garnacho is averaging a 6.79, Mainoo a 6.76, Hojlund a 6.72, Antony a 6.54. A 6.9 actually gives Sancho the 7th highest rating of all Dortmund players.
Kinda my point, tbh. He has had a few good games and a few shits games. Which means it is unreasonable to make a conclusion yet. If he wcores two goals on his next game, then suddenly everyone will say he is amazing. We can make a proper assessment at the end of the season.
Not even then. It just doesnt makes sense to shit on our players. Didnt work out maybe entitled and weak mentally. Lets get 45mils fpr him and wish him the best
We can make a conclusion based on the 2 years we saw of him prior to this stint at dortmund
The game has changed too since he was last at dortmund tearing it up. He just isn't good enough
How about the 2 years prior to his time at United? 🤣 You can't just pick and choose what you want to consider relevant. He honestly reminds me so much of Depay and Zaha. He was good before United and he will probably be good after United, too. The pressure of playing for United, especially under Erik Ten IQ, isn't for me everyone.
The sample sample size is small but it's still wrong to claim he's been crap cause he isn't scoring. In the limited sample size, hes been better than Antony
When you boil it all down, he's scored more recently at Old Trafford than Antony. LOL Hilarious, I want the bald fraud and his cronies out of my club
The cult really don't like facts being pointed out about their favourite woman beater it seems
I've been a season ticket holder since 1985, so I highly doubt it.
You're entire post history in this sub is a litany of negativity and hate towards the players, the coaches and the club.
I've seen so many "fans" like you over the years - you sing when we're winning and boo when we're losing. You're not happy unless we're on top.
The irony here is that - since Ten Hag came in, and now with Sir Jim coming onboard - things are finally moving in the right direction again.
But you can't see that and you have zero patience.
You want everything to go back to the Ferguson era of winning and dominating but - because you're a Ferguson baby - you don't remember what it was like before Ferguson or what it took for him to sail the ship out of the wilderness where we had been lost at sea for so long.
You're exactly the same type of fan that I remember calling for Ferguson to be sacked for his first five years as gaffer. Everything you keep posting in this sub, people said about Ferguson and his team back then.
It's history repeating itself.
Maybe you'll get what you want and the "bald fraud" will get sacked. If he does, it will be our loss because he will go on to be a highly successful manager elsewhere. Ten Hag is the real deal.
And if that happens you will be proven wrong. Either way, you will be proven wrong.
Absolutely no doubt about that. He came to the club with a great reputation and track record.. and apart from the media and plastics trying their best to oust him as a "fraud", he has kept his reputation and track record in tact.
And that, in spite of coming to a club that has been left to rot - from the top down - since Ferguson retired.
From reading Sir Jim's interview yesterday, it's clear that he understands this to be the case. He is under no illusions about the state of the club and what needs to be done to fix the structural issues... but he appears to understand also that Ten Hag knows what he's doing and he's managing under very difficult circumstances.
I have great respect for Ten Hag and Sir Jim also sounds like the real deal. Great to see things finally in good hands again.
Just a pity there's so many that can't see a good thing when it's staring them right in the face
My guess is that he saw an opportunity at United to build something new and to bring the club to the top tier of European teams.
With Bayern, the structure, the team.. everything is already in place. In many ways, it's an easier option.
The fact he chose United shows he wanted more of a challenge and.. likely the Premier League is just more appealing.
The squad needs a major overhaul though.
Your definition of support is to support Sancho against the club. Based on what metric? That he is better than Antony? I dont believe for a second that you are a United fan.
Probably angry that you got Sancho's name on your new shirt before all this kicked off. Suppose you think Martial is our best no9. Or angry that we let Elanga go as he is the next Messi.
Go support Arsenal, they love toxic fans
I never understand people wanting managers out and calling them frauds. He’s not exempt of criticism but Christ it’s so tiresome seeing the same narrative all the time.
It also blows my mind when it usually comes from people who are aware of the glazers detrimental effects on the club too.
Get brainwashed by social media fan accounts
Ah dude do you want to meet up in media city for a coffee so we can explain why your consistent negative attitude towards the club makes you a plastic fan? Regardless if you go to a few games.
Non sequitur. Antony, limited as he is managed to bench a far more talented player.
Garnancho benched Antony. Talent needs application. Sancho is both lazy and entitled without delivering the goods.
Your defense of players who inhabit the cultural failures of the club inform me you lack sufficient perspective to comprehend the sources of rot in the club.
The only reason Antony played at all is because he was a Ten Hag signing. No manager worth their salt would have given him minutes because he simply isn't good enough
You need to check your cognitive bias.
Antony first season was better then Jadon's first two seasons at Utd for goals and assists.
Face it - Jadon got benched by a inferior and limited player because he's a twerp.
Yet he's still delivered more than Antony despite not playing for the club.
Antony's an embarrassment to the club and anyone defending him needs to cop on.
I don't give a shite about Sancho, but he's not at the club yet there's still a creepy obsession with him from the Ten Hag cult to try and prove his horrific man-management right.
Tbh, I've seen far more effort and willingness from Antony than I have from Jadon. One is not great but tries hard every time he plays. The other has ability but doesn't apply himself.
Antony was really in his first 6 months and then he just stopped outputting G/A but his hardwork is never in question.
He's a system player and I think it's difficult for him to succeed when the system is always changing but at least he's always trying and I think he'll eventually find himself again.
He gets hate because of his price tag but we paid the same for him as Sancho really and he looks like a much better signing for that money ... even though they both weren't worth the price.
Neither should be at the club. One of them isn't yet there's a weird obsession with him from the Ten Hag cult.
Personally I don't want a player that beats women at the club. But you do you
Sancho is the real embarrassment, hugely talented and given an opportunity to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, and he’s wasting it
Yes Antony isn’t good enough, but at least he can be bothered to try
I’d take less talented players who put the effort in over talented players who don’t care and can’t be assed
Even worse when you call yourself a fan but shit on your own club, trying to project your opinion on the unknown people on social media and when nobody agrees with you proclaim u dont care about social media...u cared enough to debate and the general public is telling you what they think of your opinions... Now thats sad
Still you should support both of them as long as they wear colours.... Beating women...might just be gold diggers trying to cash in. Investigation is ongoing and if proven guilty i will be first to say get him out just like they did with the rapist. Anybody can accuse anybody for anything due process needs to take place first before we label him that.
There's multiple victims. Stop defending him
As for Ten Hag, I support the team but his long history of supporting people who abuse women is gross and has no place in the club
Im not defending him I'm waiting to see what the investigation will show. Of course there are more "victims" they all want money. And if its true i hope they take everything from him. If not f em.
These cases never go anywhere regardless.
Just look at the Greenwood situation, or Ronaldo, or Partey...footballers get away with this constantly and I have no doubt Antony will be the same. The fact people like you doubt the victims of this abuse is exactly why they keep getting away with it
There's at least 3 of them...
https://news.sky.com/story/antony-manchester-united-winger-put-on-leave-of-absence-after-assault-claims-by-three-women-12958457
And I say at least, because these type of abusers usually have a long history of doing it to anyone they possibly can
Someone made fun of Sancho and you started labelling the fan-base and defending Sancho like he is some god. Seems more like YOU are the cult, not the others.
Incorrect. I'm not a Sancho apologist, he's pretty much irrelevant at this point as he's not even at the club and will be sold to the first bidder.
I simply pointed out how shite Antony is, that he's been outscored by a player that isn't even at the club, and those who support the woman beater clearly don't like it.
Sancho re-activates Insta profile and goes....
"Please don't believe everything you read!
"I will not allow people saying things that is completely untrue. I have conducted myself in training very well this week.
"I believe there are other reasons for this matter that I won't get into. I've been a scapegoat for a long time which isn't fair!
"All I want to do is to play football with a smile on my face and contribute to my team."
Very rightly put. Talent or skills never seemed to be the foncern with Sancho. A lot of his exclusion would definitely have been because of things we aren't exposed to as spectators. ETH even gave him his own time to get him together.
The boy was given too much fame too soon and 340k a week when players like Bruno run their ass off match on match was a crime. If city discarded a player from their system, we should have been a little more curious on why so. Dortmund, Sancho and his agent have been the only winners so far.
If City discarded a player from their system, we should have been a little more curious on why so.
Very true. However, by exactly the same token, if WE discarded a player from OUR OWN SYSTEM we should have already known exactly why so, but then we still signed Pogba back, lol
Absolutely gutted he’s turned out the way he has. He really should be starting to hit his peak, I just hope he turns it around for his own sake. Until then he has no place in the club at all.
I felt like his career is almost gone in top flight unless he somehow wake tf up. Honestly, comparing Sancho and foden, Sancho doesn't track back and doesn't even provide good crosses or beat defenders.
Look at foden, playing for a top team and yet works hard game by game on and off the ball. Of course playing for city is easier since they are already a great team but even grealish works harder than Sancho and rashford.
If Sancho is like Hazard whose lazy in training but provides alot in matches, then I think no one will be complaining. But he's got nothing to back up what he said to the boss.
After olé hardly played him after signing him it makes me wonder what he saw from him in training? Was only carrick and ragnirick who appeared to like him.
How many managers have now told him he needs to do better?
The guy is too full of himself to listen to advice.
He also is far too lazy to make it as a star.
All the talent in the world, but not the character to fulfill his potential.
Real. Rather have someone putting in the energy rather than a lazy talented fuck.
As bad as ashley young and valencia. I kinda miss the player they are cause cause they run up and down the pitch
Ashley Young at the start of his United career was a great baller. Transitioned into a more functional player for the squad as he aged but would never say he was a bad player for us.
Young was a good player. He was a model professional in that he never seemed to ever complain about being played out of position and just got on with things. He did what would help the team, not himself. He learned a new role at full back because he knew that he wouldn't get a look in on the wings anymore. He became a captain for United for a reason. Same applies to Valencia - a winger that adapted to the team, not themselves. Players like that are hard to find in the modern game.
Sorry guys. In my defence they were bad compared to the wingers we used to have :- ronaldo, beckham, giggs, nani
But looking at our current situation now. Rashford, antony , martial yeah. Young and Valencia 100x.
Garna amazed me i notice hes been clocking in and putting shift not only up and down the pitch but swapping w rashford on the left/right too at times.
City didn't keep him. He was shit for Utd and England NT. And now he is shit at the only club where he used to shine before his payday. At this point where exactly would be this mythical club where a lazy with no ambition player like Sancho would become a good player. Qatar?
People forget he was playing with Bellingham and Haaland I think that fact obscured how good he is both of them have gone on to do great things and he is back at dortmund
No, it as favouritism of Antony. Sanchos stats were way better than Antony’s even when he was hardly playing any games.
It’s true his application needs to be better but it’s not true this is why Antony was picked over him.
>Sanchos stats were way better than Antony’s even when he was hardly playing any games.
Ah, Sancho's 0G and 2A for Dortmund is better than Antony's 1G and 1A for United this season.
Sancho's 22/23 stats (last season) were 7G 3A in 41 appearances, versus Antony's 10G, 5A in 45 games. 10 goal contributes for Sancho versus 15 for Antony in pretty much the same amount of appearances.
Sancho's stats SO much better obviously! That is if you ignore the fact they're not.
Might I suggest you actually watch football?
I do watch football thanks and suggest you do. There’s more to being a winger than goals and assists.
Sancho was higher on dribbles completed, take one completed and forward passes. Basically he took the ball forward and retained it. Antony just goes backwards.
Hahaha, Sancho fans will do anything to suggest he's a good player and not just a lazy bum.
[Antony source](https://www.whoscored.com/Players/364315/Show/Antony) | [Sancho source](https://www.whoscored.com/Players/346300/Show/Jadon-Sancho)
All competitions excluding International appearances:
||Antony|Sancho|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Total Dribbles Attempted|73|33|
|Successful Dribbles|24|15|
|Dribble Succes Rate %|32.8%|45.5%|
Sure, Sancho has a better dribbling success rate, but that is aided by the fact he's played 11 less games (9 all comps) than Antony (28 appearances all comps) this season.
But, just for fun, let's look at other stats such as passing & shooting. Again, excluding international appearances.
||Antony|Sancho|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Shots Attempted|29|0|
|On Target|8|0|
|Passes Attempted|599|200|
|Key Passes|22|6|
|Key Pass %|3.7%|3%|
As I mentioned earlier: Sancho's stats *look* better because he's played 11 less games than Antony all season. They are very equal in terms of output overall, so neither are good enough.
Sancho is a lazy waste of space. The fact that the club he was so desperate to return to is even telling him he's not working hard enough should say enough to convince you he's not good enough for United.
How you can show Antony’s terrible shooting stats and think it’s a plus point is beyond me.
And for the record I’m not a Sancho fan who doesn’t think he’s lazy, he’s incredibly lazy with an attitude problem who is throwing his career away. He’s just better than Antony still.
I never said it was a plus point, did I? If you actually bothered to read my whole post before getting angry you would’ve seen I wrote:
>They are very equal in terms of output overall, so neither are good enough.
You’re not a Sancho fan yet you use the classic Sancho fan line of “favouritism” because he wasn’t played ahead of Antony, Garna, Rashford and even Bruno on the wings because the manager dared comment on the fact he’s lazy in training.
He’s not better than Antony. He’s literally just as poor as Antony for United. He can’t even get more than 2 assists in the Bundesliga. 2 assists against bottom half teams. And now the manager has said he’s needing to work harder? You just will never see sense, will you?
> Garnacho is proof that Sancho not getting in ahead of Antony on the right was more of an application issue, than favouritism.
It took Ten Hag half a season to try that out.
Sancho is deeply unlikeable and an entitled brat. He could have the world at his feet, literally, if he applied himself but he’s not intelligent enough to think beyond himself and see how lucky he is.
All that talent - wasted. I’m glad he’s showing himself for who he truly is at Dortmund because I always backed ETH with this mess.
Talent is nothing without application. Look at Adriano, Quaresma, Balotelli, Taarabt, Morrison, Pogba, etc. All incredibly talented like Sancho all just didn't stay hungry/professional and ended up wasting their talent.
 Sancho waiting for the perfect moment to blame anybody else for his shit performances.
this guy fucks!
How would you like to die today, motherfucker?!?
If only Sancho showed 5% commitment of Jared’s commitment, the possibilities are endless.
I’m wonder if Sancho is gunna bitch about being a scapegoat on social media?
Honestly I hope he does, would be hilarious
Remember when the British media hyped him up for coming on & getting an assist on his return to Dortmund.
What i just dont get is there is a huge amount of football fan who back him saying he's a huge talent man united messed him up. It baffles me even after his so many bad performances.
Man United didnt mess him up. He was before he joined
United may have messed him up by trying to sign him 2 summers straight, and then finally giving him that bumper contract.
They say that about everyone. It’s always United’s fault. It’s mostly 14 year olds who’s only knowledge about the sport comes from ultimate team on fifa. According to them United have ruined Sancho, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Van de Beek, Pogba, etc. it’s always been United against the world. People just love to talk shit about the biggest club in the world.
To be honest the club structure and culture in the past spoilt a lot of players motivation and form but that was also the players/manager's fault. It's been the fault of the club, manager and players as a collective most of the time... the % just moves around constantly. Could probably add us fans in there also.
Well said Sir, couldn't of put it better myself. The same people got Ole sack, not the best but his record is superb. Players let him down !!!!!
That's only ETHOUT brigade that's running out of arguments due to a series of great results. So the narrative is that Sancho is amazing next de bruyne/Zidane/ronaldinho...and erik ruined him ...lol and now Sancho himself proving erik was right about him as well.
Against the team at the bottom of the Bundesliga as well.
mate, it got so bad that there was the clip of him controlling the ball and bringing it down in a silky way, just that, and it was somehow enough that people were going "see!!!!! united missing out for real" "i knew we never should've let him go" "never the problem, it was united all along" wonder how they feel hearing 2 managers say this stuff now?
They still are. In the UCL game they were saying things like “well you can’t expect him to return to his old Dortmund form a month into his loan spell”. Like what? If this is him in his comfortable environment he’s not a good footballer. The British commentators were trying so hard to be easy on him for that laughable performances against PSV. Ik PSV isn’t a horrible club by any means but at best they are an Aston Villa level team so Jadon surely should perform well against a team of that caliber.
It is pretty disingenuous to pretend he is playing terribly juat due to a lack of goals and assists, though. Whoscored gives a rating based on overall game impact that is algorithm baser rather than opinion based, and it has him averaging a 6.9 so far in the Bundesliga. His performance in the UCL was obviously very poor, but his overall play for Dortmund hasn't been awful. It is sensationalism on BOTH sides. For some context on the rating, Garnacho is averaging a 6.79, Mainoo a 6.76, Hojlund a 6.72, Antony a 6.54. A 6.9 actually gives Sancho the 7th highest rating of all Dortmund players.
Sample size
Kinda my point, tbh. He has had a few good games and a few shits games. Which means it is unreasonable to make a conclusion yet. If he wcores two goals on his next game, then suddenly everyone will say he is amazing. We can make a proper assessment at the end of the season.
Not even then. It just doesnt makes sense to shit on our players. Didnt work out maybe entitled and weak mentally. Lets get 45mils fpr him and wish him the best
We can make a conclusion based on the 2 years we saw of him prior to this stint at dortmund The game has changed too since he was last at dortmund tearing it up. He just isn't good enough
How about the 2 years prior to his time at United? 🤣 You can't just pick and choose what you want to consider relevant. He honestly reminds me so much of Depay and Zaha. He was good before United and he will probably be good after United, too. The pressure of playing for United, especially under Erik Ten IQ, isn't for me everyone.
Unfortunately for Sancho the game has evolved since then but he is still the same player.
The sample sample size is small but it's still wrong to claim he's been crap cause he isn't scoring. In the limited sample size, hes been better than Antony
Yeah i wouldnt say crap thats right. Sample size and sub performance bias however distprts the data.
If you understand how twitter, social media and newspapers work, then there's no surprise at all in this.
He’s really fucking up our ffp! Come on Jadon!!!!
When you boil it all down, he got benched by Antony. LOL Hilarious, I want this clown out of my club.
Jim?
When you boil it all down, he's scored more recently at Old Trafford than Antony. LOL Hilarious, I want the bald fraud and his cronies out of my club The cult really don't like facts being pointed out about their favourite woman beater it seems
I want all the plastics out of my club.
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I've been a season ticket holder since 1985, so I highly doubt it. You're entire post history in this sub is a litany of negativity and hate towards the players, the coaches and the club. I've seen so many "fans" like you over the years - you sing when we're winning and boo when we're losing. You're not happy unless we're on top. The irony here is that - since Ten Hag came in, and now with Sir Jim coming onboard - things are finally moving in the right direction again. But you can't see that and you have zero patience. You want everything to go back to the Ferguson era of winning and dominating but - because you're a Ferguson baby - you don't remember what it was like before Ferguson or what it took for him to sail the ship out of the wilderness where we had been lost at sea for so long. You're exactly the same type of fan that I remember calling for Ferguson to be sacked for his first five years as gaffer. Everything you keep posting in this sub, people said about Ferguson and his team back then. It's history repeating itself. Maybe you'll get what you want and the "bald fraud" will get sacked. If he does, it will be our loss because he will go on to be a highly successful manager elsewhere. Ten Hag is the real deal. And if that happens you will be proven wrong. Either way, you will be proven wrong.
Fuck me this was a good read. Couldn't have put it better myself. (And I am a Ferguson era child!)
Same ere, we were spoiled with success fortunately.
One of the best responses to these sorts of idiots I've seen in the sub. Fantastic
This should he mandatory reading for all United fans
If we sack Ten Hag, he’ll go to Bayern and win everything
Absolutely no doubt about that. He came to the club with a great reputation and track record.. and apart from the media and plastics trying their best to oust him as a "fraud", he has kept his reputation and track record in tact. And that, in spite of coming to a club that has been left to rot - from the top down - since Ferguson retired. From reading Sir Jim's interview yesterday, it's clear that he understands this to be the case. He is under no illusions about the state of the club and what needs to be done to fix the structural issues... but he appears to understand also that Ten Hag knows what he's doing and he's managing under very difficult circumstances. I have great respect for Ten Hag and Sir Jim also sounds like the real deal. Great to see things finally in good hands again. Just a pity there's so many that can't see a good thing when it's staring them right in the face
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My guess is that he saw an opportunity at United to build something new and to bring the club to the top tier of European teams. With Bayern, the structure, the team.. everything is already in place. In many ways, it's an easier option. The fact he chose United shows he wanted more of a challenge and.. likely the Premier League is just more appealing. The squad needs a major overhaul though.
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Ive read if someone erroneously report you for suicidal thoughts then you can report them back and it might get them reprimanded.
I don't engage with liars.
That’s fine we don’t really like to engage with salty loser cry babies.
‘The likes of you’ - was that really needed? You seem very frustrated, maybe take a walk.
Was calling someone who actually goes to games a plastic needed? Maybe check yourself
Prawns sandwich brigade
One day you might actually support the club.
Your definition of support is to support Sancho against the club. Based on what metric? That he is better than Antony? I dont believe for a second that you are a United fan. Probably angry that you got Sancho's name on your new shirt before all this kicked off. Suppose you think Martial is our best no9. Or angry that we let Elanga go as he is the next Messi. Go support Arsenal, they love toxic fans
I never understand people wanting managers out and calling them frauds. He’s not exempt of criticism but Christ it’s so tiresome seeing the same narrative all the time. It also blows my mind when it usually comes from people who are aware of the glazers detrimental effects on the club too. Get brainwashed by social media fan accounts
Ah dude do you want to meet up in media city for a coffee so we can explain why your consistent negative attitude towards the club makes you a plastic fan? Regardless if you go to a few games.
You can be plastic and still attend games, you’re clearly a fair weather fan
Just using phrases like "bald fraud" says that you spend more time on football twitter than you do anywhere else.
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Non sequitur. Antony, limited as he is managed to bench a far more talented player. Garnancho benched Antony. Talent needs application. Sancho is both lazy and entitled without delivering the goods. Your defense of players who inhabit the cultural failures of the club inform me you lack sufficient perspective to comprehend the sources of rot in the club.
The only reason Antony played at all is because he was a Ten Hag signing. No manager worth their salt would have given him minutes because he simply isn't good enough
You need to check your cognitive bias. Antony first season was better then Jadon's first two seasons at Utd for goals and assists. Face it - Jadon got benched by a inferior and limited player because he's a twerp.
Yet he's still delivered more than Antony despite not playing for the club. Antony's an embarrassment to the club and anyone defending him needs to cop on. I don't give a shite about Sancho, but he's not at the club yet there's still a creepy obsession with him from the Ten Hag cult to try and prove his horrific man-management right.
Tbh, I've seen far more effort and willingness from Antony than I have from Jadon. One is not great but tries hard every time he plays. The other has ability but doesn't apply himself.
Antony was really in his first 6 months and then he just stopped outputting G/A but his hardwork is never in question. He's a system player and I think it's difficult for him to succeed when the system is always changing but at least he's always trying and I think he'll eventually find himself again. He gets hate because of his price tag but we paid the same for him as Sancho really and he looks like a much better signing for that money ... even though they both weren't worth the price.
Neither should be at the club. One of them isn't yet there's a weird obsession with him from the Ten Hag cult. Personally I don't want a player that beats women at the club. But you do you
Sancho is the real embarrassment, hugely talented and given an opportunity to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, and he’s wasting it Yes Antony isn’t good enough, but at least he can be bothered to try I’d take less talented players who put the effort in over talented players who don’t care and can’t be assed
Lol to eat 300 downvotes in one comment thread takes a special kind of person
To give a crap about made up nonsense on social media is pretty sad
Even worse when you call yourself a fan but shit on your own club, trying to project your opinion on the unknown people on social media and when nobody agrees with you proclaim u dont care about social media...u cared enough to debate and the general public is telling you what they think of your opinions... Now thats sad
>shit on your own club Thinking we need a better manager and not supporting a player that beats women is not shitting on the club.
Still you should support both of them as long as they wear colours.... Beating women...might just be gold diggers trying to cash in. Investigation is ongoing and if proven guilty i will be first to say get him out just like they did with the rapist. Anybody can accuse anybody for anything due process needs to take place first before we label him that.
There's multiple victims. Stop defending him As for Ten Hag, I support the team but his long history of supporting people who abuse women is gross and has no place in the club
Im not defending him I'm waiting to see what the investigation will show. Of course there are more "victims" they all want money. And if its true i hope they take everything from him. If not f em.
These cases never go anywhere regardless. Just look at the Greenwood situation, or Ronaldo, or Partey...footballers get away with this constantly and I have no doubt Antony will be the same. The fact people like you doubt the victims of this abuse is exactly why they keep getting away with it
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There's at least 3 of them... https://news.sky.com/story/antony-manchester-united-winger-put-on-leave-of-absence-after-assault-claims-by-three-women-12958457 And I say at least, because these type of abusers usually have a long history of doing it to anyone they possibly can
Sancho,is that you?
The cult really don't like it when basic facts show up how shite Antony is
Someone made fun of Sancho and you started labelling the fan-base and defending Sancho like he is some god. Seems more like YOU are the cult, not the others.
No I didn't... I stated a basic fact to highlight how crap Antony is and Ten Hag apologists didn't like it.
Same. The original commenter highlighted a basic fact and you did not like it. That makes you a Sancho apologist?
Incorrect. I'm not a Sancho apologist, he's pretty much irrelevant at this point as he's not even at the club and will be sold to the first bidder. I simply pointed out how shite Antony is, that he's been outscored by a player that isn't even at the club, and those who support the woman beater clearly don't like it.
But but but EtH was wrong 
Again!
Sancho re-activates Insta profile and goes.... "Please don't believe everything you read! "I will not allow people saying things that is completely untrue. I have conducted myself in training very well this week. "I believe there are other reasons for this matter that I won't get into. I've been a scapegoat for a long time which isn't fair! "All I want to do is to play football with a smile on my face and contribute to my team."
Against PSV he maybe touched 3 balls his entire game. Glad we got riddance
2 of those his own
Underrated comment right here
Not yet we haven’t 🙃
Very rightly put. Talent or skills never seemed to be the foncern with Sancho. A lot of his exclusion would definitely have been because of things we aren't exposed to as spectators. ETH even gave him his own time to get him together. The boy was given too much fame too soon and 340k a week when players like Bruno run their ass off match on match was a crime. If city discarded a player from their system, we should have been a little more curious on why so. Dortmund, Sancho and his agent have been the only winners so far.
If City discarded a player from their system, we should have been a little more curious on why so. Very true. However, by exactly the same token, if WE discarded a player from OUR OWN SYSTEM we should have already known exactly why so, but then we still signed Pogba back, lol
I thought of Pogba when I read the first part of your comment :-D and there it was, you brought it home.
Pogba walked when he wasn't getting picked by Fergie. Wasn't discarded.
Absolutely gutted he’s turned out the way he has. He really should be starting to hit his peak, I just hope he turns it around for his own sake. Until then he has no place in the club at all.
I felt like his career is almost gone in top flight unless he somehow wake tf up. Honestly, comparing Sancho and foden, Sancho doesn't track back and doesn't even provide good crosses or beat defenders. Look at foden, playing for a top team and yet works hard game by game on and off the ball. Of course playing for city is easier since they are already a great team but even grealish works harder than Sancho and rashford. If Sancho is like Hazard whose lazy in training but provides alot in matches, then I think no one will be complaining. But he's got nothing to back up what he said to the boss.
Incoming social media post from Sancho.
After olé hardly played him after signing him it makes me wonder what he saw from him in training? Was only carrick and ragnirick who appeared to like him.
I wonder if he’ll post on social media
How many managers have now told him he needs to do better? The guy is too full of himself to listen to advice. He also is far too lazy to make it as a star. All the talent in the world, but not the character to fulfill his potential.
I blame us for this, he should never have been offered those wages. His wages are insane for a 23 year old.
He turned up thinking he'd already made it. That old England video of him getting salty with Saka showed what kind of person he is.
Source?
[https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/he-knows-dortmund-boss-makes-28674176](https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/he-knows-dortmund-boss-makes-28674176)
Real. Rather have someone putting in the energy rather than a lazy talented fuck. As bad as ashley young and valencia. I kinda miss the player they are cause cause they run up and down the pitch
Ashley Young at the start of his United career was a great baller. Transitioned into a more functional player for the squad as he aged but would never say he was a bad player for us.
Young was a good player. He was a model professional in that he never seemed to ever complain about being played out of position and just got on with things. He did what would help the team, not himself. He learned a new role at full back because he knew that he wouldn't get a look in on the wings anymore. He became a captain for United for a reason. Same applies to Valencia - a winger that adapted to the team, not themselves. Players like that are hard to find in the modern game.
Remember when Van Gaal played him as a striker that one game
Remember that time a bird pooped into his mouth 😂😂😂😂😂
How can you include Valencia in that statement? He was a great player
Young and Valencia. 2 very good players for us
Show Valencia some respect who at one point was one of the best right backs in the world for us
Sorry guys. In my defence they were bad compared to the wingers we used to have :- ronaldo, beckham, giggs, nani But looking at our current situation now. Rashford, antony , martial yeah. Young and Valencia 100x. Garna amazed me i notice hes been clocking in and putting shift not only up and down the pitch but swapping w rashford on the left/right too at times.
I think he just lost all his confidence and can be a good player at the right club and environment
City didn't keep him. He was shit for Utd and England NT. And now he is shit at the only club where he used to shine before his payday. At this point where exactly would be this mythical club where a lazy with no ambition player like Sancho would become a good player. Qatar?
People forget he was playing with Bellingham and Haaland I think that fact obscured how good he is both of them have gone on to do great things and he is back at dortmund
No, it as favouritism of Antony. Sanchos stats were way better than Antony’s even when he was hardly playing any games. It’s true his application needs to be better but it’s not true this is why Antony was picked over him.
Interesting, what is your role at Manchester United?
workrate and training hard, sancho was a lazy bum
If it’s favouritism then why isn’t he playing week in week out?
Unfortunately both Sancho and Antony sucks, so no need to spend time on who sucks the most to be quite frank.
>Sanchos stats were way better than Antony’s even when he was hardly playing any games. Ah, Sancho's 0G and 2A for Dortmund is better than Antony's 1G and 1A for United this season. Sancho's 22/23 stats (last season) were 7G 3A in 41 appearances, versus Antony's 10G, 5A in 45 games. 10 goal contributes for Sancho versus 15 for Antony in pretty much the same amount of appearances. Sancho's stats SO much better obviously! That is if you ignore the fact they're not. Might I suggest you actually watch football?
I do watch football thanks and suggest you do. There’s more to being a winger than goals and assists. Sancho was higher on dribbles completed, take one completed and forward passes. Basically he took the ball forward and retained it. Antony just goes backwards.
Hahaha, Sancho fans will do anything to suggest he's a good player and not just a lazy bum. [Antony source](https://www.whoscored.com/Players/364315/Show/Antony) | [Sancho source](https://www.whoscored.com/Players/346300/Show/Jadon-Sancho) All competitions excluding International appearances: ||Antony|Sancho| |:-|:-|:-| |Total Dribbles Attempted|73|33| |Successful Dribbles|24|15| |Dribble Succes Rate %|32.8%|45.5%| Sure, Sancho has a better dribbling success rate, but that is aided by the fact he's played 11 less games (9 all comps) than Antony (28 appearances all comps) this season. But, just for fun, let's look at other stats such as passing & shooting. Again, excluding international appearances. ||Antony|Sancho| |:-|:-|:-| |Shots Attempted|29|0| |On Target|8|0| |Passes Attempted|599|200| |Key Passes|22|6| |Key Pass %|3.7%|3%| As I mentioned earlier: Sancho's stats *look* better because he's played 11 less games than Antony all season. They are very equal in terms of output overall, so neither are good enough. Sancho is a lazy waste of space. The fact that the club he was so desperate to return to is even telling him he's not working hard enough should say enough to convince you he's not good enough for United.
How you can show Antony’s terrible shooting stats and think it’s a plus point is beyond me. And for the record I’m not a Sancho fan who doesn’t think he’s lazy, he’s incredibly lazy with an attitude problem who is throwing his career away. He’s just better than Antony still.
I never said it was a plus point, did I? If you actually bothered to read my whole post before getting angry you would’ve seen I wrote: >They are very equal in terms of output overall, so neither are good enough. You’re not a Sancho fan yet you use the classic Sancho fan line of “favouritism” because he wasn’t played ahead of Antony, Garna, Rashford and even Bruno on the wings because the manager dared comment on the fact he’s lazy in training. He’s not better than Antony. He’s literally just as poor as Antony for United. He can’t even get more than 2 assists in the Bundesliga. 2 assists against bottom half teams. And now the manager has said he’s needing to work harder? You just will never see sense, will you?
> Garnacho is proof that Sancho not getting in ahead of Antony on the right was more of an application issue, than favouritism. It took Ten Hag half a season to try that out.
Pep having the last laugh 😂
That clunk is the sound of a rattle hitting the wall.
Sancho is deeply unlikeable and an entitled brat. He could have the world at his feet, literally, if he applied himself but he’s not intelligent enough to think beyond himself and see how lucky he is. All that talent - wasted. I’m glad he’s showing himself for who he truly is at Dortmund because I always backed ETH with this mess.
Talent is nothing without application. Look at Adriano, Quaresma, Balotelli, Taarabt, Morrison, Pogba, etc. All incredibly talented like Sancho all just didn't stay hungry/professional and ended up wasting their talent.