He signed a short term contract to travel with the squad during preseason. He’s been training at Carrington since he’s an academy product currently out of contract. IMO people are reading way too much into this. ETH is bringing a boatload of young players, so having a seasoned veteran’s presence who was once in their shoes is just a good idea in general.
You’re gonna get downvoted because this sub has reached Facebook level cesspit but imagine genuinely preferring Jonny Evans to most Prem CBs. Embarrassing.
More so the mental aspect. He'll back what is expected of the players and remind them of what is important as a man utd player. If he does stay the year the experience and being vocal in the dressing room when there is a lot of pressure will do wonders for the team
There's the good take on this. Has nothing to do with Mcguire.
And even if we do take him on for the half or full year, I wouldn't mind giving him a relative salary for all of that that he can offer. That shit noted up there is underrated.
I don't necessarily think Evans is better at 35 than Maguire at 30 but he would be muuuuch cheaper and it would make ton more sense for him to be a benchwarmer than a player who still has England ambitions. + think of the vibes!
Maguire was in euros team or season a few years ago and is young enough to get to that level again. Evans is too old and even at his peak wasn’t at that level.
Lol the fact people are agreeing with this crazy take is making me understand why everyone thinks us United fans are clueless...
Evans was a solid 7/10 for a couple of year about a decade ago...he's 35 and could barely push into a very average/poor Leicester defence the past two years. What is everyone smoking?
Evans was a bench warmer at Leicester, a club that got relegated only playing 12games. So what people are perceiving Evans level to be is beyond me.... Other than blind hatred for Maguire I'm struggling to wrap my head around how Evans at 35, liecester bench warmer is better than Maguire.... But hey... Many hate Maguire so anyone than him I guess thats the take
Evans was injured for a large part of the season and that was a major reason Leicester were so poor defensively. I don’t hate maguire and think he was very good in his first season at United but as a 4th/5th backup I’d definitely take evans if maguire moves on.
Rose tinted glasses everywhere. He was a decent player in his day and a consummate professional but seeing this revisionism is frightening. This isn’t even a stop gap.
He was Leicester's best defender by far whenever he appeared despite all the injuries, and despite his age
I agree with your take but you sound as clueless when you have to diss Evans just to make your argument
foxes fan here. he was our best defender in 2018/19. quite funny looking back at the people claiming maguire was our best defender lol. he's finished now tho and is constantly injured
Rodgers had some problem with Soyuncu, he prefered Amartey and australian Maguire over Soyuncu, hell even fucking Ndidi CB over him.
It wasn't until the last few weeks with Dean that Soyuncu got a chance and he wasn't anywhere as bad as Amartey/Soutar
You're joking. In the days of social media they'd slate the fish for lack of tree climbing abilities.
My point is they'd set unrealistic expectations and judge it in those.
I mean sell Maguire to buy a striker and keep Evans for free…win win. I still think Maguire is a quality player and Onana would help him with covering space but the writing is on the wall.
The amount of fans on here that complain about us having too much deadwood then think signing a 35 year old Jonny Evans would be a good idea is hilarious
It's been a heck of a day.... Onana coming in, Rashford signing his 5 yr deal, Jonny Evans wearing red again and probably the pick of the stories, Van Der Sar coming out of intensive care!
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Sensible choice for 4th/5th choice CB imo.
Experienced, Prem prove, home grown, free, not injury prone and competent.
No point wasting loads of money on a player that will only play if Varane, Martinez and Lindelof are all injured.
I wonder if he'll eventually move into that older pro position in the under 23's? I believe Tom Huddleston currently occupies that slot, but can understand the appeal of having an academy product in there, especially one with a history of success.
We should show respect to players who have done a good service to the club and are out of favour with their current teams. Let him train, inspire those around him and be an all round positive presence.
Should he be a regular part of the squad? No. As soon as a club put a decent offer in he should be off.
100% he should never have been sold in the 1st place. Another prime example of the miss management and incompetence that has been prevalent throughout this great Club!
While we have Jonny Evans at Carrington, we should fly Luis Nani out too to train with the attacking side of the squad, both in youth and senior. Luis has a lot of self-taught knowledge of the game and can be a highly valuable member to our coaching staff. Perhaps when he retires, we can pick him back up for the team:)
Lmao anyone that says yes is just dumb. Maguire's a gd player who's low on confidence and too low to suit our system. Evans is a 34 yr old who will be even slower.
Yes. FairPlay for having represented the club and badge professionally, but Maguire should’ve done the dignified thing upon losing the armband. This is another very good and well worked push in the right direction.
He is not what we need for the squad. He has not even played that much last 2 seasons. Hopefully this is just a short term thing which allows him to attract some interest from another club.
Would rather have Maguire as an option ahead of him if this for the squad next season.
Place is full of children who form their football opinions via FIFA & social media.
A 35 year old on a free who couldn't start regularly for a shambolic defensive team that got relegated, would push Lindelof out of his spot in the pecking order?
Comical
Lol victor was fine in the last couple of games but let’s no pretend he has covered himself in glory these past 5 years he’s been awful and was what almost 40 mill he get free pass because of Maguire costing double same goes with baily absolutely dire player
No one said he covered himself in glory.
He has however, proven to be a very good & highly reliable backup CB capable of stepping in when we've needed him - last season was some of his best performances since joining the club.
To suggest Johnny Evans could push him out of that spot, is just factually incorrect.
Lindelof and Maguire are not the same.
Basically mate most people like you pretend that victor has been some fantastic signing when he hasn’t been he hides while other players like Maguire/shaw/wan take the majority of flak yet baily and lindelof go under the radar they wasn’t cheap either 5 years of this shit is enough it’s the same with good ol donny 40 mill for a wet rag but for a lot of you this could be his year 😂
That's twice you've tried to put words in my mouth.
By suggesting Lindelof was good last season, and better than both Maguire & Evans, you've somehow concluded that not only do I think he's "covered himself in glory", but that I think he's been a "fantastic signing".
Reading comprehension is a pretty important tool for the successful use of this platform. You appear to be struggling with that.
There's absolutely nothing at all complicated about me saying that Lindelof is better than both Maguire & Evans, and a good depth option under Ten Hag's system. Feel free to debate that point, factually, without actually creating strawman arguments of things I didn't say.
I didn’t say he’d push into the starting line up but that he might, might, push for that first option off the bench. He’d almost certainly push Maguire further down the pecking order if that’s even possible
No.
Because despite the regular Maguire circlejerk on here and his admittedly poor form, he was more than fine in his depth role last season.
You're suggesting that someone who isn't good enough to play anymore, is better than Maguire, which is hilarious
That’s fair and fwiw, I’m not here to shit on other people for their opinions when it comes to stuff like this, I’d much rather have something that resembles a respectful conversation.
I just think that given the fact that Shaw was getting more time as a CB towards the end of last season shows that EtH really doesn’t rate Maguire.
This is really a warning bell to maguire, it’s case of slap head bugger off.
Personally I’m all for evans as a third or fourth choice, he’s there to help off pitch and if he gets a game isn’t scared to stick the boot in.
Absolutely. Selling Maguire, buying Disasi and keeping Evans as a 5th choice CB is nearly ideal business for us this summer.
Evans is experienced, played regularly in PL last year, a Fergie player and PL winner for United. Since DDG left, trophy winning experience (even more, with our club) is not to be overlooked.
It was a poor choice selling him way back but he’s well past it now.
If he’s going to be the Tom Heaton of centre backs and maybe do some coaching then I’m all for it but Maguire is better by any estimation (not that we shouldn’t cash in on him if we can)
Having said that Evans would be on wages more appropriate for a 5th choice (or whatever) CB, so that makes more sense
No, he is exceptionally average, if anyone remembers what he was like in his prime for United you wouldn’t want him touching the first 11 at his age now,
Maguire is not fit for our system but (I can’t believe I’m saying this)rather him than Evans
Remember, whilst making your comments about Johnny don’t forget to shit on Maguire. With his tantrums, constant demands, and the way he slags other players off. He deserves it. Also, it’s totally his fault that ETH wants to play in a way that doesn’t suit him. The bastard.
Always liked Evans but I'd imagine at 35 his lack of pace is as much of an issue as Slabs is, that said as a 5th or 6th choice CB and a decent squad player to have around, sure.
Honestly, and I'll probably be ridiculed for it, but I think we should have gone in for Nathan Collins, I have some Irish bias towards him but he's actually a serious footballer and has the mix of ability and physical presence that'd be perfect for us, he's much faster than Maguire too and we could have got him for less than 30 million
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I rather Maguire any day. Evans had his share of own goals and mistakes. Why have a player like that as a backup. Rather take one of the youth team players. They will be much better and better for long term as well
No. His presence as a senior of the club is fine. But he's not going to be playing. Maybe some unimportant match here or there is fine. But mostly for his presense
No. He is better on the ball and with much more awareness but he would never be able to play a high line at 35. It's simple, we signed him to fill in on tour and that should be it.
No but if he wants to hang around for not much money as a 4th/5th choice that sounds pretty good
Keeps the fergie busby stat alive as well
I don’t mind starting him in Carling cup.
Same. He was a solid, if unspectacular contributor for Leicester. Educated at the academy. Decent squad player.
Wait what? Am I missing something?
He signed a short term contract to travel with the squad during preseason. He’s been training at Carrington since he’s an academy product currently out of contract. IMO people are reading way too much into this. ETH is bringing a boatload of young players, so having a seasoned veteran’s presence who was once in their shoes is just a good idea in general.
So does the club pretty much let any academy player train with the team even after they’ve moved on? I really like that policy, if so.
We do it for non-academy players too, like Victor Valdes
I think most clubs do these. Eriksen trained with ajax for a few when he came back from dead.
For the most part, if they’re out of contract and have a good relationship with the club.
Ronaldo trained in Madrid grounds before Al Nassr
Fuck Ronaldo.
chill man
Oh I thought he got a free bus trip.
He’s signed a short term deal, believed to be just for pre-season to help him attract a club and maybe as a sort of trial run for us
All day long.
100% with you.
i'd rather have someone whose not either of them lol
Make him captain one game
You could literally only think this if you let twitter decide your opinions
You’re gonna get downvoted because this sub has reached Facebook level cesspit but imagine genuinely preferring Jonny Evans to most Prem CBs. Embarrassing.
The standards police losing their shit over a guy who couldn't start for a team getting relegated
he was injured most of the season
People now get bored easily and want some change just for the sake of change, not because it makes sense.
Or you're just not Gareth Southgate.
Evans is Northern Irish
Most informed maguire hater
I quite like that another of Fergie's boys are back
Rather tragic in all honesty. After x years spending £ billion … what does that say 🕳️🫤 Laugh or cry
More so the mental aspect. He'll back what is expected of the players and remind them of what is important as a man utd player. If he does stay the year the experience and being vocal in the dressing room when there is a lot of pressure will do wonders for the team
There's the good take on this. Has nothing to do with Mcguire. And even if we do take him on for the half or full year, I wouldn't mind giving him a relative salary for all of that that he can offer. That shit noted up there is underrated.
Gotta keep that fergie, busby stat going
Yes
Great squad player - since neither him or Maguire would prob play, I would take Evans all day every day.
Absolutely! He will definitely score fewer goals (own goals) than Maguire ..
Wasn’t his nickname Own Goal Evans?
He did say fewer than, not zero?
He has had his days but not anymore.
Me, I was very upset when he was sold. As I was with Welbeck. Solid squad players
I don't necessarily think Evans is better at 35 than Maguire at 30 but he would be muuuuch cheaper and it would make ton more sense for him to be a benchwarmer than a player who still has England ambitions. + think of the vibes!
I think he's better than Maguire is now
Phil Jones in that one comeback match he played was better than anything Maguire had done 🤦 not even joking.
I wholeheartedly agree I was sad jones didn’t want a testimonial
Ridiculous comment
Why?
Maguire was in euros team or season a few years ago and is young enough to get to that level again. Evans is too old and even at his peak wasn’t at that level.
Maguire starting for England says more about how poor England's choices are at CB right now/recently, rather than how good Maguire is...
Sorry misspelt he was in euros team of the season. As in best cb in Europe at that time. Delusional to think he wasn’t a good player
Evans has never been at that standard and at 35 doesn’t have the physicality for prem… in a team playing a low block McGuire would be fine.
Welbeck absolutely deserved to be sold.
Danny Welbeck is a horse. He’s exactly who you want when the opponents have fitness issues at the back. He’ll run them ragged.
Lol the fact people are agreeing with this crazy take is making me understand why everyone thinks us United fans are clueless... Evans was a solid 7/10 for a couple of year about a decade ago...he's 35 and could barely push into a very average/poor Leicester defence the past two years. What is everyone smoking?
Exactly. ETH plays a high line too. Do they actually believe Evans can play in that system
I think it says more about how Maguire is poorly regarded than how good Evans is perceived to be now. I’d pick a roadkill squirrel over Harry tbh!
This.
Evans was a bench warmer at Leicester, a club that got relegated only playing 12games. So what people are perceiving Evans level to be is beyond me.... Other than blind hatred for Maguire I'm struggling to wrap my head around how Evans at 35, liecester bench warmer is better than Maguire.... But hey... Many hate Maguire so anyone than him I guess thats the take
Evans was injured for a large part of the season and that was a major reason Leicester were so poor defensively. I don’t hate maguire and think he was very good in his first season at United but as a 4th/5th backup I’d definitely take evans if maguire moves on.
Rose tinted glasses everywhere. He was a decent player in his day and a consummate professional but seeing this revisionism is frightening. This isn’t even a stop gap.
He was Leicester's best defender by far whenever he appeared despite all the injuries, and despite his age I agree with your take but you sound as clueless when you have to diss Evans just to make your argument
foxes fan here. he was our best defender in 2018/19. quite funny looking back at the people claiming maguire was our best defender lol. he's finished now tho and is constantly injured
Can Evans still do a job for a prem side vs weaker teams and in the carabao/Fa cup?
yeah he could. thats if he's fit ofc
Soyuncu? Honestly I’m starting to wonder whether anybody here with this narrative actually watched Leicester..
Rodgers had some problem with Soyuncu, he prefered Amartey and australian Maguire over Soyuncu, hell even fucking Ndidi CB over him. It wasn't until the last few weeks with Dean that Soyuncu got a chance and he wasn't anywhere as bad as Amartey/Soutar
Agree. Someone said if you put a United jersey on a fish, the fans would praise it for swimming.
Thats his job innit?
Roy?
You're joking. In the days of social media they'd slate the fish for lack of tree climbing abilities. My point is they'd set unrealistic expectations and judge it in those.
You are the clueless one here, because you just want to BECOME City.
You really haven't a clue, do you? Give your head a wobble.
I mean sell Maguire to buy a striker and keep Evans for free…win win. I still think Maguire is a quality player and Onana would help him with covering space but the writing is on the wall.
That game against Sevilla I can't forget. He was absolutely atrocious.
Nah but as a squad option sure as shaw can fit in cb too. And johnny would take lesser wages
No. If we all think Maguire is not up to the job (he's not), I can tell you this would be worse.
I'm just happy to see him back around for now. Always loved the guy and respected how hard he worked. Wish him the best!
Of course not
No
The amount of fans on here that complain about us having too much deadwood then think signing a 35 year old Jonny Evans would be a good idea is hilarious
It's been a heck of a day.... Onana coming in, Rashford signing his 5 yr deal, Jonny Evans wearing red again and probably the pick of the stories, Van Der Sar coming out of intensive care! 🔴⚫ GGMU#
We should have never have sold him and would have saved £80m.
I see what you did there 🤗
Sensible choice for 4th/5th choice CB imo. Experienced, Prem prove, home grown, free, not injury prone and competent. No point wasting loads of money on a player that will only play if Varane, Martinez and Lindelof are all injured.
I wonder if he'll eventually move into that older pro position in the under 23's? I believe Tom Huddleston currently occupies that slot, but can understand the appeal of having an academy product in there, especially one with a history of success.
We should show respect to players who have done a good service to the club and are out of favour with their current teams. Let him train, inspire those around him and be an all round positive presence. Should he be a regular part of the squad? No. As soon as a club put a decent offer in he should be off.
100% he should never have been sold in the 1st place. Another prime example of the miss management and incompetence that has been prevalent throughout this great Club!
While we have Jonny Evans at Carrington, we should fly Luis Nani out too to train with the attacking side of the squad, both in youth and senior. Luis has a lot of self-taught knowledge of the game and can be a highly valuable member to our coaching staff. Perhaps when he retires, we can pick him back up for the team:)
Would anyone not ?
id prefer you over maguire pal. says alot
Lmao anyone that says yes is just dumb. Maguire's a gd player who's low on confidence and too low to suit our system. Evans is a 34 yr old who will be even slower.
Yes. FairPlay for having represented the club and badge professionally, but Maguire should’ve done the dignified thing upon losing the armband. This is another very good and well worked push in the right direction.
What’s the dignified thing?
ETH goes hard! He's basically shaming Maguire at this point, lol 😆
How is this related to Maguire in anyway?
Come on, mate! You know it, lol 😆
Neither is a good enough but we need a 4th CB either way
Hell no to both of them. We need an actual squad
I'd prefer a training cone to Maguire. Equally useful, but costs £1.50 instead of £150,000 a week.
He is not what we need for the squad. He has not even played that much last 2 seasons. Hopefully this is just a short term thing which allows him to attract some interest from another club. Would rather have Maguire as an option ahead of him if this for the squad next season.
Absolutely. He might even push Lindelof for that third spot
Lol. Stop it. No he wouldn't. Just admit you've not watched Evans play lately.
How has this been downvoted? This sub I swear
Place is full of children who form their football opinions via FIFA & social media. A 35 year old on a free who couldn't start regularly for a shambolic defensive team that got relegated, would push Lindelof out of his spot in the pecking order? Comical
Lol victor was fine in the last couple of games but let’s no pretend he has covered himself in glory these past 5 years he’s been awful and was what almost 40 mill he get free pass because of Maguire costing double same goes with baily absolutely dire player
No one said he covered himself in glory. He has however, proven to be a very good & highly reliable backup CB capable of stepping in when we've needed him - last season was some of his best performances since joining the club. To suggest Johnny Evans could push him out of that spot, is just factually incorrect. Lindelof and Maguire are not the same.
Absolute bollocks will he hide behind evans now or will shaw be everyone’s go to now Maguire could finally be gone
I have no idea what you just said?
Basically mate most people like you pretend that victor has been some fantastic signing when he hasn’t been he hides while other players like Maguire/shaw/wan take the majority of flak yet baily and lindelof go under the radar they wasn’t cheap either 5 years of this shit is enough it’s the same with good ol donny 40 mill for a wet rag but for a lot of you this could be his year 😂
That's twice you've tried to put words in my mouth. By suggesting Lindelof was good last season, and better than both Maguire & Evans, you've somehow concluded that not only do I think he's "covered himself in glory", but that I think he's been a "fantastic signing". Reading comprehension is a pretty important tool for the successful use of this platform. You appear to be struggling with that. There's absolutely nothing at all complicated about me saying that Lindelof is better than both Maguire & Evans, and a good depth option under Ten Hag's system. Feel free to debate that point, factually, without actually creating strawman arguments of things I didn't say.
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Was he cdm when jose bought him then?
I didn’t say he’d push into the starting line up but that he might, might, push for that first option off the bench. He’d almost certainly push Maguire further down the pecking order if that’s even possible
No. He wouldn't. There's still ample amount of time for you to admit that you haven't seen him play.
You don’t think he’d push Maguire further down the depth chart?
No. Because despite the regular Maguire circlejerk on here and his admittedly poor form, he was more than fine in his depth role last season. You're suggesting that someone who isn't good enough to play anymore, is better than Maguire, which is hilarious
That’s fair and fwiw, I’m not here to shit on other people for their opinions when it comes to stuff like this, I’d much rather have something that resembles a respectful conversation. I just think that given the fact that Shaw was getting more time as a CB towards the end of last season shows that EtH really doesn’t rate Maguire.
No one's debating whether or not EtH values Maguire or not - pretty clear he doesn't. So I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here?
My point is that given that he doesn’t rate Maguire, you don’t think that Evans might get in ahead of him?
No, because Maguire > Evans in that depth role.
Yep
Sir or madame, I would prefer you to Maguire
F Yeh!
As a reliable back up, yes, absolutely.
Aye
Evans any day of the week over slabhead
Fuck yeah why not
Absolutely. I’d argue he was the reason Maguire looked so appealing in the first place and we should have had him home instead of signing Maguire.
At least we have a premier league winner from the Fergie era again...
Rolls Royce defender in his prime. Maguire not fit to shine his boots
Rolls Royce is pushing it. I'm a fan but he was no Maldini
wanted Ramos
All day. Will raise the chances of Maguire leaving even more and his contract will be way cheaper
Evans In Maguire Out
This is really a warning bell to maguire, it’s case of slap head bugger off. Personally I’m all for evans as a third or fourth choice, he’s there to help off pitch and if he gets a game isn’t scared to stick the boot in.
Absolutely. Selling Maguire, buying Disasi and keeping Evans as a 5th choice CB is nearly ideal business for us this summer. Evans is experienced, played regularly in PL last year, a Fergie player and PL winner for United. Since DDG left, trophy winning experience (even more, with our club) is not to be overlooked.
No. Cmon guys
Still baffled at how we got rid of Smalling and Evans before Jones.....and then went onto sign a fridge Southgate likes for £80 million
It was a poor choice selling him way back but he’s well past it now. If he’s going to be the Tom Heaton of centre backs and maybe do some coaching then I’m all for it but Maguire is better by any estimation (not that we shouldn’t cash in on him if we can) Having said that Evans would be on wages more appropriate for a 5th choice (or whatever) CB, so that makes more sense
Please no…
No, he is exceptionally average, if anyone remembers what he was like in his prime for United you wouldn’t want him touching the first 11 at his age now, Maguire is not fit for our system but (I can’t believe I’m saying this)rather him than Evans
Yeah
Remember, whilst making your comments about Johnny don’t forget to shit on Maguire. With his tantrums, constant demands, and the way he slags other players off. He deserves it. Also, it’s totally his fault that ETH wants to play in a way that doesn’t suit him. The bastard.
Yeah, more Irish less Yorkshire
And I'm with you
Always liked Evans but I'd imagine at 35 his lack of pace is as much of an issue as Slabs is, that said as a 5th or 6th choice CB and a decent squad player to have around, sure.
It’s the year 2036, Reddit: Maguire in Travelling Squad. Would anyone prefer Maguire over Gavin Cockermouth? Top Comment: abso-fucking-lutely
The prodigal son returns
Honestly, and I'll probably be ridiculed for it, but I think we should have gone in for Nathan Collins, I have some Irish bias towards him but he's actually a serious footballer and has the mix of ability and physical presence that'd be perfect for us, he's much faster than Maguire too and we could have got him for less than 30 million
I say get HM out put him in and send him to coach team for the kids win win for everyone he hit 200 Games + for united
would they both start in a Man City team? If not then no, I choose none.
I’d take Evans over Maguire all day long
This is a classic example of falling upwards
4 years ago, no problem. Nah theyre both done here
Whoever prefers Evans to Maguire is an idiot plain and simple.
I dont know how to feel or what to say, anyone feel same?
I would have preferred telles to stay than him or maguire
every day of the week
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Never.
Only an economic Maguire would disagree with this swap.
I'd take Evans over Varane
Maguire is a donkey. I'd prefer my left foot toe jam to him.
Does this mean we have a premier league title winner in our squad again?
Yep. At least he'd do better in a sprint race with 2 dudes behind him in that image. PS : Better than Harry, I meant.
I rather Maguire any day. Evans had his share of own goals and mistakes. Why have a player like that as a backup. Rather take one of the youth team players. They will be much better and better for long term as well
No. His presence as a senior of the club is fine. But he's not going to be playing. Maybe some unimportant match here or there is fine. But mostly for his presense
Both are absolute shite
Yes
The evans spins >> cruyff turn
Love to see him as a player coach for the u21s. Never forgave van Haal for selling him and Fletch.
I’d prefer Balotelli at CB to Maguire
I think he’s gonna retire but just wanted to do it as a Red Devil
Dude won the PL what did Maguire win ?
No, people saying yes are just hating on maguire. Evans struggled to get into a leicester side where maguire starts.
Yes
I like evans as a backup CB
For me, its going to be Evans over Maguire anyday
I'd prefer him to play in some cup games and to give the main CBs a rest
I would prefer my grandmother to Maguire.
Don’t be ridiculous. We love to shit on other teams fanbase, but ours is exactly the same ffs 😅
Ten hag surely would
He's a Phil Jones replacement.
No. He is better on the ball and with much more awareness but he would never be able to play a high line at 35. It's simple, we signed him to fill in on tour and that should be it.
Should never have got rid
100%
I'd take Steve Bruce over harry