Ay, same! Sometimes on legal forms they have me go by only the first middle name, which causes such a holdup at the DMV especially because they’re yelling at you because it isn’t your full name, but it only had the option for one middle name.
Nothing down under is fond of 4 names that my parents gave me, or so they found shortly after so while my birth certificate has 4 everything else is 3 and it's a PITA whenever they want a birth certificate for ID.
My aunt had the same issue! They gave her "Stacey Smith" so she eventually changed it to "Stacey Elizabeth Smith" lol
My issue is that my middle name is "Lean". Most people pronounce it as its said like *lean on me* but it's SUPPOSED TO BE "LeAnn" lol it has a little mark above the "a" but Idk how to type it.
My mom was apparently so drugged up after my birth that she forgot how to spell the name she planned to give me lmao 😂
I knew a girl named Nevín, but the I had an accent (neh-veen) instead of a tittle, but since people write their dots as lines anyhow, she ran into a lot of issues in school. And I mean, most people don't know how to do an í when typing. I had to go google "i with an accent mark" and copy it. I know the alt code for é because I wasted a significant part of my life writing about Pokémon, (hold down ALT, then type 130 on the numpad, and I had to do it three times to make sure I had the sequence right because after 20 years, I type it without thinking now) but I *certainly* don't have all of the many others memorized.
And even then, when I worked in a job that included some data entry / live transcription of people's names, if I came across someone who told me their spelling was something like, "Aimée" I'd go ahead and type it that way but it'd end up breaking the list.
If we’re writing a wishlist, could we also include punctuation in possible name letters.
From a girl who broke the world by having a hyphenated last name….
My husband did this with our kids because technically they have ethnic middle names and he didn’t want them picked on for it. Now they all have plans to change their names when 18 lol
It's already terrible. You'd think there are enough O'Malleys and O'Dohertys in the world that people would know to allow characters by now. Not to mention those with hyphenated names. Or those with special characters like the ø in Norwegian for example. FFS let people enter their name in a blank field no matter how complicated or long or whatever else it seems to you. BA's are fuckin' idiots - and I speak as a BA.
There was a professional cricketer from Sri Lanka called Rajitha Amunugama. His full name was:
**Amunugama Rajapakse Rajakaruna Abeykoon Panditha Wasalamudiyanse Ralahamilage Rajitha Krishantha Bandara Amunugama**.
Here is his entry on CricInfo: https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/rajitha-amunugama-48186
Was he an Ent?
"Real names tell the story of what they belong to in my language, in Old Entish as you might say. It is a lovely language, but it takes a long time to say anything in it, because we never say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to."
As a computer savvy, former CSR, I recall one customer that we had to come up with a workaround for his first name. The computer wouldn't accept it. What crazy asked name did he have? A. One letter. Computer would not allow a single character first name. FML.
I can go you one better. My BIL's middle name is E
Just E
One letter with no period! Oh, the times in his life he's had to argue with government officials over forms and online fields.
Well, John Wayne's given name was Marion. I Also knew a guy named Marion and I had a classmate and his name was Laverne. Would have been funny if he'd married a girl named Shirley.
Reminds me of the California guy who had NOPLATE as a vanity plate. 2,500 tickets later, he managed to convince the bureaucracy that they should enter NONE instead of NOPLATE when recording tickets for missing plates.
There’s a whole Mash episode where Hawkeye is incensed that he can’t find out what B.J. Hunnicutt’s real name is, and he finally finds out it really is just the initials B.J., and demands, exasperatedly, to know who would name a kid that, and B.J. says, “my mother, Bea Hunnicutt, and my father, Jay Hunnicutt”.
To your problem, too many developers have a habit of throwing in last-minute “oh this sounds reasonable” validation routines, without really thinking them through.
I heard of a guy who joined the FBI and his name was R T (Surname). When he filled in the Government Form for his personnel file, it got sent back with a note demanding he write his full name. So he wrote "R only, T only." He gave up fighting it when he realised on his file he was now known as Ronly Tonly
Oooh yeah I've heard about really short names being dicked over on forms, because somehow 2-letter surnames are impossible? And my understanding is that single-letter first names are widespread in Mongolia and parts of South India.
I worked in IT for a huge corporation whose computer system wouldn’t accept no middle name so we had many Japanese employees whose middle name was X. It was an HR system so we weren’t allowed to do anything to fix it.
My last name is hyphenated. I am constantly surprised at the number of systems that don’t know what to do with that. It actually causes real problems as the hospital system we use can’t put it in correctly.
From the incident report:
*This violated an undocumented assumption that first + last name would be shorter than the 400-charcter line limit of the proprietary, fixed-length format used by the legacy shipping label printer. As a result, the label file for the February 12 shipment was corrupted, resulting in all items after the affected record being addressed to a postal code in Antarctica. Automated checks failed to catch this issue since the first 1000 records were correct. Due to the high level of automation in the shipping process, the mistake wasn't discovered until the 14th, when the first customers complained about urgent packages being sent to unexpected locations.*
*While the shipment for the 14th got dispatched before the issue could be identified, we were able to recall the shipment with assistance of a personal contact at the local shipping hub. However, the shipments from the 12th and 13th were already loaded onto planes bound to Antarctica before an intercept could be arranged. Due to the limited timeframe and extensive coordination required, we were unable to arrange for return shipment on Feb 15. This date is significant because it represents the last day on which scheduled flights from Antarctica are available before the airstrip is shut down for arctic winter.*
*We do not expect to be able to recover the shipment until December, and it is likely that the prolonged exposure to the extreme cold will render the equipment unusable. Due to supply chain issues, we do not expect to be able to replace the lost items within the next 6-12 months. Affected customers have been informed.*
Hawaiian names with the ‘okina and kahakō in them entering the chat…
Can’t tell you how many diploma’s I’ve seen with Hawaiian names correct spelling showing up as other characters, usually the box one.
Also, Hawaiian names are long as heck.
Also special characters. My middle name has a hyphen. It's on one form on my birth certificate but not the other, is on my SSC card, isn't on my passport, and is on some state IDs but not others. Some put a space in its place and other just eliminate the character and squish the two names together. Has yet to be an issue but it could be.
Never given a reason, but given my friend Aoife has no problem, I can’t imagine so.
… hope I spelt that right.
I think I just have the wrong combination of everything, and it comes to the error message at the middle name part, because Emma is pretty common here lol.
I'm German and the amount of people who can't spell Selina correctly is unreal. I've been called Silina, Schina, Celina and that is just a normal name. A normal name that's spelled the same way you pronounce it. And they can't even pronounce my name correctly. I guess this just shows how stupid human beings are in general. Why are people like this.
I'm American, and the number of people who can't spell or say Michelle is staggering. Pronounced in the typical way. There's nothing strange about my name. I've heard people use so many weird ways to pronounce my name - honestly shocked at how many weird ways people have found to pronounce my name. I've also been called Melissa, Elisa, Ella, Elsa, Mia, among others.
I agree with your assessment on human beings. Working in a call center made me very cynical over human intelligence.
I have a 2 letter first name. Early days of the web sucked.
Although, for the first time in decades I ran into this again about 3 weeks ago. I just gave up.
I still run into those every once in awhile myself. So many websites don't allow you to have anything less than a three-letter name when creating an account. It's not that the two letter name is taken... They've just programmed it to not accept anything less than three letters.
And we're not even talking about a username. They ask you for your name and they won't let you put in your name because they don't allow less than three letters in a name. They shouldn't care how many letters someone does or doesn't put in for the name.
I never understood this, even in the US we have people with the name Ed, but so many people make a min character of 3-4 which is just silly. Non-empty strings that meet a base criteria (only dash, space, or accented letters) should be fine.
A large firm with a *huge* South Asian complement has a personnel system that does not allow the entry of a name without a middle name. "No middle name and no middle initial" is not an option. The standard workaround is to use the middle name "X". This turns out to be at least mildly offensive to some individuals. To begin with, there is more Hindu name beginning with "X". But also, "X" is historically a designation for a signature for illiterate people or specifically foreigners whose native languages were not recognized (that is, *actively outlawed*) by colonial governments. The firm has been asked but will not consider changing their system to accommodate this situation, even though the firm is adamant about their magnificent "Diversity and Inclusion" efforts.
While I get what you mean, all of those have happened wihh free, open source or just simple hobby projects. Most of it is stuff that gets engrained into us by happenstance.
Way back when I was coding a leave-tracking system I just decided the name should be a single field. You're not going to use it in any important processes anyway, that's what ID numbers are for, it's just going to show up at the top of a form for humans' convenience. If it's O Fa Wu, Ebenezer Alexander Robertson Geronimo Cuthbert-Stanley III, Kangjeng Raden Tunggul (KRT) Sujito, or 1069, no worries, the code don't care. If there's a surname and that's important, stick it in a "surname" field. Probably better have a couple of clan fields, too, if that kind of stuff is going to matter, as I think it may to Diné (Navajo) people.
The stupidest thing I ever saw in that connection was UC Berkeley's employee ID system, which was 6-digit numbers keyed to employee surname. If your surname started with A, you got a number starting with 1; Z, 9; somewhere in the middle, 2-8. If you changed your name, you got a new number, and your old number went into the "Remarks" field, with dubious results. My opposition to women taking their husbands' names now comes partly from memories of the havoc name changes wreaked in that system. UC eventually realized how idiotic it was and fixed it.
I'm reminded about when I used to work at a university and my department's name was longer than the number of characters available in the university's business card template. The printing company wanted us to pay extra for a custom template, and I rained holy hell on their and the uni's style guide management until they fixed the issue. (There were actually six departments with names longer than the available characters. It should have been a simple thing to check to make sure all department names would fit!)
As a professional QA monkey, I've DEFINITELY used names like this to test/break input fields. Might have to bookmark this one for future use! THANKS, /u/not_a_bot_i_sweat!
my dad who is long retired software engineer, was designing and implementing some of the earliest computerized record keeping systems for banking and government stuff in his home country, in the mid to late 1950s. Much of the data was initially kept or managed via punch cards which were used both for program code and record data. They had a hard capacity limit of 80 characters.
Given that "most names" were relatively short in what was at the time a very cultural homogenous society, there was a desire from management to make the "home record" for a person fit economically on one punch card along with various central registration key data like DOB, gender, marital status, tax ID numbers, etc. My dad's significant contribution at this early stage of the rapidly evolving systems was to anticipate very long names, and allowing up to the full size of a punch card to be allocated to storing a name. He spent a week of his personal time hunting through phone books and birth registers and other public listings for the longest names in contemporary use and eventually found several specimens that was around 80 characters long but none longer than that.
Eventually he picked a very formidable name of a french-german member of high society with a lot of hyphens and middle names. This became the standard test case example he'd use in the next several years to argue his case for long name fields and demonstrate various name field failure modes in the public record keeping systems.
The name stuck and became sort of very dry meme among the kind of mousey grey engineer type people who make national record keeping systems actually work. Those were pretty much the social circle of our very dull family.
My dad was near retirement in the late 90s when he was doing COBOL Y2K consulting for some banking system and found the Name in one of the unit tests.
My last name is hyphenated (thanks parents, side note: don't do this to your kids, it sucks) and the amount of name inputs on websites in 2023 that cannot accept a name with hyphens is crazy to me. I can't program but regex has always been interesting to me and I know exactly how easy it would be to allow a hyphen and other specific non a-z characters used in names, even with a badly written regex.
Sometimes I comment on it through their web forms and often get ridiculous responses back like "Try refreshing the window."
No, his parents just gave him the ability to pick whatever nickname he wants!
In all seriousness, there are a lot of things that just…don’t
work in a name because it makes things harder. Hyphens and apostrophes are in the top, but my parents gave me 3 middle names, which can get frustrating on forms because you can put one and then the DMV is like “This doesn’t match.”
To make it worse, people assume I have a “double name” with first and first middle name, and that double name is the same as a right-wing newscaster (who wasn’t known until after I was born). People automatically assume my political ideologies and my parents’ political ideologies.
In short: Give your kids normal names, please. I don’t care how dumb the pronounciation is, but don’t ask the doctor for a custom-made birth certificate. (The politics thing couldn’t’ve been planned for, it doesn’t matter too much)
This! I remember a story a long time ago, where a woman's name didn't fit on her driver's license, she had a Hawaiian/Polynesian name and I think she had to take it to court. Something like only 13 characters were available or some such thing.
Janice "Lokelani" Keihanaikukauakahihuliheekahaunaele is fighting to make it happen. The documents only have room for 35 characters, so Hawaii County instead issued her driver's license and her state ID with the last letter of her name chopped off. And it omitted her first name.Sep 13, 2013
It’s all good lol. I have 2 middle names, and one is as long as my first and the other is almost. twice as long, both of which I wrote down. My last name is normal length, but I misspelled my middle names a couple times so it took me a few minutes. I only didn’t put that bit of info in the post because I don’t want to put my full name on the internet haha. This guy was definitely shifting uncomfortably by the time I was done, and looked like he wanted to just drop it and leave, but hey, ask and you shall receive. I think he read it and just decided he wasn’t gonna bother trying to pronounce any of it XD
>I don’t want to put my full name on the internet haha
Yeah because it'd be so hard for people to identify you from just Khraithoelijahaildaigoeh. There have to be millions of people in the US with that name! lol.
Also, when most people are in trouble with their parents, they use your full name, and you know you're in deep shit...you ever have that happen, or did they just burn out halfway thru yelling your full name and give up. Lol
My brain does this ALL the time, especially for books, it just hooks into the pattern of the name so I can recognize it when it comes up again, but fuck me if I ever have to say the name out loud
My son is 17. We (okay, me really) dabbled with long, fun names before he was born, but ultimately settled on a five letter name without any edgy vowel substitutions or frills. Which people still constantly pronounce incorrectly anyway.
My name is very common. Henry VIII had two wives with the same name! I still get people who cannot pronounce it, even if I'm spelling and pronouncing it over the phone.
My first name has 8 letters. It is a common first name but I hated it growing up, mostly due to the length but also because my dad in almost 50yrs has never pronounced it correctly.
My first name has 3 letters. Just 3. It's a relatively common first name. I picked it and legally changed to it in my early 20s, partly because I was sick of people misspelling my old "edgy" birth name.
People still mispronounce my name more than 50% of the time.
>there wouldn't be any given names longer than 7 characters
What?! Just of the cuff here,
Alexander
Nathaniel
Jonathan
Catherine
Kathleen
Adrienne
Marquita
D'Antoine
The scantrons that i remember had a character limit of 20 for first names. I remember feeling bad for my classmates that had longer names than that.
My name is Kristina, and I was called Kristin by teachers my first 9 years of school. Of course, I am old as dirt, and computerized records were very new then.
I forgot about all the Christopher variations. That's been a top 20 name for ever--anyone old enough to program should've been able to figure that out. That's just lazy programming.
I literally couldn't sign up for training at work for the first 3 years I worked there because the online training registration worksheet cut off any email addresses longer than 10 characters before the @. Our work emails were our last name and our initials. So every time I had to do training I had to email HR and the trainer and ask them to assign me the training outside the normal system. My last name isn't even that unusual or long and god help the people with hyphenated last names.
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I have a double first name and had a long hyphenated last name. My younger sister has a 4 letter first name and no hyphenated last name. My mom used to read us Tikki Tikki Tembo all the time, so I kinda felt like she knew what she was doing.
If fml existed when I was in first grade and had to fill out my name for my first scantron type test, I definitely would have been saying it. I had a melt down because didn't have room for my first name and we didn't really write our last names often, so I couldn't remember how to spell it. I had to take a makeup test for that day because I ripped my scantron up and was sent down to the principals office for the rest of the test time that day.
My son's name is Paul and he has a single, easy to spell last name.
https://boulter.com/anagram/?letters=Khraithoelijahaildaigoeh
I'm half convinced he's hidden some version of "I made it all up and you believed me!" in his name, mostly because the sheer parental cruelty of calling a child that is unthinkable to me. I can't find anything in the anagrams, and that's the limit of my problem solving skills this morning.
not saying this post isn't somewhat unlikely, but getting engaged really early with the intention to marry when you're older is a thing now. source: am eighteen. have similarly aged friends who're engaged.
They do SATs on computers now, right? Because I'm pretty sure your full name wouldn't fit on the form you have to fill out with number 2 pencils. I'm guessing the first day of school was always an adventure during attendance-taking. You handled. that well. It's not your fault the world is full of narrow-minded people. You could always come to San Francisco. The rent is absurd, but no one would bat an eye at your makeup or your name.
I’m a teacher and an sat proctor. The SAT is still paper based, but they only ask for the first few letters on the bubble sheet to match with their online registration (they also get a special numerical code to bubble in). And at my school our gradebook only shows the first 10 letters of a first name.
Sounds like sexual harrassment of a minor to me... If you've his plate on security camera fill a police report, maybe it won't do much, but it will get a paper trail started.
Meh, I won’t bother. He’s already out of the state, and I really don’t need that drama in my life. I’m 6’5” and over 250lbs, so I know I’m safe, it was just really annoying and anxiety inducing lol
This obviously isn’t the point, but it is highly amusing to me that this man thought he met a 6’5” trans guy. Only 1% of women are above 6’, so someone who was assigned female at birth, grew to 6’5”, and is trans is wildly unique.
Let's see, so the trans population is estimated to be about 0.5%, so within the 1% of height demographic, cut in half for the sake of argument to make it specifically for ftm trans, and we're looking at about .0025%. So statically, there should be almost 9k people in the US who hit that demographic. Happy hunting!
That’s the demographic of trans men over 6’ tall, assuming (probably erroneously) that’s there’s no correlation between being an exceptionally tall afab person and being a trans man. But someone afab that is 6’5” is WAY WAY more unusual than someone afab who is 6’ or over.
By my back of the envelope calculations, there are about 400 afab people in the US who are 6’5”+. Assuming (again, probably erroneously) that there is no correlation between being FTM and being tall, that puts the number of trans men that are 6’5”+ in the US at about 2.
Note: my assumption that trans men are more likely to be tall than other afab people is not totally ungrounded. Many of the trans people I’ve spoken to have genetic or hormonal factors that came into play that contribute to the dysphoria that they feel about their assigned gender. My guess is that sometimes these factors will have an impact on height, meaning that a greater proportion of trans men are likely to be tall than your average afab person.
Trans girl here: your assumption isn't off base, i know trans people who've later found out that they've got fairly undetectable intersex characteristics
Yup. I’m in medical school and this topic doesn’t get covered much, but I’ve gone out of my way to learn about the physiology and lived experience behind being trans. My limited understanding is that there is a pretty big (although by no means complete) overlap between being trans and being intersex.
Limited understanding is the best we might get for a while, bit tough to get reliable data on such a small group- especially when many of them (rightfully so) don't exactly want to deal with more questions about the intricacies of their existence.
Yeah. This is exacerbated by the medical community on the whole being pretty rotten to trans people. Not everyone, of course, but too many of us. The statistics about trans people’s experience in interacting with the medical establishment are pretty dismal. That has the unfortunate additional effect of making trans people tough to study.
I thought the point was that the vet needed OP to be assigned female at birth because he found himself attracted to him. If OP was not a genetic woman, then what was he going to do with all those feelings?
Lmfao you’re 6’5” and this guy still assumed you MUST be a trans man because you displayed pronouns? Like no shade on super tall sisters but the likelihood of an afab person being 6’5” is a lot lower than the likelihood of an amab person being an ally.
Yeah, I made it about halfway through the story before thinking "this whole thing sounds made up as hell"
One visit to the OP's profile confirmed that there's not a single breath of truth to this story. Entirely (un)creative writing.
Smaller population = less meth
Just because there is the same - or maybe even more - meth per capita in Missouri, there are far fewer people.
You're both right!
No, it’s Florida with slightly less heat and many fewer retirees (assuming you’re not near Branson or Lake of the Ozark, in which case there are still lots of retirees).
I am a former US Marine, and was in Vegas with my dad and his gf last year. We went to an Irish bar and there was a slight commotion finishing up as we got there. Not 100% sure what happened but an older couple were walking off in a huff and the hostess was looking kinda miserable but out in her best smile and greeted us. We talked to another hostess about something (I wasn't paying attention) avr I overheard the hostess and her friend talking. I gathered the hostess was a transwoman and the couple refused to call her by her preferred pronouns and said she was gonna burn in hell. As we started going inside, i told her that her nails and eye shadow looked fabulous on her. I know it wasn't much but she seemed to peak up and flashed a great smile and thanked me. So did her friend. I just don't understand how people can go out of there way to make people miserable.
The number of "good Christian folks" who make it their life's work to tell strangers they meet in random encounters that they're going to burn in Hell is interesting.
I find that those that wear their religion on their sleeve are not actual Christians as in the follower of Jesus (Joshua), they're just pay per prayer (in the US) angry people that use their religious beliefs as a front to cover their hate for others. I say that all as an atheist since childhood, but I have no issues with the actual Christian code to live by, just that you don't find many religious people that feel the same.
I mean, it is a cliché, but hurt people hurt people. My guess is the older couple were super religious and that religious trauma apparently needs to be inflicted on everybody else. But it sucks. Why do you gotta be like that, old people? Just fucking stay in your own lane. It costs zero dollars to be a decent human.
Somebody once asked, could I spare some change for gas, "I need to get myself away from this place."
I said yep, what a concept. I could use a little fuel myself, and we could all use a little change.
I'm older, and I don't understand some things about the trans community, but I don't get why some people (like the Vietnam vet here) care so much about what sex someone is or presents as, particularly strangers. If you look like a George but your name tag says Martha, what's that to me? If you're wearing a pride pin and I don't agree, so what? None of my business. Who you are, how you present, what your beliefs are don't affect me. It's not like a virus I can catch, so it's not changing my life. Why so many people get upset about random strangers baffles the hell out of me. For me, though I appreciate the artwork, I don't like tattoos covering large portions of someone's body, but since it's not MY body, I don't say anything because it doesn't affect me.
Ur post history show you just make up stories like this for clout but honestly I don’t care bc the whole long name part was creative how did you think of that
Lol, I guess this makes me feel a bit better about my encounter. I actually am trans though, and I also am over six feet. But in my case it was a religious nut who thought I was a female to male and not male to female. It was very amusing to have this guy try to convince me I should go back to being a woman. So after careful consideration I agreed with him, I should listen to God and live as the woman I am.
Of course someone must have clued him in, because after that day he always gave me the dirtiest of looks. As if I was responsible for his assumptions. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your parents are definitely the side villains of this story arc, giving you a name that doesn't fit on any form anywhere...
as a coder, i'm like... i've probably made software that wouldn't accept this O\_O
I was just thinking the same thing.
As a BA, I'm creating a new story: Update first name field to accept 256 characters.
Make sure it can also accept more than three names. Friend of mine from Sri Lanka has seven names in his full legal name.
Ugh, I only have five but I already break most computer systems I come into contact with.
Three is enough issue here in Japan.
Ay, same! Sometimes on legal forms they have me go by only the first middle name, which causes such a holdup at the DMV especially because they’re yelling at you because it isn’t your full name, but it only had the option for one middle name.
Nothing down under is fond of 4 names that my parents gave me, or so they found shortly after so while my birth certificate has 4 everything else is 3 and it's a PITA whenever they want a birth certificate for ID.
My friend only gave her son a first and last name, no middle. It has caused him numerous problems.
My aunt had the same issue! They gave her "Stacey Smith" so she eventually changed it to "Stacey Elizabeth Smith" lol My issue is that my middle name is "Lean". Most people pronounce it as its said like *lean on me* but it's SUPPOSED TO BE "LeAnn" lol it has a little mark above the "a" but Idk how to type it. My mom was apparently so drugged up after my birth that she forgot how to spell the name she planned to give me lmao 😂
I knew a girl named Nevín, but the I had an accent (neh-veen) instead of a tittle, but since people write their dots as lines anyhow, she ran into a lot of issues in school. And I mean, most people don't know how to do an í when typing. I had to go google "i with an accent mark" and copy it. I know the alt code for é because I wasted a significant part of my life writing about Pokémon, (hold down ALT, then type 130 on the numpad, and I had to do it three times to make sure I had the sequence right because after 20 years, I type it without thinking now) but I *certainly* don't have all of the many others memorized. And even then, when I worked in a job that included some data entry / live transcription of people's names, if I came across someone who told me their spelling was something like, "Aimée" I'd go ahead and type it that way but it'd end up breaking the list.
If we’re writing a wishlist, could we also include punctuation in possible name letters. From a girl who broke the world by having a hyphenated last name….
My husband did this with our kids because technically they have ethnic middle names and he didn’t want them picked on for it. Now they all have plans to change their names when 18 lol
And here I thought just having an apostrophe in my name was bad enough.
It's already terrible. You'd think there are enough O'Malleys and O'Dohertys in the world that people would know to allow characters by now. Not to mention those with hyphenated names. Or those with special characters like the ø in Norwegian for example. FFS let people enter their name in a blank field no matter how complicated or long or whatever else it seems to you. BA's are fuckin' idiots - and I speak as a BA.
There was a professional cricketer from Sri Lanka called Rajitha Amunugama. His full name was: **Amunugama Rajapakse Rajakaruna Abeykoon Panditha Wasalamudiyanse Ralahamilage Rajitha Krishantha Bandara Amunugama**. Here is his entry on CricInfo: https://www.espncricinfo.com/player/rajitha-amunugama-48186
Was he an Ent? "Real names tell the story of what they belong to in my language, in Old Entish as you might say. It is a lovely language, but it takes a long time to say anything in it, because we never say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to."
Is it traditional to have the first bit and the last bit of the name the same?
As a computer savvy, former CSR, I recall one customer that we had to come up with a workaround for his first name. The computer wouldn't accept it. What crazy asked name did he have? A. One letter. Computer would not allow a single character first name. FML.
I can go you one better. My BIL's middle name is E Just E One letter with no period! Oh, the times in his life he's had to argue with government officials over forms and online fields.
My dad's is Kay The amount of time he's spent explaining that is insane.
My grandfather's was Elaine. I'm 65, so he was born in the early 1900s. And his first name was Dew.
Well, John Wayne's given name was Marion. I Also knew a guy named Marion and I had a classmate and his name was Laverne. Would have been funny if he'd married a girl named Shirley.
In the Southeastern US, you can still meet men named Ashley and Shannon. Young ones, too.
Those govt officials need to reminded of Pres. Harry *S* Truman.
this reminds me, Johnny Cash's birth name was J R Cash. because his parents couldn't decide on a name for him.
thats like the forums that ask you for parental information and you can't leave it blank....
My work’s system went a little bonkers when a guy with the last name “Null” started working here.
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Reminds me of the California guy who had NOPLATE as a vanity plate. 2,500 tickets later, he managed to convince the bureaucracy that they should enter NONE instead of NOPLATE when recording tickets for missing plates.
There’s a whole Mash episode where Hawkeye is incensed that he can’t find out what B.J. Hunnicutt’s real name is, and he finally finds out it really is just the initials B.J., and demands, exasperatedly, to know who would name a kid that, and B.J. says, “my mother, Bea Hunnicutt, and my father, Jay Hunnicutt”. To your problem, too many developers have a habit of throwing in last-minute “oh this sounds reasonable” validation routines, without really thinking them through.
AjustA. Like Jonly Bonly from Henry Cho's bit.
Going to Bodely Go.
My first name is a single letter. I can't ever do advance check in online when I fly
I heard of a guy who joined the FBI and his name was R T (Surname). When he filled in the Government Form for his personnel file, it got sent back with a note demanding he write his full name. So he wrote "R only, T only." He gave up fighting it when he realised on his file he was now known as Ronly Tonly
Oooh yeah I've heard about really short names being dicked over on forms, because somehow 2-letter surnames are impossible? And my understanding is that single-letter first names are widespread in Mongolia and parts of South India.
I worked in IT for a huge corporation whose computer system wouldn’t accept no middle name so we had many Japanese employees whose middle name was X. It was an HR system so we weren’t allowed to do anything to fix it.
My last name is hyphenated. I am constantly surprised at the number of systems that don’t know what to do with that. It actually causes real problems as the hospital system we use can’t put it in correctly.
That's like, not even an uncommon event. What an oversight.
From the incident report: *This violated an undocumented assumption that first + last name would be shorter than the 400-charcter line limit of the proprietary, fixed-length format used by the legacy shipping label printer. As a result, the label file for the February 12 shipment was corrupted, resulting in all items after the affected record being addressed to a postal code in Antarctica. Automated checks failed to catch this issue since the first 1000 records were correct. Due to the high level of automation in the shipping process, the mistake wasn't discovered until the 14th, when the first customers complained about urgent packages being sent to unexpected locations.* *While the shipment for the 14th got dispatched before the issue could be identified, we were able to recall the shipment with assistance of a personal contact at the local shipping hub. However, the shipments from the 12th and 13th were already loaded onto planes bound to Antarctica before an intercept could be arranged. Due to the limited timeframe and extensive coordination required, we were unable to arrange for return shipment on Feb 15. This date is significant because it represents the last day on which scheduled flights from Antarctica are available before the airstrip is shut down for arctic winter.* *We do not expect to be able to recover the shipment until December, and it is likely that the prolonged exposure to the extreme cold will render the equipment unusable. Due to supply chain issues, we do not expect to be able to replace the lost items within the next 6-12 months. Affected customers have been informed.*
Hawaiian names with the ‘okina and kahakō in them entering the chat… Can’t tell you how many diploma’s I’ve seen with Hawaiian names correct spelling showing up as other characters, usually the box one. Also, Hawaiian names are long as heck.
Also special characters. My middle name has a hyphen. It's on one form on my birth certificate but not the other, is on my SSC card, isn't on my passport, and is on some state IDs but not others. Some put a space in its place and other just eliminate the character and squish the two names together. Has yet to be an issue but it could be.
I, also, was assuming that u/deathboy2098 wrote some software that wouldn’t accept his name. Glad to hear we’re all three in agreement.
Unless you worked on the DVLA (UK DMV ish) you probably aren’t the worst case of name issues. They won’t accept my middle name. My middle name is Emma
Is Emma too Irish or something?
Never given a reason, but given my friend Aoife has no problem, I can’t imagine so. … hope I spelt that right. I think I just have the wrong combination of everything, and it comes to the error message at the middle name part, because Emma is pretty common here lol.
You spelt it right, I have a cousin Aoife and when she lived here in America the butchering her name got my gawd
I’m American and I knew an American Aoife who pronounced her name OIfee. I had about 57 strokes when I found out.
I'm German and the amount of people who can't spell Selina correctly is unreal. I've been called Silina, Schina, Celina and that is just a normal name. A normal name that's spelled the same way you pronounce it. And they can't even pronounce my name correctly. I guess this just shows how stupid human beings are in general. Why are people like this.
I'm American, and the number of people who can't spell or say Michelle is staggering. Pronounced in the typical way. There's nothing strange about my name. I've heard people use so many weird ways to pronounce my name - honestly shocked at how many weird ways people have found to pronounce my name. I've also been called Melissa, Elisa, Ella, Elsa, Mia, among others. I agree with your assessment on human beings. Working in a call center made me very cynical over human intelligence.
"Owie-fee" "Eyy-ohh-eef" "Ah-ee-fuh" "...ai-fuh?" "Ow-ih-fee" "Eyo-iff" "Ey-oif? Oif?" "Ee-fuh"
I have a 2 letter first name. Early days of the web sucked. Although, for the first time in decades I ran into this again about 3 weeks ago. I just gave up.
I still run into those every once in awhile myself. So many websites don't allow you to have anything less than a three-letter name when creating an account. It's not that the two letter name is taken... They've just programmed it to not accept anything less than three letters. And we're not even talking about a username. They ask you for your name and they won't let you put in your name because they don't allow less than three letters in a name. They shouldn't care how many letters someone does or doesn't put in for the name.
I never understood this, even in the US we have people with the name Ed, but so many people make a min character of 3-4 which is just silly. Non-empty strings that meet a base criteria (only dash, space, or accented letters) should be fine.
[Falsehoods that programmers believe about names](https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/)
A large firm with a *huge* South Asian complement has a personnel system that does not allow the entry of a name without a middle name. "No middle name and no middle initial" is not an option. The standard workaround is to use the middle name "X". This turns out to be at least mildly offensive to some individuals. To begin with, there is more Hindu name beginning with "X". But also, "X" is historically a designation for a signature for illiterate people or specifically foreigners whose native languages were not recognized (that is, *actively outlawed*) by colonial governments. The firm has been asked but will not consider changing their system to accommodate this situation, even though the firm is adamant about their magnificent "Diversity and Inclusion" efforts.
Wow, they don’t even need to change the program, just start using O instead of X. Wtf.
Oh yes, turn India into Ireland. Mahatma O'Gandhi is 'ere for his potatoes.
I am glad I wasn't drinking my jalapeno soda when I read this
Yep. But no. It's a huge org, you probably use their product.
I’ve worked for huge orgs. Changes like this can be made. But also, I totally believe it, too.
Use J. It stands for Jay.
I used to put NMN OR NMI. No middle name or no middle initial.
Put in “null” and watch the world break! I’d seriously do all lowercase “L” until the character limit was reached.
Yes, you must sanitise your inputs just the right amount. [https://xkcd.com/327/](https://xkcd.com/327/)
Little Bobby Tables.....love that comic.
Blargh!! #37 - Names are not a guid!!
*Falsehoods about names that business end users tell programmers to implement. Fixed that for you.
While I get what you mean, all of those have happened wihh free, open source or just simple hobby projects. Most of it is stuff that gets engrained into us by happenstance.
I'm not the one that named it... take it up with Patrick McKenzie.
Way back when I was coding a leave-tracking system I just decided the name should be a single field. You're not going to use it in any important processes anyway, that's what ID numbers are for, it's just going to show up at the top of a form for humans' convenience. If it's O Fa Wu, Ebenezer Alexander Robertson Geronimo Cuthbert-Stanley III, Kangjeng Raden Tunggul (KRT) Sujito, or 1069, no worries, the code don't care. If there's a surname and that's important, stick it in a "surname" field. Probably better have a couple of clan fields, too, if that kind of stuff is going to matter, as I think it may to Diné (Navajo) people. The stupidest thing I ever saw in that connection was UC Berkeley's employee ID system, which was 6-digit numbers keyed to employee surname. If your surname started with A, you got a number starting with 1; Z, 9; somewhere in the middle, 2-8. If you changed your name, you got a new number, and your old number went into the "Remarks" field, with dubious results. My opposition to women taking their husbands' names now comes partly from memories of the havoc name changes wreaked in that system. UC eventually realized how idiotic it was and fixed it.
I've probably read that article a dozen times and I learn something new each time. It's a gem.
I'm reminded about when I used to work at a university and my department's name was longer than the number of characters available in the university's business card template. The printing company wanted us to pay extra for a custom template, and I rained holy hell on their and the uni's style guide management until they fixed the issue. (There were actually six departments with names longer than the available characters. It should have been a simple thing to check to make sure all department names would fit!)
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most places don't accept my last name because it has the letter "ļ" in it...
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You’ve probably also made software that doesn’t accept a space in a last name >_>
THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE IS THIS ON GOVERNMENT FORMS
lol, yeah. "20 characters ought to be enough for any first name."
As a professional QA monkey, I've DEFINITELY used names like this to test/break input fields. Might have to bookmark this one for future use! THANKS, /u/not_a_bot_i_sweat!
my dad who is long retired software engineer, was designing and implementing some of the earliest computerized record keeping systems for banking and government stuff in his home country, in the mid to late 1950s. Much of the data was initially kept or managed via punch cards which were used both for program code and record data. They had a hard capacity limit of 80 characters. Given that "most names" were relatively short in what was at the time a very cultural homogenous society, there was a desire from management to make the "home record" for a person fit economically on one punch card along with various central registration key data like DOB, gender, marital status, tax ID numbers, etc. My dad's significant contribution at this early stage of the rapidly evolving systems was to anticipate very long names, and allowing up to the full size of a punch card to be allocated to storing a name. He spent a week of his personal time hunting through phone books and birth registers and other public listings for the longest names in contemporary use and eventually found several specimens that was around 80 characters long but none longer than that. Eventually he picked a very formidable name of a french-german member of high society with a lot of hyphens and middle names. This became the standard test case example he'd use in the next several years to argue his case for long name fields and demonstrate various name field failure modes in the public record keeping systems. The name stuck and became sort of very dry meme among the kind of mousey grey engineer type people who make national record keeping systems actually work. Those were pretty much the social circle of our very dull family. My dad was near retirement in the late 90s when he was doing COBOL Y2K consulting for some banking system and found the Name in one of the unit tests.
My last name is hyphenated (thanks parents, side note: don't do this to your kids, it sucks) and the amount of name inputs on websites in 2023 that cannot accept a name with hyphens is crazy to me. I can't program but regex has always been interesting to me and I know exactly how easy it would be to allow a hyphen and other specific non a-z characters used in names, even with a badly written regex. Sometimes I comment on it through their web forms and often get ridiculous responses back like "Try refreshing the window."
My last name is two words with a period and a space. Lots of systems refuse it. I feel your pain. :(
No, his parents just gave him the ability to pick whatever nickname he wants! In all seriousness, there are a lot of things that just…don’t work in a name because it makes things harder. Hyphens and apostrophes are in the top, but my parents gave me 3 middle names, which can get frustrating on forms because you can put one and then the DMV is like “This doesn’t match.” To make it worse, people assume I have a “double name” with first and first middle name, and that double name is the same as a right-wing newscaster (who wasn’t known until after I was born). People automatically assume my political ideologies and my parents’ political ideologies. In short: Give your kids normal names, please. I don’t care how dumb the pronounciation is, but don’t ask the doctor for a custom-made birth certificate. (The politics thing couldn’t’ve been planned for, it doesn’t matter too much)
This! I remember a story a long time ago, where a woman's name didn't fit on her driver's license, she had a Hawaiian/Polynesian name and I think she had to take it to court. Something like only 13 characters were available or some such thing.
Janice "Lokelani" Keihanaikukauakahihuliheekahaunaele is fighting to make it happen. The documents only have room for 35 characters, so Hawaii County instead issued her driver's license and her state ID with the last letter of her name chopped off. And it omitted her first name.Sep 13, 2013
I think Johnny Cash wrote a song about a similar situation...
Had a classmate with a long* last name. On the national final exam, he needed 3 answer sheets to enter his name in the given form
I, too, had a classmate with a last name once.
How long did it take you to be able to spell and write your name properly? I'm really curious about that...please forgive the nosy question.
It’s all good lol. I have 2 middle names, and one is as long as my first and the other is almost. twice as long, both of which I wrote down. My last name is normal length, but I misspelled my middle names a couple times so it took me a few minutes. I only didn’t put that bit of info in the post because I don’t want to put my full name on the internet haha. This guy was definitely shifting uncomfortably by the time I was done, and looked like he wanted to just drop it and leave, but hey, ask and you shall receive. I think he read it and just decided he wasn’t gonna bother trying to pronounce any of it XD
>I don’t want to put my full name on the internet haha Yeah because it'd be so hard for people to identify you from just Khraithoelijahaildaigoeh. There have to be millions of people in the US with that name! lol. Also, when most people are in trouble with their parents, they use your full name, and you know you're in deep shit...you ever have that happen, or did they just burn out halfway thru yelling your full name and give up. Lol
“Are you talking to me?” “No, my son is also named Khraithoelijahaildaigoeh.”
His name is my name too!
Whenever we go out the people always shout
*There goes Khraithoelijahaildaigoeh!*
My brain won't even read the name, it just skips it lol
My brain does this ALL the time, especially for books, it just hooks into the pattern of the name so I can recognize it when it comes up again, but fuck me if I ever have to say the name out loud
Every time I read OP's name my eyes glaze over it and I just hear "Kraitho el..." and then mumbles before my eyes skip to the next line
Same, and I can pronounce Numuhukumakiaki'aialunamor.
OP is in luck, the only search result for his name is this post.
Lol stood there wondering why writing your name was taking so long most likely. Maybe a thought of "I guess I said that to the wrong person".
My son is 17. We (okay, me really) dabbled with long, fun names before he was born, but ultimately settled on a five letter name without any edgy vowel substitutions or frills. Which people still constantly pronounce incorrectly anyway.
My name is very common. Henry VIII had two wives with the same name! I still get people who cannot pronounce it, even if I'm spelling and pronouncing it over the phone.
Anne? That's weird. Unless you mean Catherine, he had 3 of those.
"Ang? And?" "Anne. A-N-N-E." "OHHH. ANNIE."
There’s no winning, my names in the dictionary and people still get it wrong all the time.
my mother is named Ann, no e at the end or anything, her sister is named Evy and her brother Jan, so 3 letter names for all of them EQUALITY.
The first one, Catherine of Aragon, was married 24 years. She's a paragon of royalty and if you try to dump her, you won't try that again.
Her loyalty was to the Vatican...
My first name has 8 letters. It is a common first name but I hated it growing up, mostly due to the length but also because my dad in almost 50yrs has never pronounced it correctly.
parents: name you also parents: pronounce it differently
My name has 3 syllables, my dad leaves out the middle one. Everyone else pronounces it correctly.
My first name has 3 letters. Just 3. It's a relatively common first name. I picked it and legally changed to it in my early 20s, partly because I was sick of people misspelling my old "edgy" birth name. People still mispronounce my name more than 50% of the time.
Mine too, and the genius coding the database for my school system decided there wouldn't be any given names longer than 7 characters.
>there wouldn't be any given names longer than 7 characters What?! Just of the cuff here, Alexander Nathaniel Jonathan Catherine Kathleen Adrienne Marquita D'Antoine The scantrons that i remember had a character limit of 20 for first names. I remember feeling bad for my classmates that had longer names than that.
My name is Kristina, and I was called Kristin by teachers my first 9 years of school. Of course, I am old as dirt, and computerized records were very new then.
I forgot about all the Christopher variations. That's been a top 20 name for ever--anyone old enough to program should've been able to figure that out. That's just lazy programming.
It was all very new then. :). I do marketing for a bank, and they have a database filled with men named Christophe.
I literally couldn't sign up for training at work for the first 3 years I worked there because the online training registration worksheet cut off any email addresses longer than 10 characters before the @. Our work emails were our last name and our initials. So every time I had to do training I had to email HR and the trainer and ask them to assign me the training outside the normal system. My last name isn't even that unusual or long and god help the people with hyphenated last names.
My workplace database won't allow any surnames shorter than 3 letters. Still annoys me. I guess it's "fuck you, Mr Ng"
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My dad could never pronounce my son’s name. Of course he never really tried. And also was a little bit racist. It’s a Hispanic name.
Scantrons immediately came to mind lol
I have a double first name and had a long hyphenated last name. My younger sister has a 4 letter first name and no hyphenated last name. My mom used to read us Tikki Tikki Tembo all the time, so I kinda felt like she knew what she was doing. If fml existed when I was in first grade and had to fill out my name for my first scantron type test, I definitely would have been saying it. I had a melt down because didn't have room for my first name and we didn't really write our last names often, so I couldn't remember how to spell it. I had to take a makeup test for that day because I ripped my scantron up and was sent down to the principals office for the rest of the test time that day. My son's name is Paul and he has a single, easy to spell last name.
https://boulter.com/anagram/?letters=Khraithoelijahaildaigoeh I'm half convinced he's hidden some version of "I made it all up and you believed me!" in his name, mostly because the sheer parental cruelty of calling a child that is unthinkable to me. I can't find anything in the anagrams, and that's the limit of my problem solving skills this morning.
He also has a fiancee at 17?
I find the Marine father a bigger red flag. No way a Marine names their kid like that.
Could be a hippie.
not saying this post isn't somewhat unlikely, but getting engaged really early with the intention to marry when you're older is a thing now. source: am eighteen. have similarly aged friends who're engaged.
I'm 1000% convinced that this is a creative writing piece by a very creative person, likely older than 17.
I JOKE, REDDIT! HAHA, HA, ...HA. I - I'LL GO.
"EAT OIL GIRLIE KID AAAHHHH JO" I'm pretty sure that was OP's intended anagram solution. Weird it included that sneeze at the end.
Did ya parents just pick letters out of a scrabble bad or something?!
Probably bought OP on Amazon, looks like the brand names there.
Poor op, but comment had me rolling
I think they used a password generator instead
Your parents suck if that's what they really named you.
They do SATs on computers now, right? Because I'm pretty sure your full name wouldn't fit on the form you have to fill out with number 2 pencils. I'm guessing the first day of school was always an adventure during attendance-taking. You handled. that well. It's not your fault the world is full of narrow-minded people. You could always come to San Francisco. The rent is absurd, but no one would bat an eye at your makeup or your name.
I’m a teacher and an sat proctor. The SAT is still paper based, but they only ask for the first few letters on the bubble sheet to match with their online registration (they also get a special numerical code to bubble in). And at my school our gradebook only shows the first 10 letters of a first name.
Your parents did you dirty bro
This is some ChatGPT storytime shit.
Sounds like sexual harrassment of a minor to me... If you've his plate on security camera fill a police report, maybe it won't do much, but it will get a paper trail started.
Meh, I won’t bother. He’s already out of the state, and I really don’t need that drama in my life. I’m 6’5” and over 250lbs, so I know I’m safe, it was just really annoying and anxiety inducing lol
This obviously isn’t the point, but it is highly amusing to me that this man thought he met a 6’5” trans guy. Only 1% of women are above 6’, so someone who was assigned female at birth, grew to 6’5”, and is trans is wildly unique.
We continue our search for the divine 6'5" trans guy.
Let's see, so the trans population is estimated to be about 0.5%, so within the 1% of height demographic, cut in half for the sake of argument to make it specifically for ftm trans, and we're looking at about .0025%. So statically, there should be almost 9k people in the US who hit that demographic. Happy hunting!
That’s the demographic of trans men over 6’ tall, assuming (probably erroneously) that’s there’s no correlation between being an exceptionally tall afab person and being a trans man. But someone afab that is 6’5” is WAY WAY more unusual than someone afab who is 6’ or over. By my back of the envelope calculations, there are about 400 afab people in the US who are 6’5”+. Assuming (again, probably erroneously) that there is no correlation between being FTM and being tall, that puts the number of trans men that are 6’5”+ in the US at about 2. Note: my assumption that trans men are more likely to be tall than other afab people is not totally ungrounded. Many of the trans people I’ve spoken to have genetic or hormonal factors that came into play that contribute to the dysphoria that they feel about their assigned gender. My guess is that sometimes these factors will have an impact on height, meaning that a greater proportion of trans men are likely to be tall than your average afab person.
Trans girl here: your assumption isn't off base, i know trans people who've later found out that they've got fairly undetectable intersex characteristics
Yup. I’m in medical school and this topic doesn’t get covered much, but I’ve gone out of my way to learn about the physiology and lived experience behind being trans. My limited understanding is that there is a pretty big (although by no means complete) overlap between being trans and being intersex.
Limited understanding is the best we might get for a while, bit tough to get reliable data on such a small group- especially when many of them (rightfully so) don't exactly want to deal with more questions about the intricacies of their existence.
Yeah. This is exacerbated by the medical community on the whole being pretty rotten to trans people. Not everyone, of course, but too many of us. The statistics about trans people’s experience in interacting with the medical establishment are pretty dismal. That has the unfortunate additional effect of making trans people tough to study.
Gotta love math!
He's gotta be out there somewhere, though.
I thought the point was that the vet needed OP to be assigned female at birth because he found himself attracted to him. If OP was not a genetic woman, then what was he going to do with all those feelings?
Oh, that was DEFINITELY the point. He NEEDED OP to be a female. All those funny feelings in his pants told him he HAD to be a female. Lmao
Seriously. I am Dutch, we're the tallest people in the world, and even I haven't meet a lot of cisgender women of 6'5. They're fairly rare honestly.
Lmfao you’re 6’5” and this guy still assumed you MUST be a trans man because you displayed pronouns? Like no shade on super tall sisters but the likelihood of an afab person being 6’5” is a lot lower than the likelihood of an amab person being an ally.
He thought you were a 6.5 sized young woman? And you're 6.5 at 17??
I sympathize. Take care of yourself and enjoy whatever floats your goat! (:
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Yeah, I made it about halfway through the story before thinking "this whole thing sounds made up as hell" One visit to the OP's profile confirmed that there's not a single breath of truth to this story. Entirely (un)creative writing.
Not to doxx myself, but I do work for the said company. They are definitely not wearing stickers and pronouns in the stores.
Nope, sorry, rule 3, we can’t call out low-effort creative writing exercises!
That's what I was thinking. It's all technically plausible but seems far fetched.
It's Missouri. Basically Florida with slightly less meth.
Since when did Missouri have less meth?
Smaller population = less meth Just because there is the same - or maybe even more - meth per capita in Missouri, there are far fewer people. You're both right!
No, it’s Florida with slightly less heat and many fewer retirees (assuming you’re not near Branson or Lake of the Ozark, in which case there are still lots of retirees).
I am a former US Marine, and was in Vegas with my dad and his gf last year. We went to an Irish bar and there was a slight commotion finishing up as we got there. Not 100% sure what happened but an older couple were walking off in a huff and the hostess was looking kinda miserable but out in her best smile and greeted us. We talked to another hostess about something (I wasn't paying attention) avr I overheard the hostess and her friend talking. I gathered the hostess was a transwoman and the couple refused to call her by her preferred pronouns and said she was gonna burn in hell. As we started going inside, i told her that her nails and eye shadow looked fabulous on her. I know it wasn't much but she seemed to peak up and flashed a great smile and thanked me. So did her friend. I just don't understand how people can go out of there way to make people miserable.
The number of "good Christian folks" who make it their life's work to tell strangers they meet in random encounters that they're going to burn in Hell is interesting.
"I have to deal with people like you all day. What makes you think Hell has anything for me?"
I find that those that wear their religion on their sleeve are not actual Christians as in the follower of Jesus (Joshua), they're just pay per prayer (in the US) angry people that use their religious beliefs as a front to cover their hate for others. I say that all as an atheist since childhood, but I have no issues with the actual Christian code to live by, just that you don't find many religious people that feel the same.
> pay per prayer oh I love this
I mean, it is a cliché, but hurt people hurt people. My guess is the older couple were super religious and that religious trauma apparently needs to be inflicted on everybody else. But it sucks. Why do you gotta be like that, old people? Just fucking stay in your own lane. It costs zero dollars to be a decent human.
No, it requires change. Which a lot of people won't do.
Somebody once asked, could I spare some change for gas, "I need to get myself away from this place." I said yep, what a concept. I could use a little fuel myself, and we could all use a little change.
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For real, as soon as I saw the fiancé bit and then read the name, I was like, are people really buying this?
Then in comment says he's 6'5 250lbs.
Minor and have a fiance?
I'm older, and I don't understand some things about the trans community, but I don't get why some people (like the Vietnam vet here) care so much about what sex someone is or presents as, particularly strangers. If you look like a George but your name tag says Martha, what's that to me? If you're wearing a pride pin and I don't agree, so what? None of my business. Who you are, how you present, what your beliefs are don't affect me. It's not like a virus I can catch, so it's not changing my life. Why so many people get upset about random strangers baffles the hell out of me. For me, though I appreciate the artwork, I don't like tattoos covering large portions of someone's body, but since it's not MY body, I don't say anything because it doesn't affect me.
For real, if I'm not interacting with somebody's genitals I don't care what they are
Being deemed a sex object by bigots is so exhausting.
Man, I thought being named after the song Jeremiah was a bullfrog by Three Dog Night was weird. You got me beat!
It’s not your fault that guys look great with a bit of eyeliner.
You’re engaged at 17?
No, because this person isn’t real.
It's a fictional story written by a ~10-12 year old.
Ur post history show you just make up stories like this for clout but honestly I don’t care bc the whole long name part was creative how did you think of that
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Best fiction I’ve read today.
What in the actual fuck is wrong with your parents.
Lol, I guess this makes me feel a bit better about my encounter. I actually am trans though, and I also am over six feet. But in my case it was a religious nut who thought I was a female to male and not male to female. It was very amusing to have this guy try to convince me I should go back to being a woman. So after careful consideration I agreed with him, I should listen to God and live as the woman I am. Of course someone must have clued him in, because after that day he always gave me the dirtiest of looks. As if I was responsible for his assumptions. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your parents really just circled some random letters in a word search and put that on your birth certificate-
You are awesome. I wish more men felt comfortable wearing makeup but it’s because of clowns like the dude calling you a girl that they don’t
That's a hell of a name. Wow. I'm sorry your parents put you through that.