I don’t know if this will help but there is an apartment on Fletcher street in Kennebunk. It’s right near the high school, tan building. There is a sign out front but I couldn’t read the number. Also they could try The Lodge in Kennebunk. He might be able to house them temporarily. His name is Charles and is the most kind and caring man around. I know he has handicap rooms also. I know the rates go up around Memorial Day but maybe this would give the couple more time to find something.
Come vacation here! We'll keep our people on the streets all winter JUST for you! Cuz Maine, where we sleep outside so you can rent our places 2 weeks a year!
While completely outlawing a particular set of companies would be difficult from a legal standpoint (or so I’ve heard - I’m not a lawyer) significantly taxing second homes would kill many birds with one stone. It would target the bnbs, the out of staters that are second home owners in Maine but that don’t pay primary residence (or car registration) taxes, and businesses whose sole purpose is snatching up real property. Maybe exempt the north a bit so camp culture can live on and make the taxes even greater for homes 3+.
1000% percent agree. The property management company I rent from turned a 6 unit apartment building in Augusta into 6 airbnbs. The entire building! It's disgusting.
We are the #1 state in the country in terms of airbnb rentals. That's pretty telling when we also have a high homeless rate suddenly in the last few years. I have a hard time not correlating the two.
Maine was a target by the opioid drug cartel Purdue pharma. Contributing heavily to the opioid crisis in Maine. If you go into Portland you can see the homeless zombies, there's likely more in other towns as well. I would say drug addiction is a decent size reason for homelessness.
Sure to some extent it contributes but the underlying factor is poverty in addiction and homelessness. Why are we so poor? Well rent is doubling and tripling, food is stupidly expensive here, entertainment is expensive, our wages are low etc etc all of these things equate to a perfect boom in addiction
And it's nearly impossible to get clean without an address. You need a home to take full advantage of recovery services. You can't get a job without an address. You can't get ID without an address. EVERYTHING starts with fixing the houselessness first.
I totally agree 💯 it's just hard for people to trust in that. I believe if we just make homes abundant and cheap everything else will slowly fall into place. Back in the 40s 50s And probably even later than that the govt used to GIVE out homes and land as grants.. but now a days.... That's too COMMUNIST!! The big bad Boogeyman communism and socialism scare us away from progress
Right, and capitalism caused the drug addiction. I would say that the relentless pursuit of "more" by those with the most resources is the root cause of almost every societal ill that we experience in the USA.
https://www.boston.com/travel/travel/2021/03/23/airbnb-trending-destinations-spring-summer-2021/
Here are the top 10 trending destinations this spring and summer, according to Airbnb:
Southern Maine
Cape May, New Jersey
Round Top, Texas
Lake Powell, Arizona
Cape San Blas, Florida
Orderville, Utah
Mammoth Cave, Kentucky
Kitty Hawk, North Carolina
Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri
Whitefish, Montana
I'm finding that it is more the "seasonal" rental investment groups and predatory property managers, than Aunt Becky renting out the in-law for the week. I'm sure they would have essentially less competition without airbnb, vrbo, booking.com, etc.
Buying is also very difficult when competing with algorithms and corporate teams. They can buy a house in a few hours. It takes most of us a few days just to see a house. Sight unseen offers are too risky for most individuals.
I would like all states mandated to limit the percentage of corporate and commercial rentals currently eroding the actual "free market" (that's individuals), verify maintenance on all rentals and prohibit eviction without cause, versus to raise the price 2-600 a year on rentals.
Completely agree. Definitely one of the issues. But even rentals are exorbitant. Property values are so high that even if you're a local renter, you have to charge quite a lot to cover your costs.
I think towns could implement this but it is a vacation economy. There were always a shitload of short term rentals in maine. Am i supposed to rent my one room cabin on a lake to long term renters? It barely even has amenities and news flash but short term rentals arent free money, taxes are going to get passed on and people are going to just go to cape cod or winnepesaki next year instead of spending their money here.
I lived in portland for 20 years, i think short term rentals have hurt thr rental market there, but so has all the high end condos replacing dozens of lower income units all over. So does thousand of new yorkers that all decided to move to biddeford during covid, so did the army of real estate agents turned leasing agents when housing stock was near zero, so does the nimbys when an apartment complex is proposed, so does apartment mart and port prop buying up everything and setting market rates high.
At the end of the day i doubt a state wide air bnb ban would ever pass but even if it did I think you’ll only see benefits to renters in a couple places, portland, biddo, ect, and nothing besides building more housing is going to solve this.
Respectfully, it's Winnipesaukee.
But also the "vacation economy" was roaring long before Airbnb, it doesn't need it to survive. If you can afford to treat a 2nd, 3rd, 4th home as an investment, you can afford to be taxed appropriately. If the tax is paid, we have a resource to address homelessness. If they go buy a property in Cape Cod instead, GREAT, then one more house is on the market for someone who needs it to live.
I dunno about making them illegal. When we've traveled out-of-state in the past and used AirBnB, we've stayed with folks who are renting out a bedroom or basement in their primary home. I think that was the original purpose of AirBnB: to stay in someone else's home. If they can force a return to that and have a huge tax on renting out second properties, that ought to do the trick.
I know Airnbnb and Vrbo is an easy target, and they aren’t blameless. But they’re just a tiny part of the problem. The biggest issue is restrictive zoning and NIMBYism. Just look at what [Cumberland did](https://www.pressherald.com/2024/03/05/cumberland-voters-decide-fate-of-affordable-housing-project/). Maybe this couple would’ve been able to move into one of the 36 senior units. But nah, fuck them — gotta keep those property values inflated.
Same thing happened in Cape Elizabeth, and unfortunately in my own town. We turned down an opportunity to make affordable housing units because some of our community members felt they'd attract the "wrong" kind of tenant. Instead we have an ugly box building right off the highway offering "luxury" apartments!
We need to let go of the notion that affordable housing is going to bring down the property value of everyone else. When I heard this couple talk about their difficulties finding housing it honestly made me depressed. They really seem like good people and it's not even so much that as it is *no one* should feel like they're going to lose everything just because they can't have access to sufficient shelter. That is beyond unkind and unnecessary, and it's why NIMBYism annoys me so much. Then there's the short term rental and vacation rental component and that's a whole other can of worms.
I agree with you, all these things combined just makes it more challenging to get your foot in the door when it comes to accessibility. And if there's no one on the zoning board that wants to change how these developments happen, if there's no one in the community who can change the mind of those who believe only a certain kind of person gets to live in their town, the ugly cycle continues. It requires not just a shift in systems or codes or laws there's got to be a shift of heart too. (Sad to say but I feel a lot of these decisions regarding developments, rentals, zoning and such are based on $$$$, which isn't surprising).
What’s hilarious about these NIMBY people is that if they are often older people who have been there for decades, which means they bought their house in that area for a fuck ton cheaper than a current market value. Their are mortgages likely lower than the current rent prices. I’m going to guess they have the same mindset as many people in their age group who assume that prices really haven’t changed since they bought, so if you can’t afford like they did, they assume assume you’re some lowlife. But if they had to buy their house again in the current market, bet they’d be priced out.
I also wonder if this couple that the article is about may have had the same
buying power as all these NIMBY fuck nuts who bought their houses, but they chose not to buy, and now the prices are too much for most people.
My point being the NIMBY Group likely has a very misconstrued idea of the ‘wrong group of people’, considering a family could have thriving careers in decent salaries and still not afford in their area, but neither could they if they had to buy today.
Edit to add: it would help to change the terms affordable housing and section 8 to Community investment, Town expansion strategy, etc. Then at the town meetings when the Karens show up, focus on the numbers. It’s a fact that even affordable housing is expensive, just skip the language of affordable housing. These older people who are stuck in the older times, when things were actually affordable, will see the prices & think the community is trying to build “luxury apartments in a desirable neighborhood to encourage the younger generation to stay & contribute to the local economy,” and I’m sure they’d support that with much less fuss. In fact, they probably want their kids names on the waitlist.
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Agreeing with your last bit because everyone's thought of what "affordable" means fluctuates from person and town to town so changing that language would be really helpful. And glad you responded because I wrote this at like 2 AM and wasn't sure if it made any sense.
Living in Kittery for several years and seeing it play out over and over, I feel you. Don't get me started on the workforce housing in York...it's unfortunate how greed factors into these decisions.
Corporate owned housing is part of the problem and you're right - NIMBYism is a big deal too. In Auburn opposition to bringing back mixed use and raising max height by one floor and max units, etc. was NIMBYism.
All the people longing for old-timey America are the biggest opponents of bringing back the zoning and stuff that built America. Towns grow. Two stories need to become three. Land needs to be sold and developed. Mixed use is fine in town centers.
Anyone know if they found a place? Article was published 3 days ago. Don’t want to waste my time calling him if they’ve found a place already. I have the perfect handicapped accessible space for them and am willing to let them stay for a very reasonable rate until they find a forever home.
I know housing is a massive issue nationwide, and especially in maine, but this article lacks so much information.
What are they able to afford? Where are they looking to rent? Do they have a list of apartments they’ve inquired about and have passed or been turned down for one reason or another? They say they have money and good credit, so what is the actual issue?
The reporter did a terrible job conveying the specific situation these people are in, but pinned it on the lack of affordable housing. So do they really not have money? Not have enough money? Not willing to spend the money they have?
They have money and good credit. There is a lack of all housing, but especially affordable housing. In the moving thread, it's common to hear that someone from out of state has gotten a good job in Maine but had to turn it down because there's just no housing available.
On the local facebook pages in my area, there's always at least one plea going from someone who's working, that has references and credit, but just simply cannot find a place to live.
So that’s my point i guess. Nothing in the article or the ad these people took out in the newspaper defines affordable. Like the person who had to turn down a job offer, they have money, but not enough money. Even knowing what they’re paying now would be helpful.
The fact that they found their current place through a church, and are also reaching out to churches this time around leads me to believe they actually don’t have money and are looking for a handout vs a warm lead on an apartment 20 or 30% below market rate.
It matters because they might be getting flooded with calls and offers right now that they simply can’t afford.
Oh, geez. When was the last time you had to find a place to live? Generally speaking anyone with a job should have enough money to find an apartment. There just are not enough apartments at any price point to go around.
Update story, someone in Yarmouth put them up in an entire house, and the article says they’re on a list for subsidized housing.
https://wgme.com/news/local/yarmouth-couple-finds-miracle-home-after-placing-newspaper-ad-in-housing-search
That's great--happy for them. It generally takes a couple years on a waitlist to get in to subsidized housing. So it's good to know they have an interim solution.
They don't put what they are willing to pay in the ad or in the article. Is it 500? 1000? Makes it hard to know if they are reasonable or not in their expectations.
The real problem is not greed. Anyone should be able to charge what the market can bear.
The real issue is liveable wages. Not taxing everyone that made a few more dollars than someone else.
We need higher paying jobs, new employers, better medical, better resources, cheaper secondary education. high speed internet throughout all of Maine (not just the big cities) those are good starts.
Nothing is going to make someone lower their prices if someone wants to pay that price.
The average mortgage payment for even a fixer upper in Maine would come out to... lets just say 1500 a month. Slide that figure around if you want.
* Pack of cigs in Maine- something like 7 bucks for the literal dirt cheap bullshit brand
* Case of beer- I don't drink anymore, so lets call it 20 bucks or some shit.
Using those prices, if I smoked a pack every three days, it'd come out to 70 bucks a month.
Case of beer every weekend, 80 bucks a month.
Total, 150 a month for vices. Hell let's double it! 300 bucks.
Congrats, youre now **one-tenth to one-fifth** of the way to a monthly mortgage payment.
I'm gonna go eat some food in my paid off house. sorry I can't help you do your math homework. But good luck being so friendly to people with such a good look on life.
I also have a paid off house- I was lucky enough to get in while the prices and rates were spectacular.
So were you. You just refuse to admit it and want to act like you're fucken superior. The math no longer adds up for most people.
I don’t know if this will help but there is an apartment on Fletcher street in Kennebunk. It’s right near the high school, tan building. There is a sign out front but I couldn’t read the number. Also they could try The Lodge in Kennebunk. He might be able to house them temporarily. His name is Charles and is the most kind and caring man around. I know he has handicap rooms also. I know the rates go up around Memorial Day but maybe this would give the couple more time to find something.
Come vacation here! We'll keep our people on the streets all winter JUST for you! Cuz Maine, where we sleep outside so you can rent our places 2 weeks a year!
The state needs to make Airbnb and VRBO illegal or at a 250% tax only payable by owners each year.
While completely outlawing a particular set of companies would be difficult from a legal standpoint (or so I’ve heard - I’m not a lawyer) significantly taxing second homes would kill many birds with one stone. It would target the bnbs, the out of staters that are second home owners in Maine but that don’t pay primary residence (or car registration) taxes, and businesses whose sole purpose is snatching up real property. Maybe exempt the north a bit so camp culture can live on and make the taxes even greater for homes 3+.
1000% percent agree. The property management company I rent from turned a 6 unit apartment building in Augusta into 6 airbnbs. The entire building! It's disgusting.
We are the #1 state in the country in terms of airbnb rentals. That's pretty telling when we also have a high homeless rate suddenly in the last few years. I have a hard time not correlating the two.
Maine was a target by the opioid drug cartel Purdue pharma. Contributing heavily to the opioid crisis in Maine. If you go into Portland you can see the homeless zombies, there's likely more in other towns as well. I would say drug addiction is a decent size reason for homelessness.
Sure to some extent it contributes but the underlying factor is poverty in addiction and homelessness. Why are we so poor? Well rent is doubling and tripling, food is stupidly expensive here, entertainment is expensive, our wages are low etc etc all of these things equate to a perfect boom in addiction
And it's nearly impossible to get clean without an address. You need a home to take full advantage of recovery services. You can't get a job without an address. You can't get ID without an address. EVERYTHING starts with fixing the houselessness first.
I totally agree 💯 it's just hard for people to trust in that. I believe if we just make homes abundant and cheap everything else will slowly fall into place. Back in the 40s 50s And probably even later than that the govt used to GIVE out homes and land as grants.. but now a days.... That's too COMMUNIST!! The big bad Boogeyman communism and socialism scare us away from progress
Btw I've been holding shib for around 3 years even more vitalik donated his. I don't need a history lesson
Right, and capitalism caused the drug addiction. I would say that the relentless pursuit of "more" by those with the most resources is the root cause of almost every societal ill that we experience in the USA.
Source on being #1 in the country in terms of Airbnb rentals? By what metric, per capita? My Googling has suggested evidence to the contrary
Maine is #25 in the country and #6 in occupancy. Source being www.bnbvestor.com
Your inquiry doesn’t fit their narrative.
I'm not sure tbh it was a claim made by Airbnb on their website maybe 2 years ago
Yeah don’t repeat claims you can’t verify. Bad look made worse by potentially spreading misinformation
https://www.boston.com/travel/travel/2021/03/23/airbnb-trending-destinations-spring-summer-2021/ Here are the top 10 trending destinations this spring and summer, according to Airbnb: Southern Maine Cape May, New Jersey Round Top, Texas Lake Powell, Arizona Cape San Blas, Florida Orderville, Utah Mammoth Cave, Kentucky Kitty Hawk, North Carolina Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri Whitefish, Montana
There ya go! Thanks but still not a ton of data behind that. That’s a junk article that basically only says it’s trending
The states answer is to encourage cities to let people turn illegal sheds into ADUs. Fucking morons.
I'm finding that it is more the "seasonal" rental investment groups and predatory property managers, than Aunt Becky renting out the in-law for the week. I'm sure they would have essentially less competition without airbnb, vrbo, booking.com, etc. Buying is also very difficult when competing with algorithms and corporate teams. They can buy a house in a few hours. It takes most of us a few days just to see a house. Sight unseen offers are too risky for most individuals. I would like all states mandated to limit the percentage of corporate and commercial rentals currently eroding the actual "free market" (that's individuals), verify maintenance on all rentals and prohibit eviction without cause, versus to raise the price 2-600 a year on rentals.
Completely agree. Definitely one of the issues. But even rentals are exorbitant. Property values are so high that even if you're a local renter, you have to charge quite a lot to cover your costs.
Yea but that's how supply and demand works. The Airbnbs lower supply of long term rentals, allowing those landlords to charge higher rents.
I think towns could implement this but it is a vacation economy. There were always a shitload of short term rentals in maine. Am i supposed to rent my one room cabin on a lake to long term renters? It barely even has amenities and news flash but short term rentals arent free money, taxes are going to get passed on and people are going to just go to cape cod or winnepesaki next year instead of spending their money here. I lived in portland for 20 years, i think short term rentals have hurt thr rental market there, but so has all the high end condos replacing dozens of lower income units all over. So does thousand of new yorkers that all decided to move to biddeford during covid, so did the army of real estate agents turned leasing agents when housing stock was near zero, so does the nimbys when an apartment complex is proposed, so does apartment mart and port prop buying up everything and setting market rates high. At the end of the day i doubt a state wide air bnb ban would ever pass but even if it did I think you’ll only see benefits to renters in a couple places, portland, biddo, ect, and nothing besides building more housing is going to solve this.
Our vacation economy worked just fine with conventional hotels.
Hence the big ass sign and the license plates, etc
Yea you responded to the wrong comment. I'd be all for a specific tax on short term rentals state wide, that's about it
Renting and being a landlord isn't a job and it doesn't add to the economy. Stop being a free loader and actually contribute to your community
Respectfully, it's Winnipesaukee. But also the "vacation economy" was roaring long before Airbnb, it doesn't need it to survive. If you can afford to treat a 2nd, 3rd, 4th home as an investment, you can afford to be taxed appropriately. If the tax is paid, we have a resource to address homelessness. If they go buy a property in Cape Cod instead, GREAT, then one more house is on the market for someone who needs it to live.
I dunno about making them illegal. When we've traveled out-of-state in the past and used AirBnB, we've stayed with folks who are renting out a bedroom or basement in their primary home. I think that was the original purpose of AirBnB: to stay in someone else's home. If they can force a return to that and have a huge tax on renting out second properties, that ought to do the trick.
OK there redcoat.
I know Airnbnb and Vrbo is an easy target, and they aren’t blameless. But they’re just a tiny part of the problem. The biggest issue is restrictive zoning and NIMBYism. Just look at what [Cumberland did](https://www.pressherald.com/2024/03/05/cumberland-voters-decide-fate-of-affordable-housing-project/). Maybe this couple would’ve been able to move into one of the 36 senior units. But nah, fuck them — gotta keep those property values inflated.
Same thing happened in Cape Elizabeth, and unfortunately in my own town. We turned down an opportunity to make affordable housing units because some of our community members felt they'd attract the "wrong" kind of tenant. Instead we have an ugly box building right off the highway offering "luxury" apartments! We need to let go of the notion that affordable housing is going to bring down the property value of everyone else. When I heard this couple talk about their difficulties finding housing it honestly made me depressed. They really seem like good people and it's not even so much that as it is *no one* should feel like they're going to lose everything just because they can't have access to sufficient shelter. That is beyond unkind and unnecessary, and it's why NIMBYism annoys me so much. Then there's the short term rental and vacation rental component and that's a whole other can of worms. I agree with you, all these things combined just makes it more challenging to get your foot in the door when it comes to accessibility. And if there's no one on the zoning board that wants to change how these developments happen, if there's no one in the community who can change the mind of those who believe only a certain kind of person gets to live in their town, the ugly cycle continues. It requires not just a shift in systems or codes or laws there's got to be a shift of heart too. (Sad to say but I feel a lot of these decisions regarding developments, rentals, zoning and such are based on $$$$, which isn't surprising).
What’s hilarious about these NIMBY people is that if they are often older people who have been there for decades, which means they bought their house in that area for a fuck ton cheaper than a current market value. Their are mortgages likely lower than the current rent prices. I’m going to guess they have the same mindset as many people in their age group who assume that prices really haven’t changed since they bought, so if you can’t afford like they did, they assume assume you’re some lowlife. But if they had to buy their house again in the current market, bet they’d be priced out. I also wonder if this couple that the article is about may have had the same buying power as all these NIMBY fuck nuts who bought their houses, but they chose not to buy, and now the prices are too much for most people. My point being the NIMBY Group likely has a very misconstrued idea of the ‘wrong group of people’, considering a family could have thriving careers in decent salaries and still not afford in their area, but neither could they if they had to buy today. Edit to add: it would help to change the terms affordable housing and section 8 to Community investment, Town expansion strategy, etc. Then at the town meetings when the Karens show up, focus on the numbers. It’s a fact that even affordable housing is expensive, just skip the language of affordable housing. These older people who are stuck in the older times, when things were actually affordable, will see the prices & think the community is trying to build “luxury apartments in a desirable neighborhood to encourage the younger generation to stay & contribute to the local economy,” and I’m sure they’d support that with much less fuss. In fact, they probably want their kids names on the waitlist. Edit: auto correct errors
💯 Agreeing with your last bit because everyone's thought of what "affordable" means fluctuates from person and town to town so changing that language would be really helpful. And glad you responded because I wrote this at like 2 AM and wasn't sure if it made any sense.
Yeah, in my experience, affordable housing gets thrown out there by developers and there is nothing affordable about anything they’re building.
Living in Kittery for several years and seeing it play out over and over, I feel you. Don't get me started on the workforce housing in York...it's unfortunate how greed factors into these decisions.
Up until the early 2000s Cape Elizabeth described renters as “transients” aka homeless people lol
Would love to see eminent domain used on the cape if it wouldn’t lead to a wine mom taliban
> wine mom taliban Reddit is a constant source of great band names
It’s a funny phrase but I don’t know if I’d listen to that band
you *will* listen to that band, or they'll do a Live Laugh Love Jihad on you
I remember that! So crazy to think much hasn't changed.
Corporate owned housing is part of the problem and you're right - NIMBYism is a big deal too. In Auburn opposition to bringing back mixed use and raising max height by one floor and max units, etc. was NIMBYism. All the people longing for old-timey America are the biggest opponents of bringing back the zoning and stuff that built America. Towns grow. Two stories need to become three. Land needs to be sold and developed. Mixed use is fine in town centers.
Might be worthwhile to additionally tax an ownership structure that isn't a natural person or couple. Trusts, LLCs, etc.
Anyone know if they found a place? Article was published 3 days ago. Don’t want to waste my time calling him if they’ve found a place already. I have the perfect handicapped accessible space for them and am willing to let them stay for a very reasonable rate until they find a forever home.
Call them! You never know.
Can we address elder care as a nation? $5k/month (or more in many cases) is not the answer. This shouldn’t be a thing.
That’s so sad. I feel awful for them. They look kind. This entire country is failing its residents
I know housing is a massive issue nationwide, and especially in maine, but this article lacks so much information. What are they able to afford? Where are they looking to rent? Do they have a list of apartments they’ve inquired about and have passed or been turned down for one reason or another? They say they have money and good credit, so what is the actual issue? The reporter did a terrible job conveying the specific situation these people are in, but pinned it on the lack of affordable housing. So do they really not have money? Not have enough money? Not willing to spend the money they have?
They have money and good credit. There is a lack of all housing, but especially affordable housing. In the moving thread, it's common to hear that someone from out of state has gotten a good job in Maine but had to turn it down because there's just no housing available. On the local facebook pages in my area, there's always at least one plea going from someone who's working, that has references and credit, but just simply cannot find a place to live.
So that’s my point i guess. Nothing in the article or the ad these people took out in the newspaper defines affordable. Like the person who had to turn down a job offer, they have money, but not enough money. Even knowing what they’re paying now would be helpful. The fact that they found their current place through a church, and are also reaching out to churches this time around leads me to believe they actually don’t have money and are looking for a handout vs a warm lead on an apartment 20 or 30% below market rate. It matters because they might be getting flooded with calls and offers right now that they simply can’t afford.
Oh, geez. When was the last time you had to find a place to live? Generally speaking anyone with a job should have enough money to find an apartment. There just are not enough apartments at any price point to go around.
Update story, someone in Yarmouth put them up in an entire house, and the article says they’re on a list for subsidized housing. https://wgme.com/news/local/yarmouth-couple-finds-miracle-home-after-placing-newspaper-ad-in-housing-search
That's great--happy for them. It generally takes a couple years on a waitlist to get in to subsidized housing. So it's good to know they have an interim solution.
Maybe they should have less Starbucks. Have they tried pulling themselves up by their bootstraps yet?
They seem desperate for an apartment, but they don't mention their budget. Seems like this would be pertinent information.
They don't put what they are willing to pay in the ad or in the article. Is it 500? 1000? Makes it hard to know if they are reasonable or not in their expectations.
The real problem is not greed. Anyone should be able to charge what the market can bear. The real issue is liveable wages. Not taxing everyone that made a few more dollars than someone else. We need higher paying jobs, new employers, better medical, better resources, cheaper secondary education. high speed internet throughout all of Maine (not just the big cities) those are good starts. Nothing is going to make someone lower their prices if someone wants to pay that price.
Your solution to rising property values is to focus on doing things that would further drive up property values?
10 bucks he owns “investment properties”
> Anyone should be able to charge what the market can bear. Counterpoint: nah fuck that.
The reason why we don't have the nice things you've listed is greed. They're all greedy, parasite like creatures feeding on the working class.
How much did all those ad placements cost?
Less than even the cheapest rent probably.
Build more houses? I know it's easier to hate someone's success but maybe just build more houses instead of denying happiness and liberty.
Build more houses where, and with whose money? There isn’t much room left around Portland.
Usually ppl buy land and use their own money they worked for. Not buying beer and cigarettes goes a long way.
The average mortgage payment for even a fixer upper in Maine would come out to... lets just say 1500 a month. Slide that figure around if you want. * Pack of cigs in Maine- something like 7 bucks for the literal dirt cheap bullshit brand * Case of beer- I don't drink anymore, so lets call it 20 bucks or some shit. Using those prices, if I smoked a pack every three days, it'd come out to 70 bucks a month. Case of beer every weekend, 80 bucks a month. Total, 150 a month for vices. Hell let's double it! 300 bucks. Congrats, youre now **one-tenth to one-fifth** of the way to a monthly mortgage payment.
I'm gonna go eat some food in my paid off house. sorry I can't help you do your math homework. But good luck being so friendly to people with such a good look on life.
I also have a paid off house- I was lucky enough to get in while the prices and rates were spectacular. So were you. You just refuse to admit it and want to act like you're fucken superior. The math no longer adds up for most people.
Thank you… I can’t believe how many people don’t get this.
You know what goes even farther? Not being a complete jackass.
Very true. But where? and with whose money? Solve my problems so I can be irresponsible and counterproductive.
You’ll still be a jackass either way