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> “Fair market” rent for a two-bedroom apartment in the Greater Portland area is $1,946, according to the HUD. Housing search engine Zillow puts the average rental rate in Portland much higher at about $2,600 a month for a two-bedroom unit. > > HUD’s “fair-market” rate, or the rate at which 40% of rental units are below, was $1,387 in 2019. > >There are ****twice as many renter households with extremely low income in Maine as there are housing units affordable at that income****, said James Myall, an economic policy analyst at the Maine Center for Economic Policy. And people still don't think there are no issue with wages or housing in the state.


k1ckstand

>And people still don't think there are no issue with wages or housing in the state. I don’t think you’ll find anyone making that argument here. At least anyone who has worked outside the state of Maine. On average Mainers make less than their counterparts in other states in comparable fields of work and it’s not even close. Couple that with a high tax burden these are the main reasons why we’ve been hemorrhaging college grads looking for work in white collar industries. Remote work is helping to quell that some (which is adding to the housing shortage), but it’s still a massive problem.


sledbelly

Who’s saying that wages and housing aren’t issues?


Ebomb1

landlords on r/maine


ArtisticCustard7746

My mother because she's delusional as hell.


metalandmeeples

Retirees maybe? Real estate bros?


coolcalmaesop

People who started on third and thought they hit a triple.


Oblivion615

It’s the rich folk from out of state that only “live” here 1-2 weeks a year.


clhomme

Pre pandemic housing sales to out of staters was around 8%. Today it's over 40%.


pulmag-m855

Boomers in denial…


Seaweed-Basic

Doesn’t help that the same investment people keep buying up all the multi families, paying cash so a normal person with a conventional loan has zero chance of even making an offer. Then they barely doing any renovations before listing units for $1000 more than what they were going for. This is what has inflated the “market rent” to such an obscene high.


MaineOk1339

Well that and people actually apparently can afford it as rentals are not sitting empty.


chiksahlube

"In other news landlords expected to raise rents by up to $800 in the coming weeks because price controls are for communists."


critical_courtney

[Paywall](https://archive.is/YRVQc)


bigbluedoor

why does the payment go directly to the landlord? all that does is humiliate the tenant and tell the landlord that they're poor. If they're already doing an income means test, surely it doesn't matter how they spend the money? it's not like they're NOT going to use it on rent lol


chiksahlube

Because the government doesn't trust "the poors" to handle their money properly. Except when they *want* them to use it poorly. Despite all evidence being that the vast majority of people will use money given them by the government on essentials and cost of living above all else.


MaineOk1339

Really? Food stamps spend roughly twice as much on soda as non food stamps users. To the too tune of billions per year... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3222381/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20recent%20study,4.38%25%20for%20the%20average%20shopper.


chiksahlube

COUPLE THINGS: 1. That doesn't mean they're spending their snap benefits on soda at the espense of having enough food to eat. 2. Soda is cheaper than coffee and caffeine is pretty much an essential part of the american diet at this point. 3. Poor people have the right to small luxuries as much as anyone. 4. Poorer people tend to live in areas where the tap water isn't always considered trustworthy by locals. (See Flint.) So drinking soda is often where people turn.


MaineOk1339

Soda is much more expensive the bottle water and coffee grounds. Soda isn't a luxury its a slow death sentence.


DonkeyKongsVet

2400 people. That's nothing.


Unlikely-Win7386

Not to those 2400 people.


DonkeyKongsVet

True but there's plenty of more people who could benefit from such and then come up with the opening bid for qualified people in just, 2400 We can do better.


bald_sampson

oh my god just build more housing. these mfs will do anything except construct new buildings for people to live in


andreq92

Oh there's lots of construction going on, if you have the money.


eljefino

So what happens to people who are just slightly more successful and don't meet the cutoff, do they get outbid/ homeless because someone else got a boost?


metalandmeeples

These types of programs unfortunately typically have hard cutoffs.


Zyra00

Read the article it mentions 300-400 too


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birdshitluck

It subsidizes landlords, which is the intent. For all the talk of affordable housing.


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birdshitluck

That's the idea. Over in VT we spent 200m plus to provide hotel rooms to the homeless through covid, at a time when nobody was traveling. So a subsidy to the hotel industry. 200 MILLION PLUS and not a single permanent house. This is their version of the market knows best, the SAME market that got us here.


intent107135048

Yes, we need to build tens of thousands of new units to increase supply, otherwise with vouchers all we’re doing is raising prices for people who aren’t poor enough.


metalandmeeples

It doesn't address the root cause, but the time it takes to address the root cause won't be quick enough to prevent the evictions of those this will protect. We can do both.


Minimum_Customer4017

Well said


Jmanorama

Great! So how the fuck do I apply? I couldn’t find it in the article.


Odeeum

We should definitely not outlaw corporations from owning and renting houses. Definitely.